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User:82.29.16.209 reported by User:MassassiUK (Result: Watching for more BLP violations)

Page: Stedman Pearson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: 82.29.16.209 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Comments:
Not a 3RR violation, but IP user has been edit-warring on this article for the past month, continuing to revert sourced material without reason because it is not flattering towards the subject. He has been warned three times now by another editor on his talk page, but has persisted with behaviour. Article page was even semi-protected for several days due to this, but once protection expired, the IP user continued. Request lengthy or even permanent blocking for the IP address in question. MassassiUK 23:27, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Just had a little look at this and the article does seem to have a poorly cited controversy, which this ip has been reverting, I would say the article needs a little look to ensure it is not a BLP issue, small artlicle with a big controversy section, I suggest if the ip is blocked ( he has been warned on his talkpage) that the block is small as a first block and that we should try to talk to the ip to see what the problem is. Off2riorob (talk) 01:19, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I just left the ip a welcome, he has been here a month and has only been warned and never welcomed.Off2riorob (talk) 01:27, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I looked at the article and removed the controversy section as a BLP protection, it is controversial and weakly cited, I was almost immediately reverted, the article is in need of an admin having a look. Off2riorob (talk) 03:47, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Your edits were reverted because you are a known troublemaker who has already been blocked for disruption more than half a dozen times this year and you removed adequately sourced information. Now it appears you are going up and down this noticeboard, causing more trouble for your own twisted amusement. The sources given on this article in question were from two leading UK music magazines and are suitable for inclusion. You have already been reported to the Admin Notice Board this week by other editors for disruptive behaviour as seen here. 80.41.82.61 (talk) 04:13, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Your comments are unworthy of AGF editing and verging on rude, please comment on the edits and not the editor. As I said those citations were poorly cited and if you look someone has found some stronger ones. Off2riorob (talk) 09:53, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Your history of disruptive behaviour speaks for itself. Get off Misplaced Pages and find something else to occupy your time. 80.41.31.169 (talk) 12:21, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Why not log in and be uncivil? Off2riorob (talk) 15:50, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed). 80.41.30.16 (talk) 22:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Result - No action. Another admin lifted the semiprotection on September 30. In his log message he advised that the IP responsible for the BLP stuff be blocked if he adds the material again. The offending IPs seem to come from the 80.41.* range. EdJohnston (talk) 03:45, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Some people need to pay closer attention. The admin who lifted his own semi-protection of the page was referring to the IP user who had been reported in this very thread (82.29.16.209) as s/he had been removing sourced material without reason or discussion for some weeks now. Several editors have been restoring the details only for the 82.29.16.209 IP to remove it again. The debate about the material not being sourced well enough is another discussion for another board, but the fact is it met WP:V adequately and has now had further sources added anyway. Not that I think this will stop the guilty party from removing it again, and if that does happen, it means this whole exercise has been nothing more than a completely pointless debate. 80.41.41.30 (talk) 17:21, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

copied from my talk page I had added semiprotection but then removed it about a minute later, thinking my action to be a mistake; I saw that 82.29.* seemed to be the only vandal, rather than 80.41. (who was providing refs). I gave 82.29.* a final warning at the time, so he can be blocked upon further disruption. In retrospect, the article shouldn't have been protected at all by me because there was not enough vandalism to warrant such an action. —Ed (talk • contribs) 17:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

80.41, feel free to join the article talk page to persuade the other editors that your negative BLP material is well-sourced. You have yet to make an appearance on Talk. And every time you edit you have a different IP, which does not suggest you will be a reliable partner in any ongoing conversation. EdJohnston (talk) 17:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh dear God, what a storm in a teacup this has become. Edjohnson: there is already a section on the article's talk page about the inclusion of the material and its repeated removal without reason. It's only a small section because the user who kept deleting the material (82.26...) has not responded to it in any way, nor has anyone else - so it seems that no "persuasion" was necessary. It seems that several editors (including 80.41...) have restored the information each time it is deleted, as it was indeed adequately sourced, which is why I reported the matter here in the first place. At no point prior to this report was a BLP issue ever mentioned by the person removing the information (in fact, nothing was ever mentioned as they refused to talk). Although I would encourage editors to make an account and sign in to edit articles, I do not feel that user(s) 80.41... has done anything wrong in this matter, as Ed has confirmed above, and I think your tone and suggestion of unreliability towards him/her is perhaps misdirected when the true culprit is obviously 82.29.16.209. I suggest we wait and see if the article gets vandalised again. MassassiUK 09:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I dont know if brewcrewer is being deliberately disingenuous or not, but what edit was the first "revert" a "revert" of? Is there a prior version of that article where "Israeli settlement" (by far the most common description of Israeli localities built in occupied territory) put before "communal village"? (There is not, the words "communal village" were added before "Israeli settlement" in this edit, my edit changed that order, but did not revert to any previous version). And I was not aware that an informal use of the word "gang" (2nd definition: crowd, crew, bunch) would rile him up so. And when 2 editors insist on retaining language used by an extreme minority in place of the most common descriptions across the world what exaclty should I do other than place a tag on the article and a notice on the talk explaining why? nableezy - 05:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Nableezy has clearly edit warred on use of the term massacre at Gaza War since the 27th. There have been even more over the last day due to some edits that may not be appropriate and there is certainly some 3rr violations in the last week or so. In his defense it looks like he truly believes he is preventing disruption. I think a block would only be punitive which is not appropriate when a simple reminder to show more caution in the future will serve the intended purpose.Cptnono (talk) 05:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Since you bring that up my brief look at the history of that article shows me making 7 reverts reinserting material in which 10 separate sources have been provided and which has been in the article for 10 months and has an RfC currently open over since the 27th. I may have missed something in my half-baked counting, but I dont think that constitutes edit-warring. nableezy - 05:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, your counting was off since the 27th. I went through real quick and saw 12 labeled revert or undo + another 2 that were not labeled due to long edit summaries (if I'm off by 1 my apologies). Roma jumped in on a couple to limit what I assume would have been a slightly larger total. Keep in mind it doesn't need to be a 3rr to be an edit war but you do have multiples on a few of the days in that period. You have the massacre thing and whatever is going on in the lead that you are constantly preventing changes to. That being said, others participated in the reverts and you were the one to actually seek RfC on the massacre thing so it would be crappy to pin it all on you.Cptnono (talk) 06:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I was counting specifically reverts of the removal of the term "Gaza massacre". There were certainly other reverts. And the ones in which there was a legitimate dispute (between me and Jiujitsuguy) were both resolved easily and amicably. But this report is about something else entirely. nableezy - 06:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Looks like it. Well to whatever admin is reviewing this it is shown that Nableezy has a tendency to revert alot. None of it is malicious so hopefully a quick reminder but not a block is in order.Cptnono (talk) 07:09, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Ma'ale Shomron is an Israeli settlement in the West Bank. That is by far the most common description in English sources, and the version Nableezy correctly prefers. Brewcrewer and Shuki want to call it a communal village in Samaria, which is the language of the Israeli political right wing. That's what this is all about. Zero 06:35, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

• Comment - I think it would have been more helpful if brewcrewer had counseled the 'other editor' Shuki, that his objections to the standard NPOV term 'Israeli Settlement' in Ma'ale Shomron and other articles like Modi'in Illit (which have included reasons like the term being an attempt to 'delegitimze and dehumanize') are inconsistent with core policies. Perhaps have could have pointed him towards the Editors counseled section in the discretionary sanctions. That way, this whole situation could have been avoided. Sean.hoyland - talk 07:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

• Comment Are these attempts to justify Nableezy's revert behaviour on this page (and apparently others as documented above)? Sean, editors who see poor and disruptive editting behaviour should not need to canvass other editors before reporting such behaviour. ANd thanks for a link to that 'editors counseled' advice because that is exactly what I did on the city of Modi'in Illit article, and my withdrawal from that discussion (as suggested by 'editors counseled') did not and does not mean that I approve of Nableezy's OR judgement there about what is 'a common description'. In this specific Ma'ale Shomron case, it certainly is not POV to call a village a village but it the struggle to remove it from the article might be POV. The secondary label 'Israeli settlement' was not removed so there is no attempt to POV either on my part. It is certainly poor editing (and poor syntax) to deprecate the main description of the subject of an article (type of locality: neighbourhood, village, town, city, etc...) to a vague and general label 'Israeli settlement' in the same sentence. And when 'Israeli settlement' can mean anything from a house on a hilltop to a city with 40 000 people, stores, factories, schools, etc..., then the 'specific' description cannot be reasonably deprecated to a general one. It was probably is taken for granted that locality articles on WP do not need BLP type guidlelines, but perhaps we do need them in this case. --Shuki (talk) 10:10, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

This report misrepresents some basic facts. At the page in question, Nableezy made two reverts, and Shuki, commenting just above, made two herself. RolandR made one backing up Nableezy and Brewcrewer made one backing up Shuki. The page should be protected to allow all involved to discuss. But to try and single out Nableezy for sanctions is punitive. At Gaza War (which isn't even the subject of this report, but has been mentioned) Nableezy reverted to restore the consensus version, up for 10 months now, for which there is an ongoing RfC. Those changing the text without regard for the ongoing RfC and without support for their changes are the ones being disruptive there. Brewcrewer, you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to prevent a good contributor from editing by misrepresenting their edits and eliding your own role, and tose of your "allies" in both disputes. Tiamut 12:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Although there has been a disingenuous attempt to rewrite the lead to state that Ma'ale Shomron is "Also known as a 'settlement'", the facts are not really in dispute. For most of the world, the salient fact is that this is not primarily "a communal village", but "an Israeli settlement". Strictly speaking, it should be described as "an illegal Israeli settlement", but this usage has caused an inordinate amount of edit-warring in the past. The argument above that there are settlements of different sizes misses the point entirely; this phrase describes the nature and status of the community, not its magnitude. It's also rather odd to attempt to blame Nableezy for the fact that many editors who disagree with him have been blocked for edit-warring on this article. I see no valid complaint here. RolandR 16:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

comment shuki has been systematically editing articles with respect to their status as israeli settlements, often with misleading or 'minor' edit summaries. see , , , , , , - and this is only a partial list over the last couple of weeks. nableezy and others have been doing their best to prevent disruption by this user, but he simply moves on to another one as soon as editors tell him he is wrong. this report is focused on the wrong editor. furthermore, brewcrewer engaged in reversions without discussion as well, although his were against the consensus and source based version. untwirl(talk) 20:17, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Untwirl, trying to change the accusation here to me? Nice job. And may I ask how you found out about this discussion given your recent absence and if anyone informed you? So, how does my WP interests contribute to this issue on Nableezy's edit warring habits? Your accusation attack is baseless, and nonWP:AGF. My edits are NPOV and if you can find a real issue about that, then make the effort to report me without the silly accusation to discredit me. As opposed to Nableezy who avoids edit summaries half the time as you can see here, and your mainly cryptic non-explanatory edit summaries here, my edit summaries over the past few years are on the most part detailed, explanatory and probably over-descriptive of the content of the edits, much more than both of you together. --Shuki (talk) 23:39, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

this would be a more accurate link to provide for "edit summaries" but where did that even come from? And if you are counting you made exactly the same number of reverts as I did, though you did so to emphasize the language used by a fringe sized minority before what is used in the vast majority of sources. And yet you oddly invoke NPOV while doing this. But what does this have to do with anything. I made 2 reverts, you made 2 reverts. And you have yet to make one comment on the talk page as to why we should not use the most common description of places first? In fact nobody has said why we should not do so. So would you care to explain how it is that I am edit-warring but you somehow are not? Forgive my lack of edit summaries where it does not matter, like this board. nableezy - 01:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

• Stale Somewhat stale now and I'm not convinced blocking is going to solve anything at this juncture. Rather, Shuki (talk · contribs) is notified of Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles and the article in question watchlisted. I would be inclined to apply discretionary sanctions if the edit-warring over the order of adjectival phrases in the ledes of such articles continues. Involved editors may prefer to go to WP:AE for further reports. CIreland (talk) 16:30, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't get it. Really. A case is opened about Nableezy edit warring (with a history of edit warring), and the result is that I get a warning/caution of I/P conflict articles? Nableezy already received that notice a few months ago and his issue is simply ignored? Before this is even over, he went and reverted again. What is stale about that? --Shuki (talk) 21:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Matthew hk reported by Alan (Result: )

Page: Charles K. Kao (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Matthew hk (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

• While other users were making contributions to the infobox in the article Charles K. Kao, User:Matthew hk just deleted those contributions immediately. I regard this massive deletion as a form of vandalism. He has been warned that he would be banned if he violates the 3RR rule, but he keeps on reverting. He refuses to resolve the problem on the talk pages. I find this very disrespectful, and is harmful to the harmony of Misplaced Pages. Since he doesn't care about the warning, warning obviously does nothing to him. I think he should be banned from editing. - Alan (talk) 14:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

• I had blocked without waring. The last waring is 1 minute before my last SAVED edition. And started the edit war is on the university he graduated. User:Alanmak 4 edit is pure violate MOS of flags and adding unreliable fact for his nationality, to add eight flag, my act is to revert vandalism. And the 4 "revert" have minor different. Matthew_hk tc 18:39, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Severino reported by User:Aardwolf777 (Result: Sockpuppet accounts blocked)

Page: Hendrik Frensch Verwoerd (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Severino (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

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Comments:

Comment: Please note Aardwolf777 appears to be a sockpuppet (of whichever account caused the page to be locked down recently), as does Lion777 (talk · contribs), who jumped in after this report to make the same edits. Dayewalker (talk) 19:34, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

• Declined Sockpuppet accounts blocked. Returning spammer with registered accounts as IP range was blocked. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
• Page protected Protection reset. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Krakatoa reported by User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (Result: Voluntary 1 wk ban)

Page: Anne Applebaum (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Krakatoa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: see full discussion, involving multiple editors, on article talk page

Comments:
More fallout from the Roman Polanski controversy. Due to the initial edit war on this article, the page was protected for several days, and debate continued on the article talk page during the protection. (The issue was also debate at WP:BLPN, where the prevailing sentiment ran against the disputed content.) Shortly after the protection expired, without reaching any consensus for his preferred version of the dsputed content, User:Krakatoa reinserted a partially rewritten version of his favored text into the article, removing some objectionable comments but adding additional comments, some quoted, severely disparaging the article subject into the references. The opening section of the text, Krakatoa's subjective, unfavorable summary of an opinion piece written by the article subject, has remained unchanged, and constitutes a WP:BLP violation. Several editors, myself included, have also expressed the belief that the contested text violates the "Praise and criticism" section of WP:BLP by placing inappropriate and excessive importance on an event of no particular significance in the subject's career. Particularly disturbing is Krakatoa's focus on finding and citing provocatively titled blog comments, characterizing the subject, for example, as the "friend of a rapist." Even the claim that the subject's writing "created a firestorm" of criticism is sourced only to a blog.
The bottom line should be this: when multiple editors reasonably object to disputed content and raise BLP objections, it's simply not acceptable editing behavior to edit war to keep the disputed content in the article without substantively addressing the BLP issues. It's certainly not acceptable to violate 3RR to do so. WP:BLP authorizes the repeated removal of offensive content without regard to 3RR limits, but Krakatoa's behavior suggests that to do that will simply intensify the edit warring (note comments like this , so I've brought the matter here. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 19:32, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

As Hullaballoo Wolfowitz noted, this page was blocked for three days by administrator Tedder. The form of the article blocked by Tedder originally contained a paragraph regarding Applebaum's columns about Polanski and other writers' reaction to it. While the block was still in effect, Tedder removed that paragraph, but made no judgment whether it was appropriate or inappropriate, explaining "revert to more neutral version as the article is under full protection against BLP issues. Of course, see WP:WRONG". See ]. During the three days that the page remained blocked, I spent hours responding to criticisms of the disputed material on the Talk page: ], addressing as best I could, and in good faith, all of the points raised by any editor who cared to participate. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz did not participate in those discussions, although he had done so earlier. After the page was unblocked, I added a different paragraph about the Polanski controversy (the so-called "1st revert" above). I did not and do not understand this to be a "revert," since the paragraph I added was different from that deleted by Tedder. I had changed the paragraph to remove sources of questionable reliability; add other, more reliable, sources; and make the paragraph more objective and concise. (I have since made further efforts to make the paragraph more objective and concise. It now apparently is acceptable to everyone except Hullaballoo Wolfowitz). H.W. then, without discussion or attempting to reach consensus, reverted my edit. I reverted him, he reverted me a second time (again without discussion on the Talk page), I reverted him a second time, he reverted me a third time, and I reverted him a third time (again, not to my understanding, a fourth time). At 16:25, a minute before his third revert, he had complained on the Talk page that I had failed to address Applebaum's response to the claim that she had a COI. I added a sentence to the article to address that - see ]. I have continued to discuss the disputed material on the Talk page with David Eppstein and H.W. (see above link and ), and to modify the article to address concerns raised by other editors. I do not think I have violated the 3-revert rule or acted in bad faith.

H.W.'s contention that I have not addressed the supposed BLP issues is baseless. I have discussed those alleged issues in both of the sections of the Talk page linked above. It appears that no one besides H.W. currently thinks that there is a BLP issue. As I said on the Talk page, Applebaum undisputedly wrote the two columns in question, and other writers indisputably criticized those columns in the manner described in the article.

As for my supposed "disturbing" search for "provocatively titled blog comments" like "friends of a rapist", I have made no such search. The title in question - "What's with these friends of a rapist?" - is the title of an opinion piece (not a "blog comment") by Katha Pollitt in the mainstream, conservative, well-respected Chicago Tribune - see . However, I am sick of this. I have over 15,000 edits and am the editor primarily responsible for the Featured Articles First-move advantage in chess and George H. D. Gossip. If you think that H.W.'s claims have merit, please ban me for life and I will either get on with my life or kill myself, as appropriate.

Two other editors have since made minor edits to the paragraph in question. See ] and ]. The bottom line is that consensus now appears to have been reached, on the part of everyone except H.W., no thanks to him/her. Krakatoa (talk) 21:45, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Consensus has not been reached to keep this paragraph in the article. This paragraph places undue weight on one incident in her career, and just because someone does not keep replying to every comment reiterating their views does not mean that they have changed their view. You continued to re-add the paragraph despite ongoing BLP concerns of other editors. This edit to the talk page by User:CanuckMike even threatened to edit war to keep the paragraph in. Martin451 (talk) 13:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I perceive that Krakatoa's four reverts listed in this report are genuine reverts within 24 hours, with the last one happening at 16:29 on October 6. This violates WP:3RR. It appears that this issue won't go away without some kind of admin action, so I have asked Krakatoa if he will stay off the article for one week in lieu of other sanctions. The issue has already been at BLPN and RFPP. Admins Tedder and David Eppstein have tried to assist but the dispute continues. Another spell of full protection does not sound like it would be productive. EdJohnston (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Result - On his talk, Krakatoa has agreed to accept a voluntary one week ban from the article. It will expire at 16:48 UTC on 14 October. People are encouraged to open an RfC to solve the outstanding issues. EdJohnston (talk) 17:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Sturunner reported by User:Unbiasedpov (Result: 24h to both)

Page: Godhra Train Attack (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Sturunner (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) abusing and bullying other users.

Previous version reverted to:

• 1st revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Godhra_Train_Attack&diff=316803209&oldid=316572169
• 2nd revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Godhra_Train_Attack&diff=316800952&oldid=316571338
• 3rd revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Godhra_Train_Attack&diff=316800952&oldid=316571338
• 4th revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Godhra_Train_Attack&diff=317193465&oldid=317006130

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Godhra_Train_Attack

Comments

You of all people ought to be talking, "Unbiasedpov". You are the one who came out of nowhere and started moving pages without any discussion at all. The link you gave to your "discussion" (now at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Godhra_train_burning&action=history) shows no evidence that you tried to engage anyone. And all the history is there. I made very sure that I cleaned up the mess you made correctly. J.delanoy_adds 05:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

FYI: Article is redlinked because «04:56, 7 October 2009 J.delanoy (talk | contribs) deleted "Godhra Train Attack" ‎ (Speedy deleted per CSD G6, non-controversial maintenance. (TW))» — Sizzle Flambé (☎/✍) 06:49, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

FYI: Made "REDIRECT Godhra train burning" at the other (deleted) page titles, Godhra train attack / Godhra train incident / Godhra train massacre (with and without capitalizations), so the surviving article can be found. — Sizzle Flambé (☎/✍) 07:00, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

• Result - 24 hours for move warring to both parties. See Sturunner's move log and Unbiasedpov's move log for the repeated moves. (Sturunner, though he did not initiate the move war on the train, has moved two articles three times each since September 29). Unbiasedpov was the first person to move the Godhra train article, and he should not have continued to move it after it was clear that the move was contested. Neither editor did a proper investigation as to whether these moves had consensus before they did them. Sturunner's move of Day care sex abuse hysteria was also discussed (after the event) at User_talk:Hersfold#Locked a page on the non-consensus state :( and on the article's talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 13:57, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Wilhelm meis reported by User: 99.142.15.209 (Result: No vio)

Page: Talk:Roman Polanski (edit | article | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Wilhelm meis (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: link permitted

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

It's a simple issue. Meis objects to a section heading which clearly indicates the issue being discussed and has taken it upon himself to suppress and censor clear discussion of Reliably Sourced content germane to the article's subject. When appropriately notified of policy regarding 3RR and the removal/refactoring of another's legitimate edits - he reverted the policy suggested template found in the instructions for this page and marked the edit as "Vandalism". 99.142.15.209 (talk) 15:45, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Meis was attempting to insure that 99's header was complaint with BLP policies. 99 has a history of contentious behavior and of posting lurid headings on the talk page announcing his/her latest unflattering find regarding the subject of the article. While I will not get in an unblock wheel war if another admin decides to block Meis, I object to any such block strongly. Gamaliel (talk) 15:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

In what way are verifiable, reliably sourced, specific issues which are directly germane to the article in any possible way a violation of BLP? It appears that policy is being falsely asserted here to inappropriately and abusively bully discussion around. Short-circuiting discussion through false policy in order to censor and suppress discussion is an absolute violation. It is fundamentally wrong. 99.142.15.209 (talk) 16:06, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Meis' small, trivial change is not a matter deserving blocking. 99.142/141 is attempting to pick fights at every juncture with other editors (including me). This is another example. I object to the blocking of Meis, who has made valuable comments and maintained his composure in what is a testy Talk page. Oberon Fitch 16:04, 7 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oberonfitch (talk • contribs)

Note, oberonfitch is a week old editor - his claim needs to be supported by diff's. (His complaint is false, he will not add relevant diffs)99.142.15.209 (talk) 16:20, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I support a 24-hour block for 3RR violation, this is a rather clear cut case, and we cannot make an exception from policy for Wilhelm meis. I disagree that Meis was "attempting to nsure that 99's header was complaint with BLP policies", I don't see how the original section heading was in any way problematic. Both the section heading preferred by the IP and the one preferred by Meis work fine, the problem is Meis' habit of starting edit wars, even over such ridiculously minor issues. Wilhelm meis has also previously intentionally been edit-warring against several editors, and the article had to be protected because of one of his edit wars ("Full protection, here we come!"). It should also be noted that he has a bad habit of mass-templating his opponents. Urban XII (talk) 16:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

• No violation Removal of material that violates WP:BLP is not subject to the three-revert-rule. It seems clear that the diffs given above show such a removal. I am more inclined to ask why it was considered necessary to edit-war to restore the obviously sensationalist heading. CIreland (talk) 16:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

As you're making a finding of fact that the material violates BLP - Please support your contention.

BLP clearly states, "If an allegation or incident is notable, relevant, and well-documented by reliable published sources, it belongs in the article—even if it's negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it."

The item was sourced to his biography, is mentioned in related articles on Misplaced Pages and is discussed from his point of view as to why he did it in his auto-biography. This has all been discussed in the Talk page.

I urge you to reconsider your unsupported basis for rendering a decision here.99.142.15.209 (talk) 16:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I urge User:CIreland to show us some evidence for how the section heading was a violation of the BLP policy, which I consider to be a false claim. Edit-warring is not acceptable, and an experienced user like Wilhelm meis should know better than intentionally breaking the 3-revert-rule. Urban XII (talk) 17:01, 7 October 2009 (UTC) 

• It is clear that Judith Reisman is not a reliable source for this, and thus it was a BLP violation to state it in the header. Mention should be made of Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#99.144.255.247, this is not the first time the IP edit wars to restore inappropriate talk page material, as can be seen here: . I had filled the ANI report for outside opinions and given the continuation of the disruption, blocked the IP for 48 hours. The section that is the subject of this report was created shortly after its expiration. I have indicated however that I would not take further admin action on this user, as I am tired of this and maybe other admins can handle it. Cenarium (talk) 17:26, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Judith Reisman is not in relevant. We're referring to A: His Biography which mentions it. B: His Autobiography mentions it. and C: The specific mention of the controversy that exists in the Tate article. 99.142.15.209 (talk) 17:37, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

User:DreamGuy reported by User:Shoemaker's Holiday (Result: 1 week)

Page: Candide (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: DreamGuy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

A little background: Candide is a fairly recent featured article. It contains a lengthy plot summary, but there's substantial discussion of the work within the plot summary. WP:NOTPLOT is very explicitly only forbidding/discouraging articles that consist solely or almost entirely of primary-sourced plot summaries.

He was given a last chance in the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive568#User:DreamGuy, to stop, or be blocked or banned from tagging

DreamGuy is editwarring against a clear talk-page consensus, and the FA reviewers. See Talk:Candide#DreamGuy

Previous version reverted to:

There is no 3RR violation, simply edit-warring against a clear consensus (this is a recent FA, for god's sake!)

Candide (Talk:Candide#DreamGuy - talk page discussion) 2 October

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:

3 October

• 3rd revert: (just to note, Casliber reverted this. I removed some IP vandalism before the next bit happened)

7 October

• 4th revert:

All the edit summaries are personal attacks, see Candide

See also the very similar edit warring at Roy of the Rovers, also an FA. Shoemaker's Holiday 16:13, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

This is a deceptive report, filed solely to try to wikilawyer his way into prevailing in difference of opinion. The claim that there is consensus is both false and misleading, as some FA result in no way endorses all content of that article for all time. His argument here would mean that nobody could then ever tag or edit an article ever again after it came up at FA, which is of course complete nonsense. On top of that, he's trying to use the Roy of the Rovers case as an example of my supposedly not listening to other people, but in that case people agreed with me and cut out the offending ridiculously long plot summary, thus proving his edits to be misplaced and against consensus. Shoemaker's Holiday has to get over these highly aggressive and misleading attacks, and at this point his behavior has continued on ANI and here in such a way as to constitute wikihounding. Also, his claims about what WP:NOTPLOT covers -- only forbidding/discouraging articles that consist solely or almost entirely of primary-sourced plot summaries -- are outright false. The actual policy says nothing of the sort, but rather specifies that plots must be "concise" and encyclopedic. The plot summaries in question were anything but concise. Shoemaker's Holiday has tried and failed to change the policy to say something other than what it actually does, and he has made no secret of his desire to completely remove that portion of policy. The problem is that he acts like that policy does not exist and then because highly aggressive and threatening when people do follow it, as we are all required to do. DreamGuy (talk)

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Candide#DreamGuy, Wikipedia_talk:How_to_write_a_plot_summary#This_essay, Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive568#User:DreamGuy Comments:

1 week, not for 3RR exactly, but rather for overall disruptive editing. –Juliancolton |  17:15, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Imalbornoz reported by User:RedCoat10 (Result: stale)

Page: Gibraltar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Imalbornoz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: see Talk:Gibraltar#Detail_of_Capture

Comments:
The user insists on reverting to a version for which there is currently no consensus. Has previously been warned for edit-warring. Needs to cool down. RedCoat10 • talk 16:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Stale at this point. I'll keep an eye on it. –Juliancolton |  13:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

User:NE2 reported by User:TimberWolf Railz (Result: )

Page: Template:Infobox SG rail museum (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: NE2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

Also alongside the above are mirror reverts falling under the same timeframe at: Monticello Railway Museum, Indiana Transportation Museum, Infobox rail museum, Illinois Railway Museum.

From what looks to be tendentious editing, User:NE2 appears to insist on reverting to a version that general consensus has not agreed upon. He has gone through five different pages performing a series of excessive reverts and removal of referenced information to meet an unverified point-of-view, all of which were appropriately rolled back as unconstructive by User:Wuhwuzdat and per extensive discussion at WP:CNB; though the user has continued to revert through multiple occasions within a period of 24 hours, avoiding discussion and consensus building, thus violating WP:3RR policies on each page. –TimberWolf Railz (talk) 23:13, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Ryulong reported by User:Powergate92 (Result: 24 h)

Page: Kamen Rider Double (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Ryulong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

• 1st revert: diff
• 2nd revert: diff
• 3rd revert: diff
• 4th revert: diff

Ryulong knows about WP:3RR as he was blocked for violating WP:3RR on July 30, 2009.

Comments:
In March 2009 there was a discussion at WikiProject Tokusatsu where it was agreed that number of episodes in infoboxes are OK. On October 4, 2009 User:Ryulong (the only user in that discussion who thinks number of episodes should not be in infoboxes) removed the number of episodes in the infobox in the Kamen Rider Double article, so I reverted has edit per the discussion at WikiProject Tokusatsu and he was edit warring over it until today (see the revision history of Kamen Rider Double for that edit war, diff 1 and diff 2 are from within the last 24 hours). After that he added a message to the article saying "This number does not need to be updated on a weekly basis. Only update monthly" but it was also agreed at the WikiProject Tokusatsu discussion that the numbers can be update weekly, so I reverted his edit per the WikiProject Tokusatsu discussion and then he started edit warring over that (see diff 3 and diff 4). Powergate92Talk 02:32, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

There is currently an ongoing discussion about the content in question which can be found at WT:TOKU#Infobox numbers. In the process of this two-sided edit war, Powergate92 got Black Kite to revert me for him. And the four reverts he has picked out are to different content. The first two reverts are undoing his preferred content for the article. The last two reverts are a hidden tag I added after I reverted myself and added back the content Powergate92 prefers, but he disagrees with the tag. Powergate92 does not edit the article regularly and has only shoehorned himself in for reasons I don't understand.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

As I said on my talk page "I did not ask Black Kite to revert your edit, I asked Black Kite "What do you think about this?"" and "I was asking other user what they think about this, if you look, you will see that the users I asked (User:Ckatz and User:Black Kite) are users I disagreed with within the last month." Powergate92Talk 03:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

To clarify, there was only an agreement that the number could be there. There was no agreement on how often it should be updated. Right now there is a discussion to clarify what should and should not be on the articles, for which I am waiting more input from the editing community. Also, there have been no edits (contentious or not) to the article in the past hour and a half. A block at this point would be punitive and unhelpful to anyone.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:54, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

In the March discussion at WikiProject Tokusatsu, User:Bignole said "if a group of editors wish to update a number every week, and the community (in this case the Tokusatsu community) does not have a problem with it, then that's the way it should be." I said "I agree with Bignole." and User:Mythdon said "What I want to have done in this situation is fully my opinion. If you don't want to update weekly, then simply don't do it. Me and Powergate92 want to update weekly. Fair enough?." That sounds like a agreement to me. Powergate92Talk 05:19, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Also, the last time I was blocked for 3RR it happened several hours after the edit war had ceased and Powergate92 decided to report me for it, regardless. The old discussion can be seen here. This is the second time that Powergate92 has reported me to this board simply because an edit war had occured and he feels someone needs to be blocked for it.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

All I can really say about this that hasn't already been said is that Powergate92 is a rather contentious editor who has made virtually no content contributions to pages under WP:TOKU; nearly all of his work in this project consists of picking fights with Ryulong over formatting issues and performing mass date delinking, which IIRC is forbidden by a couple of ArbCom cases. jgpTC 03:22, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Completely uninvolved editor checking in. I read the discussion at WikiProject Tokusatsu carefully and did not see a consensus, nor even a formal call for consensus, rather there were three editors carrying on a discussion, two disagreed with each other, one offered a neutral position while another editor (now banned) chimed in. Extrapolating a consensus here is wishful thinking. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC).

As I said on my talk page "On September 3, 2009 I added some info to the "International broadcasts" section in the Kamen Rider: Dragon Knight article, on October 5, 2009 I added some references to the "Production" section in the Power Rangers: RPM article. Also I edit other articles you know as I been editing the Stargate Universe‎ article and I made the article Spliced (TV series)." Also on October 3, 2009 I made a minor edit to the plot of the Kamen Rider: Dragon Knight episodes "Kamen Rider Wrath" in the List of Kamen Rider: Dragon Knight episodes article. And I made the article List of Power Rangers: RPM episodes Powergate92Talk 03:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I would to note that the March WikiProject Tokusatsu discussion was started as a discussion at WikiProject Television. Powergate92Talk 05:19, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Still no consensus determined anywhere. The WPTV discussion says, again, that the community who edits the particular pages should decide what happens. That has yet to occur.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:46, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

To the reviewing admin, it has now been approximately six hours since any reverts have been made.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 07:35, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

And now fifteen hours after I made that last statement.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:08, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

• Blocked for 24h. The merits of the contested material, and who if anybody has consensus on his side, are irrelevant under WP:EW. The report is not stale, and the block not punitive, because the article remains in the version preferred by Ryulong and he has neither reverted himself nor promised to stop reverting, and has indeed made an additional revert of another editor (). The block is therefore required to prevent continued edit warring.  Sandstein  11:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Onefinalstep reported by User:BobMifune (Result: )

Page: Mark Levin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: User:Onefinalstep

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:
• 5th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

User:Onefinalstep is repeatedly blanking the "Controversies and Criticism" section of the article, a section which is being debated and discussed on the article Talk page. In the last 48 hours, a spate of new and long-dormant editors (including Onefinalstep) have arrived at the Levin article and engaged in everything from blanking to outright vandalism, due to the article subject (a radio host) directing his listeners to deface the page here. It's not unreasonable to suggest that Onefinalstep's blanking is an offshoot of this campaign. --BobMifune (talk) 02:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Yep; the discussion is still ongoing and he removed the content whilst the discussion was ongoing, first without explaination. Clearly violated the 3RR rule; suggest a temporary block until a concensus regarding the section can be reached. --A3RO (mailbox) 03:55, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Could this contretemps be construed more as a content dispute that needs to be resolved on the article talk page? FWiW Bzuk (talk) 04:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC).

Apparently not. He's blanked it again. Action requested, please. --BobMifune (talk) 16:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Admins have gotten involved. As a result, the section has been moved to the Talk section for further discussion. Therefore Onefinalstep has essentially been proven correct. This matter should be closed with no action taken against Onefinalstep. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 00:03, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

See here and here. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 00:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

He was not correct in breaking 3RR over a content dispute, sorry. His interpretation of BLP is roughly summed up as "no criticism ever". Shall we allow him to edit war over every article using this interpretation? I think it's shameful he hasn't been blocked over a 5RR. Gamaliel (talk) 17:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you. However, given the circumstances, I highly doubt Onefinalstep will be acting in that fashion again. I think he learned his lesson. The purpose of a block is to teach him a lesson and to stop the repeat reverts. That purpose has already been achieved, and Onefinalstep has been working again with the community. Had the block come sooner, I would have had no problem with it. But as time has passed, it no longer serves the purpose for which it was intended. So, like I said, I agree with you, but time has moved on and a block at this time is not appropriate, at least in my opinion, for what that's worth. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 17:52, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm inclined to reluctantly agree. While the lack of prompt response to this complaint is unfortunate, it's a long time since the offense, and he's stopped, so there's no real point in blocking him now. A discouraging official word would be nice and would drive the point home in case he hasn't gotten it, however. Gamaliel (talk)

Cool. I've been friendly to him. Perhaps you ought to leave such a message for him--I'm not an official!!  ;) --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 19:02, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Doncram and User:Polaron reported by User:Elkman (Result: On hold)

Page: San Ignacio, Texas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Users being reported: Doncram (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and Polaron (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

There has been a long running edit war between Polaron and Doncram on geography articles and historic places. Acroterion (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) has been attempting to mediate this dispute, but Polaron and Doncram are still at it. These two have been steadily reverting each other's edits and working up to 3RR on individual articles, but they've gone over three reverts in this series of diffs:

Polaron edit 17:16, 5 October 2009

Doncram revert 1 22:29, 6 October 2009

Polaron revert 1

Doncram revert 2

Polaron revert 2, plus another edit thereafter

Doncram revert 3

Polaron revert 3

Doncram revert 4

Polaron revert 4

Doncram revert 5

Polaron revert 5 20:49, 7 October 2009

Other articles where they've only gone up to 3RR include: San Miguel Island (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) 10-07-09

Polaron add

Doncram revert 1

Polaron revert 1

Doncram revert 2

Polaron revert 2

Doncram revert 3

Polaron revert 3

Virginia City Historic District (Virginia City, Nevada) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), 10-07-09

Polaron edit

Doncram revert 1

Polaron revert 1

Doncram revert 2

Polaron revert 2

Chiricahua National Monument (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), 10-07-09

Polaron edit

Doncram revert 1

Polaron revert 1

Doncram revert 2

Polaron revert 2

Doncram revert 3

Polaron revert 3

Silver City, Idaho (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), 10-07-09

Polaron edit

Doncram revert 1

Polaron revert 1

Doncram revert 2

Polaron revert 2

Doncram revert 3

Polaron revert 3

Historic Village of the Narragansetts in Charlestown (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), 10-07-09

Polaron edit

Doncram revert 1

Polaron revert 1

Doncram revert 2

Polaron revert 2

Doncram revert 3

Polaron revert 3

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: I haven't specifically warned Polaron and Doncram of their behavior, but they've been warned by others. is Acroterion's latest warning to Polaron, while I believe Acroterion's correspondence to Doncram has been at User talk:Acroterion.

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: is the current version of User talk:Acroterion. User talk:Acroterion#Mediation contains a long, drawn-out description of this. Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places#Winter Island Historic District and Archeological District -- raises a general procedural question is also an example of the argument.

Comments:

I am not involved with any of the revert cycles. I have been involved in the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places, where it's obvious that I'm frustrated with the edit wars and with the project in general. --Elkman 05:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Comment: I've tried working with both parties here, but it's clear that they intend to use the letter of 3RR to further their conflict. My efforts have yielded occasional fruit, but it has reached the point that their behavior must be modified by a more formal and enforced process. As part of my mediation I stated that I wouldn't use blocks myself to enforce good behavior, but it is clear that behavior modification must be backed up by sanctions. Both editors' positions are so entrenched that, while they've occasionally reached an accommodation on a single issue, the truce has been swiftly broken by one party or another. Both editors make valuable contributions, but must understand that their actions have poisoned the air around the NRHP wikiproject. I'd suggest they be formally restricted to 1RR (I'd informally asked them to abide by 1RR, but that's been cast aside), enforced by blocks of appropriate duration. An entire ban on splits and merges by the two editors, and submission to binding mediation might be indicated. Acroterion _(talk) 12:08, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Comment (ec) Acroterion seemingly would prefer for the conflict to disappear by my allowing the unsourced assertions and the combative redirects to stand, thus handing the field to Polaron and allowing him to keep extending the battleground. The battleground is every article he touches, where he has shown by past behavior that he will edit war to protect his personal knowledge-based judgements. It's also more complicated as there are other editors involved. I object somewhat to Acroterion's implication that the conflict is among two equal editors.

Before ec, what I wrote was: What this relates to is a broad campaign by Polaron to redirect and merge town/village articles with NRHP-listed historic districts. In hundreds of cases, Polaron has unilaterally implemented redirects replacing existing articles, or create new redirects, and in some cases edit the merger target articles, all without providing sources upfront and without complying with Misplaced Pages style and content guidelines. Polaron also makes related edits in articles making unsourced assertions. In general he has either been unable or unwilling to provide wp:RS reliable sources supporting his assertions. He has shown extraordinary stubbornness to defend redirects and unsourced assertions by edit warring to restore them, supported only by edit summaries in which he asserts that what he wrote is true. In many cases however his personal knowledge has proven wrong and/or his judgment that a merger is appropriate has been found to be inappropriate. About a hundred redirects that he set up have been deleted in 7 batches at wp:RFD.

While I cannot delete the redirects that Polaron creates, I can delete the unsourced assertions and have been doing some of that; these cases are in that category. In one of these instances, the San Ygnacio one, Polaron has eventually provided a reference in an edit summary but not composed a reference in the article. In two recent cases he has eventually coughed up relevant sources that other editors then put into proper references in the articles.

A mediation process in which Acroterion was invited by Polaron and myself to be the mediator has plugged along slowly in dealing with several hundred cases in CT, VT, and RI. The bulk of the dispute may be seen at Talk:List of RHPs in CT and Talk pages and articles linked from there. At Talk:Poquetanuck is an extended discussion which was perhaps close to reaching some grandiose compromise between Polaron and myself, but which may not have met with agreement of Orlady, another determined participant. There was a ceasefire some time ago which Polaron has been enforcing a "status quo". However, the ceasefire and general process has seemingly failed in recent days, with expansion by Polaron to perhaps a hundred more cases nationwide and no action by Acroterion to actually curtail expansion of the conflict. Polaron has not stated this, but I suspect he is irked by the lack of progress in hundreds of disputed merger/splits, and has chosen now to escalate the problem.

About the 5RR count, I was unaware of being over 3RR in the San Ygnacio article. This shows a lack of skill on my part in edit warring. In previous active reverting back and forth with Polaron, he has been one ahead of me in the reversion process because he had been the one reopening a dormant problem case. He is meticulous in his counting and is absolutely reliable in practice in going up to 3RR. After i had opened a wp:3RR report about two months ago, Polaron advised me of his familiarity with the 3RR processes and that no action would be taken given that 4RR was not reached and that reporting was initiated by an involved party, which turned out to be exactly correct.

In my view, what's needed here is for Acroterion to step up and handle a process of reviewing the hundreds of disputed mergers and redirects, or for other WikiProject NRHP administrators to step up to that. A number of NRHP members have expressed embarrassment or similar emotions about the conflict, but there is no effective process to address the rising number of disputed cases. Unfortunately Acroterion has seemed to regard the problem as being the dispute itself, not the substance of the dispute. doncram (talk) 12:52, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

"The battleground is every article he touches" indicates that Doncram has been following Polaron around and reverting his edits. It's also unfair to ask other WP:NRHP administrators and editors to get involved in the dispute. The project doesn't have many administrators, and those who are administrators have their own opinions about the dispute. --Elkman 13:36, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I see, so it's now my problem that you're edit-warring? No. You may not edit-war. Period. You have ignored polite requests to restrict yourselves to 1RR. Your dispute doesn't give you license to behave as you have, and I've explained to you that my time is limited, and if you want me to judge "hundreds" of merge-split issues, I expect your behavior to be exemplary. I'm not going to read a wall of text for each one, followed by rebuttals and arguments of bad faith by various parties.

I was out of town all last week, and my time this week is restricted. I am a volunteer. You seem to believe that any criticism of your behavior is an endorsement of you opponent's, which is emphatically not the case. You must realize that the issue to be addressed here at AN3 is your behavior, not the editing dispute. The article issues may continue to be resolved as my time and that of others permits. The disruptive behavior must stop before any substantive work may proceed. Acroterion _(talk) 13:47, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

(ec) Responding to Elkman: No, the battleground was defined by Polaron's practices following his creation of several hundred redirects of CT NRHP articles in July 2008 more than a year ago. I eventually bumped into his edit warring on those when i had occasional cause to create NRHP stub articles (usually to support NRHP disambiguation). Others including Nyttend and Swampyank had also experienced Polaron's combative editing to defend his redirects. I became concerned that this was a minefield for potential NRHP editors who would not be able to deal effectively with an adamant edit warrior. I began addressing the problem a couple months ago, mostly organizing discussion at Talk:List of RHPs in CT. Following advice at previous 3RR report, i opened an RFC which was on that Talk page. At some point later Polaron and I discussed possible mediators whose judgments we would intend to accept, including two who had indeed expressed opinions already. Acroterion was one of those and he accepted the invitation to serve in that role. I note he was recently away from wikipedia for a while and has communicated he has little time to spend on this.

Responding to Acroterion: No i endure and accept plenty of criticism. I appreciate that you and me and everyone else involved are volunteers. If you focus on just the articles where there is reverting back and forth, though, you are condoning Polaron's creation of new redirects and expansion of his watchlist, where his past behavior shows he is committed to defending his personal knowledge-based opinions. What do you say, if not here then in some other Talk page, about the disruptive behavior of extension of the conflict by Polaron to articles nation-wide. There needs to be some limit on extension of the problem, and some progress in addressing the contested cases. Actually i think most old and new cases could be dealt with rapidly by deleting redirects (requires an admin) and supporting removal of unsourced assertions, in all cases where no reliable source describing relationship between HD and place is provided (which is almost all cases). Almost all of these are premature mergers, when obtaining the stupid NRHP document, which only I have done for any of these cases (except for one or two cases where Orlady found one online), would provide clear information. doncram (talk) 14:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Elkman that the edit warring between Doncram and Polaron has spiraled out of control. Acroterion made a noble effort to mediate, and has made some progress, but the continuation of senseless reverts indicates that additional action is needed.

This warring has hurt Misplaced Pages in many ways. One is the time absorbed by the fundamentally pointless activity of seemingly endless discussions of topics about which nobody actually has any information (see Talk:Poquetanuck, for just one example). Another is the demotivating effect on the NRHP Wikiproject, which is already noted here. There also is damage to articles. Much of the warring has been repetitive merging and splitting of articles, which often damages the articles because bits and pieces have gotten lost in the process. I can also point to numerous cases that I consider to be disruption of Misplaced Pages to make a point, including (but not limited to) the insertion of nonencyclopedic speculative statements (such as saying that a particular building may or may not be in a particular historic district) into article space.

It's no secret that Doncram and I have had issues for a long time. My perception has been that he was convinced that I was out to get him, so he started following me around and doing things that could be predicted to provoke a reaction. I've tended to be sympathetic to Polaron in this, partly because there were some instances where I agreed with him, but also because I perceive that Doncram let up on his harassment of me and started following Polaron around instead. At this time, however, I judge that both parties are fully engaged in warring. --Orlady (talk) 14:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't condone the edit warring. But nowhere has anyone provided an real alternative between the edit warring or letting Polaron spew his messiness wherever he wants. Doncram has repeatedly and in many forums asked for help with the fundamental problem of Polarons unsourced. personal knowledge based redirects. All anyone ever does is say "stop fighting". It's impossible to deal with every one individually. What IS the venue? I'll take it there and ask for help, if Doncram has damaged his credibility. Is the only answer anyone is espousing to let Polaron have his way? Asking Doncram to stop reverting Polaron is in effect allowing Polaron's disputed edits to stay everywhere he feels like putting them. Lvklock (talk) 17:35, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Lvklock for commenting. Following is my reply to Orlady that i put in without seeing your comment.

Response to Orlady: That's funny, I am pretty sure it has been you following me around. Having Orlady involved and somewhat taking Polaron's side has always complicated matters. I believe it has emboldened Polaron in making unsourced statements in articles, in edit warring to destroy articles actually under merger proposal at the very moment, and to expand the contested area. I think Orlady once or twice somewhat mildly condemned the edit warring by Polaron. She has raked me for every possible fault in something i wrote (like my writing a true, non-speculative, statement that a building might or might not be in a given historic district, a statement that I would never object to having corrected or moved to a Talk page, but is not harmful and is not wp:POINTY) but effectively condoned statements added by Polaron which might or might not be true at all, and which almost always are unsourced, and which Polaron will edit war incessantly to restore. In some cases Polaron may indeed have a source, but he is not able or willing to share it, and I cannot tell the difference between those and other cases where his judgment turns out to be wrong. I have perceived Orlady's efforts to round up sources that actually bore on the question to be generally helpful in spirit, although usually not adequate to answer the relevant questions. Questions which would be answered easily by the NRHP document that no one but me has been willing to obtain by request to the National Register. (It then turns out that sometimes Polaron's guesses on whether a merger is appropriate are sometimes on target and sometimes not.) Polaron has been exploiting the fact that redirects are easy to set up but hard to remove, and that he can easily set up a lot of them and edit war to protect them, without providing any mainspace statements and sources supporting their implicit assertions that the redirect topics are significantly related to the target articles. I would have hoped that Orlady, general a stickler for sourcing, would have facilitated removal of redirects and other elements of the unsupported mergers being set up and enforced by Polaron, which are effectively unsourced assertions. Also, Orlady's concern that true statements describing the situation but exposing lack of certain knowledge (like that a historic district includes part or all of a given hamlet or vice versa) cannot be allowed in mainspace, has effectively blocked using such statements as compromises until definitive sources can be found.

The long discussion at Talk:Poquetanuck was not about that one article; it was about what to do about merger proposals where information was lacking and no one was willing to get the NRHP document that would be definitive (which applies to almost all of the contested cases). An agreement between Polaron and me was actually reached on that one article, as a sort of test solution, and then Orlady promptly claimed not to understand the agreement and repeatedly edited contrary to it. This seemed to derail an approach to resolving the hundreds of CT cases, because if Orlady couldn't accept it and abide by it then there would be little prospect that it could be applied elsewhere.

About being fully engaged in edit warring, that is Polaron, whose practice has been to set up unsupported redirects and watchlist them and all related articles, like laying a minefield, and edit war when anyone else blunders in. The commitment by Polaron to edit warring is on, full-time, on all of these, you just don't observe it. What you do observe is where I have occasionally been setting off some of those mines by removing unsourced statements. Also, previous flareups happened when I occasionally created stub articles in replacement of redirects. You do not observe me adding unsourced statements to articles and battling to protect them. doncram (talk) 17:47, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I have left notes for Orlady and Acroterion trying to get some ideas for how to close this case. EdJohnston (talk) 18:03, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Some people think the participants might agree to a deal. This is now being explored at Acroterion's talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 20:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Result - On hold. Need to sort this out. If no agreement can be found at User talk:Acroterion, the case should be reopened and handled like a regular edit warring case. EdJohnston (talk) 22:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Vintagekits reported by User:Off2riorob (Result: 1 week block)

Page: Audley Harrison (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Vintagekits (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: and

Comments:

Dispute over adding excessive nicknames to the infobox. User Vintagekits has again reverted as discussion was ongoing on the BLP noticeboard.Off2riorob (talk) 12:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

It is considered vandalism to removed sourced material from a reliable source without concensus. Therefore reverting this vandalism does not fall under 3RR. Finally it was you that removed the sourced information without concensus.--Vintagekits (talk) 12:20, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Anyway, its not within 24 hours and this editor "bullied" other editors to revert the article to "his position".--Vintagekits (talk) 12:24, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

This accusation of bullying is uncivil and uncalled for. Off2riorob (talk) 12:29, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

"uncivil and uncalled" - maybe, but not incorrect.--Vintagekits (talk) 12:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

• Blocked Vintagekits blocked for edit-warring for 1 week. CIreland (talk) 13:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Gamer112 reported by User:Gun Powder Ma (Result: )

Page: Cataphract (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Gamer112 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

• Reason: Disruptive editing, while unwilling to engage in any discussion

Two weeks ago, Gamer112 reverted one of my actions (1st revert) and justified his 2nd revert later by requesting prior discussion ("please refrain from removing large chunks of material without prior discussion"). Fine, I did exactly that by giving my reasons on talk page, but since then Gamer112 has refused to engage in any discussion and simply continues to revert my edits without forwarding any reasons at all:

• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:
• 5th revert:
• 6th revert:

Notably, his pattern of contributions shows him to visiti Misplaced Pages mainly to undo my edits. I notified him of being in danger of an edit war (), but he did not react. Since no-one else takes an interest in the dispute, and since Gamer112 steadfastly declines to talk to me and explain his rationale, I don't know what to do anymore. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 14:22, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I've requested comment by Gamer112. Currently, I am inclined to warn both editors that they will be blocked if they continue the slow-motion edit warring. The last revert was 2 days ago, so no immediate block is required.  Sandstein  11:37, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations on blowing such a trivial issue right out of proportion. To be blunt & efficient; my main gripe with the state of the article (Cataphract) as it is now and Gun Powder Ma's contributions is simply put, his holier-than-thou attitude and complete disregard for the hard work and months of contribution I have made to greatly improve this burgeoning article. Without so much as a peep on the discussion page or even brief blurb about his changes in an edit summary he significantly alters half the article, with an overall poorly referenced, poorly worded and slightly-POV pushing edit:

Fair enough, I assumed good faith and left a friendly invitation to work this issue out through open dialogue on his talk page: He took offence to my reverts (and I use "offence" in the strongest sense possible, as it seems the mere thought of someone reverting his changes seems like a literal slap in the face to him), although I would like to point out, without any prior discussion, any elaboration or significant attempt to try and have full partisan support of other editors on this article such as myself, his contributions were wholly uncourteous and completely disrupted the flow and overall quality of this article. I reverted them a mere three times prior to contacting him directly and instructing him to discuss the issue there within the edit summary.

I fail to see the serious breach in Misplaced Pages guidelines I have allegedly committed. All three reverts were on completely separate days and Gun Powder Ma, whom the burden of proof falls upon here, as he edited the article not I, made no attempt to try and reason the issue out with me, instead just kept on reverting my reverts. Why exactly am I responsible for his lack of communication?

He seems to be under the impression that only HE is allowed to edit and revert articles without prior discussion or notification while other users have to abide by his "unwritten rule" mentality. I really do not see the big issue here. As it stands now, the article includes both of our shared contributions in a relatively ad-hoc manner, but nevetheless readable and conforming to encyclopaedic conventions. I propose it be left this way and both of us barred from editing it until we manage to reach some mutual compromise.

Gun Powder Ma's explanation as to why certain parts of my material are not deemed "fit" to be included within this article basically amounts to a juvenile "because I said so" reasoning with little rational basis behind it: Gamer112(Aus) (talk) 12:02, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I spare myself replying to your rant and expect you at the talk page for providing a rationale to your edits. You should be aware that the only reason why we both are not blocked is because I refrained from another revert even though you confined yourself for two weeks to stubborn reverting without commenting on it. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 14:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Donhend reported by andrewponsford (Result: )

Page: {{ESPN FC}} template missing ID and not present in Wikidata.
User being reported: Template:Donhend

Previous version reverted to:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

I am trying to highlight that there are a number of verifiable errors on ESPNsoccernet with this one author and readers should be aware. Donhend wants to hide this and will not engage in a conversation of any kind to find a resolution. Andrewponsford (talk) 17:18, 8 October 2009 (UTC)andrewponsford

User:89.80.162.186 reported by User:RolandR (Result: 3 days)

Page: Law and Justice (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: 89.80.162.186 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:
• 5th revert:
• 6th revert:
• 7th revert:
• 8th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

• Blocked 3 days by Juliancolton.  Sandstein  11:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

User:66.99.50.71 and User:76.16.133.201 reported by User:Crotchety Old Man (Result: )

Page: Mishawaka, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: 66.99.50.71 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and 76.16.133.201 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: See talk page.

Comments:User is changing IP addresses to avoid violating 3RR. See edit-warring on October 2. Report was filed, but no action taken by admins.

Crotchety Old Man (talk) 19:53, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

User:WikiLubber reported by User:SuperHamster (Result: No vio)

Page: Super_Mario_Bros._(film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: WikiLubber (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:
• 5th revert:
• 6th revert:
• 7th revert:
• 8th revert:
• 9th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: WikiLubber added a message regarding the matter after this report was filed on the talk page of the IP whose edits were being reverted. (no diff provided, as new page was created when message was added)

Page: Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Previous version reverted to:

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:
• 5th revert:
• 6th revert:
• 7th revert:
• 8th revert:
• 9th revert:
• 10th revert:
• 11th revert:
• 12th revert:
• 13th revert:
• 14th revert:
• 15th revert:
• 16th revert:
• 17th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Here and on Peparazzi's user talk page.

Page: Supermarket Sweep (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

See the article's history

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Page: List of Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego? episodes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

See the article's history

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Comments:
WikiLubber has been in numerous edit wars, and has broke the 3RR rule numerous times. The user has also been warned numerous times for taking part in edit wars and breaking the 3RR. The user keeps removing the warnings from their talk page, which confirms they read the rule and understand, and has stated in their edit summary that they "have been in edit wars before", yet continues to edit war. If anything, I believe a block should have been implemented a long time ago.

~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 21:03, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

• No violation. No violation of 3RR at all, and I don't think that removing unsourced information and nonsense from articles, over a long period of time, is in any way disruptive. Quite the opposite, in fact. I am intrigued to know why the reporter does. Black Kite 23:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

The 3RR was violated, for example in the edits of Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel. Just pulling a few differences, 345 and 6. Continuously reverting the same edit over and over again without getting a result doesn't constitute as constructive, does it? ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 23:27, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

User:GVU reported by User:Abecedare (Result: 24hrs)

Page: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Barack Obama (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: GVU (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

1. 12:05, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "")
2. 12:08, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "Norway is not international reaction because it is an award awarded by Norwegian politicians, hence, the opinion of the opposition in Norway is an internal matter")
3. 13:10, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "")
4. 13:26, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "this is sourced below and needs to be mentioned in the lead")
5. 13:53, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "")
6. 14:25, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "pathetic")

—Abecedare (talk) 14:44, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: and

Also see discussion at : User Talk page and article talk page. User is also edit-warring, and has broken 3RR at Barack Obama over the same issue of trying to label the award as "controversial".

1. 12:03, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "/* Nobel Peace Prize */")
2. 13:58, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "/* Nobel Peace Prize */")
3. 14:16, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "/* Nobel Peace Prize */")
4. 14:24, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "/* Nobel Peace Prize */")
5. 14:33, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "NPOV - the section on the Peace Prize is not neutral because it only contains praise and does not mention the widespread and well sourced criticism")
6. 14:54, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "/* Nobel Peace Prize */")

Note that both articles are on article probation, but I am not taking this to AE since it is a straightforward case of edit-warring and user has no prior history on Obama related articles. Abecedare (talk) 14:44, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Comments:

Comment: User refuses to grasp policies such as WP:RS and WP:BLP. Contentious use of templates here, here, and here. DKqwerty (talk) 15:02, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Blocked – for a period of 24 hours --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 15:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

User:86.144.70.15 reported by Verbal (Result: 1 week)

• Three-revert rule violation on

English Defence League (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 86.144.70.15 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 15:24, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Diffs are listed from oldest to newest, dates are in UTC

1. 11:54, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "")
2. 12:59, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "")
3. 13:15, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "Undid revision 318862221 by Verbal (talk) No need for this "right" wing tag, they don't care about small gov")
4. 14:03, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "Undid revision 318867168 by Verbal (talk) Pointless tag, see discussion")
5. 15:16, 9 October 2009 (edit summary: "Undid revision 318876693 by Snowded (talk) It's a pointless tag, it's a pointless tag...")

Continued and continuing removal of "far right" against talk page consensus and reliable sources, and other policies. Some diffs are made up of several edits. —Verbal chat 15:24, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 31 hours AdjustShift (talk) 15:38, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Ongoing problem, user switched IPs: 82.29.1.10 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) Verbal chat 16:27, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
    • Both IPs blocked for 1 week for edit warring and sockpuppetry. AdjustShift (talk) 16:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

• Continuing problem at English Defence League, now with 195.228.173.48 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:18, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

User:PRODUCER reported by User:Aradic-es (Result: )

Notification Page: Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: PRODUCER (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Couple blind reverts:

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:

Añtó| Àntó (talk) 15:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, you BOTH reverted like five times. --King Öomie 15:42, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

his history of reverts blind reverts: Page: Slobodan Praljak (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
-pay attention to category and external links removal.

Summa summarum:he deletes what he dislikes, does not care if he commits some collateral damage.He is an SPA edit warrior.Añtó| Àntó (talk)

I don't see any 'blind' reverts, actually. --King Öomie 16:41, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Article Chris Benoit

It appears that there an edit war by people attempting to violate WP:Undue, and WP:Verifiability. These edits have included making the absurd claim that the information placed is unsourced, unverified, and or speculative despite the use of legitimate sources, and citing to legal findings of fact. It seems the underlying basis behind removing the information, or using weasel words in violation of WP:Avoid weasel words while also making speculation as to what occurred. According to at least one poster rationalization, the possibility that Benoit did not murder his family is .000000001 and despite government findings and media reports, he is not a murderer. It appears edits like these have been occurring for several months. Talk page use has done nothing but make the users more hostile and irrational, including them using a crystal ball argument despite the obvious verifiability of the facts and disinterested third parties stepping in to give their opinion contrary to what they are attempting to do. It seems like it is time for administrators to step in. Principle users involved include user:GaryColemanFan, and user:Gavyn Sykes. Any aid in bringing this edit war to a close will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. CraigMonroe (talk) 17:52, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

User:CraigMonroe reported by User:GaryColemanFan (Result: )

Page: Chris Benoit (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: CraigMonroe (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

• 1st revert:
• 2nd revert:
• 3rd revert:
• 4th revert:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Chris Benoit#Murderer

Comments:

I love your trickery. You get reported, so you report me. One problem, unlike you, I did not revert more than 3 times in 24 hours as required by the rule. In fact, a poster even pointed this out in the history for the Chris Benoit article. Admins, please take notice of this. I am trying to make this place better, and posters like GaryColeman seem intent on trying to change history. I keep asking for evidence that Benoit didn't do it so I can at least understand the dissaproval of the edit but instead get the response that the murder is unverified despite the facts, news reports, legal findings, etc. In fact, the majority of logic agaisnt me seems to be "I don't care what the papers say, I know better." Without question, such edits are clearly questionable. CraigMonroe (talk) 19:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Your reverts were:

18:27, 8 October 2009

11:32, 9 October 2009

15:55, 9 October 2009

17:40, 9 October 2009

Clearly, this was all within a 24 hour period. The article history shows that I did not, in fact, violate 3RR. Please also note the instructions at the top of the page to not continue disputes here. GaryColemanFan (talk) 19:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

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