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Dear Misplaced Pages managers

Dear Misplaced Pages managers,

Some person named The Tom keeps erasing my post. If he is doing this because he has a political agenda, that's so wrong.

I have been posting on the BC STV referendum, specifically the gag law, section.29A@B. The referendum gag law is real and can be validated at BC elections webpage. Deserves mention in Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages is on the side of freedom, and therefore the gag law deserves mention.

Thank you, no sure why The Tom keeps erasing my stuff. He should have editted it, but left mention of the gag law. No far to hide this.

Thank you

Please note that there are no 'wikipedia managers'. You are just as important a member of the community as any other. Nobody has more 'rights' than anyone else. :-) In future, to discuss why someone is 'erasing your stuff', simply ask them, as described below.  Chzz  ►  22:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

April 2009

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page BC-STV has been reverted.

Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove unwanted links and spam from Misplaced Pages. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Misplaced Pages. The external links I reverted were matching the following regex rule(s): \bblog(?:cu|fa|harbor|mybrain|post|savy|spot|townhall)?\.com\b (links: http://haidachieftain.blogspot.com/2009/03/british-columibas-credit-rating-down.html). If the external link you inserted or changed was to a blog, forum, free web hosting service, or similar site, then please check the information on the external site thoroughly. Note that such sites should probably not be linked to if they contain information that is in violation of the creator's copyright (see Linking to copyrighted works), or they are not written by a recognised, reliable source. Linking to sites that you are involved with is also strongly discouraged (see conflict of interest).

If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Misplaced Pages's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 16:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Helpme

{{helpme}} Some person named The Tom keeps erasing mention of the STV gag law. The STV ban is a real fact, and therefore deserves mention. Misplaced Pages should be proud to protect freedom of speech rights; Misplaced Pages should loving championing this.

I am sorry I included my blog, I took this out. Still some mention of the gag law should been left on Wiki. Why is The Tom trying to censor this censorship law?

Two questions;

1. What article are you talking about? now answered myself, see below  Chzz  ►  22:32, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

2. Do you have a reliable, verifiable reference for the information?

Answer these and I'll reply further.  Chzz  ►  22:22, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I now see that you must be referring to BC-STV and specifically this reversion.

The first part of your edit did not cite any sources. Absolutely all information on Misplaced Pages should cite a reliable source - in this case, perhaps a mainstream newspaper covering the facts. I'll add some help with how to make such references below.

The second part of your edit - the 'comment' to the other author - was not an appropriate thing to add to the article. Comments like that should go on the other users talk page, which is User talk:The Tom. It would be perfectly fine for you to go there, create a new section, and politely ask the user to explain why they undid your edits.

I hope this answers your question; if you need further help, you could chat to us live, or leave another helpme. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  22:32, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Sections

I have just split your talk page into sections, to make it easier to read. I did this by adding headings, such as == Helpme ==. In future, you'll find it's best to create a new section on your own talk, or that of others, to start discussions.

See WP:TALKPAGE for more info,

I hope this helps,  Chzz  ►  22:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for helping on this. Sorry for mentioning The Tom, will not do that again. New to wiki. Sorry there is no newspaper story mentioning the gag law -- there is a newspaper monopoly in BC and they have not mentioned it. The stv gag law can be verified by visiting BC Election's webpage, goto legislation section, for the enactments. The gag law is a real law. Back tommorrow. Thank you again your response.

No problems, glad I could help. Unfortunately, if it's not hit any big papers, we can't have it on Misplaced Pages; it would be considered original research. Hope you understand; all of these policies were made by people like you and I, through discussion. I won't be monitoring this page, so if you need further help, use the techniques mentioned above. If you want to contact me, you can always leave a message on my own talk page.

Quick note - please remember to always 'sign' your comments, by ending them with ~~~~. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  00:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

{{help me}} Dear Wiki Gods,

Thank you for considering the STV referendum gag law fact, for the STV~BC Misplaced Pages page. Unfortunately, British Columbia has a newspaper monopoly, this is prime example of how democracy suffers. Not sure how this happened, makes it that much more important then to post on Misplaced Pages. Thank you Misplaced Pages for being there. Two issues: it is a real fact; and is not original research.

Case for posting fact on Misplaced Pages: (1)The STV referendum gag law starting date of Feb,1/09 has made the newspaper. At first, the Gag law had it that even candidates could not combine STV and election advertising. Article concerns an aspect of the STV gag law and how candidates not able to combine STV/election advertising, mentions Feb 1 starting date. Note, candidates allowed to combine the two issues now, but the rest of us still can not. canada.com; in newspapers select Times Colonist; search STV; article --Greens call for change to STV referendum rules, Dec8/08, mentions time limit

(2)STV regulations published in the Gazette. The BC Regulations Act S. 5 mandates that enactments must be published in the Gazette. It is argued that once a regulation is gazetted, no longer original research. Just has to be. it's the law period! Looks like Government of British Columbia Publications internet access is paid/restricted access.

(3)STV Gag law available on the BC elections web page. Gag law part of the Electoral Reform Referendum 2009 Act Regulations. Time limit in regulation definitions; and ban is Section 29a&b. www.Elections.BC.ca; look in resource center, then goto legislation section.

(4)Verbal confirmation. Phone BC elections directly 1 800 661 8683. BC election officials will confirm the referendum gag law is real, and what it means. This is a different Act then the BC election gag law that was struck down by the BC Supreme Court. Please phone, it's free. Pacific time.

Wiki STV~BC fact sought. Titled: “STV referendum gag law. The laws governing STV advertising have changed from the last 2005 referendum, now no longer included as election advertisng; STV now banned from election advertising. The BC Electoral Reform Referendum 2009 Act Regulation Section.29.4 (STV gag law) Referendum advertising must not, directly or indirectly, (a) promote or oppose a registered political party or the election of a candidate, or (b) form part of election advertising. Section.1 definition -- "referendum campaign period" means, in relation to the referendum, the period beginning on February 1, 2009 and ending at the close of general voting for the referendum.”

This is a defining moment for British Columbia and Canada. Giant step forward in Canadian democracy. Merits of STV: makes the system more honest; people vote for who they want, not for who they don't want; no longer will politics be dominated by the two main BC parties -- independent voices have a chance now to be elected. Misplaced Pages is a hero of free speech; and this is such a time, to be there for freedom. Canada is in your debt Chzz. This is very proud moment in Misplaced Pages history.

Knock on wood, Haida chieftain

Making your case for the inclusion of a certain piece of information in a particular article should be made on that article's talk page. I think you want to make that argument here. That way you are more likely to get input and help from others who are interested and knowledgeable on the topic. -- Mufka 15:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

New to wiki. Will do that. Cool. Thank you Mufka. Cheers Haida chieftain.

December 2009

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you.  єmarsee  • Speak up! 04:54, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of previously published material to our articles . Please cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you.  єmarsee  • Speak up! 19:03, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

• It's becoming obvious that you have an agenda with regard to your edits to Canwest and its talk page. With regard to your latest comment about the $1B+ goodwill writedown that Canwest took: that should be included in the net income figure for Canwest in the infobox. Impairment is an above-the-line item and part of net income. It would be misleading and inaccurate to exclude it from net income in the infobox. —C.Fred (talk) 19:11, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do not include comments within article text. If you wish to discuss edits, please use the article talkpage. Elen of the Roads (talk) 04:14, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

I have reverted the chunk of text you have added, as I am unsure how much of it is sourced, how much of it is current (you seem to be quoting a 2005 report) how much is original research, and what most of it means. Could you start a discussion on the article talk page about the sources and significance of the info you wish to add. If I can understand how it is of benefit to the article, I will assist you in writing it in a suitable form. Elen of the Roads (talk) 18:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

• Today you again added this original research to the Canwest article: (diff)

The driving fact for CanWest's exodus from several local Canadian TV stations, that were not making money, was an agreement to consolidate Goldman Sachs and CanWest's Canadian TV stations. The unusual selling formula had CanWest selling all of its TV stations, and their assets and lands, at their operating profit, and not their asset value. CanWest shareholders would be paying Goldman Sachs to take over certain CanWest TV stations and their assets. To stop this CanWest choose to ditch these unprofitable stations. An example is CanWest selling CHEK, Victoria to the employees, yet CanWest retained control of the building and property.

You provided no source for this addition. According to whom is that the motive for CanWest's sale of the stations? According to whom did CanWest give up cash and the stations to Goldman Sachs? —C.Fred (talk) 20:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

January 2010

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits, such as those you made to Canwest. If you vandalize Misplaced Pages again, you will be blocked from editing. Please explain how this edit is anything but original research. —C.Fred (talk) 18:36, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Look, you've already been blocked once. Please stop soapboxing on the article talkpage. Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:48, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Frankly, this edit today, with the repeated text "Name the other CanWest acquisition??", is just this side of disruptive. You've been reminded before about reliable sources and the prohibition against original research. As Elen said, your long comments on the talk page appear less to be about improving the article and more about getting on a soapbox. This is a case where your edit history has tarnished your reputation.

My advice is that if you want to push for improvement in the article, here's the approach.

1. Focus on one change at a time.
2. Provide a reliable secondary source to back up the change. (Not a SEDAR filing; not an owner's blog; and not an email from management, ownership, a creditor, or counsel to any of the above.)
3. Present a succinct—two paragraphs at the most—summary what needs changed and how the source supports the change. Keep it on target and neutral; don't stray into opinions, "issues of national security", cries of censorship, or anything other than how the article can be approved.

I can't say that a consensus of editors will support the change so it gets made in the article. However, if you do that and remain civil, it will show that you're working in good faith to improve the article—and constructive editors acting in good faith don't get blocked. —C.Fred (talk) 01:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

• However, continuing your abusive edits without logging in, as you appear to be doing from 199.60.104.100 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), is not allowed. —C.Fred (talk) 21:16, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Assuming this guy actually is a Haida, I can tell you from experience that their standard method of dealing with something is to hit it with a rock until it dies, so you may have to perm-block him. HalfShadow 21:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)