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TheSmokingGun.com

Greetings, You participated in a previous discussion about TheSmokingGun.com and whether it can be considered a reliable source. I don't feel that a clear consensus was reached and have reopened the discussion here, should you choose to participate. Regardless, have a Happy New Year!--otherlleft 20:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

NPOV

No problem... I completely agree that this should be discussed (you will note that I started a thread for just such a discussion), and I made the edit expecting that my edit would be reverted. I have found that it often takes both opening a discussion and making a bold edit to generate a propper discussion. Blueboar (talk) 21:38, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

My experience too. Welcome to the BRD club. :-) -- ChrisO (talk) 21:46, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

the funny thing is that I have never said BRD was invalid... but I have said that discussion is needed first. Good for the goose and all that.  :>) Blueboar (talk) 22:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Probation tagging

Thank you for adding the new climate change probation to the relevant talkpages. I seem to recall that there is a bot used for similar well-defined repetitive tasks by various WikiProjects - might not such a solution be easier? - 2/0 (cont.) 02:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Probably, but my knowledge of bots is about as extensive of my knowledge of the nightlife on Alpha Centauri... -- ChrisO (talk) 02:18, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks from me as well for your help, Awickert (talk) 03:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I left a question for you on the AN climate change discussion page, by the way. -- ChrisO (talk) 03:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Notice of Complaint

As required, this is the formal notice that I have filed complaint against you for violation of the Misplaced Pages censorship protocols that have been placed on the entries Dog and Christopher Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley. Nothughthomas (talk) 04:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Although I think you're probably right, Chris, don't mess with the complaint page any more. Let Nothughthomas do as he wishes and wait for somebody else to look at the situation. --TS 04:49, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay. -- ChrisO (talk) 06:28, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

another scibaby sockpuppet?

Has anybody run a checkuser on NoThoughtThomas yet? He sure went from zero to sixty in an instant. Bertport (talk) 04:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

He may be a sockpuppet of User:Saldezza. See WP:AN#Saldezza followup issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 04:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Multi-user complaint is now being organized against User:ChrisO for not making any effort to inform me of his sockpuppet investigation as required. Details will be forthcoming, as is required. Nothughthomas (talk) 07:28, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Objection

I refer you to . Pursuant to that request I further request that you stop all tagging of climate change articles and revert any that you have already tagged until this matter is resolved. --GoRight (talk) 08:49, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration Request Notification

You are involved in a recently-filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Climate Change Probation and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Requesting Arbitration;
• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration guide.

Thanks, --GoRight (talk) 09:59, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Hubbard/Crowley archive open 4 jan

I was asked to pass this on to you, and don't have an Email address: Gerry Armstrong post --Hartley Patterson (talk) 14:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, already aware of it. :-) -- ChrisO (talk) 14:38, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Reichstag

It is good advice and I am sure you are only trying to help, but it is my suspicion that that user would prefer not to interact with you at the moment. Just a thought. Regards, - 2/0 (cont.) 18:14, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay. -- ChrisO (talk) 18:23, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

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I am so out of it

All of a sudden I find article on probation tags everywhere. I didn't see such a big effort to inform editors that this debate was going on and in fact I missed it completely. When I looked at the debate it seemed to involve a very small "in-crowd" and a few hacks. This hardly seems to be a community consensus. Whilst I have never been blocked and will always respond to reason I now feel I am treading on egg shells, I can never be WP:BOLD. I think this could potentially backfire big style. This is an area where the crackpots nearly outnumber the "experts". It is NOT Barak Obama and it is not the Balkans (where nearly every editor is a crazy POV pusher anyway ;-) ). i also posted this comment on TS's talkpage. Polargeo (talk) 06:37, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

User Empowerment to Begin Aggressive Engagement

User:Tbsdy lives apparently feels he has been empowered to "watch" me, and is construing "watch" as "go after". I say this on the basis of his style and manner of discussion here:

1- Talk:BBC#Clarified_the_BBC.27s_Status_as_Britain.27s_Semi-Official_State_Broadcaster 2- Talk:Art_Bell#Obama_vote 3- Talk:Václav_Klaus&action=edit&section=10 4 -User_talk:Nothughthomas

He may have been.

If he has not I would plead for you to exercise some type of intervention to bring this situation under control. With great reluctance I almost feel it would be better to perma-ban me at this point rather than let this spiral any further out of control. I've tried earnestly to disengage and retreat from any entry he appears in but he follows me from entry to entry with the apparent single purpose of challenging any content suggestion I make. This is very disruptive to the articles in question. Thank you in advance. Best Regards - Nothughthomas (talk) 12:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Your recent notice on my Talk page

Chris, you know very well that I know the article is on probation. I do not acknowledge this latest reminder you have plastered on my talk page as being any notice of any wrongdoing on my part. If you think I am not acting properly I insist you say what it is that you think I am doing wrong. Paul Beardsell (talk) 09:20, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I do know this, but notification of you is a formal prerequisite to any request for enforcement under the probation. I don't intend to make any such request at this stage but please see the article talk page for my comments on the material you added. -- ChrisO (talk) 09:24, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Chris, please don't show any restraint here. I think we have reached an impasse and arbitration must be sought. Paul Beardsell (talk) 09:50, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Editing without consultation on an article on probation

Chris, you are making controversial changes to the article redirected to by Climategate without prior discussion on the article's Talk page. Please take note that as the article is under probation that you should not be doing this. I ask that you revert and procede to the Talk page where we can decide by consensus if your changes are appropriate. Thank you, Paul Beardsell (talk) 09:20, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I've explained on the article talk page. Please do not restore the material, as it's a very clear violation of WP:V and WP:BLP. Please also note that the article probation prohibits disruptive editing, which includes "citing unencyclopedic sources". -- ChrisO (talk) 09:23, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

This I deny. Paul Beardsell (talk) 09:53, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

You have made numerous edits WITHOUT SEEKING CONSENSUS. I speak not only of the deletion of material re-added by me to the article but your other edits too. Please revert or I will seek arbitration. Paul Beardsell (talk) 09:48, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

re: Climate Change Probation

Hi ChrisO - Since Al Gore is now on probation, shouldn't Al Gore and the environment also be on probation (regarding Misplaced Pages:General sanctions/Climate change probation). Thanks, -Classicfilms (talk) 18:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out - you're right. If you know of other climate change-related articles that should be tagged but haven't been, please let me know. -- ChrisO (talk) 19:08, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Sure and thanks. -Classicfilms (talk) 19:36, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Rajendra_K._Pachauri#Reliably_sourced_claims_being_removed

Your name is being taken in vain at Talk:Rajendra_K._Pachauri#Reliably sourced claims being removed, if you care to comment William M. Connolley (talk) 12:23, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

You having a laugh?

] How is this an attack page? And why did you blank it?]I am contesting it of course mark nutley (talk) 14:18, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

We're required to blank pages nominated for speedy deletion as attack pages. If you unblank it again I'll ask for you to be blocked for BLP violations. -- ChrisO (talk) 14:19, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

No your not i looked at the blanking policy. --mark nutley (talk) 14:31, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

• Hey. be WP:CIVIL here. Anyhow, editors do have the option of blanking in the realm of speedy deletion when it comes to WP:BLP. Hope this helps. -- Matthew Glennon (/_C\) 14:37, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Stalking

Please familiarize yourself with WP:STALK and stop following me around. If you persist it will be considered WP:HARASS and appropriate resolutions will be pursued. --GoRight (talk) 15:02, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

What happened to your new resolution to work cooperatively and avoid spurious use of policy, GoRight? This is a disappointing lapse. --TS 15:15, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

What are you talking about, GoRight? This has nothing to do with you. -- ChrisO (talk) 15:18, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

If we're collecting wikilawyering by GR, then include the edit comment here William M. Connolley (talk) 15:28, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

That's terrible content - incoherent, misspelled and barely even written in English. -- ChrisO (talk) 15:34, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Unfair accusations

Chris, perhaps in the future you should be a little more circumspect in your accusations of sock puppetry. I notice you are quite active in what by all accounts, appears to be a witchhunt against anyone you (and quite a few others) suspect of being an AWG skeptic. Over 700 Scibaby accusations have been made and 500+ have been banned. 500?? Who could manage that many puppets? I suspect many other innocents have been caught up in this net.

I'd suggest you give a close read to Misplaced Pages:Signs of sock puppetry. SPs normally do not engage in discussion before edits and are generally disruptive. My only "crime" it appears, was being inactive for a while (I only edit pages I know something about - what a concept), and being skeptical of AWG. I would also point out that per WP policy, an accusation is not supposed to be made unless the suspected individual is being disruptive. I put it to you that I have not been disruptive (other than disagreeing with you). Please endeavor to adhere to ] in the future. Jpat34721 (talk) 16:22, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Drivel?

This is just not on. Please remember that the GS/CC include WP:CIVIL. - 2/0 (cont.) 18:57, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Patrick Michaels

Thank you for your contributions to the encyclopedia! In case you are not already aware, an article to which you have recently contributed, Patrick Michaels, is on article probation. A detailed description of the terms of article probation may be found at Misplaced Pages:General sanctions/Climate change probation. Also note that the terms of some article probations extend to related articles and their associated talk pages.

The above is a templated message. Please accept it as a routine friendly notice, not as a claim that there is any problem with your edits. Thank you.

I've just added the tag, so since you're editing there I thought you should know. --TS 19:48, 9 January 2010 (UTC)