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Are you an article of clothing?

While seeking to notify a user about their inappropriate behavior at Talk:Global warming/FAQ, I saw this section referring to you as some sort of article of clothing, very strange. You may want to read the section if you can make sense of it. TMLutas (talk) 04:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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Probation notice

Thank you for your contributions to the encyclopedia! In case you are not already aware, an article to which you have recently contributed, Climatic Research Unit hacking incident, is on article probation. A detailed description of the terms of article probation may be found at Misplaced Pages:General sanctions/Climate change probation. Also note that the terms of some article probations extend to related articles and their associated talk pages.

The above is a templated message. Please accept it as a routine friendly notice, not as a claim that there is any problem with your edits. Thank you. Hipocrite (talk) 19:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Please do not revert a reversion of your edit without addressing the concerns raised by that other user. Prodego 22:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

For some reason I did not notice the talk page section. Prodego 22:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi, your term disingenuous looks rather like a personal attack, please appreciate that it's good Misplaced Pages etiquette to express yourself without casting aspersions on other editors. It would be helpful if you could strike that word and substitute something less inflammatory, such as "wrong". That would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, dave souza, talk 19:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

CRU notification

The reference came from RealClimate itself, making it a primary source. If it had come from a secondary source, I would've kept the existing language. I wanted to make sure that it was clear that what we had was only RealClimate's word for something that RealClimate did. Just being overly cautious. -- Scjessey (talk) 01:32, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

A word to the wise

Please don't take this the wrong way, I do mean this as just a friendly warning. But you need to be careful about editing the CRU article - this edit, for example, is a revert, since you removed the tag. When there's a 1RR limit on an article, it's easy to step over it inadvertently. Guettarda (talk) 01:52, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Unblocked

I've reviewed the situation following a post to the Functionaries mailing list and have determined that I made an error here. Jpat34721 is not a sockpuppet of Scibaby (talk · contribs) and I made a mistake here. I'm really sorry about that. Lifting the block now - Alison 07:16, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I would like to add that we're sorry for any inconvenience that the block has caused. Thank you for taking the time to email the mailing list regarding the block. —Dark 08:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Apology accepted. Although I do understand how hard it is to identify sock-puppeteers, I think WP needs to work a bit on the process. The rush to judgment in this case was astounding. Jpat34721 (talk) 16:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Civility

Even though you are not Scibaby, you must remain civil. Do not accuse others of rushing to judgement when they were misled by a checkuser. Do not state that others are using a checkusers confirmation that you were Scibaby as an "excuse to reinsert POV." Further, since Guettarda already self reverted here, you certainly owe them an apology. Hipocrite (talk) 16:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

User:CrisO was not mislead by checkuser. He made the accusation against me that caused CU to be run by another admin (see above). The "evidence" he presented was laughably flimsy.

Multiple experienced editors believed it was possible you were a sockpuppet. I am one of them. The amount of time that sockpuppets waste on the Global Warming article is outrageous, and you coming back from a three year hiatus was just too convient. Could you please just come clean about whatever your other accounts were, at this point? Hipocrite (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Un-f'n-believable. You lecture me about civility and then come here and make another false accusation against me? For the record, I have had exactly one account on WP, and you are way out of line to suggest otherwise. Jpat34721 (talk) 17:14, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad to be assured of that, Hipocrite's question was badly phrased and should not have read like an accusation. Trust all round will cooperate in future. . . dave souza, talk 17:32, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps the ratio of sockpuppetry on Global Warming articles is directly related to the fanantical approach that AGW proponents have towards blocking any opposing views. Sockpuppets are the result of an underlying problem, not the cause of existing problems. Arzel (talk) 17:07, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

This comment attacks other editors, and fails to assume good faith as required by policy. I suggest that you take no notice of it. Thanks, dave souza, talk 17:32, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, as a survivor of the SciBaby hysteria myself, I feel your pain. A number of people have complained about the ease with which people are accused and checkusered as SciBaby sock or meat puppets. You may want to be aware of a page that is being started to capture the stories of those who have been impacted by this effort here. If you are so inclined you might want to contact the author of that article and share your story. --GoRight (talk) 20:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Hypocrite, you are out of line. Checkuser has confirmed that Jpat is not Scibaby, continued accusations to the contrary is not at all helpful. I suggest you take a deep breath and come back with an apology. The lack of good faith is astounding. —Dark 23:19, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I can also state here that Jpat34721 isn't socking at all right now, Scibaby or otherwise - Alison 23:28, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Edit warring at Climatic Research Unit hacking incident

Your edit here is extremely problematic. Wait for consensus at Talk:Climatic Research Unit hacking incident#Corcoran (where I see you are engaging now) before insisting that your text should be included in the article. This is a collaborative project and, as mentioned a few threads up, the tolerance for disruptive editing is quite low at that article at present. - 2/0 (cont.) 03:06, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

You mean where I attempted to insert some balance into the one-sided framing of the controversy we are chronicling with a well reasoned overview from the editor of a major publication with over 35 years of experience which was objected to by one user with a history of disruptive editing? Oh ok JPatterson 03:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

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I think that it is not registering as a signature to the bot because there is no link to your user or usertalk page - Misplaced Pages:Signatures. In the edit signature box under Preferences you can uncheck the sign my name exactly as shown box to have the software automatically link your signature to your userpage, or you can add something like ] to produce a link to here displaying your preferred text. Regards, - 2/0 (cont.) 16:47, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Violation of 1rr

You have violated the 1rr rule at Climatic Research Unit hacking incident. this reverts this, while this in effect, reverts both this and this. A revert is "any action that reverses the actions of other editors." I suggest you may have done this in error - if you self revert the page to any version that you don't like (I suggest to avoid possibly revering Tarc), I suspect you will not be prevented from further editing the article. Obviously controvercial changes (like, for instance, changing the wording of the climategate part of the lead) should be discused, and have consensus reached on the talk page before making the edit, not after. Hipocrite (talk) 17:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

1RR

Hi. I noticed that you called this edit a revert in your edit summary. Coming just minutes after this edit, which reverts in part to this version, since it undoes Hip's edit (see this diff), you're pretty clearly in violation of the 1RR article parole. It would be good if you would self-revert. Thanks. Guettarda (talk) 17:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Enforcement request

Given that you have continued to edit after the above notifications, I have requested enforcement against you at Requests_for_enforcement#Jpat34721. Hipocrite (talk) 18:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC)