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		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For working on an article that you felt shouldn't even exist and helping to bring it up, even if temporarily, to encyclopedic standards. Nableezy (talk) 18:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

		The Jewish Barnstar
		For editing the page Jerusalem stone.Elan26 (talk) 20:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)Elan26

Template:Bagel of Zion

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		I hereby award you The Photographer's Barnstar for the beautiful photos of Israel and Jewish stuff you have taken and graced Misplaced Pages with! I had noticed your contrbution way back in July 2007! The one of the Dome of the Rock viewed through the Cotton Merchants Gate (right) is my favourite! Happy snapping! Chesdovi (talk) 02:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		For your work on Hat, I hereby award you this barnstar. →Wordbuilder (talk) 17:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		This award is given to User:Gilabrand in recognition of all your imaginative and original photographs related to topics about Israel and Judaism, as can be seen on your user page. In particular, I was impressed by how many of these photographs enhance so many articles about people, places and things in Israel. Mazal Tov and may you be blessed to continue contributing to Misplaced Pages in this productive fashion for a long time to come. See Misplaced Pages:Barnstars: "The da Vinci Barnstar may be awarded to anyone who has enhanced Misplaced Pages through their technical work..." and you most certainly deserve it. Sincerely, IZAK (talk) 04:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		I was going to give you the copyeditor's barnstar, but I then realized that would be shortchanging your many other valuable contributions to and helping out with Israel and Judaism related articles. Much appreciated! nadav (talk) 07:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For all your quality contributions to Israel-related articles, you fully deserve this. пﮟოьεԻ 57 20:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

		The Exceptional Newcomer Award
		i frummer give you this award for all the great work you've put into many judaism, jewish and israel relates articles, all the while steering clear of controversy! ..thnx Gila!

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For the excellent editting and formatting that helped lead to Israel's promotion to featured article status. --Jdcaust 16:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

		The Jewish Barnstar
		I award you with this Jewish Barnstar Award for your helping keep the Judaism article up to standards. Keep up Your Good Work! Nimrauko 23:50, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		I was going to give you the copyeditor's barnstar, but I then realized that would be shortchanging your many other valuable contributions to and helping out with Israel and Judaism related articles. Much appreciated! nadav (talk) 07:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Umm Tuba

What would you think of moving Umm Tuba to Umm Tuba/Netofa, since the identity of Umm Tuba as the Biblical town of Netofa is established.Historicist (talk) 01:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I think Arab editors would go haywire. The information about Netofa belongs in a history section, and I have organized the material accordingly. To balance the article, more info on Umm Tuba today needs to be added.--Gilabrand (talk) 07:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Nazi, Swastika References Being Purged from Syrian Social Nationalist Party

Would you mind having a look at the problem of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party's Nazi history and swastika flag being systematically deleted/vandalized? This removes an important aspect of neutrality from the article. References from many reliable sources are provided. See its talk page. The edits are being done by users with IP addresses from very similar domains. Thanks, Histopher Critchens (talk) 20:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Chill

There was an ongoing dispute regarding the title in the talk section. You unilaterally changed the title without a consensus, so my revert was justified. I wasn't trying to be "snooty." Wikifan12345 (talk) 06:23, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

discuss disputed edits

please do on the talk page, there is an ongoing AfD and you are unilaterally trying to change the scope of the article. please provide justification. Nableezy (talk) 20:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Sholom Schwadron

Re your recent edits: You should know that it's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. Yoninah (talk) 16:51, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't get the connection.--Gilabrand (talk) 20:24, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Edits to Jaffa–Jerusalem railway

Hi Gilabrand! Please explain why you changed some sourced material in the article (for example, that there was an earlier railway track in Iran), and a lot of other unsourced but valid material, from the article Jaffa–Jerusalem railway. You also made a number of edits that clearly contradict WP:MOS and other related policies and guidelines (e.g. putting External links under references, even though they are not references for the article, and removing the hatnote). I will try to find sources for the unsourced text as soon as possible, but plan to revert most if not all of your edits. -- Ynhockey 21:58, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

The article is problematic. It is supposedly about the historic railway and then veers off into the train of today which is not known as the "Jaffa Jerusalem railway." There is no reason for that Iran comparison to be in the lead (and it was not "Iran" at the time either, but Persia). I don't know what MOS is, but the article is definitely more comprehensible and encyclopedic now. It was a mess. If your interest is in improving articles, I would think carefully before you revert. You have now restored the article to gibberish with many spelling mistakes. Best, Gila--Gilabrand (talk) 03:52, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Gilabrand, please don't edit-war and decide for yourself what section to keep and what to delete. The article is about both the historical line, and the modern line using the same route. You have removed a lot of valuable information, much of it sourced, and have introduced a number of falsehoods into the article (indeed, if you have the book by Paul Cotterell, you will notice that it does not say that it was the first railway in the Middle East, but the first except a short section in Iran). Correcting spelling and grammar mistakes, if you find any, is a noble and productive deed, but removing long paragraphs because WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not. You have also completely ruined the article as far as WP:MOS goes, and it will take ages just to fix the mess you have created, and this is precisely why I decided to blanket-revert (because you edited all sections, it's impossible to undo particular edits). If you don't have time to read WP:MOS and its derivatives, including WP:DASH, perhaps it is best if you suspend your activities on Misplaced Pages until you have the time to read them. I am now in the process of looking for more sources for the article, and will again revert your edits and start from there once I find sources to back up the statements that were not sourced. -- Ynhockey 23:07, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

You are the one who has introduced unsourced information - read the rules. Unsourced information can be deleted at any time. There are other sources that I have brought - Ruth Kark, for example, who is an expert in the period - and your blanket reverts are thus erasing reliably sourced information - so think before you act. Blanket reversion is unacceptable. Misplaced Pages is not your private project, and nobody has to wait around until YOU find sources. Technical issues like it being hard for you to delete only what you want because you have no time is not a reason for blanket reversion. Oh, and the Kark book & Jerusalem Post article both state that the railway was the first in the Middle East. --Gilabrand (talk) 04:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

First of all, please remember to remain civil and assume good faith. Edit summaries such as this are not likely to contribute to a constructive and collaborative effort. Also, WP:BRD suggests you should seek consensus before reverting back. I would also suggest making gradual, section-by-section edits, so that the dispute is easier to outline.

If two sources disagree on whether or not it was actually the first railroad in the Middle East, there's no reason why both opinions should not be reflected in the article. The dispute on whether or not information regarding the current line should be included can also be resolved by discussion, and Unhockey is a very reasonable editor. As is often the case, perhaps working on a draft may help. Again, everybody should try and remain calm and in a constructive state of mind. Cheers, Nudve (talk) 05:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, I agree about the edit summary. I shouldn't have written that. It was just so maddening to have all my work gone in the blink of an eye. But I don't think I need anyone's permission to edit articles on Misplaced Pages that are aimed at improving a confusing article in which everything has been thrown in but the kitchen sink.--Gilabrand (talk) 06:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Gilabrand, please at least try to format your edits properly, such as consolidating refs and using the citation templates, adding proper spacing and dashes, adding proper punctuation, etc. It is improper to expect other editors (or bots) to do this for you, and editors who are in dispute with you should not be forced to do the maintenance work in addition to the editorial work. Proper formatting is easy to do for the original editor/author, but very time-consuming for subsequent editors. -- Ynhockey 08:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Gilabrand! I certainly agree that we are on the same side and can, and should, work together. I was extremely discouraged by your earlier edits (together with the edit summaries), which removed a lot of content that took me a while to write (most of the unsourced content was translated from HeWiki, which also took a lot of time and effort), and this is the reason for my comments. I definitely want to work together with you and convert the article (and others) into something better for the benefit of all. Cheers, Ynhockey 20:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

P.S. If you are actually interested in this railway, I can recommend watching a series of 4 YouTube videos I uploaded last year, containing a lecture by Prof. Tony Travis about the railway. Mr. Travis is one of the foremost railway enthusiasts in Israel (along with Chen Melling), an expert on its history, and recently wrote a book called On Chariots with Horses of Fire and Iron (you linked to the review by Sybil Ehrlich, whom I also know and who is present in the room in those videos). Cheers, Ynhockey 23:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Tomato

I suggest you actually read the references. The two Google books ones, at least, completely and fully support what is being said in the article. Please do not revert again unless you can actually prove that those references do not support the text. //roux   10:41, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Artuf

Hi Gliabrand, I was just wondering if you have a source for this edit. Let me know when you get a chance. Thanks, Nableezy (talk) 04:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Jerusalem Light Rail

Please have a look seeing you were involved in the article. a POV issue involving a user meteormaker. 216.165.95.70 (talk) 19:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

J & J

Hi Gilabrand! Please stop undermining this name because you don't like it. It is not my fault that you do not have literature on the Jaffa–Jerusalem railway, and can actually send you some if you are interested. You will notice that the late Paul Cotterell, probably the #1 railways expert in Israel, uses this name extensively. It can also be seen on the coach on the main picture on the page, and Anthony Travis notes that J. J. or J & J were used on locomotives, coaches and even the actual rails on the original railway. --Ynhockey 21:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with "not liking it" or the number of books in one's home library. The use of this abbreviation - and all statements in encyclopedic articles - need a reference. I have edited and translated several academic books and articles on the infrastructure of Mandatory Palestine and have never come across this abbreviation. If you have a reference, please cite it.--Gilabrand (talk) 04:31, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

You don't need someone to say 'Jaffa-Jerusalem railway is abbreviated to J&J' on order to write 'sometimes abbreviated to J&J'. What you do need is a series of sources confirming that it has indeed been called J&J by notable figures. Again, Paul Cotterell calls it J&J, and Anthony Travis notes that the abbreviation J.J. (essentially the same thing) was present on the coaches and even the rails themselves. I hate to be repeating this, but I will repeat it again if it is not enough for you. What exactly are you looking for? Just because you don't know something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. —Ynhockey 21:32, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

And I will repeat yet again that what you need is an inline citation, not your observations from looking at a photo. Don't tell ME that Cotterell uses it - add a reference to the article. Sorry, but I don't get what the problem is. You've been on Misplaced Pages long enough to know that yourself. True, Hebrew Misplaced Pages is lax on this point, but the English Misplaced Pages has higher standards. And please note that it says JJ on the train car, not J&J. --Gilabrand (talk) 04:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

No, you don't need an inline citation for something like that, again, because there isn't a source saying that it is 'sometimes abbreviated to X'. It is just used in numerous sources, which is enough to make such an assertion. I can give them to you here:

1. Travis (2009), p. 35 – notes the usage of J.J. on the rails
2. This photograph, where "J.J" is used
3. HaRakevet Issue 6, p. 11 (and others) – by Paul Cotterell
4. Cotterell (1986), p. 7 (and others) – by Paul Cotterell

Again, I consider J.J. and J&J to be the same thing, and don't really care if it's changed to one or the other. —Ynhockey 11:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Follow-up: I have noticed that you added a source, and have added the above to the article as well. However, this might work against the article on GAR, while I hope to start after finishing writing the content, and may have to be removed. —Ynhockey 11:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Removal of images from Yom Ha'atzmaut

Hi Gilabrand. Regarding your removal of two images from the article Yom Ha'atzmaut, I think we need to take into consideration that as thumbnails they are alright. Also, their function there is to illustrate the event. Though the fireworks look "nice" I think more than this image is required to illustrate Yom Ha'atzmaut in Israel. Full disclosure: one of the images was a picture I took. The picture is taken as an action shot as myself and this group of girls are under attack by shaving cream and silly string, a minhag of Yom Ha'atzmaut in Israel; the picture, though perhaps not of the highest quality, illustrates the "festive chaos" with which Israelis celebrate the holiday. Therefore I wish to give you this heads up that I am about to replace these images on to the page, though perhaps move them around. If you still disagree please feel free to discuss either here or on my talkpage (though please give me a talkback for the former so I know to check). Thanks, Valley2city 07:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree that more images are needed, but it is very hard to see any silly string or shaving cream in the photo you added. On my screen it just looks like a dark yellow-brown blur. The tank photo is also not up to par for an article of such importance. I am sure better ones can be found (or taken this Yom Haatzamut). And for the record, shaving cream and silly string are newfangled inventions (in the good old days, plastic hammers were all the rage, but maybe you are too young to remember that...LOL) --Gilabrand (talk) 07:53, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

People were definitely being beaten mercilessly by those plastic and rubber mallets on Ben Yehuda Street. The blur on the bottom left of the camera lens is shaving cream. If we can find better ones, we should replace, but until that point this is all we have. I'll take a look through my collection of other pictures as well. Best, Valley2city 17:16, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

colourinthemeaning

this user comes to every page of a neighborhood of jerusalem and changes the lead sentence. is there anything you can do to contribut from your past history. thank you. 216.165.95.70 (talk) 10:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

This user goes around "editing" articles with a single purpose - to introduce his/her anti-Israel POV. Unfortunately, Misplaced Pages is a breeding grounds for "editors" with brains smaller than a pea (if they have one at all) If you figure out a way to get him/her blocked, I will give you a medal.--Gilabrand (talk) 11:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC).

Jerusalem Light Rail Sources

G'day, just wondering which particular source(s) dont specify what is said in the article Jerusalem Light Rail? Colourinthemeaning (talk) 13:43, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Formatting references

Hi Gilabrand! I have noticed that you have been adding many references to Misplaced Pages by copy&pasting them whenever they are needed. Please note that our referencing system allows using the same reference several times in an article by just adding it one time. Here is how it's done:

1. Firstly, you add a references, like so:

<ref></ref>

2. Secondly, you add a name to the reference, like so (you can pick any name):

<ref name="haaretz"></ref>

3. Finally, you add any subsequent references in short form, referencing the original name, like so:

<ref name="haaretz" />

Doing this will require changing only one reference if a change is needed, and also reduces clutter from the references section and makes it easier to see where each ref is used.

Happy editing! —Ynhockey 22:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Hat

Hi. I've reverted your edit on Hat. I agree that it sounds like it's from the Janet and John guide to hats, but it is sourced, and it is normally considered better practice to put a question on the talk page before chopping out a whole section like that. Elen of the Roads (talk) 18:47, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Noabaak (talk) 02:36, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi, my name is Noa and I would like to ask your permission to use Sabbat dinner photographs for the upcoming book of New York Guide in Korea(with your name on credit, of course). Not being an expert on Wiki, I still do not know if this is the right way to do. Thanks.

Which photo did you mean? I can send you the full resolution photo if you let me know which one. Best, --Gilabrand (talk) 03:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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Help, please

I'm new to this, but after a recent trip to Tel Aviv I decided to add some material about a group of artists I like. One of then is Ze'ev Raban. I see that you wrote about him on the Bikkur Cholim web page. I put up a photo of the doors. I prefer not to use my own name, so I decided to sign myself Z.Raban. Now someone is accusing me of being Ze'ev Raban and editing my own page. Raban has been dead for like, decades. Is it not allowed to write under the name of a dead artist whom one admires? I'll stop, if I'm violating some kind of rule, but at present I feel rather unjustly attacked.Z.Raban (talk) 19:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

You may find the discussion on my talk page. Wuhwuzdat (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

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Zion Square refrigerator bombing

Nice to see incidents that pre-date Misplaced Pages getting pages. Kol hakavod.Historicist (talk) 22:58, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing and taking the time to write.--Gilabrand (talk) 03:44, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Hat

Why did you edit my User page? --Cmaric (talk) 10:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Your comment on Talk:Za'atar

Hello,

While I can appreciate that dealing with trolls and miscreants is stressful, it's not cool to start throwing personal attacks around. If you're having trouble with someone, bring it up at the administrators' noticeboard for incidents or wikiquette alerts. I'm going to try and iron out this situation.

Thanks, -- Earle Martin 12:49, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You are right, but this so called editor has been going around leaving racist remarks on a variety of pages and everyone is bending over backwards to appease him/her. After calling a whole country "disgusting" I wonder where he/she gets off playing insulted by a little criticism.--Gilabrand (talk) 12:55, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

If you have issues with an editor's behavior, often the best thing to do first is to raise it at WP:WQA. -- Earle 02:13, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Earle Martin, I find it insulting that you call me troll. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 13:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, trolls are cute. In the olden days, people used to collect them.--Gilabrand (talk) 13:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Wine

Mah Shlomcha, Gilabrand??? I see you were instrumental in greatly expanding the article on the Golan Heights Winery. I have recently added a non-free, fair use, low resolution image of a bottle of their Chardonnay to the article. Israeli wine has really grown the past few years -- perhaps its time to add a section about Israeli wines to articles such as Chardonnay. Anyhow, just a thought... Kol Tov. --Nsaum75 (talk) 10:21, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Gila Almagor article

Am I missing something? Had the website released their text with a suitable license that I've missed? I looked at the website, and didn't see any indication of this - and the website does not cite wikipedia as a source of the information on their page.

Unless the website has released their text under a suitable license for use by Misplaced Pages, this is a copyright violation.

However, if you have information to the contrary, I'd appreciate it. I placed the {{copyvio}} in good faith, but if I was wrong to do so, I'd gladly take any information onboard. I wasn't trying to get the article deleted - I think that the article is needed, but with non-copyrighted text.

I look forward to hearing your rationale! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

If the material is copied from a website, then the thing to do is add a reference to the website - not tag it with a giant box that wipes out the whole article. You'd think it was some grand work of literature that was being lifted or something. If anything, it's a couple of measly semi-literate sentences. I haven't checked, but I just thought the tag was an overreaction, that's all. --Gilabrand (talk) 13:27, 28 July 2009 (UTC) I've had a look and can't find this text in any of the mentioned websites. So what exactly is it a copy violation of? --Gilabrand (talk) 13:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The text wasn't from any of the mentioned websites. As I noted on the copyvio notice, the text is from this website -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Incidently, it wasn't just a sentence or two - it was (iirc) the entire article with the exception of a sentence or two. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for rewriting the article - it looks a lot better now! I'm not very good at rewriting articles - I can find references online (which is how I came across the article, as it was unreferenced), and one of the first checks I do is make sure that the article isn't just copying from a website wholesale! If it's just a section or two, I only blank out those sections with the copyvio. As I said before, I felt that she needed an article - there were enough mentions online - hence why I put the copyvio up rather than a request for deletion! Again, thanks for your help with this article. Happy editing! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

"Refs needed" advice

Hi,

I notice that you've been tagging articles as unreferenced, which is great!

However, may I suggest that instead of using {{unref}} you use {{unref|date=Month Year}} (e.g. {{unref|date=July 2009}}).

Lists are kept of unreferenced articles (i.e. those tagged with unref), and there is one list for each month, and one for all undated ones! I'm going through the undated ones, checking for references where possible - and flagging them with the current date if I can't find any!

The date on the unref is the current month/year, not when the article was created or last edited.

Oh by the way, the lower case d on date is important... if it has an uppercase D, the date isn't included (as I found out!)

Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.--Gilabrand (talk) 15:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Montefiore Windmill

Hi, I've reverted your deletion of "Jaffa Gate Mill" and reinstated Corn mill. The mill was identified as being the Jaffa Gate Mill when I questioned this with the article's creator. The mill is a corn mill because it ground corn (wheat). Flour is what is produced. Mjroots (talk) 11:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Reference provided for alternate name as requested. Mjroots (talk) 11:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

It was not a corn mill. Corn is not the same as wheat. It was not the Jaffa Gate Mill. The person who "created" the article is neither a scholar nor an expert.--Gilabrand (talk) 11:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe User:Epson291 isn't a scholar or an expert, but that doesn't stop him/her from creating articles - "Misplaced Pages, the 💕 that anyone can edit". I came across this article shortly after it had been created and reading the description and the year of construction given, I thought that it may have been the mill described by Coles Finch (a mill expert of his time) as the Jaffa Gate Mill. I asked Epson291 about this and he confirmed it was the same mill. I even pointed you to the confirmation in this edit summary. I provided you with a reference for the alternative name when you requested it, and you removed it yet again. I'm not willing to edit war over this, and have raised the issue at WP:ANI for others to look over this issue. Mjroots (talk) 11:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I am amazed at your overreaction. Anyone can create articles, but not everyone is an authority on the information cited there. Your "alternative" name appears where it should, as part of the anecdotal data provided by Finch. It is not an "official" name that belongs in the lead. This article was very poorly written, containing false information and insufficient references. I have improved it. I don't know what your problem is.--Gilabrand (talk) 12:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Discussion also opened on the article talk page. Mjroots (talk) 12:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:EL

About this edit of your, External links shouldn't include random journalistic opinion pieces (which become out-of-date in a few months). In fact, most of them have already becom out-of-date. Alefbe (talk) 13:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

If you find something useful in those links, cite them as a source, not external link. Alefbe (talk) 14:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Ma'ale Adumim

Hi Gilabrand! Thank you for undoing POV editing in the article Ma'ale Adumim. FYI, we are having a very similar (and relevant) discussion on Talk:Modi'in Illit. —Ynhockey 22:12, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I noted that you've reverted sourced text that I've added to the Ma'ale Adumim page. Please see WP:REVERT for guidelines on when reverting is appropriate ("revert a good faith edit only as a last resort"), and also note that edit-warring is prohibited. You can see discussion on the talk page, and also on the Modi'in Illit talk page and contribute to those discussions if you feel you have new points to make. --Dailycare (talk) 11:06, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Misconduct on Geert Wilders page

You shoul not post an nearly complete political speech on a Misplaced Pages page. Someone with so many awards should know this. NeoRetro (talk) 10:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually it are not just some selected portions of a speech. Misplaced Pages does allow some quotations but no full outtakes of political speeches. This is not a stage. It is absolutely nothing personal (I dont even understand why you would think that). You did not post it using any quotation rules, it was way too long for a quotation and way too long in comparison to the rest of the page. It could also be understood as propaganda to post political messages on Misplaced Pages, especially in this manner. Please keep this in mind. NeoRetro (talk) 15:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Help needed

Greetings, Gila. Could you look at Israeli cuisine? I can't decide whether what is presently happening there is through vandalism or incompetence or something else, but it looks severely damaging. I know you have done much work in building the article. Would appreciate your advice or direct intervention. Thanks! Hertz1888 (talk) 04:53, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Greetings!. The user that edited Israeli cuisine has been editing a number of other food-related articles too. Some of the edits could be considered POV by members of the Wiki community, so its worth us all keeping an eye on them. --Nsaum75 (talk) 06:52, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

While we're at it, 24.36.128.200, who appears to be the same person, also bears watching. Best regards. Hertz1888 (talk) 14:07, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Playing with words in The Band's Visit

I have re-phrased your last edit into "For her role in the movie critics described, Ronit Elkabetz, a French actress born in Beersheba to religious For her role in the movie critics described, Ronit Elkabetz, a French actress born in Beersheba to religious Moroccan Jewish family, as "wonderful...as a kind-hearted lonely heart refusing to wilt in her desert town". This exactly was the critics appraised her for her performance in the movie. In addition, a Wiki reader would have a curiousity info on "two words" bio e.g. being born in Beersheba. Wiki needs our valuable and resposible edits. So, I also would suggest you to concentrate on making that kind of improvements.--Jim Fitzgerald (talk) 18:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

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Moshiko

Hi, Gila. Your edit of 10:24, 3 June 2009 to Jewish_dance#Yemenite_dance added a ref to a bio of Moshiko. I've been unclear on which part of that paragraph is supported by that ref. Did you perhaps intend to add a comment about the role of Moshiko &/or others in popularizing Yemenite dance--or the timing of its popularity--in Israeli folk dancing? --Rich Janis (talk) 11:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rich Janis. I didn't add any references to Moshiko. All I did was copyedit and reorganize the material that was there. I didn't check to see if the references pan out, either. The article was in such bad shape, I just concentrated on a bit of copyediting. If you can add sourced content, that would be great.--Gilabrand (talk) 11:54, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Will do, if I think of something to put there. Still, the edit history, per my first link above, says it's your "add ref" edit--in case seeing it might jog your recall of its purpose. Thanks, --Rich Janis (talk) 12:31, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Givat Shaul

Hi Gila. Why are you disputing the facts in the Givat Shaul article? I've been living here for 4 years. Have you ever been here at all? To check whether the northern section is chareidi, take a look at Rechov Givat Shaul. Take a look at the people walking on the streets (well, sidewalks) and at the synagogues here: Pressburg, Zupnik, Beer Avraham, Biala, Chibat Tzion, Breslov, Chabad, Nachalat Yitzchak, the Moroccan synagogue next to the Beis Yaakov, and many others close by: Babad, Prushim, Ohel Yonathan. Then take a look at the southern part of the neighborhood, the area where Bank Beinleumi is (opposite Angels), roughly the area of Rechov Natronai Gaon, Shraria Gaon, HaIlui, Ben Tzion, Degel Reuven, Rav Reines.... these are all completely Dati Leumi areas, with Merkaz HaRav being the top yeshiva there, as well as Rav Mordechai Eliyahu's shul. The simple fact is that Rechov Givat Shaul, Rechov Ktav Sofer, Rechov Aharon Kotler, Rechov Azriel, are 99% Chareidi (there are a *few* kippah srugah-wearers, but no more than 1%), while areas such as Rechov HaIlui and Natronai Gaon are 95% Dati Leumi (with 5% Dati Leumi). Now, what is your purpose in disputing this? Why are you doubting this? I cannot see why there should be any disagreement about such a simple fact. Would you object to calling Kibbutz Degania an "almost exclusively secular" place, without 'reliable sources'? IMHO, the lack of 'reliable sources' in and of itself not a reason to delete undisputed facts - as long as they are undisputed. Are you actually disputing what is written in the article? On what grounds? --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 13:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Clearly you lack an understanding of what Misplaced Pages is all about. It's not a place to deposit your personal research findings. I have no doubt that some of what you say is correct, but yes, all statements must be backed up, even if you think it's self-evident. If you wrote that Degania was secular without a reference, I would delete that, too. Are you a statistician? What gives you the authority to say something is 5% or 98% or 32%??? Who are you to say there are a "few" wearers of this or that kind of kippah? Begadol, I am not disputing your conclusions, but I am disputing the fact that you are inserting personal observations into an encyclopedia article and parading them as incontestable fact. --Gilabrand (talk) 13:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I have been here a lot longer than you have, and I know exactly what Misplaced Pages is about. You don't have to give me any lessons. Now, to illustrate my point, see this. Precisely according to your guidelines. --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 14:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Payot

Gila, I am unclear as to why you reverted changes on the Payot pages without reading or at least engaging in the discussion page regarding the spelling of the entry. If you have an opinion on the subject, please share it. MeirSimcha 18:13, 31 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meirsimcha (talk • contribs)

This subject was discussed long ago. Payot is a Hebrew word. "Peyos" is the Yiddish pronunciation, derived from the Hebrew. Alternative spellings and pronunciations have been provided in the lead. I have been editing this article for years now, so don't tell me I haven't read the discussion. If anyone hasn't read it, it appears to be you.--Gilabrand (talk) 18:33, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Firstly, I don't see a need to be nasty about it, I don't feel like my question to you was posed in a hostile way and I see no reason to be uncivil in reply. I have read the full discussion (I don't know what indicates to you that I haven't) and requested talk on the discussion page. In light of your years of editing this page, I don't think I need to remind you that Misplaced Pages in general and this page in particular belongs to no one. Secondly, Peyos is not a Yiddish pronunciation by any stretch of the imagination, the Yiddish pronunciation is peyes or payes (depending on dialect). Peyos is a Hebrew word as pronounced in what scholar Benjamin Harshav has termed idealized Ashkenazi Hebrew. Payot is an attempt at a romanization of the Modern Israeli Hebrew pronunciation -- although it seems strange that the romanization schemes for Hebrew in this one case would reflect a tsere-yud as ay. See for example other English language pages that have this combination Betar/Beitar or Zeire. I suggest a change for consistency and bias-free accuracy.

Since this is an article in the English wikipedia, this article should reflect the word as it is said and written most frequently in English and not reflective of an Israeli Hebrew cultural bias that has little effect on the majority English pronunciation or use in English literature. MeirSimcha 20:43, 31 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meirsimcha (talk • contribs)

Gershom Schocken

Thought you may be interested in helping expand this - I've nominated it for a DYK. пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Number 57. I will have a look at it when I get a chance. So what is the factoid you are pushing?--Gilabrand (talk) 13:22, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Just that he was editor for over 50 years. DYK seems to be much less interesting these days. пﮟოьεԻ 57 15:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

place articles

Would you be interested in getting the ball rolling on setting a standard for articles about places? At least with regards to IP related articles? You seem to know your way around here and I think this is a very important subject. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 16:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Nice of you to offer, Nice Guy. If I had all the time in the world, maybe I would, but I play around on Misplaced Pages when I should be doing my job... If there is a specific article you need help with, let me know, but "setting standards" means getting into big fights. I can tell you, there are some mighty nasty characters out there in cyberspace. For the moment, I'm not sure I'm up to it.--Gilabrand (talk) 17:09, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Would you have anyone else in mind who might be willing to pick it up? I'd do it myself but I don't know all the ins and outs of this place yet, and wouldn't want to blow the whole thing because some wikilawyer knew the rules better than me.

Your point about nasty characters is well taken. The formula is anonymity + audience = assholes. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 17:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Names that come to mind are Okedem, YnHockey and Historicist, who have all done good work.--Gilabrand (talk) 18:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Good initiative. IMO, geography articles should have one template/format. --Shuki (talk) 11:28, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment on content, not contributors

• And I ain't your honey, honey. Tiamut 11:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Why not, honeybunch. Honey is good.--Gilabrand (talk) 12:22, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

One day, you will realize how wrong it is for you to be so alternately patronizing and vicious toward people like me. Until then, happy editing. Tiamut 12:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

So let's be friends.--Gilabrand (talk) 13:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

What do you think she meant by "people like me"? No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 15:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Bnei Akiva

I hadn't bothered to notice Piz's deletion, but now that you point it out, I don't mind either. Too much OR and NN info. --Shuki (talk) 11:29, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Piz deleted all that to "make a point," after I deleted his unsourced OR in a different article. He went around chopping up every article he could find that I had ever edited. I take no responsibility for Bnei Akiva, by the way. I just cleaned up some of the mess.--Gilabrand (talk) 11:42, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Edit warring

You and Korny O'Near are also edit warring, so I have protected the article; if edit warring continues, all three of you might get blocked.

Also, considering that you have had other civility issues (above), I should point out that messages like these are not going to do you any favors. rʨanaɢ /_contribs 19:01, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

References

Hi Gila. Following our earlier discussion on this subject on my discussion page, please see the exchange of correspondence, also on my discussion page, under the caption "Avigur". Davshul (talk) 20:05, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Any advice?

Hi Gilabrand!

I have been editing White City (Tel Aviv) the last few days, mostly adding inline references, and noticed you've done some editing on that page. I was wondering if you have any advice on how to expand and improve the article. By the way, good decision here I saw that and was going to revert it too. Shana Tova, DVD 20:40, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I see you've been working on White City and it is much improved. I upgraded it today to C class. It still needs more references. If you could fix the red links, that would be nice. I'll look at it more carefully when I get a chance. Shana Tova to you, too.--Gilabrand (talk) 20:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

North District

Basically I moved it back because your original change was incomplete and had the effect of causing quite a few problems - e.g. changing the category on the template made every article point at a non-existent category. Also, as far as I'm aware, "North" is the correct translation as it is known as מחוז הצפון, not מחוז הצפוני. пﮟოьεԻ 57 14:45, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry if I messed things up, but the correct translation is Northern District/Southern District/Central District. This is the way Israel's mehozot are referred to in all English publications, and has been for decades.--Gilabrand (talk) 14:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Ahava

Hi,

Could you kindly explain the issue you have with the text on this page? Cheers, --Dailycare (talk) 15:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

There is no "issue." All statements in Misplaced Pages articles must be based on sources. The sources must be neutral and free of obvious bias. Attempts to "educate" the reader with material that is not in the source will be deleted. Attempts to introduce POV material placed there with a clear political agenda will be deleted. --Gilabrand (talk) 15:26, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I know the policies you mention. Could you kindly identify the statements you feel were not supported by sources? As a hint, there is the tag you can use to pinpoint unsourced statements. --Dailycare (talk) 15:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, having received no reply I'll resume working on the article. Again, if you feel something isn't sourced, I invite you to use the tag to mark any such material. Cheers, --Dailycare (talk) 20:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at Israeli_theft_of_Arab_cuisine

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at Israeli_theft_of_Arab_cuisine. Thank you. Nsaum75 (talk) 17:55, 25 September 2009 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})

Israeli Fascism

Actually, you're wrong. It was not a "false category". Brit HaBirionim was a Fascist movement by its own admission. You know, it's perfectly possible for Jewish people to become far right extremists, a number of Mussolini's aides in the early days had Jewish backgrounds.

"The ideology and political faction of Revisionist Maximalism was officially created in 1930 by Abba Ahimeir, a Jewish historian, journalist, and politician, who called for the Zionist Revisionist Movement (ZRM) to adopt the fascist principles of the regime of Benito Mussolini in Italy to create an integralist "pure nationalism" amongst Jews."

Now if that isn't Fascism, kindly define what is. --MacRusgail (talk) 16:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (Gaza Strip)

Hi there. You deleted some tags on the above article. Their presence is currently under discussion on the talk page, if you would like to contribute there. Issues under discussion include the lack of sources other than two Jerusalem Post articles, and how their reliability should be interpreted in this context. Also, one or two articles in a source, however reliable the source is, may not mean notability guidelines are met. There are arguments on both sides, as always. If you know of any further reliable sources on this organisation, it would be good if they could be added. Regards, hamiltonstone (talk) 10:38, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Two out of four references are not from the Jerusalem Post. They include an article by an Arab and an Arab newspaper. What is your problem??? The only problem is Tiamut, who seems to be bored.--Gilabrand (talk) 10:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

The issue is not that simple, which is why it is being tagged and discussed at the talk page. Two of the four references are by the same journalist. One of those is strongly worded as an opinion piece. Of the remaining two articles, one is from 2007 suggesting the group is previously unknown and not Hamas administration-aligned. The other is an analysis piece that may have drawn from one of the first two in regard to its very limited mentioning of the subject of the WP article, and fails to quote any Hamas sources on an issue where seeking such comment would have been appropriate. In this complex context, and in the absence of any other reliable sources, there is an issue to be discussed. Tiamut is not a "problem", s/he is an editor, as far as I can tell trying to improve WP. I share some of those concerns. I look forward to discussing them on the talk page, and I also hope that other editors, perhaps including yourself, will be able to identify some more reliable sources. Regards, hamiltonstone (talk) 10:48, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Would you mind moving the page back to its original title until we can discuss where the page should be moved? Thanks. Tiamut 18:57, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I think it is exactly where it belongs - in a shadowy netherworld - since the name is only speculation, as you yourself have stated. If there is no "named" group, then why have an article about it, that is limited to trivialities such as a woman being harassed for laughing too loudly while swimming? --Gilabrand (talk) 19:03, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Template:Neighborhoods of Jerusalem

Hi Gila! Just wondering why you deleted Bab a-Zahara from the abovementioned template. It seems to be considered a neighborhood, and the article has since been created (translated from Hebrew wiki). Would you be opposed to it being put back? Thanks, Keyed In (talk) 15:31, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

There was no article on it for a very long time and I presumed it wasn't an operating neighborhood. You are welcome to restore it.--Gilabrand (talk) 15:35, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Will do. Keyed In (talk) 15:38, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

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Read WP:CAT

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Discussion at ANI

Greetings, Gila. There is a discussion underway at ANI that I believe you will find of particular interest. Hertz1888 (talk) 05:13, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Ah well, it's an uphill battle, ain't it? Interesting what these people spend their time on when they could be improving the substandard articles and crap written about Arab/Palestinian villages/ affairs. I wonder why they think they are "promoting their cause." In reality, they are only shooting themselves in the foot.--Gilabrand (talk) 06:20, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. Obsession and demonizing can be a great waste of human potential. Hertz1888 (talk) 16:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

List of Syrian towns and villages destroyed by Israel

Shalom Gila. I know these discussions can get heated and intense, but could you please strike out your "Supremenothingness" reference in regards to Supreme Deliciousness. Its not constructive to the discussion and might be considered a personal attack. Thanks. --nsaum75 20:54, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Blocked for 24 hrs for edit warring on List of Syrian towns and villages destroyed by Israel

The edit warring on List of Syrian towns and villages destroyed by Israel was inappropriate by both User:Supreme Deliciousness and User:Gilabrand. This behavior violated Misplaced Pages core policies such as do not use Misplaced Pages as a battleground, edit in a neutral point of view, treat editors with respect and in an adult manner, WP:DISRUPT, and WP:EDITWAR.

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ANI notice (again!)

Hello, Gilabrand. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. GiantSnowman 15:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

The totality of what you've done with the article is extremely disturbing to me, however one issue stands out rather squarely.

You have repeatedly edit-warred to reinsert mention of the 2007 Syrian nuclear reactor airstrike into the article.

The airstrike was 300 km east/northeast from the Golan Heights and 40 years after they were captured.

There is no reasonable explanation for this edit warring. You are obviously with that point merely trying to throw anti-Syrian critical information on the wall of this article and make it stick, whether it is relevant for this article or not. I cannot assume good faith about that contribution, it's so illogical that you obviously are being intentionally abusive by re-adding it.

Other administrators are continuing to review the totality of the situation - but, on this point, if you re-add the reactor to the article again, you will be blocked. Please consider this a final warning on that point.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 18:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

My edits to the article have only improved it, by pushing the editors involved to see what a bunch of crap it was and make it better. I have edited thousands of articles on Misplaced Pages in the hopes of making it a less skewed and more reliable source. Unfortunately, some people think the best way to advance their agendas is to go whining to administrators. --Gilabrand (talk) 18:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

On other article topics you contribute positively, yes. On this topic, however, you contribute disruptively and seemingly blind to your own negative influence.

There is no rational or logical way to connect an event 300 km away and 40 years later to the article. That you are defending those actions in any way is indicative of your problematic mindset and responses here.

Have you considered not participating in articles on Israeli/Palestinean issues? Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 18:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

It is ludicrous but highly reflective of the pathetic reality of Misplaced Pages that you are suggesting one of the best editors of I/P issue articles should consider stopping her contributions. It is thanks to much of her work that some articles are now SLIGHTLY less biased against Israel. Misplaced Pages will never be objective and free of the constant vilification of Israel and Zionism in general, but at least users like Gilabrand keep working hard to slowly fight this sad trend. Breein1007 (talk) 04:58, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

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Science and technology in Israel

Hi Gilabrand, I see you've also been editing this article and you have made good changes and additions. I have a lot more to add on this topic too. I noticed you moved the picture of the Weizmann Institute back up to the top of the article from where I had placed it next to the section on Scientific Institutions. I agree that there isn't space to insert a picture of any more of those institutions right next to that section, but I'd like to ask you to consider moving it back for two reasons: the picture is most topically related to that section, and placing it next to the top section causes a large white space bewteen the top section and the next part of the article. Thanks, Chefallen (talk) 08:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, this article needs a lot of work and I'm glad someone cares. The reason I put the photo there is because a photo in the introduction makes it more attractive to readers. A plain block of text is plain boring. If you have a more "embracing" photo that would fit, please add it, but I think this one is just fine to introduce the subject of "science and technology." --Gilabrand (talk) 08:04, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Argaman

Hello Gilabrand! I saw that you added a Hebrew interwiki link to Argaman (grape). While I don't understand that language, the presence of terms such as RGB and CMYK in that article makes me suspect it is an article on the colour "crimson" rather than the grape variety named after this colour? Could you possibly check if this iw link is really correct? Regards, Tomas e (talk) 15:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Tomas. You are right. It is about the color. --Gilabrand (talk) 15:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Apology

I'd quite like some form of apology for your unwarranted and baseless accusation here. Thanks, Ironholds (talk) 13:56, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry if I upset you.--Gilabrand (talk) 16:31, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Not really an apology, but thank you. For future reference, try and keep accusations of POV/Bias to situations where you have a leg to stand on - for example, when you aren't accusing a jewish law student of being biased in their attempts to delete an Israeli law firm. Ironholds (talk) 17:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Topic bans

Hi. I'm not sure how to deal with topic bans but I wonder if your way is the correct one. I've posted a query about it at WP:ANI, you may want to check it out. I suggest both of us follow the guidelines given there. In the meantime I've reverted my restoration of the comments to avoid an edit war. CheersJeppiz (talk) 20:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

cook afd

Please do not continue to remove others comments. They are not "banned users" whose comments may be deleted. They are topic banned from I/P edits and if you feel that they are in violation of that topic ban you should go to WP:AE, not unilaterally removing others comments. Also, the 3RR applies to that page as well. nableezy - 21:21, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

This is precisely the topic they are banned from participating in. --Gilabrand (talk) 21:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

This is not a clear cut case and either way the proper procedure if you feel they have violated the topic ban is to raise the issue at arbitration enforcement, not to unilaterally remove their edits. nableezy - 21:32, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

"This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. Canadian Monkey (talk · contribs), G-Dett (talk · contribs), MeteorMaker (talk · contribs), Nickhh (talk · contribs), Nishidani (talk · contribs), NoCal100 (talk · contribs), and Pedrito (talk · contribs) are prohibited from editing any Arab-Israeli conflict-related article/talk page or discussing on the dispute anywhere else on the project." That seems pretty clear cut to me. --Gilabrand (talk) 21:45, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

The "clear cut" was in reference to whether or not that a journalist who writes about the conflict is part of the "Arab-Israeli conflict". And that does not even really matter, the point is that if you feel they have violated their topic bans you should go to WP:AE, not unilaterally remove their comments. nableezy - 21:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

replied on my talk. nableezy - 17:33, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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Boy, you are fast. I am in the process of creating this article, which I began a few minutes ago. His notability is beyond question.--Gilabrand (talk) 07:00, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Ghajar Article

Thank you for rescuing this article! I was beginning to lose patience. That guy really doesn't give up easily. Breein1007 (talk) 16:37, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I know

It's pretty incredible huh.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 06:33, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Request for Enforcement

Hello. Just a brief courtesy note to mention that I filed an arbitration enforcement that reflects one or more diffs involving your edits (though I should point out you are certainly not the focus of the enforcement request). See here. I regret that it came to this, especially given that I was at the end of the day on the same side of the issue at the AfD as those editors I am now reporting. But as you know from my comments at the AfD, I was troubled by what I viewed as willful flouting of topic bans, and related editing activity. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 16:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Gil Weinberg

Hi Gillabrand,

This is Gil Weinberg trying to update my own wikipedia page to focus on more relevant and new details. You just changed my edits, and since there is an npr piece today linking to it (actually airing right now - http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2009/12/robot_music_play_it_again_shim.html) I would greatly appriciate it if you can bring back my edits.

Sorry, but I do not know how else I can contact you, so I hope this is O.K

Thanks so much

gIL

Gilabrand,

It is really ridiculous that you don't let me edit my own page with relevant and important information. I don't know where you got the trivial and unimportant information you insist to bring back after deleting my edits. Who cares that I played piano since I was 7? I worked with Igal Bareket for less than a year when I was 20. The Musical Shaper and Beatbugs are old student projects that have no wikipedia (or other) reference since, well, they are old an not so important . All of these unimportant details (again, I have no idea where you got them) do not tell the story of what I'm doing.

I am now the director of GTCMT - http://gtcmt.gatech.edu. This is my Professional page - http://gtcmt.coa.gatech.edu/?p=63 (and not the broken link you insisted on bringing back). I started a company where I am the CTO - http://www.zoozbeat.com, I have new much more big scale projects which are much more important than my old student projects such as http://gtcmt.coa.gatech.edu/?p=628 and - http://gtcmt.coa.gatech.edu/?p=634

Who are you to delete all my improtant and relevant edits and bring back the unimportant "play piano since he was 7" stuff? This is completely outrageous.

Please contact me ASAP because what you are doing signifies everything wrong about Misplaced Pages and I would like to discuss with you how this can be improved. My email is gilw@gatech.edu.

Gil Weinberg

Move

Regardless of your opinion, there needs to be discussion on the talk page first. If your claim that that is how it is referred to is true, why does "Northwest Airlines Flight 253" get five times as many google hits as "Christmas Day bombing attempt". Please bring the issue up at the talk page, and if the opinion is that the new title is better, then it can be moved. Grsz 06:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

The naming convention used by the relevant WikiProject for such aviation disaster articles is posted at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Aviation/Aviation accident task force#Accident article naming conventions. Thus, you do need to bring it to the talk page to request a move if it does qualify for the "if the event has acquired a popular name" exception instead of the standard "<<airline>> Flight <<flight number>>". Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

This is not an accident, and my reasons for the move were spelled out in the summary. There is such a thing as editing using your brains. Most people looking for information have no idea what the flight number is, so Northwestern Flight &%^$## (or whatever number it is) is a STUPID name. But of course that's only my opinion and the opinion of a large number of newspaper editors. So you can do whatever you like. I don't care much one way or other. I was only trying to make it a more sensible article. --Gilabrand (talk) 07:10, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

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Israeli cuisine

I think we are both working towards a common goal in this article and I believe we have both made solid and helpful contributions to its development. I therefore ask you to tone down your belligerent and uncivil comments in the edit summaries, which I find offensive and discouraging, particularly when attached to material that I have added in good faith and based on reliable sources. Phrases like "delete nonsense" and sarcastic remarks like "copyedit for women's cooking magazine style" and "Ever heard of Turkish coffee & chai" are not conducive to working in a collaborative manner. Straightforward comments like "edit for clarity" or "removed incorrect information" and a referral to the Discussion page will be more effective in making this a more cooperative and productive undertaking. Regards, -- Chefallen (talk) 17:20, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I offended you. I was not aware that you were the author/researcher. This article has been around for years, and I have worked on bits and pieces of it in the past. I assumed your contributions were recent, not the stuff I was copyediting. I will be more careful in the future. Bringing up the level of Israel/Palestine related articles is indeed an important mission. --Gilabrand (talk) 17:37, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the apology. I’m not necessarily the author/researcher for all the items you commented on but it is best to keep things civil regardless. I believe we are generally on the same page about developing this article so if we have any issues, let’s take them to the Discussion page to work out rather than the edit summaries. -- Chefallen (talk) 20:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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Mordechai Weingarten

Dear Gilabrand, I accept your decision to remove the picture of Weingarten's friend the Armenian Patriach. But could I ask if you could help improve this article? Particularly I cannot find his date of birth, or his death. Is it correct that his home overlooked the Armenian Quarter? I picture it as being on the street leading down from the Zion Gate. Padres Hana (talk) 12:09, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The reason I removed the photo was that without a photo of Weingarten himself, it kind of took over the article. Maybe you can add it back when the article is more filled out. I'm not really sure about the location of his home. I will try to look for more information about him when I get a chance. --Gilabrand (talk) 13:28, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Israel FAR

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Sharon Genish

I saw you put up this article for speedy deletion. Personally, I agree that she doesn't appear all that notable, but it's very likely an admin will decline it in the absence of a specific rationale (it appears you just used a generic CSD template).  Mbinebri  16:15, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

As reviewing admin, I think this shows at least some minimal importance, so not appropriate for speedy deletion. That's all it has to show to escape speedy. Passing speedy is much less than notability--any indication that it might be is sufficient. Please check WP:CSD. As for the article, First look for sources, & if not found, only then nominate for deletion. See WP:BEFORE. DGG ( talk ) 17:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Yehuda Amichai

Hi. I've just been away for a few days, after struggling unsuccessfully in my attempts to help Afalpi understand how to construct a high-quality, NPOV, Misplaced Pages article, and it was with great relief that I returned to see your excellent work on Yehuda Amichai - especially getting the criticism of Gold's biography into good, properly-sourced, shape. Many thanks - it's good to know I'm not alone. (If he keeps re-adding his NPOV opinions or replacing good text with his brand of broken English, sadly I see no other option but to start issuing him with the appropriate warnings and eventually request admin intervention if he should exceed level 4). -- Boing! said Zebedee 04:16, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

You said "I appreciate your comments very much. It can be very lonely, this battle against faceless entities suffering from a variety of strange obsessions". I know the feeling! He's come back again, and is getting more offensive by the day (Apparently you and I, plus another editor, are all the same person!). I think there is no alternative but to go for the warning/block route now, and with the help of another editor, he's already reached his final warning - his next bad edit will result in a request for admin intervention. Best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee 07:05, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Falafel

The article looks and reads much better after your edits, and your added keynote photo is most appealing. But... did you mean to leave out the Haifa restaurant photo? As you probably know, the discussion over it has not abated, and there is no consensus to remove it. Hertz1888 (talk) 09:59, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

• I have restored the image; you may be able to improve the layout. Hertz1888 (talk) 10:44, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the thumbs up, Hertz. Actually I have a problem with the photo because it mainly shows a slum building and a car. I'm sure there must be a better picture of a falafel stand!--Gilabrand (talk) 11:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

1. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1028380.html In the family way.