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Am I supposed to post my reply here or on my own Talk Page? Anyway, my reply is currently on my Talk Page. tcob44

the Eratos' > ?Apollonius / Callimachus ? succession_?Apollonius_/_Callimachus_?_succession-2009-08-07T05:46:00.000Z">

First, my disclaimer: while I'm an old sociocultural anthropologist, -call me Dybs-, and I can't read classic Greek ... I have adopted this fellow as a hobby, but have had to rely on secondary sources. (I'll submit my bibliography for a much appreciated, more learned critique, if there are any takers.)

My reading, from my compilation, amalgamalation of contradictory secondary sources, of the Eratosthanese succession is that as Erato' became increasingly enfeebled, while the Apollonius / Callimachus 'pair' seemed to have been developing as equal candidates, rising stars, for 'sucessor', and while Eratostho' held on, Callimachus assumed increasing 'organizational' responsibilities (e.g. the cataloging, the copying - the over-all organization, and general curation, of the growing body of knowledge), and eventually there was a professional (&/orlovers?) quarrel which Callimachus likely 'politically/ professionally', won. - Hence Apollonius went into a self-imposed(?) exile, but Callimachus, while serving as (we'd say) 'de facto' or 'ex officio' Librarian and High Priest of the Muses, was never (could never have been within then-cultural conventions) formally awarded the Title. ... hence, upon his death, Apollonius returned and accepted his bitter-sweet reward as the official 2nd Librarian.  ???

The things that Callimachus accomplished in that interim are my real, albeit speculative, interest.

Thanks for your tolerance and patience with this self-introduction ...

'Dybs' ( my complete ID/ref. on request) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.114.203.19 (talk) 05:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)_?Apollonius_/_Callimachus_?_succession"> _?Apollonius_/_Callimachus_?_succession">

I'm afraid I don't know much about the Hellenistic era, and can't answer your questions authoritatively. But as I remember our sources for Callimachus' life are fairly poor, and not a safe foundation for constructing a chronology of his work. If you have access to Alan Cameron's Callimachus and His Critics that might be a good source to turn to on the supposed rivalry with Apollonius. --Akhilleus (talk) 04:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Soukrot (talk · contribs)

perhaps you can warn-block this chap? just stale revert warring. I could file a checkuser, but that would probably be giving too much honour to a throw-away account. --dab (𒁳) 09:05, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Apologies

Sorry you've been dragged into the Persian Empire nonsense but it was kind of inevitable given one of the users involved. --Folantin (talk) 13:45, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Since I'm your meatpuppet this had to happen eventually! (Note to anyone else reading: the previous sentence was sarcasm. So don't think you've caught me red-handed or anything.) --Akhilleus (talk) 00:38, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I'm your meatpuppet too, and I didn't even edit the article. Something on Misplaced Pages is stinking, but I'm sorry I lack the power to fix it. Bullies and their IRC-buddy enablers seem to have the upper hand at the moment. Concisely put, I think we can say it is a loss of integrity. Cheers, but don't lose heart, there are some good people left. Antandrus (talk) 02:31, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Did you know that "The 'Persian Empire' refers to a series of dynasties between 600 AD until the Ottoman Conquest. No more, no less"? And that the Mughal Empire was one of the aforesaid dynasties of the Persian Empire? Thanks to the magic of Misplaced Pages you soon will. Fight the vandals and meat puppets who claim otherwise.--Folantin (talk) 07:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't think this guy should be making too many claims about meat puppetry. Look at WP:Wikicup Pool A. There are a few names there with little or no previous interest in Iranian history who suddenly appeared on Talk:Persian Empire. --Folantin (talk) 08:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
But of course that wouldn't be meatpuppetry--just people who have encountered each other elsewhere on Misplaced Pages finding a discussion they want to participate in through each other's talk pages, contrib histories, postings on noticeboards, etc. That's the way a collaborative project is supposed to work. --Akhilleus (talk) 13:03, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Ponte Vecchio

Please see Talk:Ponte_Vecchio#Undoing_the_compromise? ... it has been suggested that the article be returned to a more standard format, as it has been a year since the compromise. Your participation may be helpful. ++Lar: t/c 12:12, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Triple Goddess

Thanks for the 3RR reminder. Also thanks for keeping a sane head and occasionally explaining my points better than I would myself! Davémon (talk) 16:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Doubting Thomas Akhilleus

Official recognition that Ottava Rima's behavior has been problematic. Jehochman 13:10, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

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