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Akmal Shaikh...

Apologies for my premature edit on Akmal Shaikh's death. It was made in good faith. As soon as I read the news that Akmal's 11th hour appeal for clemency was rejected, I knew he was going to die. As you probably already know, the Chinese are rather punctual about these kinds of things. I therefore updated the Akmal article about 10 minutes past his scheduled execution time, based on the (correct) assumption that he was already dead, and indeed he was. MythNReality (talk) 00:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

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Archived note

Hi Ryan -- it looks like the bot archived this note before you saw it, probably due to the holidays. Would you please take a look? Thanks. --Jack-A-Roe (talk) 04:24, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

GoRight & Abd again

Hello. Have you seen this contribution by GoRight Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Motion_to_add_Abd_as_a_party_to_this_case? Happy New Year. Mathsci (talk) 08:15, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

And also which is directly related. Dougweller (talk) 16:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Cheers guys for pointing me in the right direction - hopefully all should be sorted now. Happy new year to the both of you. Ryan Postlethwaite 18:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Also which has not been addressed William M. Connolley (talk) 22:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Noticed this, so perhaps, Ryan, you'd be interested in Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification#Request_for_clarification:_Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Abd-William_M._Connolley. Because of WMC's dedicated effort, exemplified above, to keep the pot stirred, I did decide to go ahead and ask ArbComm for clarification. I hope that simplifies things. Thanks. --Abd (talk) 01:11, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Ping William M. Connolley (talk) 18:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

To be fair William, when you mention someone by name, it's only fair that they have a right to respond - you inherently make Abd part of the dispute meaning he's free to comment. I think the best thing to do for now is to ignore Abd (sorry Abd, but that's really how I feel) - if he wishes to go off on his long rants then let him do so without responding. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:50, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

This is about implementing arbcomm sanctions. You're refusing to; I'm not surprised; it always goes thus William M. Connolley (talk) 20:20, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Piotrus's user page

Hi, Ryan. I commented on his talk page and have offered to maintain his user page while he's, uh, not doing so. The positioned stuff you cut has been restored and it seems to me that you were encountering an issue at lower screen resolutions that resulted in some of the UI being obscured. I don't see that as much of a big deal as there are many ways to drive the UI, it's *his* page, and it is not happening for most users. So, I'd like to tidy his page up for him and he's given me and others free-reign. Please let me know what you'd like to see here. Thanks, Jack Merridew 19:31, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

By all means edit his userpage, but please keep the UI clear. I'm on a factory setting mac with firefox so I presume others have the problem as well. I'll keep checking back, but I'll assume you'll keep the UI clear. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I saw the obscuring issue and have just taken a first stab at fixing it. It did not occur on higher resolutions; you just outted yourself as on a 13" model ;) I'm mostly driving a Mac these days and only use the non-Firefox browsers for testing. Piotrus's page is rather full of 'stuff' and I initially focused on clearing the nits. I'm going to leave him a note and will be looking at the other fixed message that was on his talk page and behind the other on his user page. Cheers, Jack Merridew 23:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Hmmm, nice pic. Wonder who uploaded that one. JohnWBarber (talk) 01:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

The old year as an old Roué and the new year as his protegée. That's rather wonderful. Proof of life before Disney! --TS 01:14, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Climate change

I forked the discussion to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Climate Change as I think it will run for a while. I agree with your proposal. I have suggested that we try it for a while and then review to see if arbitration is required. A group of neutral admins or long-standing editors can do the review and decide who is and is not a party, if the need arises. Your thoughts on that? Guy (Help!) 14:42, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely Guy. I think it's definitely worth a shot - it's clear the second wording has consensus and I think a month trial, with a review at the end of it (the review can simply be done on AN with neutral administrators weighing in). I'll write it up on AN to formalise things and see what others think. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I just wanted to say that your efforts in putting forward this proposal are very much appreciated. I'm sure it will make a big (positive!) difference to this topic area. -- ChrisO (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

By the way, I should add that I think you should define the scope as "articles relating to climate change and global warming, broadly defined", as it seems from the comments that there may be wriggle room if you just confine it to climate change (apparently the two topics are parallel, not subsidiary). -- ChrisO (talk) 22:54, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Climate change probation

While I appreciate your efforts with regard to the controversial global warming pages, given the size of the active community on the global warming articles and the worldwide holiday just past, I believe it is premature to says your proposal has the support of the community. On the contrary, I saw objections raised by Sphilbrick, A Quest for Knwoledge, and others that do not appear to have been addressed in the subsequent discussion. I myself only learned of your proposal minutes before you declared it enacted, and was drafting my concerns. Meanwhile there are more than 90 editors with 10+ edits since December 1 in, for example, the Talk:Climatic Research Unit e-mail hacking incident page. How many of them weighed in on your proposal? There is definitely an ongoing content debate with regard to what many of the global warming articles should contain, and I can not help but notice that support for your proposal comes conspicuously and vocally from one side of that debate. I'd appreciate your thoughts on this, when you have a moment. Thanks! --DGaw (talk) 02:12, 2 January 2010 (UTC) (Refactored into own section to allow direct referenced. --DGaw (talk) 16:36, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Objection

I object to you being the one to close any discussion regarding your own proposal. I also object to your attempting to impose probation on CC articles with out adequate community discussion (i.e. less that 48 hours and over a holiday and without any suitable advertisement that such a discussion was on-going). I hereby request that you reverse any attempts to implement these sanctions until such time as these concerns can be properly addressed. I have already raised this same objection here. --GoRight (talk) 07:39, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

There was a lot of discussion on the matter and what was clear coming out of it was that basically everybody who was neutral and had no previous involvement in the dispute was extremely supportive. The (few) objections we did have came from people who were directly involved in the dispute which clearly means their views are given a lot less weight - at the end of the day, these are the kind of people who will end up sanctioned by the probation. I have therefore read your objection, but find it to be completely unwarranted. Ryan Postlethwaite 09:20, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't do barnstars

So have a nice bit of Kendal Mint Cake. You got us to the summit, so I reckon we'll all need some energy to get us back down into the valleys of normal editing on a controversial issue. Well done. Enjoy the view. --TS 01:02, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's all downhill from here. Where's that big dog with my brandy? -- JohnWBarber (talk) 01:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Seconded. I am sure you did not actually see this through as a personal favor to me, but if you would like my help with anything please do not hesitate to ask. - 2/0 (cont.) 02:21, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks guys - I think it was clear that we needed some form of probation on the article, but I figured it would be best to get to that point without the need for months of mud slinging at arbitration - that rarely solves things. Things seem to be working well now, hopefully they will continue to do so over the next month. Thanks for the Mint Cake Tony - one of my favourites! ;-) Ryan Postlethwaite 09:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't do the barnstar thing either, but if I did you'd get the shiniest one. Someday a clever person will figure out how to send a pint through the interweb. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 18:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration Request Notification

You are involved in a recently-filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Climate Change Probation and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Requesting Arbitration;
• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration guide.

Thanks, --GoRight (talk) 09:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Congrats, Ryan, you must be doing something right. ++Lar: t/c 16:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Disabling DynamicDates

Ryan,

Greetings and Happy New Year! Now that the work on delinking full-linked dates is complete, would you be the right person to ask to actually go ahead with switching off DynamicDates? Ohconfucius 10:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, I did try on bugzilla and I got the impression they were going to flick the switch at some point. I'll have a look later tonight and maybe offer a reply on the bug. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:43, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Requesting self-rv

Ryan, your last sentence here seems unwise. Certain people are looking for any excuse to accuse admins and others of partiality, so best to leave this off. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 19:39, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, you make a valid point - I wasn't aiming it at anyone in particular, it was merely a general statement that only involved people seem to be arguing against it. Every neutral person seems for it. That said, I respect what you're saying so I've removed it. Thanks for the note, Ryan Postlethwaite 19:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Mass assumption

You reported, I blocked, they appealed - appeal was reverted for NPA considerations. I have undone the revert, since it does constitute their block appeal, but in doing so made an assumption on your part. I trust that you are down (or whatever you youngsters are saying these days) with my actions? LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:30, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I've got to say, it made me chuckle some what after just reading it! I'm fine with the revert - let's see how far the unblock request gets him! (and thanks for the block by the way, I'd probably have blocked myself earlier on had I not just reverted him). Happy new year by the way. Ryan Postlethwaite 20:38, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: User:JehnCD

Re your message: That's fine. I was going to reset it myself, but I was busy cleaning up the mess. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)