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Image:UTAH SR-24.PNG

Why did you recreate File:UTAH SR-24.PNG? The licence listed there is for a PDF, not a PNG, and any file with that licence is a speedy candidate as it's "Used with permission". --fvw* 02:23, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

I did not recreate it. The original deletion was in error, as it was deleted for no source the day after it was uploaded (without giving 7 days). The original uploader re-uploaded it. I'm still not sure the image is OK to have here, but it deserves discussion, not a speedy deletion. --SPUI (talk) 02:26, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

It's currently not got an associated image and is an orphan image info page, created by you. Maybe someone deleted it while you were modifying it? Anyway, the seven day wait isn't necessary here, as it's a "used with permission" licence uploaded after may 2005. See WP:CSD for more info. --fvw* 02:29, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Norfolk Southern (former)

I hope you did not mind my nominating your NS article for the DYK feature and adding to it. The various Yahoo rail groups are excited about it. A fellow named Harry Bundy who is active in my Virginian railway Enthusiasts Yahoo group (550 members online!) is something like a 50-year veteran. Railfans have noted that the original NS (as they seem to call it) may hold some kind of record for its many financial reorganizations. Here are some notes from Harry about the article:

"Mark:

A few corrections:

There is reference to Mackey. Prior to the trestle (1910), this was listed in timetables as Mackey's Ferry. After, the station became Mackeys.

It also notes that this station is "on the other side of the Albemarle Sound from Elizabeth City". It's on the other side of the Albemarle Sound from Edenton.

Virginia and Carolina Coast Railroad - later the Suffolk & Carolina. In addition to the line between Suffolk south to Edenton, the S&C also had a line from Beckford Jct. (on the Suffolk-Edenton section) to Elizabeth City.

The Egyptian Railroad. It isn't said, and not many people know, but North Carolina had coal near Cumnock. It was known as the Egyptian field. NS steam locomotives burned coal from the Egyptian field until about 1935. As one engineer noted - "it packed all the btu's of a day-old cow pie".

Trivia - Chocowinity was named Marsden to reduce having to send the eleven- alphas. As Texas Gulf Sulphur began receiving shipments, Marsden became the governing agency. In 1966 BZC (before zip codes), the agent at Timbuktu would send any correspondence regarding shipments to AGENT-Marsden, NC. Marsden wasn't a post office. The mail would usually be received by the SAL agent at Marston, NC and he, being a railroad familiar, would forward it to Chocowinity. So at one midnight in 1966, Marsden became Chocowinity and the NS went back to 1917 because in repeating train orders, stations are spelled out letter-by-letter. Care to guess what dunce was working the night ALL bulletin orders had to be rewritten showing Chocowinity instead of Marsden, and then repeated to the dispatcher?"

                                                             Harry Bundy

I must learn to do spell checking before releasing my work (due to my motor coordination disability, I transpose letters, creating misspelling a 2nd grader could avoid). Thus, the image file of the night shot of the NS passenger train on the Albemarle Sound was misspelled. I highly recommend the ieSpell program. Good article. I hope it makes the main page.

BTW, if you get a chance to come up with a simple map of the Historic Triangle, it would enhance that article a great deal, I believe. Thanks! Mark. Vaoverland 21:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Traffic Circles on AfD: White Horse Circle

Hey, this article is on AfD. You may want to vote on it.

Roodog2k (talk) 16:14, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

I-4

Question- I'm not the one who made the edit or anything, but ... you don't think the high amount of tourist traffic on I-4 through Orlando merits mention? JD 18:40, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Please don't use edit summaries like "cock in yo ass". User:Zoe| 07:40, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Fair use question

I wanted to ask you about the fair use images on Rhode Island State Highways/Map sources. They don't seem to be linked to from any pages at the moment, so I was asking you what they were used for. I was wondering if the "fair use" ones could be deleted if they are no longer used. Thanks. --Fastfission 15:49, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I was just wondering. The difficulty is of course that Rand McNally would be able to claim that they were being defrauded by this as people could use these instead of their wonderful atlases, but I find that pretty unlikely (especially since they'd be hard to print out) so I'm willing to not worry about it. --Fastfission 15:57, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I didn't realize that it was so out of date and useful only as a historical reference of sorts. I think that makes it pretty safe since there isn't really any market for outdated maps. ;-) --Fastfission 16:01, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

VfD

Please stop mucking about with VfD. Leave the redirects in place. android79 22:20, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

VFD

Uh, what exactly are you doing on Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion? Talrias (t | e | c) 22:21, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Stop changing the VfD redirect

It's pointless and disruptive and you know it. Stop it or you'll be blocked. --fvw* 22:24, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Please leave the redirect alone . . . some of us are still in the habit of typing WP:VFD for AFD! - orioneight (talk) 22:47, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

BC Rail a class I?

Hi, do you have a source for this edit? My understanding was that BC Rail was a provincially-chartered railway, and since it was provincially-chartered and not federally-chartered, it would be a Class II, regardless of how much revenue it earned. Thanks, JYolkowski // talk 01:23, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Union Station (Chicago)

Ok, I see you point. I thought by intercity you were talking about anywhere outside of Chicago because Ogilvie serves Kenosha and other smaller cities in the metro area. --Gpyoung  00:52, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar

...it wasn't like I was fishing for one or anything...

• Thanks so much for the Barnstar. All the hard work does pay off, even if vandalism is at play. User:Tancarville 28th September 2005 (EST)

DYK

Barnstar?

What type of barnstar is that (zOMG!!!)?

Is it a joke? I can type. C2 aaron

Stop

Stop Closing VFD's

Stop Closing Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Freehold Circle early. U could clearly see there are 4 Delete votes and no Keep Votes so just leave it like that and just vote and let a admin close it --JAranda | yeah 03:28, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, please stop closing it. There was a reason provided for the nomination, no matter how bad a reason you may feel it to be. android79 01:45, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

What ↑ they all said. Stop it or you'll be blocked. Last warning. --fvw* 02:00, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Oh, you've also violated the 3RR, and have been blocked for 24 hours. Heed these warnings though: you won't get as many in future. --fvw* 02:02, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

WP:NPA please. Broken S 02:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

No attacks against the encyclopedia please. --SPUI (talk) 02:23, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

bwaackoink

page recreation

Please stop recreating AfDed pages. --fvw* 14:56, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Please do not speedy delete redirects. I have performed a proper merge. --SPUI (talk) 14:57, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

That's nice, but the outcome of the AfD was delete, so the page gets deleted. If you need the history for GFDL purposes we can move it to a subpage of the article's talk page. --fvw* 15:00, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Last warning, you know the drill. --fvw* 15:00, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Go read discussion on wikien-l. Most of the delete reasons were unambiguously against the actual deletion policy - David Gerard 15:19, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't read the mailinglist, it's annoying to split the discussion in different places. --fvw* 15:32, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

• SPUI, you've just had one 3RR block lifted early, but you're pretty likely to get another one if you keep recreating White Horse Circle. David Gerard does not want that redirect deleted. I do not want that redirect deleted. Keep a cool head and let us restore it if it gets deleted again, please. --Stormie 21:14, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

• • Please stop. User:Pilatus thinks that some of your contributions are "vandalism" — while I disagree with such an extreme statement, I do think that you should not be closing AfDs in which you are participating and especially when there is a consensus contrary to your opinion. Andrew pmk | Talk 05:11, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Road guide on Wikibooks

You should remake a "What every driver must know" guide on Wikibooks. Just give it a shot. --SuperDude 17:13, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

List of California State Routes

Someone wants to convert this to a template so it wound up at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of California State Routes --Rschen7754 05:24, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Tempalte: WV Highways

The links are all messed up since they now link to the number one, for example. --Rschen7754 06:43, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

West Virginia Template

We got most of the state highways listed for WV. Template:WV Highways now just need to start expanding them more. User:Rschen7754 has been coming along behind me editing WV stuff. He should have been editing in his own back yard. List of California State Routes had Interstates and US Highways in it, and it was too long, so I fixed that for them by making Interstate Highways in California and US Highways in California. That was a no brainer split, since the title was California State Routes --71Demon 23:57, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

• I travel out there, so I don't have a problem editing. It is a good edit. Sucks about your vandalism. --71Demon 00:10, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
• Though honestly the split looks fine - sorry about my initial reaction. --SPUI (talk) 00:08, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Dude, I don't do vindictive. Not my style. I just hold people to the same standard. That List of California State Routes entry was way to big, loaded slow on my T-1. Interstate Highways in California and US Highways in California was all in that same entry. It was alot worse. I did a similar split on West Virginia this past week. --71Demon 00:14, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

The Great Subway Map Crackdown

See my recent comment at Talk:New York City Subway#MTA Map. Thanks.--Pharos 16:13, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm researching the easiest way to run some errands and attend Petrocollapse in New York tomorrow, and your subway map proved invaluable. Thanks for creating it. Ground 22:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

West Virginia State Highways and more

Your right on the numbering being wrong on all the WV routes, I saw it on the discussion. If you read the history most were correct and moved by Rschen7754 He means well, but he seems to be trying to make everything like California and California is kind of the oddball when it comes to legislation compared to the rest of the county. Must be a school project, his page says he is a High School Sophomore. That would make him 15 or 16, he is still learning, so I will cut him more slack than I was before.

I have to make a few more sheilds, and finish this. I got distracted, but I got the idea from the CA pages List of U.S. Highways in West Virginia. I also did the Interstate Highways in West Virginia --71Demon 23:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I-268 I just fixed it.

I had info you didn't. I was sitting in Paul Mattox's office when I was told by him it was going to be I-268. US 50 Association note the second name on the Mineral County list, replace with User:71Demon. I have a meeting in November again in Charleston with Paul Mattox and Joe Manchin. I'm pretty well connected. --71Demon 23:10, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

• What did you do? That was a PITA to fix. --71Demon 23:17, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

• • http://www.wvdot.com/12_contacts/12_contacts.htm Note Division of Highways head. Note my edit references. --71Demon 23:32, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

• • I'm moving it back to Interstate 268(Proposed) because that is what everybody local is now refering too. I have never even heard it refered to in DOH in Charleston as West Run. It is being put as an Interstate because of the PA Turnpike Shunpiking Route try ot increase traffic on I-79 south and I-68 for commerce. The entry was created at Interstate 268(Proposed)--71Demon 23:38, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

• • It was orginally created as Interstate 268(Proposed) I don't have a problem with a discussion taking place if you want to move it. I think that is fair. --71Demon 23:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

• • Most of the local newspapers require a subscription to get the archieved files which sucks. Because I send links out to politicians in the state on regular basis, and if they don't read them right away they can't see them. I think discussion is fair if you want to move it from the orginal creation. Both of have better things to do than to have an edit war. Had you created it, I would left it alone and dicuss it with you. When completed it will be I-268. Here in WV we refer to things by the numbers. I-68 is the National Freeway, nobody calls it that. It is just 68, 268 will be the same way. Even the National Road is just refered to as 40. Now down in DC people refer to the George Washington Parkway, and I couldn't tell you want the number is. It is just how it is, at DOH in Charleston it is getting called 268 that is the name that will stick. It is the way of the area. Just like in California they call roads The 5 or The 405. Back here we would just stay 405. I called an accident to 911 in Fontana, CA on Interstate 15. I called it I-15 and the dispatcher corrected me when she repeated it back and ask if I said The 15. Trust me on this, I'm local and go out to Morganhole a good bit. --71Demon 23:58, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

• • • The spelling errors occurred because I had to cut and paste to put it back. I made some mistakes on the cut and paste fixing it. --71Demon 00:12, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

• • • Sorry about the spelling errors. I'm not the worlds greatest speller never have been. Don't know anything about Drunski, except he says he lives in Morgantown.

I do have a question. I created the I-268 article, you had no discussion an moved it, so I moved it back. Why are you right and I'm wrong? I can understand if there was a discussion about moving it before you did, but me fixing it should have been a reason for you to start a discussion. Why are you treated better than me? --71Demon 00:44, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Corridor H

Your partially right on that. It has the Copyright tag, but I have a call into Brian Carr which is in planning at DOH for confirmation. I think it might just be something generic the webmaster puts on all pages. State had some hand outs with the exact same info, that were not copyrightes. I started to reword it so it is not a direct copy and to make you happy I think your holding a grudge. Try to bury the hatchet on other projects, can you lend a hand rewording? We both have the best interest in Highways in mind.

--71Demon 23:56, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

DYK

interurbans / chicagoland

left you a note at Template talk:CTA Tedernst 16:03, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Winchester and Western Railroad and South Branch Valley Railroad

As I don't know much or at least close to nothing about railroads in the United States, I was wondering if you could please share with me where these railroads fit into the fabric of the B&O railroad system. I've seen that you have written extensively on many American railroad lines. I know both were at times parts of the B&O System. Had you ever heard of them? I've always known of them from a local standpoint. The W&W is mostly abandoned and the SBVR was bought by the State of West Virginia as a tourist attraction and to haul grain and feed. I'd appreciate if you could offer up your estemed opinion of these two railroads.

Oh, and as a West Virginian, I have to agree with 71Demon, the West Run Expressway as a named highway is dead and it's back to being referred to as I-268. It is incorrect to redirect I-268 to an article named so. I suggest an article for West Run Expressway as a former concept that can be linked to from a separate I-268 article. --Caponer 00:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

• I looked at some topo maps in that area and the abandoned rail bed of the W&W is still listed and the SBVR is still functioning but I was wondering how they fit in with the grand scheme of things. I was wondering if they could get included on the Railroad template but I'm not sure what class they were, most definitely not high on the list of importance. --Caponer 00:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

O RLY reply

According to the AFD of this article: The result of the debate was delete.

Since someone recreates it, it's now a redirect? This is a chronically re-created article, at least that was what I got from a cursory glance at it. Shouldn't this have to go through the undeletion process, technically, to even get a redirect? Even the talk page has a warning against re-creating it. Am I missing something here? --W.marsh 03:06, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

re: Class I template

Aw, jeez, now I'll have to think about it. B-) Good points, all. I was going through several articles looking for new facts for Portal:Trains/Did you know and WP:GA candidates when I ran across these two in the template. I've always known Columbus and Greenville as CAGY, but I'll be the first to admit that I hadn't really researched it yet. As to Montour, as far as I know, reporting marks were always a minimum of two letters. For both of them, I just looked at the articles and used the mark that is listed in the lead since that seemed the most natural to me. Having M and C&G in the template just looked wrong and inconsistent with the rest of the template to me. I'll have to research and think about it a little more before I really come to an opinion, but right now I think the more modern marks look better in the list. Whether they are more appropriate is a question that I don't have an answer to right now. I'll get back to you on it... slambo 21:57, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Conrail

Congratulations are in order for your efforts to cleanup and present Conrail, one of the more complicated railroad articles. I guess we should have known you would be the one to face this challenge after your work on the original Norfolk Southern Railway, with a history of bankruptcies and reorganizations which was almost complex, save the government ownership aspect. Mark Vaoverland 06:00, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Road stubs

All of the following made their way to WP:SFD:

• {{Arizona State Route Stub}}
• {{Kentucky State Highway Stub}}
• {{Maryland-State-Highway-Stub}}
• {{Massachusetts-State-Highway-Stub}}
• {{Michigan-State-Highway-Stub}}
• {{Missouri-State-Highway-Stub}}
• {{Nevada-State-Highway-Stub}}
• {{New-Hampshire-State-Highway-Stub}}
• {{Nhroute}}
• {{Washington-State-Highway-Stub}}

--Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:51, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Image:Chessie 255x70.png

You reverted my removal of a speedy tag on Image:Chessie 255x70.png. Under exactly which CSD does this qualify for speedy deletion? I don't see any that apply. DES 19:31, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I have now created {{Orphaned fairuse}} and a short-cut {{or-fu}} to tag images in this situation, on the model of {{nosource}} or {{unverified}}. That should help, i hope. DES 19:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

The one reason to name the variable is that in the rare case where the new image name includes an equals sign, the positional form breaks and the named form doesn't, as I understand it. But that is a reare case. DES 20:12, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes subst: will probably do for the rare case. i picked this up when someone altered {{nothanks-sd}} to use a named parameter, after I created it with a positional one. Of course, a URL is far more likely to include an equals sign than is an image name. DES 20:22, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Busette image

My Busette image is no good? I have it in my personal collection of Wayne literature from when I was a dealer. i thought that would be OK, but admit i am weak on images and copyrights. Help! I don;t want to screw up. Mark Vaoverland 21:37, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

and the company is defunct since 1992, liquidated. Vaoverland 22:27, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

is it tagged properly now, there is also another one in the cutaway van chassis article, same deal, ambulance version of busette, from my collection of ads when i was dealer, so long ago! thanks, mark Vaoverland 22:29, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to argue. I just want to know what a correct tag should be and change it as appropriate. I think the faulty self thinking came from scanning and that was while ago, not recently. Is promotional flag right for an ad, or do you think just fairuse is best? Thanks. Vaoverland 23:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

WP:NPA

Please do not engage in personal attacks, especially not in edit summaries. Some do not have skin as thick as I. Hipocrite - «Talk» 19:36, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

If you continue to engage in personal attacks in your edit summary, I will ask an adminstrator to interviene. This is not something I relish doing. Please stop. Hipocrite - «Talk» 23:30, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Template:Chicago L

Actually, I was thinking that Misplaced Pages:Assume good faith was meaningful, and the reason that you were "waiting" for an explanation is that you hadn't read the reasons on the talk page that were waiting for you, and that the reason you hadn't answered the questions posed to you on said talk page was because you hadn't seen them. Apparently, I thought wrong; perhaps you should review Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks and Misplaced Pages:Civility before editting any further. siafu 20:13, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

• Have you considered making a template for Chicago interurban trains, rather than mixing it in with L? You could include Metra and South Shore, as well, which makes much more sense. We also wouldn't have to fight about it. siafu 02:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Not a valid CFD

Pictures are not a valid reason for a speedy delete. Hipocrite - «Talk» 23:36, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Amtrak_schematic.png

Your image Amtrak_schematic.png shows up as broken on Amtrak and the image history only shows deleted edits on the Misplaced Pages side. However, Image:Amtrak_schematic.png is in Commons and therefore should be showing up. Any idea what's up with that? Thatdog 01:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Edit summaries and 3RR

You've violated the 3RR on Suicide methods, in addition to making a number of particularly uncivil edit summaries. Rather than blocking everyone involved (I count two, maybe three people violating 3RR here), I've protected the page. That said, I will indeed block you if you continue to verbally abuse other editors, such as here and here. Consider this your warning. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 03:25, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

What the fuck?!

DYK

Re:Stub redirects

No, stub redirects have been handled by SFD ever since that page was set up. Any stub redirects at RFD should always be sent over to SFD. Grutness...wha? 00:22, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

It may make no sense to you, but that's the way the page works, and it makes sense to everyone else, both at SFD and at RFD. Please stop vandalising the SFD page. Grutness...wha? 00:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Stop vandalising sfd. what are u up to? BL kiss the lizard 00:49, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Also, do not remove sfd notices from templates while they are listed on sfd. If they are more appropriate for RfD, the deletion debate would be moved there, and the notices changed. But that is not the consensus at present, so the sfd notices should remain. --Mairi 04:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Bike-stub

Do not recreate deleted content. If you feel it was improperly deleted, go through Misplaced Pages:Deletion review to have it undeleted. --Mairi 04:26, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Re stub redirects

Hi again - you wrote: Click edit on Pennsylvania Railroad, which uses {{US class 1}}. Only {{North America class I}} is displayed.

Perhaps it's only stub templates then. Click on the edit window of Fatty's Tintype Tangle. Both templates (film-stub and its redirect mov-stub) are clearly displayed below the edit box. Grutness...wha?

Vandalism

Would you please knock this stuff off? --Blackcap | talk 05:19, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

And this, too, please. Pilatus 22:59, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Bike stub

What are you so worked up about that you need to swear at Grutness, and place a large number of copies of the bike-stub template on your user page?-gadfium 07:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

And at User:Mairi, too. Tempshill 15:48, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Bike-stub

{{bike-stub}} is a useful redirect. If you want it deleted, please take it to RFD. Listing it on SFD is the equivalent of sweeping it under the rug where no one will see. --SPUI (talk) 00:14, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

True; {{bike-stub}} is not a stub type in the sense that it is not a message indicating that an article is a stub; it is a template redirect under the jurisdiction of RFD. (That reasoning may appeal to some of the "process" voters at WP:VFU.) Wikiacc (talk) 19:10, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

DJ Amuro

For the song Mei on Happy Sky (credited to "Amuro vs Killer"), the scrolling LED marquee calls it "MEI(TAKASH)". As we know Killer is Tatsh, this would seem to suggest Taka + Tatsh, implying that Taka is Amuro. In any case, things like this suggest that it is *someone's* psuedonym, and I have yet to see any evidence pointing towards it being anyone but Taka (and even something as conjectural as what I'm presenting here beats no evidence to the contrary). Considering that people basically accepted Amuro being Taka as a 'fact' long before even this evidence was available, and I see no reason not to believe that, I'm not sure why you're holding out so steadfastly on this specific issue. Nonetheless, maybe this will convince you?

Florida Bridge ID's

http://www.fgdl.org/ - GIS Data, contains bridge info. Unfortunately, no National Bridge Database info.. --Mcmillen76 03:08, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

1842

I've changed the 1842 extension back to Mount Carbon. However, the line to Pottsville already existed, as the Mount Carbon Railroad (originally built to connect the canal to mines), so I clarified that. --SPUI (talk) 23:26, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks, good job, that is true Scott 00:50, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

  Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Scottfisher"

A1A Alignment through KCS/CCAFS

SPUI, thought you should look at Talk:Florida State Road A1A. I put up a graphic of research of benchmarks that give indications to the former alignments of SR A1A.

--Mcmillen76 13:10, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Template:AustraliaPM

As one who agrees with you in substance, how about laying off the personal attacks? Slac speak up! 09:41, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Tosser

I wasn't advocating deleting the {{wi}} template, I was tagging the otherwise empty Tosser article. What purpose does that article serve? Tonywalton  | Talk 19:53, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough, but I still don't understand the purpose of tagging a completely empty article, which would only ever be a dicdef anyway, with it. What's it actually for? Tonywalton  | Talk 20:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Ah - it's for saying "this would only ever be a dicdef anyway" :-) Thanks for the explanation. I'll watch out for those in future. Tonywalton  | Talk 20:21, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Slander

How do you continue to justify calling my nomination "bad faith"? Please present evidence or retract your slanderous statement.Gateman1997 20:12, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

This guy's about as sharp as a bowling ball huh? --K1vsr (talk) 01:56, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Image:Road-stub.png has been listed for deletion

Sup

Fucken yo Turducken. --K1vsr (talk) 01:55, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

SAC Nomination

--K1vsr (talk) 02:01, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Image resizing

You don't have to sacrifice your full size image. Simply make a smaller version of it specifically for displaying thumbnailed in articles, and on that thumbnail page, link to the full size version. You can still upload as high a resolution image as you want, it's just that the servers can't handle resizing them. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-11-7 19:29

Florida Road Maps

You said you had some maps, and to remind you in a few days. It's been a few days. --Mcmillen76 01:18, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Possible Impostors

Hey, I just noticed on the user creation page that someone's making several new usernames with a similar name as yours, including:

• User:SPUI2
• User:SPUI3
• User:SPUI4
• User:SPUI5

and possibly more since then. I'm thinking it could be an impostor of you, but wanted to make sure you're not just making dopplegangers of yourself. Also, I wanted to bring this to you attention. Thanks! -- PRueda29 02:32, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Alright, they've been blocked. -- PRueda29 02:43, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

super cool

Why are you posting the same content as the vandalbot? -- Curps 21:15, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

1. Yes, but why?
2. ... and I am simply removing it below.

-- Curps 01:17, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

3rr warning

Please do not keep undoing other people's edits without discussing them first. This is considered impolite and unproductive. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. Thank you.--Doc 00:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Blocked per the warnings above

You're blocked for 24 hours under 3rr on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Interchanges on Ontario provincial highway 401. Believing it should be speedy kept is fine, but you have to respect the opinions of other editors. Karmafist 00:33, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Following your agreement not to do it again, I've unblocked. A word of advice: while I sympathize with your frustration at AFD, you should realize that a) revert wars get you nowhere, since everyone has the ability to revert back just as reasily as you revert, and b) the best way to effect a policy change like that is not disruption but discussion, like opening a policy consensus page on the category. I realize that may be unsatisfying advice, as its no guarantee that you get what you want (but I can't do anything about that). Also, in the future, it is much more prefereable to use email or your talk page to communicate and not a sockpuppet (or Sockenpuppe), since you are supposed to be blocked after all. By the way, I'm trusting that my good faith will be rewarded here... Dmcdevit·t 01:40, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Highway 401

I'm a bit surprised and dismayed that this is on the verge of deletion: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Interchanges on Ontario provincial highway 401. To me, this is akin to throwing out information that is as valuable as spectroscopic data. You think it would be a good idea for you to userfy it, so that perhaps the information is saved somewhere? --HappyCamper 17:31, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

regarding stub redirects

Hi. I replied to your comment here, and I just wanted to drop you a note to be sure you don't miss it. -GTBacchus 17:50, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

New Jersey State Highways

SPUI, was wondering if we could have your input at Talk:New Jersey State Highways. Thanks. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

SPUI, I would also appreciate your guidance in any changes neccessitated by the reformatting of the List of State Routes in New Jersey and the individual roadways. Feel free to divvy up the work or provide any pointers on what needs to be done. Alansohn 21:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Interested in a VFD?

Check out User:Timecop/The_war_on_blogs. Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Image:Amtrak California simplified map.svg

This image, Image:Amtrak California simplified map.svg, has two San Joses, with one of them located where San Diego should be. 13:36, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism of George Alexander article

Please do not take it upon yourself to blank out the information at George Alexander (US Army soldier) and make it a redirect, as you have already done 9 times, this is a form of vandalism. The proper route for suggesting that the articles be merged is to use {{merge|OTHER ARTICLE}} at the top of the article, I also suggest you look at Misplaced Pages:Merge#Proposing_a_merge for more ideas on how to constructively and fairly try to see the articles merged together. Sherurcij 08:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism of your User page

I won't be bothering to patrol your User page any more. If vandals hit it, more power to them. User:Zoe| 00:55, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Fucking congratulations

I ran some statistics on the database copy on zedler and found that you were #1 on the list of users ordered by the number of edit summaries they've used fuck in, with 262 fucking occourances of fuck, way ahead of the runner up that had 47. So fucking contratulations (I myself was 7th on the list with 15 occourances). —Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 01:40, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Holy fuck. --SPUI (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Judeofascism

Please do not restore this again. You've misunderstood how AfD works. People vote on the title, not on the current contents, which can always be changed. It's only if voters feel the title is, say, inherently POV, or that it could never be encyclopedic because of the lack of good sources, that they vote to delete. If they vote to keep, it's up to the editors on the page whether it should stay as an article or become a redirect, just as all content decisions are up to the editors on the page at any given time. People voted to delete Judeofascism, as a title, which is why you can't restore it without going through deletion review. If you restore it again, you may be blocked for disruption. SlimVirgin 02:40, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

You've misunderstood AfD. Once a title is deleted, it can't be unilaterally restored to be either a page with text on it, or a page with the word "redirect" on it. It has to go through deletion review, which is why Ta bu has nominated it. Please allow that process to take place without pre-empting its decision. SlimVirgin 02:47, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

No, look: suppose a completely unknown person is suddenly elected to a senior political position, and I create an article on him, and it's terrible: full of errors, no sources, bad writing. You see it, try to delete the contents and start again, but I keep reverting you. According to your view of AfD, you could then nominate it for deletion, and people might vote to delete it on the basis of the current contents being terrible. But of course that wouldn't happen, because the guy would be notable, so everyone would vote to keep, regardless of the current contents. When people vote on AfD, they are not voting on the current contents. AfD has no control over the normal editing process i.e. page content. They control only which pages exist i.e. which titles exist. If a title is kept, it's up to editors to decide what to put on the page. If it is deleted, it has to go through deletion review, whether you want to write the word "redirect" on it, or a whole article. SlimVirgin 02:58, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Those are the speedy delete rules. Not the same thing. This article wasn't speedied. It went through an AfD where people voted overwhelmingly to delete the title. But please don't post to my page and to deletion review, because I'm having to write everything twice. Please just read the deletion policy and let the review take place. Why are you so keen to pre-empt it? SlimVirgin 03:09, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Deletion policy. SlimVirgin 03:14, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

This is becoming ridiculous. Read the policy. "Deleted pages can be restored, by administrators, if and only if there is support on Misplaced Pages:Votes for undeletion, or the page was speedily deleted out-of-process." Ta bu, who is an experienced admin, started that process. He would not have done so had he been allowed simply to recreate it as a redirect. Please stop making me repeat myself. A vote is underway. Please respect it! SlimVirgin 03:33, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

VFU

SlimVirgin was correct to speedy delete the redirect while a VfU was underway. Let's just wait till we get some decision. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:14, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Alaska

Regarding your recent edit to the Alaska article stating that many commuter rail services still offer flag stop service - do you have any sources to support this? —akghetto (talk) 07:11, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the cite, however as you also stated, it is a bit different than flagging down a train on a platform; even calling the Alaska Rail Road an "intercity" service is a tad of a stretch. The train literally goes through the middle of nowhere - it is the only means of getting to and from some areas of the state. You're not flagging down the train on a platform, you're in the woods standing along the track with no one else in a 50 mile radius trying to flag down a speeding full-size locomotive. Anywho, unless you streniously object, I think I'm going to re-add this notation to the Alaska article.

OK, how about, "It's one of America's last flag stop trains."? —akghetto (talk) 06:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

My revert

That's an archive of the vote, which is closed. There shouldn't be any further editing of it. SlimVirgin 16:28, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

It doesn't matter when El C archived it. You can read. You could see for yourself that it closed several days ago. Please don't edit archives. SlimVirgin 16:41, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

You're right. I should have left an edit summary. I apologize. SlimVirgin 16:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Image:Lobby 7 hack in progress.jpg

Somebody requested speedy deletion of this photo because it is fuzzy. That is no reason for speedy delete so it has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests instead. Thuresson 06:47, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Contender for Ugliest Cloverleaf Award

--Analogdemon (talk) 16:35, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Nice Edit

SPUI, nice edit... Its as though something should be here, but isn't anymore. Feel free to remove this too, it's your page! --Mcmillen76 17:47, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Sheik Yerbouti

Interstate 165 --Analogdemon (talk) 03:19, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Slashdot

Can you explain what the hell you are doing on the slashdot talkpage? --Fangz 00:13, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Interstate highway articles

Hi--I was just curious as to how the articles you tagged for cleanup are in need of cleanup. Please let me know and I'll try to fix them. Thanks Paul 14:41, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't believe cleanup is the appropriate tag for articles that need to be split. In fact, I think there's a tag used for the very purpose of splitting. If you get a chance, please change cleanup to the other tag instead. Best, Paul 14:46, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

RFC not approved

Aren't the RFC's supposed to stay up for 48 hours? You deleted the reference to it prematurely. May I ask why? Uncle Ed 22:24, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi

I see you in the RC all the time; so I decided to give you a barnstar of diligence:

Take care, εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 20:46, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

State Highway templates

I disagree with your placing browse boxes on Interstates. What happens when we have Interstate 95 with 15 boxes? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

We have Browse State Highways on the {{routeboxint}} template- it is more compact, and it is universal among Interstates. Interstate 5 has an example. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:51, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Welcome

Hello, I'm ]. An edit that you recently made seemed to be a test and has been reverted. If you want to practice editing, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on ]. Thanks! --Anus

Please refrain from making test edits in Misplaced Pages pages, even if you intend to fix them later. Your edits have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use your sandbox. Thank you. --Anus

Please stop making test edits to Misplaced Pages. It is considered vandalism, which, under Misplaced Pages policy, can lead to being blocked from editing. If you would like to experiment again, please use your sandbox. --Anus

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Misplaced Pages. --Anus

Template:Test8 --Anus

Template:Test9 --Anus

Thanks

Thank you for your help on the LIFE page. It is much appreciated. I have a hard time dealing with that character and it is hard to remain civil. Chooserr 06:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Shpants

I am just finding this incredible. Here is my take on it:

First off, we had a page written by a 13 year old girl claiming to be the person that invented "Shpants", saying that it was invented in October 2005, when in reality the term had been in use since 1997, but was more commonly called "Three Quarter Pants". We investigated and found out that "Shants" and "Shpants" (meaning "Short pants") were 2 common alternative names.

So I went and wrote "Three Quarter Pants" halfway through the AFD, and Peyna made Shants redirect to 3/4 pants rather than shorts, and made Shpants an exact copy of Three Quarter Pants. It is a word, proven to be, it just wasn't invented in October 2005 by some 13 year old girl. Quite a simple thing.

Everyone bar the person who nominated it for deletion agreed on a redirect.

The closer somehow missed the "or" votes and went and deleted it. 5:3 is a no consensus anyway so I don't know what is going on there.

I went and made it a redirect, rather than going through the undeletion issue. I did the same thing for Satan Worshipping when we had the exact same issue, and nobody cared about that. Its the same issue. How popular a name is is irrelevant when making a redirect. Just so long as some people use it. Satan Worshipping means Devil Worshipping and Shpants means 3/4 pants. Simple.

Then the guy who nominated it for deletion put it up for speedy deletion on the basis of "recreating previously deleted content". Wait on - but previously there was an article. This was just a redirect. I wrote to him on his talk page, and the guy wouldn't listen to reason. And then to top it all off, it actually got speedied. Since when? There's no rationale for it. I asked him to remove his speedy request, and he wouldn't do it.

So I go in to deletion review, cos there's no choice now. I mean having to go to deletion review over a redirect is stupidity personified.

Everyone agrees that its an open and shut case. Except that WAIT ON there's no published sources that says that Shpants is the name! OH NO! That means it doesn't warrant its own article! OH NO! But it does still warrant its own redirect. Of course it doesn't warrant its own article. We know that. Well, unless we accept that Shpants/Shants means 1 leg shorts and 1 leg pants - in which case it does. But I only saw one reference for that, so I am not accepting it. And of course then sometimes 3/4 pants are used to mean capri pants.

But then in comes the back patting. "Yes, yes, good job". "Support our fellow admins". "Get rid of the vandal". etc. Sometimes I think that these people don't have brains. They just go around with a brain sucker sitting on their heads telling them what to do, and they all work as one being.

I find it funny anyway.

You should have seen the personal attacks that I got from the other 3 articles I nominated for undeletion. Oh no. Its like the worst possible thing that you can do to suggest that an admin did something wrong - ESPECIALLY if there's proof that they did! Oh man I got a talk page full of abuse from those 3. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 23:45, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Interstate 76 (east)

Could you please not remove the templates from that page? Per the WikiProject standards, they are supposed to be on the Interstate pages. If you have a problem with this, please take it to the WP talk page. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 01:13, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

If you don't believe in the sections then could you discuss it at least? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 01:19, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

On either the WP talk page or the article talk page... --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 01:26, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Interstate 76 (east) I'll explain why in a bit... --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 01:42, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Daniel Brandt

Please read the talk page. Thanks! .:.Jareth.:. 02:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I tried reverting without using rollback but for some reason even from the older version of the redirect it wouldn't bring it up in the edit page. Honestly, try checking out the talk page for the discussion. .:.Jareth.:. 02:46, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

The merging was in the process of being done, and now the revert war may mean it is not done. Titoxd 02:47, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Then discuss it on the talk page -- and Tito, it might help if you did that as well so people understood what was going on. .:.Jareth.:. 02:49, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Overseas Highway edit. Why?

Why did you remove the {{flsr|5}} from Overseas Highway? It looked fine to me. --rogerd 02:39, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

infobox

Stop editing for 3 minutes and I'll have it fixed for you. You're interupting me and screwing it up. -- Netoholic @ 20:00, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

I could have addressed your default image size problem but, since you've decided to be a prick rather than accept my help, I'll let you be. Don't ask for help fixing your pet template if you're not going to let people work on it. -- Netoholic @ 20:09, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Not really. -- Netoholic @ 20:13, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Inflammatory comments

No more edits like this - mmmkay? Raul654 20:02, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Delaware, New Jersey

I had realized the edit was likely incorrect after the fact, but then I couldn't figure out what page I had edited. My apologies. Adding the Delaware in Warren County, New Jersey to the dab will help remind me that there is one other Delaware in New Jersey. Kudos again on all of your work on NJ's highways. Alansohn 00:10, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Uhhh

I'll just pretend that I didn't see anything on your user page and talk page. I came over here because I was wondering what came over you to create Evesboro (NJ) and then mark it for speedy deletion with the reason "dick"? enochlau (talk) 08:47, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Articles Needing Attention

Hi! I'm going through the articles in need of attention page and removing any user pages I see. Let's face it-no one knows as much about the user as the user themself! The pages needing attention tag is best reserved for articles that others may know about. In other words, the tag is best used on articles. As for your user page, looks ok to me! I hope you enjoy Misplaced Pages! KC. 18:23, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Template:UK A

Hi, two templates you created - {{UK A}} and {{UK B}} are up for deletion, your comments are welcome at: Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion#Template:UK A. Thanks/wangi 11:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Bradenton Soccer Academy * Class

Whoops! I didn't realize __NOTOC__ would have that effect on the whole page. So sorry for the trouble I've caused. —Keenan Pepper 23:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:NYC Hudson River crossings

Template:NYC Hudson River crossings has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion#Template:NYC Hudson River crossings. Thank you. --Chris 16:35, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Bridges (again)

I'm hoping we can reach some sort of agreement about how bridges can be categorized. The discussion has been going on and on at Misplaced Pages:Categorization and recently at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Bridges. We last discussed this at User_talk:SPUI/random_road_stuff_archive#Bridges. I see you've recently moved all the NYC toll bridges out of Category:Bridges in New York City. I want to move them all back, but before I do, I want to discuss this with you.

As I see it, the category hierarchy of toll bridges and the categoroy hierarchy of bridges by location serve different functions for different users. People interested primarily in bridges as structures (I put myself in this category) will be more likely to be using the bridges by location hierarchy. People more interested in using bridges as a means of transportation (I put you in this category) will more likely be interested in the hierarchy of toll bridges. I find it a bother to have to look at the toll bridges to see all the bridges in a specific location. While the discussion about category duplication is still going on, I'd like to propose a temporary and perhaps permanent solution to our disagreement:

I'd like to remove ALL toll bridge categories as subcategories of bridges by location. They would be totally separate hierarchies. Instead, I will manually add links between all the hierarchies. So the GW bridge will be in both Category:Bridges in New York City and Category:Toll bridges in New York City. Toll bridges in NYC will not be a subcategory of Bridges in NYC. Instead in the toll bridge category there will be the comment:

For ALL the bridges in New York City see: Category:Bridges in New York City

In the bridge category there will be the comment:

For JUST the toll bridges in New York City see: Category:Toll bridges in New York City

No duplications. Does this work for you? -- Samuel Wantman 01:49, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm trying to work this out with you. Can you say anything more than "seems like a bad idea?" Why? any other ideas how we can coexist? I find separating out briges because they are toll bridges to be a very bad idea. -- Samuel Wantman 01:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

How about deleting the toll bridges cat and putting all of its members in the parents? This would of course involve three separate categories - toll bridges in New York, bridges in NYC and toll roads in NYC (if the latter exists). Having articles in both a category and its parent is just bad for maintenance. You argument could be easily extended - what if someone wants to know about bridges in the U.S. in general? Should we not put all those bridges in Category:Bridges in the United States? --SPUI (talk | don't use sorted stub templates!) 02:02, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm not following you. What is it you are proposing? My proposed solution above does not have articles in a category and its parent because the toll bridges would no longer be a subcategory of the bridges by location. They would just be manually linked. This should make it clear to anyone doing maint.

BTW, I'm all for hierarchies and having useful subcategories in hierarchies. But just because two hierarchies are related, and one happens to be a subset of the other, that shouldn't mean that the duplication rule should hold. If there isn't subcategories for all members of a category, and the subcategory is not related to the organization of the hierarchy (it is by location, not by toll), and some siblings only belong in the parent, then I think all the siblings should be listed. Otherwise it is awkward and confusing. -- Samuel Wantman 02:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually it would not be at all obvious - if I am editing a page and see at the bottom Category:A and Category:A in B, I will assume A in B is a subcategory of A and remove A. --SPUI (talk | don't use sorted stub templates!) 02:20, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

You forgot about this and didn't notice a problem for nine months. I always check to see how categories are related before removing them, and I hope others do as well. It is mostly you and I and perhaps cacophony and a few others who notice these things. I'm certainly going to be watching an notice when things get changed. That is what happened this time. The category world at Misplaced Pages is imperfect. I'm trying to straighten some of this out so it makes more sense for users. Have you read the recent conversations about this at Misplaced Pages:Categorization? The reality is that there is no norm and duplications happen all the time. Unless we make it clear when duplications make sense, or come up with some other solution (like the links I propose above), this problem will continue to suck huge amounts of time from those of us who categorize. -- Samuel Wantman 03:02, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I am also in support of the duplicate categorization for bridges by location. The real value of Category:Bridges in New York is being able to see all the bridges in New York in one page and subcategories muddy the water. I would say that Cat:Bridges in the United States is too broad, and that is better suited as a list of bridges in the United States. I would also argue that Cat:Toll bridges in NYC is too specific. My experiences with Misplaced Pages is that, generally, templates work best for identifying groups of 3-20 articles, categories work best for 20-100 articles, and lists work best for 100+ articles. But of course, the breadth of topics on Misplaced Pages makes it impossible for one standard to apply across the board. These things are going to have to be discussed subject by subject. Cacophony 04:18, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Dick

Quote: Please don't be a dick.

The subject "you" is understood because this is a command. Throw out the "please" and it becomes "You don't be a dick." It implies that I am. Please a) increase your vocabulary and b) don't use profanity such as "dick" and comment on content, not the contributor. As much as you can try to make excuses they won't fly with me. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:35, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

So being a dick isn't a personal attack and being a WikiNazi is? (I was called the latter and it was considered a personal attack.) --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:51, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

You've called 3 people dicks. None of them have accepted your phrase. That phrase is "generally accepted"? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I am not being a dick here. I will continue to revert "Don't be a dick" until I get tired of it, then if you really want it on my talk page you must want it as evidence or something. Considering that none of the other users involved have responded to me with similar comments, I do not believe I am being a dick. Since you won't admit the PA, there really is not much to discuss right here. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 07:13, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Anti {{StUBS-Tht looklike THESE-stub}} petition

User:Karmafist/Stub Petition. Oh, and if you'd like me to help you bury the hatchet with a large number of the people at the top of the page, please let me know. Trust me, whatever you might think, they're not bad at all IMO, and not bad at all compared to the real obnoxious people around here(the stub people, the revert warriors, the sewer mutants, etc.) It was probably just a misundering of your unique approach to Misplaced Pages.karmafist 08:02, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

"being bold and redirecting to something better than "borrring""

hehe --Mistress Selina Kyle 15:26, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Regarding stubs

SPUI,

I've done some low level work with the stub sorting project, mostly just sorting out category {{stub}} in to other categories. I really do believe that the categories will encourage editors to expand the stubs to fuller articles. I try not to be to involved with the politics of the stub sorting project much though, there probally is room for improvement. I respect your choice to not use stub categories, but am glad that you will still mark stub articles as stubs at all, even if using the generic stub category. The debate over the stub types and their management is getting pretty heated, and the last thing we need is angry editors, on either side; afterall we are all trying to build a better encyclopedia.

I am writing to you today to ask you to consider changing your signature advocating the non-use of stub categories. It seems that you think that the categories may be useful, although you don't like their management, however I don't think you were in favor of removing all of the categories. If someone is familiar with, or wants to become familiar with, the stub categoreis, using them saves editing time of stub sorters, freeing them up for actual editing; if they are not then they will be using stub anyway.

Hopefully this has not come off as argumentitive, I'm trying to be civil in this, and won't pursue this further then this thread.

Thanks for your time, xaosflux /_CVU 18:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC) If replying here, please drop me a short note on my talk page to come check, my watchlist is rather full.

Happy Crimbo!

Have a Proper and Merry Crimbo. File:Pressie.gif, in fact here is a pressie from the Doctor to you. Ho. Ho. Ho! File:Unclecrimbo.gif Dr. McCrimbo 22:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

MFD

Stop reopening a closed discussion. If you have any problems with my decision, open a deletion review. You are in danger of violating the three revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. Titoxd 02:03, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

SFD considered harmful?

SPUI, I appreciate the fact that you've brought this subject to a central discussion on the village pump. Even though I disagree with your proposals, it may well turn out that consensus supports them. However, in the meantime you should realize that bypassing your own discussion thread to create a dozen template redirects that you knew in advance many people would disagree with, is disruption to make a point. As such, I've blocked you for 24 hours; please don't do that again, and use the various discussion processes instead. Radiant_>|< 03:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Lowery Hill Tunnel

First of all, you dont have to be a jackass, and when your wrong, it makes you look stupid. The specified directions in the contents of this caption are proper nouns, which means they are capitalized. Second of all, two directions separated by a slash, such as North/West, means North by West, or Northwest. In this caption, i was convenying that, although i was traveling North, i was in the West bound lane of interstate 94. So, that is the difference i was trying to convey. I dont want to get into an editing war over something as stupid as this, so please dont change something which you have absolutly no knowledge about. Thank you.--Gephart 07:10, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Deletion of "Pittsburgh Interstates" Infobox

You claim it is unneccessary? Why may I ask? Seems to me that it is extremely useful information, unless of course we are limiting that type of knowledge on wiki. Please explain your reasoning, I am honestly curious why A) I am breaking a policy of wiki or B) the vast majority would rather not see that information on local interstate spurs. Thank you in advance. Hholt01 08:09, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Pittsburgh Interstates followup

SPUI, thanks for the response, my original idea was a general lightrail/port/air/auto infobox, though the port and lightrail was not as detailed at the time to link to. In the coming weeks I'll see if I can put it back to its original form with expanded lightrail & port, possibly airport. If you have any suggestions I'd love the input over at the template:Pittsburgh_Transportation page. I will agree with you that in it's current form it is not "complete" so I'll hold off adding it back to the pages until it is filled out some more. Thanks for the input. Hholt01 08:30, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

out of curiosity

Just out of curiosity I was wondering why you added me to your list of trolls. If there's something that I did I'd be interested to know what it is. If you'd rather not tell me on wiki I assume you know how to find me on IRC. Jtkiefer ---- 05:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Milestone image

Thanks, man. By the way, I've never actually been in Rhode Island. Neutrality 05:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

oops

Sorry about that, you're unblocked. -- Curps 10:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I'll prevent it from blocking you again tonight. In general though a fast rate of moving is one of the triggers. -- Curps 10:07, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Interstate 76 (east)

Greetings from Mediation Cabalist, Steven McCrary, I hope this message finds you well.

1. I have posted a response to request for mediation at Misplaced Pages:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/29_12_2005_Interstate_76_(east), and respectfully request that you read and then respond to any relevant issue that I may have overlooked, as appropriate.
2. I am issuing a warning to you regarding violation of Misplaced Pages policy on edit wars. Please be aware of the policy.

Thanks and Happy New Year, Steven McCrary 15:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Hello again SPUI, Thanks for your considered response. I share your frustration with some of Misplaced Pages's policy. But, if needed, get involved with changing the template, if possible. I also notice that you are a fan of the f*** word. I hope it serves you well, but I generally find such words fail to accurately communicate our real meaning, since their meaning need disambiguation. I posted another response to your concern on the Mediation Cabal page. Good luck. Steven McCrary 17:17, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Page moves

Hey, I saw the note on AN/I about the page move block, but what I noticed more was that you've done a lot of important and often thankless work, and nobody's thanked you! Since I know your userpage was once a barnstar-free zone, I won't leave one here (feel free to pick out the one of your choice if you'd like) but I will leave a heartfelt "Thank you" for doing such tiring work. Good job! -- Essjay · Talk 01:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Seconded. You can be a bit of an odd duck, but you do good work.--Sean|Black 07:07, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, a very odd duck indeed! --TantalumTelluride 02:40, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

NJ S-5

Thanks for the note. The e-mail on the bergenroads site is indeed dead; I'm surprised the site is still there as I've been off AOL since May. I need to do some revisions and post it elsewhere.

The way it looks on the map on Jimmy & Sharon Williams' site, and it's tough to tell thanks to resolution, 1 was to follow the current US 46 to Fort Lee, then head down 4 to Englewood (current junction of 4 and 93?) and follow current 501 to the state line (and presumably become NY 340, as 501 does). Except that 6 does something different on this map. Instead of running through Palisades Park the way it was eventually built, it was out along NJ 93 and then followed Fort Lee Road (Bergen CR 56) to Fort Lee. As you noted, S-5 on this map looks like it runs along the existing 1, whereas 1 took Shaler Blvd (CR 31) into Palisades Park and then picked up the current US 46. (Bergen Blvd, 63, is a separate highway.)

It does appear that 5/6 would use old 10 (current CR 124) to get from Ridgefield Park to Grand Ave, originally on Edgewater Ave and eventually on Hendricks Causeway over the new bridge.

I might be over the Hendricks Causeway bridge tomorrow, but I believe it's been rebuilt and so there would be no markings. That US 1/9 / CR 50/124 mess has been reconfigured in the last couple years into a signalized interchange rather than the disaster of a traffic circle it used to be.

Why the legislature had S-5 crossing the Northern Railroad is beyond me. Perhaps they meant to say it would connect with 5 at the overpass of the Northern Railroad. There almost can't be a through S-5; it would end at 5. Then again, this is the New Jersey legislature we're talking about.

Happy New Year! BTW, you can check out http://mysite.verizon.net/charliez/ for the rest of my site. CharlieZeb 23:09, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Hilarious

Just wanted to say your userpage is hilarious. I laughed quite a bit. Cheers, and Happy New Year! --Fang Aili 00:22, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Bash

Bash is, and has always been, an exemption from that. What you did, on the other hand, was the precise reason the policy exists in the first place. Ambi 06:47, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Ducks in a Pram day

I have endorsed Ducks in a Pram Day, and as the only recently departed Admin General of Esperanza, I suggest you be in charge of establishing the customs by which we should celebrate it. So, given that it is today, what shall we do? Oh, and Happy Ducks in a Pram Day! -- Essjay · Talk 03:50, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Top marks!

just saw your posting to the talk page of a certain RFC. There is no conflict so great that ducks in a pram cannot calm it. --GraemeL 03:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Back Door Sluts 9

After a review of my action of blocking User:Gazpacho, I've unblocked the account. It was my mistake, but it did look highly suspect with no further information added and the redirection being re-created to redirect to differing articles each time. Thanks for the heads up. -- Longhair 07:24, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

IRC block

Were you blocked from any Wikimedia IRC channels by Ambi in regards to the Kelly Martin situation? Inquiring minds want to know. Kaldari 21:09, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but do you know who banned you? Kaldari 21:26, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Please stop doing things that would prevent you from becoming something better on Misplaced Pages. Whatever that banner is at the top of you talk page needs to be reverted. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 23:21, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

It is amazing that you didn't respond to the barnstar, but responded to this. Anyway, cheers! See you later - I wasn't going to change it or anything : ) εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 23:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

If it makes you feel better, I am not a censor : ) εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 23:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Are you there? εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 23:52, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

No reason to get upset. I replaced your edits to my page, I won't come back here. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 00:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Kelly Martin

Sorry for the confusion, you managed to edit in the middle of a complex page history split/merge. I see you already repeated the edits; sorry for making you do them twice. --cesarb 23:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

My recommendations on the RFC

I'm not in the habit of commenting on other people's votes, but I'll make an exception. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough, but "there is a large number of editors who disagree" is meant to mean that there's no consensus for doing things that way. Doesn't that automatically make it a Bad Thing? Zocky 02:14, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Bah

Thou art sorely lacking in a sense of humour, young man. Wahkeenah 06:43, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Nah, I just have a different one than you, old man. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 06:44, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... given the "uncensored" nature of your page (although I am hard pressed to find anything "objectionable" other than the "F-word" - it's almost "false advertising" on your part) I shudder to think what the purpose of the sheep is. >:( Wahkeenah 06:50, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Certainly not to form part of a pun. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 06:52, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Aha. I should have known you aren't into sheep humor. It was shear folly on my part. Wahkeenah 06:56, 5 January 2006 (UTC) P.S. Where's the uncensored stuff?

Since when are puns humor? The uncensored stuff is here and here. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 06:58, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

There ya go. Wahkeenah 07:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

userbox purge

We can help each other get this template back. I made a backup of every single userbox on wikipedia just in case another admin decided they were above the law. Here is the code....

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Interstate 73

Vast improvement. On behalf of our state, thanks. BTW, knowing your love of details, I recently caught wind (in a VDOT publication) of a State Highway numbered 785 in Danville which is supposedly numbered as part of a future Interstate scheme. Assuming the numbering scheme is consistent with VA interstate highways, this is the first I had heard of anything related to potential expansion of the I-85 corridor and spurs, etc. in Virginia. That area is outside of the eastern regions of the state I attempt to follow more closely. Mark Vaoverland 00:25, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Interstate 785

Thanks. I should have known you would already be on it. You never cease to amaze me. Mark Vaoverland 00:44, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

page moves

Do you really have to move pages that fast (more than 47 per minute)? -- Curps 17:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's easier to go through in one go, as I can copy-paste the summary. Please unblock the IP autoblocks. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 17:05, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

OK. However, you had more than one IP autoblock... is that your ISP using multiple proxies? Can you clarify exactly how you're doing the moves so that they wind up being simultaneous... how does the tabbed browser do that? -- Curps 17:11, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea about the several autoblocks - I have one fixed IP. As for the moves, I went through the tabs and pasted the summaries, then went back to the first, double clicked Highway, pasted Route, and hit enter, and did the same for each tab. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 17:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

So you go from one tab to the next clicking Enter, one by one? You're not pressing one button and the browser somehow submits everything simultaneously... you need to manually click to each tab and hit Enter in each one? And doing this, you manage to reach a speed of 70 moves per minute?? -- Curps 17:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes - it's ctrl-tab to the next tab, double click on Highway (always in the same place), ctrl-V to paste, and enter to submit. After a few of them it takes less than a second each. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 17:46, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm trying to visualize the finger and hand movements described above (especially the double click) and I have trouble picturing how you could do it manually without a macro, 70–80 times in a row at a rate under one per second. It's not a race against time after all. -- Curps 18:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Right hand on the mouse, left hand on the left side of the keyboard. Right hand moves off the mouse to hit the numpad enter. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 18:15, 6 January 2006 (UTC)