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#'''Oppose'''. I have on several occasions seen Locke promote bureaucratic means over commonsensical ones, or suggest polling or strict vote counting over consensual discussion. He seems to not quite understand the difference between a reasonable guideline and instruction creep. Hence, I do not trust his judgment. ]]] 11:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC) | #'''Oppose'''. I have on several occasions seen Locke promote bureaucratic means over commonsensical ones, or suggest polling or strict vote counting over consensual discussion. He seems to not quite understand the difference between a reasonable guideline and instruction creep. Hence, I do not trust his judgment. ]]] 11:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC) | ||
#*For example, he recently said "I have used up my three reverts for the day", implying he doesn't understand the spirit of the 3RR so sticks to the letter instead. ]]] 12:34, 30 December 2005 (UTC) | #*For example, he recently said "I have used up my three reverts for the day", implying he doesn't understand the spirit of the 3RR so sticks to the letter instead. ]]] 12:34, 30 December 2005 (UTC) | ||
#**Respectfully, I must disagree with your reasoinning based on on the 3RR. Its similar to counting to ten. Doing it to the letter is usually a good idea!--] 20:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
#'''Oppose''' due to his conduct in relation to ]. I fully accept that Andy Mabbett is a very difficult user to deal with but he has made useful contributions. For his part, Locke Cole took (and takes) an extremely harsh view which simply stirs Andy up even more. This gives me cause to think that he may over-react if given admin powers of block and protect. ] | ] 12:02, 30 December 2005 (UTC) | #'''Oppose''' due to his conduct in relation to ]. I fully accept that Andy Mabbett is a very difficult user to deal with but he has made useful contributions. For his part, Locke Cole took (and takes) an extremely harsh view which simply stirs Andy up even more. This gives me cause to think that he may over-react if given admin powers of block and protect. ] | ] 12:02, 30 December 2005 (UTC) | ||
#'''Oppose'''. I don't think that he is ready to be an admin. ]] 12:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC) | #'''Oppose'''. I don't think that he is ready to be an admin. ]] 12:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC) |
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Locke Cole
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Locke Cole (talk · contribs) – Locke Cole has deserved this for awhile, he's a regular where you'll find policies, guidelines, or anybody trying to be incivil to others. In addition to this he's an expert programmer(at least according to his userboxes -- "will someone please think of the Robots"?), has over 3,000 edits, and I can unequivocably say that he is far more reliable than any cabal, real or imagined. karmafist 00:17, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I humbly accept. —Locke Cole • t • c 01:53, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Support
- Muahaha!!! --King of All the Franks 00:17, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- The second time I forgot to be first vote today support karmafist 01:41, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Strong Support --Jaranda 01:58, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Strong support NSLE (T+C+CVU) 02:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support after scanning your edits, you appear to be deserving a promotion.--MONGO 02:13, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support, looks good. —Kirill Lokshin 02:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support. Appears to be sane, and active in policy matters. (A rare combo?) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:31, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support, I trust Karmafist's judgement. Jobe6 02:33, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support. I've read some of the things he's had to say at WP:RfAr and WP:AN/I. He looks like he knows policies well and can be trusted with admin tools. --Idont Havaname 03:20, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support --Terence Ong 04:28, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support. Seen a lot of him lately and have liked what I saw. Christopher Parham (talk) 05:58, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support. Seems to make good contributions, unlikely to abuse admin tools, no big deal anyway. Nightstallion (?) 07:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support Seen him around, and liked what I've seen. Good editor. Banes 08:57, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support Also seen him around, and liked what I've seen. Good editor, and a polite one at that. Surprisingly rare. Slightly disagree with him on the Stub Sorting issue mentioned below but otherwise think he as a potentially great admin. If anything the wiki philossphy is too strong in him for seeing the need for slight control of the structural aspects of stub and categories. Anyhow - I have seen enough to know he is fair and will not abuse the influence or tools. Kevinalewis : please contact me on my Talk Page : 09:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support. Phaedriel 09:26, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support.--Sean|Black 10:12, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support Level-headed guy, I expect him to use the buttons only with much consideration. --Ryan Delaney 10:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support
percontra Andy Mabbett. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 12:57, Dec. 30, 2005- You are mistaken. Andy Mabbett 14:19, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Ouch. I consider that a personal attack. Don't edit my vote either. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 14:23, Dec. 30, 2005
- It's not a personal attack; and you are not voting per me; you are voting contra to me. Andy Mabbett 17:56, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Don't edit others' signed comments. It is exceedingly obnoxious, and will earn you a block if you keep it up. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 18:02, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Duly noted. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 18:11, Dec. 30, 2005
- It's not a personal attack; and you are not voting per me; you are voting contra to me. Andy Mabbett 17:56, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Ouch. I consider that a personal attack. Don't edit my vote either. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 14:23, Dec. 30, 2005
- You are mistaken. Andy Mabbett 14:19, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support I'd rather have an admin who follows all rules than one who ignores all rules. This candidate seems unlikely to abuse admin tools. - Haukur 15:22, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support --Phroziac . o º 16:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support – I've seen much more good come from him than anything else. – ClockworkSoul 17:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support Does anyone really beleive he'll abuse his privileges? I don't. Convince me.Gator (talk) 19:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Oppose
- Andy Mabbett 00:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Are you opposing on the count that Karmafist is the nominator? NSLE (T+C+CVU) 02:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- On what grounds are you opposing? Linuxbeak (drop me a line) 02:13, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- WP:AGF, guys. One more oppose isn't the end of the world, and the closing bureaucrat can evaluate votes as (s)he sees fit anyway. -- SCZenz 02:52, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- SCZenz, you've likely never heard of Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing then. AGF isn't in POTW's nature. karmafist 03:20, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- NSLE, note that Andy did not oppose the other candidate Karmafist nominated today. Karmafist, enough already. Leave the guy alone... like that RFAr you're quoting directed you to do. He actually is allowed to vote without getting insulted for it. --CBD ☎ 03:45, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Cease making personal attacks, Karmafist Andy Mabbett 10:32, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I think the problem is that Pigsonthewing voted on this before it was even placed on the main RFA page, or before I had accepted it. —Locke Cole • t • c 03:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Your comment exemplifies why you are not suitable for the power and responsibilities of adminship. Kindly point out where either is required. Andy Mabbett 10:32, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Question unaswered. And where are the complaints about King of All the Franks, who voted before I did? Andy Mabbett 18:05, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Your comment exemplifies why you are not suitable for the power and responsibilities of adminship. Kindly point out where either is required. Andy Mabbett 10:32, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I think the problem is that Pigsonthewing voted on this before it was even placed on the main RFA page, or before I had accepted it. —Locke Cole • t • c 03:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Along with helping SCZenz realize that AGF doesn't apply here, CBD. Also, you might realize that my comment was directed at SCZenz, not POTW; POTW can Boothy vote away all he wants, the Bureaucrats are likely not going to count it without a reason. karmafist 04:02, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- SCZenz, you've likely never heard of Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing then. AGF isn't in POTW's nature. karmafist 03:20, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- WP:AGF, guys. One more oppose isn't the end of the world, and the closing bureaucrat can evaluate votes as (s)he sees fit anyway. -- SCZenz 02:52, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose I just don't feel he's ready. Sorry. Ëvilphoenix 02:43, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Oppose This is one of those oppose votes that I hate casting, because Mr. Cole is a very nice fellow. I look forward to supporting him later (if that is even necessary.) Like EP, I just think he needs a tad more experience. Xoloz 05:46, 30 December 2005 (UTC)Vote withdrawn. No vote from me. Xoloz 17:39, 30 December 2005 (UTC)Oppose Leaves offensive comments, not a professional in my books, sorry.-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.142.109.200 (talk • contribs)- This anon IP left the following nastygram on Locke Cole's talk page one minute later: -- Curps 09:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. I have on several occasions seen Locke promote bureaucratic means over commonsensical ones, or suggest polling or strict vote counting over consensual discussion. He seems to not quite understand the difference between a reasonable guideline and instruction creep. Hence, I do not trust his judgment. Radiant_>|< 11:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- For example, he recently said "I have used up my three reverts for the day", implying he doesn't understand the spirit of the 3RR so sticks to the letter instead. Radiant_>|< 12:34, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Respectfully, I must disagree with your reasoinning based on on the 3RR. Its similar to counting to ten. Doing it to the letter is usually a good idea!--Tznkai 20:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- For example, he recently said "I have used up my three reverts for the day", implying he doesn't understand the spirit of the 3RR so sticks to the letter instead. Radiant_>|< 12:34, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose due to his conduct in relation to Pigsonthewing. I fully accept that Andy Mabbett is a very difficult user to deal with but he has made useful contributions. For his part, Locke Cole took (and takes) an extremely harsh view which simply stirs Andy up even more. This gives me cause to think that he may over-react if given admin powers of block and protect. David | Talk 12:02, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. I don't think that he is ready to be an admin. 12:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose based on attitudes expressed on user page, specifically attitudes toward fair use (which is wholly unacceptable) and toward developers. Kelly Martin (talk) 17:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC) (note: Locke Cole has removed the comments upon which my vote is based. My vote remains unchanged. Kelly Martin (talk) 17:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. Per Kelly Martin and Radiant. I think a few more months of experience would make him a great candidate. Carbonite | Talk 17:05, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose, per User:Radiant! and User:Kelly Martin. Jkelly 17:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose, worried about his attitude to copyright issues and consensus over voting. --Ngb 17:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose per User:Radiant! and User:Kelly Martin. Although I personally rather like the chap, I don't feel he has enough of a grip on how things are done around here. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 17:18, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose deleted his name and several others from my RFAr with the edit summary "kitchen sink". freestylefrappe 18:24, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Neutral
- Neutral. I cannot bring myself to vote for someone who has been so vociferously opposed to a project which has effectively sorted and organised a previously chaotic and virtually unusable part of Misplaced Pages (i.e., WikiProject Stub sorting, e.g., here). Despite this, I believe that in other ways Locke has the best interests of Misplaced Pages at heart, even if he has a blind spot in that one area, and as such I won't oppose. Grutness...wha? 03:39, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks Grutness, and for what it's worth, I fully appreciate the efforts you guys engage in, I just disagree with one or two procedures currently used. Please don't ever think that I have it out for the whole project. =) —Locke Cole • t • c 03:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- fair enough. I think I'll stay sitting on the fence on this one though :) - AFAIK "neutral" votes don't affect the tally when it comes to deciding the outcome of adminship votes anyway. Grutness...wha? 04:53, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks Grutness, and for what it's worth, I fully appreciate the efforts you guys engage in, I just disagree with one or two procedures currently used. Please don't ever think that I have it out for the whole project. =) —Locke Cole • t • c 03:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- WhiteNight 07:22, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- 'Neutral leaning to support There seems to be a small amount of evidence towards the slim possibility of this candidate abUsing his admin tools. However nothing substantial. Also, adminship is meant to be no big deal. However, due to his disputes with some rather volatile users I am unsure if I can fully support this candidate due to the possibility to settle scores (See ], oppose) of abuse and the impracticallity of determining "who is right"; although I could by no means oppose his nomination. There is also the added concern of little experience; although he has many edits. --Chazz88 12:05, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutral Not very long ago I told Locke Cole that I'd oppose if he ran for adminship. I don't agree with the 'needs more experience' votes... Locke Cole knows his way around and has been involved in good ways with alot of things. My concern is with angry reactions, but Locke Cole has shown more restraint in that regard lately and thus I'm neutral for now. --CBD ☎ 12:43, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Neutral leaning towards oppose for the time being. I would like to hear a definitive answer on the concerns a number of editors have with your supposed opinions on fair-use and cabalism--Tznkai 18:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- You can see Kelly Martin's link to my original views. I've updated my userpage to more accurately reflect how I really feel though. In any event, if given admin tools, I would uphold Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines, not my own agenda. —Locke Cole • t • c 18:21, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I did see those, and wanted give you the opportunity to say it in your own words here. So let me try again: Do you believe there is signifcant cabalism on wikipedia, and how stringent should we be about fair-use and copyright infringement?--Tznkai 19:33, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- No, there is no cabal. I believe we should have zero-tolerance on copyright infringement, it's much to risky for Misplaced Pages. I believe we're about right on fair-use: we require sources, we try to limit usage, and we actively remove fair-use images that aren't linked to articles. My only complaint regarding fair-use is the matter of fair-use images in templates; I think that needs loosening. Otherwise, I have no problem with fair-use or copyright on Misplaced Pages and fully support the policies/guidelines in place. —Locke Cole • t • c 19:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I did see those, and wanted give you the opportunity to say it in your own words here. So let me try again: Do you believe there is signifcant cabalism on wikipedia, and how stringent should we be about fair-use and copyright infringement?--Tznkai 19:33, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- You can see Kelly Martin's link to my original views. I've updated my userpage to more accurately reflect how I really feel though. In any event, if given admin tools, I would uphold Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines, not my own agenda. —Locke Cole • t • c 18:21, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Comments
- I'd like if someone could have me a resumé of the users position about copyright which is termed as unacceptable. Thanks. Fad (ix) 19:55, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Questions for the candidate
A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
- 1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? Please check out Category:Misplaced Pages backlog, and read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.
- 2. Of your articles or contributions to Misplaced Pages, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
- A. Actually, my biggest contributions seem to be to things outside article-space lately. =) I've participated in a few WP:RFAr's, and I seem to do a lot of discussion in the project namespace. My contributions in article space tend to be towards videogames and technology articles. I've created and helped enhance a few templates for various videogame series (such as Template:Street Fighter series), and I believe my contributions will continue along those lines for now.
- 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
- A. I've had conflicts with one or two users in my time here, but I've always tried to use the available dispute resolution procedures. I'll confess to having lost my cool on things in the past, but after seeing how ineffective it is to do so, I'm convinced I wouldn't put myself (or others) through that again. Better to work things out via consensus, or, as I mentioned, the available dispute resolution procedures.