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Armenian Genocide denial

See Talk:Denial of the Armenian Genocide --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 11:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Please don't revert my well-sourced additions. If you think some sources are missing, please add them yourself. I've done my part by adding half a dozen; you can contribute too. --Adoniscik 15:51, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Stop joking. What you're doing is misinterpretation of MY own sources . Your deletion of 'guerilla' is a biased POV-pushing. Did you read any of them to make your "changes"?Gazifikator (talk) 16:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

gaz, i didn't delete it, i moved it. you have to read. --Adoniscik 16:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Im going to report you. what you're doing is permanent POV-pushing and deletion of sourced material. you add what you want to see. Gazifikator (talk) 16:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Please go ahead. I'm deleting sourced material? That's a good one. Perhaps you want to move the citations after the word "guerrilla"? If so, go ahead. All I am doing is making the sentence read more naturally. Your version was stilted. I don't doubt that he leads a guerrilla movement. --Adoniscik 16:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

your edits deffer from each other. you dont doubt it in the last one. i believe we need to have some principles Gazifikator (talk) 07:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

You made an edit to Denial of the Armenian Genocide at 14:34, 6 March 2009, with the comment "Genocide convention: it is a view by a Baroness. no statement or a research on history" I have reverted your edits to that section because Baroness Ramsey was the Spokesperson of Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs in the House of Lords and was speaking for the British Government. You can find out that this is still the British Governments position by reading this link dated 7 December 2007. --PBS (talk) 11:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Please discuss you reversals of my edits of the Denial of the Armenian Genocide and Recognition of the Armenian Genocide on the relevant talk pages. --PBS (talk) 07:37, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

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Please be aware of this report: Grandmaster 15:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Notification: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2

This is to notify you that, per Misplaced Pages:ARBAA2#Amended Remedies and Enforcement, editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process while editing content related to Armenia and Azerbaijan, may be given sanctions which may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; bans on any editing related to the topic or its closely related topics; restrictions on reverts or other specified behaviors; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project.  Sandstein  09:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your recent editing: . brandспойт 08:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Moses of Chorene

I've been monitoring the page through my live RC feed. I'll leave a note for all editors to stay away from major content changes and stick to consensus building. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 15:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the fast reply! Can I ask you also to check this editors activities, I just dont know if I can notice about his edits anywhere else? He is adding unjustified tags to Armenian Genocide-related articles and pushing denialist sources. Gazifikator (talk) 15:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

June 2009

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Julfa, Azerbaijan (city). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution.  Sandstein  20:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Please be advised that if I see you involved in an Azerbaijan-related edit war one more time, I will sanction you under Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2#Amended Remedies and Enforcement.  Sandstein  20:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm ... One of the "usual suspects" strikes again, with his usual trumped-up charges. Gazifikator - I suggest you appeal immediately against the editing restriction. Do it while the dung is still fresh and smelly. Meowy 19:08, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Meowy! I afraid that I just cant take this dirty game you mentioned seriously! Should I? Gazifikator (talk) 05:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Restriction

As per Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2#Amended Remedies and Enforcement, you are sanctioned as follows: For six months, you are restricted to one revert per page per seven day period on any article related to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran, and the ethnic and historical issues related to that area. Reverts of obvious vandalism are grounds for exemption. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 12:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

And, with no surprise, he is swiftly followed by yet another of the usual suspects. Meowy 19:10, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Please be aware of this report at WP:AE: . Thanks. Grandmaster 12:58, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

You have made two reverts (first (07:49, 29 July) second (08:43, 31 July 2009)) to Recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Please see WP:3RR specifically "A revert is any action, including administrative actions, that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part." (My emphasis). Assuming good faith, you may not have known that it applied to all editors' edits and not a edits of one editor, but now you do. --PBS (talk) 13:19, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Do not push irrelevant and POV info then. Gazifikator (talk) 04:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

July 2009

Bernard Lewis

The Lewis article may be a bit redundant (and is way too long as are most W articles for my taste), but I think you have erased a well written sentence and now the less well written stuff dominates the head of the article, so I have reverted your revert. Also, his work on the history of the Ottoman empire should be mentioned very early on.--Radh (talk) 08:54, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I really wanted to avoid any ideological clashes this time around and did not revert from my pov stance. And I really think the article could be half as long, as many more on W.. But at least his early work of the history of Turkey was well respected in academia. It is of course always good to find sources, but the Lewis book I have read on the history of the Ottoman empire was not ideological in any strong sense and he cannot have gotten his "infamous" reputation (he def has) with it. I know everything is ideological in the end etc, but I know the difference between a work of Holocaust denial and a strongly opinionated, but serious text. I will try to find a citation, but am to ignorant to really debate the things you are interested in. I just consider it rude to simply revert hotly debated things, so have tried to give a reason.--Radh (talk) 09:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for so detailed answer! In reality, I have not the good knowledge of his academic works on OE, I know about his late denialist works and related critics, so I'm trying to make the article more neutral. It is important to mention topics where he is obviously controversial, to not have him cited in genocide-related articles as a reliable scholar of OE. And yes, his late works are rather ideological, than academic, but many people don't see the difference. Gazifikator (talk) 04:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Perhaps you are right and Misplaced Pages should concentrate on the controversial stuff, the things people get upset about. But there are many people here who want this to be the new Britannica. I am all for a good fight, but it is also nice if articles are well written and also look good.

Just had a look at a discussion page of Denial of Armenian holocaust. What a mess! Good luck to you.--Radh (talk) 06:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks! File:Blush.png Sardur (talk) 14:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal: Recognition of the Armenian

See Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2009-06-30/Recognition of the Armenian Genocide. As I opened the case I think it only fair that you make the first statement. --PBS (talk) 19:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

WP:AE

Hi. Please be aware of this report at WP:AE: . Thanks. Grandmaster 05:13, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

September 2009

AA

Please be aware of Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Gazifikator. Thanks. Brand 19:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)