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Transcluding redux

I had already done the ArticleHistory update, manually. Perhaps you had not noticed this. Cirt (talk) 01:53, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

No, I didn't notice. Thank you. I hope I didn't screw things up! (I just noticed your comment now.) Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 21:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Mysore and Coorg FAC

Your feedback at History of Mysore and Coorg FAC is greatly appreciated. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:40, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Your feedback needed ...

... at Talk:History_of_Mysore_and_Coorg_(1565–1760)#A_social.2C_economic.2C_cultural.2C_administrative.2C_....3F_history. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 01:40, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

All the issues (except additional alt-text that I will be adding in bits and pieces during the day) have now been dealt with. I welcome further comments from you at the FAC review or on the article talk page. Thanks! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:49, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Khrushchev

I think all the content it needs is there now. And it didn't turn out quite as long as I thought. Time to start the polishing process, which I see you've been doing as I've gone along. I think it turned out quite well.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Looks like a very good job. You handled certain issues very well, in my opinion. And I think your writing style has improved, just little glimmers of the "old style" with the repetition of "the boy", for example! Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 21:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I learn, I learn. Thanks for the praise.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:33, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

You have dealt with a complex and possibly argumentative issue excellently. You must have cut your teeth on Richard Nixon and now you can do anything! What about Mao next? Seems like he is a cipher. —mattisse (Talk) 21:36, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Ummm, Neville Chamberlain?--Wehwalt (talk) 21:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, why him? What is with you and your selection of subjects? —mattisse (Talk) 21:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I picked up a book on him in a bookshop in the UK. I think I kinda like the underdog. Chamberlain certainly qualifies in that regard.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:53, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

He seems boring. I won't be buying any books on him. (I think you are a politician.) —mattisse (Talk) 21:56, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

He is boring, I'm afraid. However, it would be a useful article to have move to FA, and it is a failed FAC back way back when (no connection with me), so it would be good for the encyclopedia. I'm not 100 percent sure yet, though if I am going to do it, though I've bought Self's recent bio of him as well.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Does he at least have some scandal or intrigue about him? A bad childhood? Unfortunate marriage. Something? (Are you going to be an apologist for his tactics?) —mattisse (Talk) 22:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

No. I will let his actions speak for themselves, without any POV, as usual. Let others judge. I will mention that his policy was popular at the time, but he was the leader, not the follower. No scandal. He is a bit of a cipher as well. Had a reasonably happy marriage, though rather late. His father was rather neglectful of him, but I don't think it was a terrible childhood by anyone's standards. Rather intolerant of those who did not agree with him.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:32, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you think we need to tell the reader how many months the Battle of Stalingrad was, in the lede yet? Or can you come up with a better way of putting it?--Wehwalt (talk) 18:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Too hard to come up with months accurately, and is there a reason to? I like the "bloody" but I wonder why you do not name the war. —mattisse (Talk) 18:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

No reason to. Someone put in a comment, "how many months?" Thought it was you. Name the war? Since this article is supposed to be a little Russo centric, I called it the Great Patriotic War whereever I could.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:28, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Is it OK now? —mattisse (Talk) 19:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm fine with it. It is what it is. Horrifying casualty count.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:41, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Margaret Harshaw

On 2 October, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Margaret Harshaw, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Help:Reviewing Article

Dear Mattisse, I found that you are an experienced and efficient user in Misplaced Pages. Could you please help me by reviewing my nominated article Dhaka Residential Model College ?. I have nominated the article for WP:GA status. If you think that the article is eligible enough for the WP:Good article status then please give it PASS. Thanks, Tanweer Morshed (talk) 16:57, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry but I am not doing GA reviews at the present time. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 21:44, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Your note

Thank you. Not a pleasant thing, but I'm hoping something constructive will emerge from it. SlimVirgin 02:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Turpan - just so you know

Alefbe doesn't like me because I blocked him for edit warring several weeks ago and, even though other administrators upheld the block, apparently I am the evil admin who's out to get him. (See discussion here.) So that's why he's going out of his way to make a big deal out of my edits here. rʨanaɢ /_contribs 21:39, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Also: given that I posted a rationale for this naming over 30 minutes ago and Alefbe has made no effort to respond to it, but has just reiterated over and over again that he thinks it was mean of me to move it, I will assume that 1) he has nothing constructive left to say and thus agrees with my arguments; and 2) he is more interested in trying to get me in 'trouble' than in the article itself. rʨanaɢ /_contribs 21:46, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

OK. I was just asking. I have written articles referring to the place, but I honestly cannot remember the spelling I used. I would have to look in the reference books I used, which I don't feel like doing at the moment. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 22:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

For example, I was the original author of Emin Minaret. My sources spelled it "Turfan" Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 22:27, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

The use of "Turfan" is generally a result of influence from old sources—it would be roughly analogous to calling Xinjiang "Sinkiang", Nanjing "Nanking", etc. Of course, these Wade-Giles names are still used sometimes (indeed, in some places they're preferred--Beijing was still called Peking not too long ago, and the Yangtze River was never changed over to the pinyin spelling "Yangzi River"), but are generally not standard anymore.

For a bit of background...the /f/ sound is rare in Uyghur (mostly just present in borrowed words, like Kalifuniya--California) and Uyghur speakers often mix it up with /p/...for instance, many say "propessor" instead of "professor". I don't know the etymology of "Turpan", but the word "Turfan" probably comes from English re-translation of the Chinese name (the Chinese language takes great liberties in adapting foreign words to its strict sound system, so the Uyghur name "Turpan" was changed to "Tulufan" when it was brought into Chinese... since Western writers and missionaries had greater contact with Chinese than Uyghurs, it is likely that they back-translated Tulufan into Turfan). rʨanaɢ /_contribs 00:41, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Archuleta v. Hedrick

On October 5, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Archuleta v. Hedrick, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congrats. I'm happy to see good content being created. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:39, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! —mattisse (Talk) 22:14, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Request

(moved remarks placed here to the appropriate monitoring page)

Please do not carry on conversations with other users on this talk page. Thank you. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 13:41, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I have removed my comments from "the page" Mattisse place them, per the reasons outlined here . Giano (talk) 18:43, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Ignore the provocation, Mattisse. --Philcha (talk) 19:42, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, ignore it. John Carter (talk) 20:14, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

If it is provocation you want, then look to your charge. Either control her or admit defeat. Quite frankly, I care not which, just stop her trolling, or let he meet her inevitable wiki-end - it matters not. OK? Giano (talk) 20:30, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Copyediting

Thanks for the copyediting, Matisse; it's much appreciated. Here I was trying to say "eight or nine" with a dash because I had another "or" later in the sentence. Have any ideas on how to make it work? :-) —Ed (talk • contribs) 14:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I am not very confident copy editing the article, not being familiar with the subject matter at all. MoS has strict rules regarding hyphens, dashes etc., but if I think about them too much I get mixed up. You should format it however you prefer over any changes I make. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 14:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Be confident; I'm looking over the copyedits anyway to be sure. ;-) In that, it now says " ship with an eight-nine, 16-inch main battery, or rather one akin to "A", "B" or "C"" when we need it to say " ship with an eight or nine, 16-inch main battery, or rather one akin to "A", "B" or "C". The problem is that there are two "or"s, and I can't come up with a way to phrase it... —Ed (talk • contribs) 14:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I did what I could but the article is over my head. I no longer copy edit articles, so I have forgotten many of the rules. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 17:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

It's alright; your copyedits were greatly appreciated, regardless of how little you remember. :-) Besides, I'm sure that if you missed anything the FAC people will catch it. ;-) Thanks again and cheers, —Ed (talk • contribs) 23:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. The article is very well written and I was impressed. I am unsure about the hyphen/endash situation, as I said. Good luck! Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 23:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

No, thanks for your comments and edits to the article! I'll figure out the endash/hyphen crap when I go to FAC...so confusing. :-) —Ed (talk • contribs) 23:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Voting System FAR

I have nominated Voting system for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Feinoha 21:26, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky, Inc. v. Williams

On October 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky, Inc. v. Williams, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (see the pageview stats) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Swedish language refs

You had a go at trying to identify reference improvements for Swedish language recently, but I think your methods were somewhat blunt. I'm not against bolstering the referencing overall, but I think templates are really not the best way to deal with this. I believe it would be much better if you brought up in detail on the talkpage what you'd like to see improved.

Peter 21:16, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

OK. Have had horrible success in the past bringing up such on article talk pages, so I think I will skip it. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 21:32, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure you wouldn't reconsider? I don't know what experiences you've had here, but I've always preferred proper discussion over anonymous and difficult-to-interpret template insertion. Dialogue is so much better to understand exactly what is or isn't required.

Peter 07:22, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks but no. When an article is an FA, bringing up criticism on the talk page often brings attack and abuse. They are not like regular article talk pages when constructive suggestions are taken seriously. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 11:52, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Goya

Mattisse I have an FAC I would very much like you to look at. A careful, detailed review from you would be appreciated. I would relish the challenge of going up against your scalpels, I think it would lead to a much improved artice. Ceoil (talk) 13:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I would be happy to go through it, though having no expert knowledge on Goya. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 14:55, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

"Commenting" class

(moved to monitoring page User:Mattisse/Monitoring#.22Commenting.22_class. This page is not for comments to my mentors/advisors. It is not a place to discuss me in the third person. Please supply specific diffs for all complaints. Per the arbitration decision, monitoring should concentrate recent behavior and not rehash old incidents. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 17:48, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Raven Ridge

On October 13, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Raven Ridge, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

{{User0|Giants27 15:28, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

John Carter & Mattisse's Mentors.

Seeing as you wish to discuss me on this page, you can have the reply on this page. John Carter, would you please stop referring to me in this debate concerning your protegee. I avoid her as often as possible and have no wish to associate with the like of you either. That you can say "I agree people like Giano and others are treated with probably unearned kid gloves." about an editor who is no part of this matter or debate shows you are unfit to be either a mentor or an Admin. Mattisse and her "mentors" are becoming increasingly concerning. I suggest you concentrate your efforts on your protege and leave the rest of us out of these all too frequent skirmishes that she causes..