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Message from ChildofMidnight

Hi.

ChildofMidnight is blocked, and he put the following message on his userpage for me to tell you:

"Please check with User:Drmies about the Markus article. They are both indigineous to Alabama and are very likely to know one another, although I don't know how intimately."

Grundle2600 (talk) 21:26, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks Grundle. I'd leave a note on CoM's talk page, but I prefer if no one knows that they and I get along--it might ruin my chances of running for higher office. So please don't tell anyone. Later! Drmies (talk) 01:28, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
  • OK, I looked at the article. It did not make me feel better about the world--"prostidude." What a word! Drmies (talk) 02:11, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

World's Cutest Dog

Haha. Well ... will a link do? --Epeefleche (talk) 04:40, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

• Whoa. Is that a dog, for real? Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I reckon. Drmies (talk) 04:46, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

  • ) Tx for the humor on top of the withdraw.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:58, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

    • Hey, I used to take AfDs way too seriously in the past. It's still serious business, but I realized that you win some and you lose some--and in the end, hopefully, WP is the winner. Take care, and give your pooch a hug for me, Drmies (talk) 04:59, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
      • Will do. Belated happy new year.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:26, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

15 Minutes by Steve Young

I removed the PROD on this article. While it's not a particularly good article, WP:NB seems to say that if a book is the subject of multiple reviews, it meets the notability guidelines. Because of this, I don't think it falls under the PROD umbrella—which is only for uncontroversial deletions. Feel free to list it at WP:AfD if you feel it meets the criteria. Joshua Scott (talk) 15:38, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for the note, Joshua. I do have to say, though, that a review at Amazon.com does not count on Misplaced Pages as a review establishing notability. Same with Barnes and Noble and other online sellers, such as Flipkart and Milo. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

J E T S JETS JETS JETS

I agree with Macandrewes. Can we repost that thread so I can join the discussion? ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:09, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

• Welcome back. Perhaps WMC can reinstate it, if you ask him nicely. Drmies (talk) 17:17, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm taking a break from attempting to herd cats. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

I hope you are more successful than I am--45 minutes, and she's still not asleep. Drmies (talk) 19:51, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Brett Paesel

apologies, I didn't see your reply. HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat?

Dutch poem

I recently submitted a translation of a Dutch poem on the Rispenserpoldermolen, Easterein, at the request of Mjroots. It's a rather grammatically incoherent poem in places. I solved that by translating it to in places grammatically incoherent English, but perhaps you'll be able to improve it. Ucucha 15:52, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

• Holy moly. Much have I travelled in the realms of bad poetry, and many poorly lines and sentences seen, but this takes the cake. Give me a day or two and I will see if I can help. I think you've done a great job, by the way--did it hurt? Drmies (talk) 17:35, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Never did I breathe such pure bad poetry, till I heard Timmenga speak out loud and bold. Good luck, I'm sure you'll find some places where it can be improved. Ucucha 18:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

"Een omgewaaide eikenboom / Kwam drijven op een snelle stroom." Drmies (talk) 21:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

"De maker dezer molen kwam het boompje halen / Lonkend zij naar verre zegepralen." I should also inform you that I reverted some silly, but helpful anonymous editor who inserted some silly Internet meme on your user page and labeled their edit as "vandalism"; that I figured if I asked you to review bad poetry, I should remember that, as you told me after my RFA, there is no such thing as a free lunch and that therefore I should do for you what someone else asked you to do; and that the guy's notability is indeed a bit questionable, to say the least. Ucucha 23:10, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! You know, I am not entirely sure what an internet meme is. I could look it up, but I don't trust Misplaced Pages. Tell me what classes you picked. I'm teaching medieval writing by and about women, but I'm sure you've taken that class a million times already. Is Helen Vendler still teaching? She is fabulous. Drmies (talk) 19:13, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

It is probably difficult to know what it is—concentrated silliness, perhaps. I'm afraid medieval literature will be among my classes this semester. I did take a world literature class last semester, which got us just a few medieval women writing, such as Marie de France. I'm sure your course will be a lot broader than just Marie. I'll be doing Spanish, two courses in evolutionary biology, and a creative writing course that is the only required class for undergraduates here. Vendler is still teaching five courses; I might look into taking one next semester. Ucucha 21:21, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

<--As it happens, I just lost my MdF book somewhere in this building...did you take it? We are finishing up the lais tomorrow. I'm glad you're being cultured, mandatorily or not. I was incredibly struck by Vendler's Coming of Age as a Poet--a miraculous little book that even got me interested in T.S. Eliot. She's one of those old-school people, you know, the ones who had read everything and remembered it, and I admire them greatly. Take care, and enjoy the semester! Drmies (talk) 21:33, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the check on the poem. By the way, I noticed there were some very immature people who insisted on adding various kinds of nonsense to your user page–let me know if you want me to semi-protect it to prevent them from doing so, or perhaps you like to know what those people think about you and stay in touch with them. Ucucha 14:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Brian Boruff article edited by you

Sir, Mam,

I am writing in regard to the article: 1, in which you participated in editing. First, please excuse what may be here (and may have been on his page) poor formatting. I am entirely new to Misplaced Pages. I have added in-line citations to the article, and cleaned up the list of references. As such, I was hoping that you would remove the following two templates, as I do not know how: "This article does not cite any references or sources." and

"Text document with red question mark.svg This article includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. Please improve this article by introducing more precise citations where appropriate." I am asking that these be removed in light of the above-mentioned reasons. In addition, I was hoping that you could remove the template that the article does not meet the notability requirements, as Brian Boruff is a senior executive at one of the biggest multinational I.T. firms in the world.

If you cannot do remove these templates, I would really appreciate any advice on who I should contact about this or how it can be done.

Thank you! Jamesmythology (talk) 21:38, 24 January 2010 (UTC)Erez

• Responded, generally, on talk page. I see, in the meantime, that Ucucha has done a lot of the work (thanks!). The notability tag was retained, I imagine, because the article is lacking independent sources. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 21:47, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Anno Domini vs Common Era designation

I would like to ask one of the great wiki users, Drmies, for assistance. I'm currently in a dispute with another wiki user over the use of Anno Domini (BC/AC) and Common Era (BCE/CE) designation for years. I cannot seem to find Misplaced Pages's stance on the issue and I was wondering if you knew. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Triesault (talk) 01:03, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

See WP:MOS#Longer periods: Misplaced Pages has no preference either way, and therefore editors should not change articles solely to conform to their preferred style. Ucucha 03:24, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Ucucha, and you are right, I see now: WP has no preference, and I thought it did. (I should read that MOS more often.) I do have a preference: BCE and CE, giving away my secular and academic leanings. If I see editors change BCE to BC, for instance, I'll change it back, since the particular change (if it's the only edit made) evidences an agenda. Ucucha, how's the start of the year? Drmies (talk) 04:27, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

From what I've seen CE/BCE is preferred on talk page discussions of non-biblical/Christian articles (see Talk:History of India#BCE-CE Vs BC-AD for an example of one such discussion). Had a good weekend doc? And don't forget Mallika Badrinath. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 04:35, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Spiff, I forgot about it already. Your comment re: usage strikes me as reasonable; as far as I am concerned we drop all that POV and move to BCE/CE. Or come up with a new numbering altogether, an objective one, which would start with the American publication of Moby-Dick. Drmies (talk) 04:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I would also personally prefer CE/BCE, but don't really care much either way. There are probably more productive ways of spending your time than reading the MOS (or your talk page, for that matter), but WP:MOS#Stability in articles is a good principle. It still allows change where there's an objective basis to use one style in an article—I think History of India is a good example of an article where there is good reason to prefer CE/BCE over AD/BC, as argued in the link SpacemanSpiff gives.

Thanks, I am doing fine—just returned to college and now pondering what classes to take this semester. Misplaced Pages-wise, you'll notice that the subjects of my DYKs are getting progressively smaller: from a rice rat (skull alone 3 cm) via a dragonfly (4 cm) to gaps in the rice rat's palate (a few millimeters) to the things that reinforce a rodent's incisors (micrometers at best). I wonder where that will go. Ucucha 04:56, 25 January 160 AMD (UTDM)

• Whoa, we now have articles on holes in skulls of rats?? What is this world coming to... I think you are descending into real "science" stuff--too many syllables, and no one can understand why any of this matters. As for your classes, I see it's tricky, not that much to choose from this semester: I would suggest Mary Fuller's class, on page 11. Groeten, Drmies (talk) 16:03, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Good class, wrong college. You're probably right that articles on actual animals are somewhat more interesting, but I do need to have some underlying structure for pieces like Noronhomys#Skull. For reasons I cannot quite fathom, no one else seems to have been interested in writing articles about features of the rodent skull. Ucucha 16:41, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Haha, it was a 50/50 chance. Congrats, BTW; I wish my girlfriend at the time had been at that school and not the one where I ended up. Looking at the faculty there is like looking at my bookshelf. Drmies (talk) 20:00, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I find it surprising that WP doesn't have a firm stance on something like this. WP is designed around a non bias and non secular platform. It would be far more easier to start using the BCE/CE naming system and start teaching it in the class rooms early. I also wanted to thank Drmies for replying to the discussion on my talk page. Triesault (talk) 05:20, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

That's part and parcel of WP being a cooperative project, across disciplines and interests, for better or for worse. In the same way, we have to live with articles on monster trucks and esoteric rats with small feet and large ears. Drmies (talk) 16:03, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

What about Ecco Domani? ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

• What about it? Are you talking about the wine? Drmies (talk) 16:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

In the market for help...again

Hey, Professor. I found a source for an article that has none and I have a question about mark up. I noticed you used {{Cite news at the beginning of some cites you added and I was wondering if there are equivalent mark ups when drawing cites from bios. Actually, the bio was published online at the National Acadamies Press site. Would that qualify for the Cite news mark up? I know you're busy with school, so no rush. Just leave me a "Talkback" when you have time. Thanks Tiderolls 02:33, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

{{cite news}} is one of a family of citation templates that are useful for providing references to be formatted in a consistent manner. You can see Misplaced Pages:Citation templates for a list of other templates that serve a similar function, along with summaries of their usage. _matic 03:00, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks, Bongomatic. Tiderolls 03:05, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey Tide, sounds to me like {{cite web}} is the way to go for yours. Sometimes it's hard to figure--I use "news" for the BBC website, for instance. The difference between journal and magazine can also be difficult: for instance, I'll use {{cite journal}} for Vintage Guitar since it has volume and issue numbers on the cover, though it's hardly like an academic journal. Don't fret over it too much; I am happy you're using templates (and I think Bongo is too) since I believe they make articles look much cleaner. Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 04:41, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I had an inkling there would some gray area. Having your input and User:Bongomatic's direction to the template's page is going to be most helpful. I'll tackle the cites after work. Tiderolls 12:09, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)You can also simply add "reftools" in your preferences -> gadget menu. And you'll get the cite templates right above your edit window, without having to manually add the templates. Alternately, you can also fill in raw links (the good doc doesn't like that) and then run WP:REFLINKS on the article to convert all raw links to templated citations. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 06:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Reftools = Awesome. --kelapstick (talk) 17:34, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

<--Sounds great, and I just added it--but I don't see anything new in or around the edit window. Am I looking in the wrong place? I just looked at User:Mr.Z-man/refToolbar, but that fancy toolbar doesn't show up here at all. Geek alert! help! Drmies (talk) 20:01, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• Whoa. I undid my enhanced editing toolbar, which I didn't even know I had, and now it's there, with a million other buttons. I'll see y'all in a couple of days, after I figure this fancy s**t out. Drmies (talk) 20:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The Chimpcam Project

Doc, this is great work. Congratulations to all those who took part. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Doc where are you? I hope you're okay. Are you rooting for the Colts in the Superbowl because of your deep-seated admiration for Auburn star cornerback Jerraud Powers? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:00, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Aaargh

One should not look at diffs (or the articles themselves) for lead characters in series one follows when one has not read the most recent book in the series. LadyofShalott 04:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

• Eh, thou speakest in riddles! But thanks for blocking that editor just now. You must be talking about some fantasy series, since you're a librarian. Now, if you were me, it wouldn't matter, since my memory is completely shot. Again I can't remember if Queequeg and Ishmael live happily ever after. See you later, Drmies (talk) 06:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Injustice

Another outrageous anti-business perversion in the Dutch "justice" system . And please stop pocketing extra ketchup packets. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Glad to be at the right side of the Atlantic. Ucucha 17:37, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, CoM, activist judges preventing a company from firing a thief, a backstabber, a Quisling... Drmies (talk) 16:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Exactly!

"It is just a slice of cheese."

Maybe to a judge in the district court in Leeuwarden, but certainly not to the rest of us! I especially enjoyed reading the comments. One guy tried to calculate the cost to Mickey Ds if every employee gave his buddy an extra slice of cheese, and another made the quite reasonable point that stealing a slice of cheese is the same as stealing a billion dollars because, of course, "theft is theft". And then there's the reporter's final note that, "The decision came days after the fast-food chain reported an increase in net profits by almost 25 per cent in the last quarter of 2009." Those pinko commies running the media! Well, hopefully it gave you a laugh. I suppose there is a legitimate issue in there somewhere about companies determining their own employment standards, but you'll be relieved to know that even I couldn't take the whole thing very seriously. And I thought you might need a pick me up after John Edwards' two Americas came crashing down. Talk about shock and awe. Dick Cheney's birthday is Saturday. "Might could"? Really Doc? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Proof of Southernness, CoM, and a perfectly acceptable construction--though Ucucha would receive red marks all over his term paper. I'm sure you can't help but laught over Edwards. I feel kind of sad for her. Dick Cheney's birthday--again? I want him to run for office, that'll be a laugh. Drmies (talk) 18:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Bacon and paneer

Hi, I thought you might be amused by an edit from our mutual friend's current IP incarnation.

But don't worry. I don't intend to report to you about every bacon-related edit I come across. Mostly I wanted to write because I've been wondering how your homemade paneer turned out. Last night I had a delicious mattar paneer (not homemade, unfortunately). MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:03, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

• Mandarax! Thank you for your note; always a pleasure to hear from you. As it happened, I couldn't do it last week, nor this, and I am somewhat saddened since I was looking forward to it. I might could make it this weekend and you'll be the second to know, after Mrs. Drmies of course. Friday a colleague is saying her farewells, and I will contribute to the feast with chocolate covered bacon. Oh, after Vonnegut, I finished reading what one might call a stylistic opposite: The Land of Green Plums. Happy editing! Drmies (talk) 20:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Is it as good as We the Living? ;) Someone tried to add in bacon as an ingredient of Oysters Rockefeller. I had mixed feelings about reverting. :( Be warned that I am preparing to weigh in to the challenge. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:34, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Couldn't help noticing your interest in paneer. Mallika Badrinath has a book that's devoted to paneer recipes ;) Given that CoM doesn't seem to respond to MQS' or my requests, I'll have to find time for that between tasks on WP:IND/UBLP. –SpacemanSpiff 18:53, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I hate to bother you with this again but I wondered if you could read the Ram Narayan article and tell me whether you think it's intelligible, well worded, and neutral. I'm trying to get a few eyes - a fresh view could reveal stuff I overlooked. Thanks a lot. Hekerui (talk) 20:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

• Hey Hekerui, no bother at all--I hope that I can get to it in the next few days. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:37, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Pobl

Hi. I've merged the Rosalind Richard article. You have my blessing to merge all of the other Pobl bios into this article providing you change the structure of the cast section into a bio summary for each actor/character and retain category Welsh actors in the redirect page. If the actor however appeared in many other notable series and has a long article like Iwan "Iwcs" Roberts it would be best to keep it and just provide a summary in the Pobl article. But by the looks of it most of them should be merged... Dr. Blofeld 12:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks Ernst. Has the BLP dust settled a bit? I'm going around sourcing whenever I can--last night I did Gemma Fox, Dave Lebleu, and Hilary James. Before that, Don Was, Henk Westbroek, Richard Hillman (poet), Teye...so I am fighting for the cause, if you ever doubted that! But it's slow going. Take care, Dr.! Drmies (talk) 16:01, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Ecco Domani

Wow - thanks very much. I'll polish it up and add it to the mantlepiece. :-)

Always happy to be of assistance. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:39, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Don't sweat the refs Doc. The links will go dead soon anyway. The main thing is that the articles say what I them to. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:45, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Stephano Sabetti nominated for deletion

Thasnk you for your comments. When I originally submitted the article, I already went through this discussion with Fughettaboutit and ukexpat, two other administrators. At the time, I entered the articles, radio, and television interviews Dr. Sabetti had that had reviewed and covered covered his Life Energy Therapy, and they instructed me to use these secondary sources instead of the original source books. Unfortunately, they were done before digitization and the Internet, and the articles are not archived to the Internet. However, as I said, for example, Sabetti is noted in an article on new organizational forms, and his books are al available on Amazon.com.

At the time, I satisfied Fughettaboutit's concerns about notability. Though he has worked primarily in Europe, he has taught at Esalen Institute, been an adjunct professor here in the U.S, and published many books. He has worked with thousands of individuals, and his Wholearchy (new organizational paradigm) has been cited in business literature as a new organizational form. With respect to his books, I don't think he should be punished because ei an associated organization, Life Energy Media, is the publisher of record. and he may not be on the best seller list.

I have spent many go rounds with the other administrators to get their approbation, and so I would appreciate your direct response to see how this deletion may be avoided. I will be happy to modify anything I've done in this regard. Please note that with respect to the orphan status, I was so terrified that the administrators would look unkindly on any connections I inserted because I was cautioned against "touting" the author.

Please help. Sabetti has made important contributions to the study of energetic body work and spirituality; quite frankly I don't see how he's glarinhly less "known" than many other writers listed in the American spiritual writers category. Thanks for your timely attention and concern with this matter.LEMspare (talk) 23:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• Hi Lem. I nominated the article, so I may not be the right person to ask. In short, the age of digitization isn't even the biggest deal--print sources are fine too. But I don't see anything that discusses him significantly. That his books sell on Amazon, that's no indication of notability, and being an adjunct professor (which really means not a professor) doesn't help either. Find the sources and add them to the article--but I looked, and I found nothing. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:13, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Did You Know problem

Hello! Your submission of The Land of Green Plums at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! (Note: I always leave approvals to others.) Art LaPella (talk) 01:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

No problem. I'm glad to help ;). --Soulreaper (talk) 18:36, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

• Look at my talk page history to see what one of those morons left me. Drmies (talk) 18:37, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Wicked (musical)

Hi, I haven't really been involved with the article very much, just taking out obvious vandalism (I watch the current changes for all of the Musical theatre articles). I think we can just keep reverting the Mandy Gonzalez rumors and leaving warnings, hopefully the poster will get the message. It's hard for me to say what is correct with the article; most of it has been stable I think, it's the current cast section that seems to get the changes, not very well referenced. I'll keep an eye on the article for vandalism, will look more closely at the current cast section.JeanColumbia (talk) 10:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

• Jean, thanks for your help and thanks for your note. Drmies (talk) 15:26, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Peralta Stones

Greetings....The External link section seems to be utilizing the same source three times. This could be misconstrued as POV pushing. Maybe find some other sources that basically say the same thing(s) Jim (talk) 19:40, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note. Yeah, I thought about cutting more, but the thing is that there doesn't seem to be a general heading for the stones on that site (which is a commercial magazine of sorts). BTW, if you look in the history you will see that I did not add those links; in fact, I removed two links to a message board on that site. I don't think it approaches POV pushing yet, esp. since one of the articles claims they're a hoax. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 19:42, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

The article looks much better. Two thumbs up Jim (talk) 21:49, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Jim. Drmies (talk) 22:15, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

HIP Haiti

Sure and it's my pleasure, as always. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:40, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for David Harvey (luthier)

On February 1, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article David Harvey (luthier), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Cows (ice cream)

Great ice cream, even better shirts. Unfortunately it is not up to expansion requirements for DYK, it would have made a fine addition. You should try them if you are in the area some time.--kelapstick (talk) 21:10, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

RN

Thanks, the lead thing about the teenager is surely clearer now and the commas are helpful as well, as is linking Shankar and using a colon to introduce the explanation. Anything else? Best Hekerui (talk) 22:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

• I'll get to the rest later. "Altogether" may be grammatically redundant, but I like the sound of it better. That phrase "Mattoo instead employed", I added "and" but forgot to take out the preceding period; combining those sentences would make the logical development more explicit. (You have seen that I like combining sentences.) Thanks for catching that word order error. Drmies (talk) 23:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

sprotect

Thanks for the note (and your quick reverts!). I suspect the attack stems from the identity of the user, Lynda Thomas. I am going to go ahead and delete the various vandal attacks. If there are more vandals after the sprotect expires, I will go ahead and semiprotect indefinitely. --TeaDrinker (talk) 03:16, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

• Well, as they used to say on Twin Peaks, it is happening again... Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Virginia Bolten

A few minutes ago I nominated Virginia Bolten for DYK and added you as co-author. Cheers!--MaximilianT (talk) 20:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK for David M. Malone

On February 3, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article David M. Malone, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Non Free Images in your User Space

Hey there Drmies, thank you for your contributions! I am a bot alerting you that Non-free files are not allowed in the user or talk-space. I removed some images that I found on User talk:Drmies/Archive 9. In the future, please refrain from adding fair-use images to your user-space drafts or your talk page. See a log of images removed today here, shutoff the bot here and report errors here. Thank you, -- DASHBot (talk) 04:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

• Hey Dash--I agree completely. That sheer act of pure and, in the end, useless vandalism should be punished severely; I hope you will trace the perpetrator and come down on him like Warren Sapp. Drmies (talk) 05:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I am not worthy

Scored only 69%...even my boss scored higher... Drmies (talk) 19:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I scored 83%...--kelapstick (talk) 20:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

That's what she scored as well! Say, is there a threshold for this test in terms of Bacon Cabal membership? I'm in trouble... Drmies (talk) 20:02, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, but can we trade you for her? Would it require a first round draft pick too?--kelapstick (talk) 20:03, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, she would be delighted, she says. Also, our student worker scored 80%. I need to take this quiz again; I obviously missed something. Drmies (talk) 20:14, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, upped it to 78%, only mildly bending the truth. Drmies (talk) 20:19, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

80%. I support demoting anyone who scored below 70% to apprentice status. That's pathetic. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:49, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

27% loser here. Hekerui (talk) 17:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I am rather curious to see what Lady of Shalott's score is, based on her contributions, I am thinking it is time for an invitation for full membership in the Bacon Cabal.--kelapstick (talk) 17:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

<-- I just took it, and scored a measly 37%. LadyofShalott 17:49, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

*blink* Let me guess, you didn't drink the bacon grease....--kelapstick (talk) 17:51, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Nope, I wouldn't do that. I also have not had any bacon dessert; however, that I'd try if offered to me. LadyofShalott 17:54, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Been a long time since I've seen one of those! Cheers! 98.220.140.65 (talk) 00:52, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

• Really! Thanks for taking that kidney punch, or whatever it was, out of mainspace. BTW, I hear that Lindemans Brewery offers free beer for whoever adds references to their article. That framboise, it is undescribably delicious. Drmies (talk) 00:55, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Where's the bacon?

We thank your countryman for contributing Criminal prosecution of Geert Wilders, but this article seems imperfect based on its noncompliance with an alphabet soup of Wiki policies. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for the note. I proposed a merger to Geert Wilders for that excessively detailed bit of news. Drmies (talk) 02:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, actually I discovered it was split off from that article after a couple editors discussed it on that article's talk page. I renamed it to the more neutral seeming "trial of Geert...". I thought "criminal prosecution of..." seemed kind of loaded. I made some other changes too. But it's a bit hot for me. I suppose it will be an interesting and notable case, so perhaps an article is a good thing. I wonder if poor Geert will suffer the same fate as Mickey Ds? Or will the case follow the Swiss minaret movement... Is this related to Scott Brown and Sarah Palin, or the hateful comments against persons with disabilities and the racial insensitivity from Biden, Emmanuel and Reid. I'm so confused! ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:09, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I know you are. There, there. Papa will make some anijsmelk for you. Drmies (talk) 03:12, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm drinking a Bolthouse brand mocha cappucino beverage. It's awesome. How is Jerraud feeling heading into the big game? ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that reminds me--I was thinking that an article on Wilders's trial makes as much sense as an article on the dog that bit Jerraud. I don't know, how is he? He's not on the Colts team, is he? And if he isn't, I don't care, haha. Hey, I'm kicking it old school: I'm listening to Truth and Soul right now, from your neck of the woods. Drmies (talk) 04:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah he's on the Colts!!!... isn't he? As long as we're discussing the criminal activites of your countrymen... have you read about the Peavey Bandit? ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:28, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

<--Haha, I went to work right away. I used to have one. Drmies (talk) 04:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Is there a db-or speedy template? What do you make of List of nationalist conflicts and List of nationalist organizations? The second one seems like it has some potential? Looking at new page patrol I'm astounded that people are worried about harmless BLPs that have been here for years and have been perused and reviewed by dozens of editors. This place is nuts. NUTS! :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

No, there isn't. Those lists seem tricky to me--how do you define a conflict as nationalist? Do both sides (if there's only two) need to have some sort of nationalist agenda? Even those organizations are complicated, especially since nationalist is such a poorly referenced, vague article. That's why I'm sticking to guitars and dead people (but not Ayn Rand, of course). Drmies (talk) 04:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm having trouble getting a photo into your dart player template. Very frustrating! ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you should practice on K-stick's page first. But thanks for trying. Hey, I'm awaiting your applause for my solid-state work on Peavey Bandit. Drmies (talk) 05:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

It looks a little bit better. Why is the only "notable" musician who uses it a redlink? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Haha, yes--look on the edit screen for commentary. Also, it is an invitation for you or DGG to write that article! ;) Drmies (talk) 18:03, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Eh?

I apologize for what you just sent me a message about. I just started CVN today, and I just got pretty confused. I noticed that I messed up as soon as the change processed. I am now watching more carefully. Sorry again. --Christopher 03:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

• That's OK. But do look before you pull the trigger on Huggle or whatever, and look carefully: the edits on Arby's weren't vandalism either, but the legitimate removal of unsourced content. Drmies (talk) 03:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Elitists at the New York Times

Describing Nueske's bacon as going well with Shad roe (???) also noted that it "cries out for a revival of those half-forgotten comfort foods of the 1950's like cheese dreams (open-faced grilled cheese sandwiches with slices of tomato and crisscrossed bacon slices on top)." What do you know about this subject? FYI, they also mention "traditional English savories like angels on horseback (oysters wrapped in strips of bacon, skewered with toothpicks and then broiled) or devils on horseback (in which the oysters are supplanted by pitted prunes)." ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:06, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh my god, My grandmother used to make cheese dreams, by the (several) dozen, and freeze them (she was not known for her culinary abilities). She used a half kaiser, slice of processed cheese and three strips of bacon...I thought she invented it, or at least the name, I guess not...--kelapstick (talk) 00:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

See here, will look for CC version...or make them :-|--kelapstick (talk) 00:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I knew it was something exotic, foreign and possibly dangerous being propagated by fancypants food elites. The photo source you found also has Reuben crepes and "Stoney" Kenyan ginger beer. See also A popular finger food at get togethers that freezes well. Are you going to launch the article? ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:02, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

What is a "Monte CriSto"? A cheese dream with chicken or turkey? Wild! ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:44, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Y'all making me snackish. Drmies (talk) 03:45, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

<---Do you mean Monte Cristo?kelapstick (talk) 04:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't be mean, K-stick. Just 'cause you never make a spelling mistake doesn't mean you can pester other people. OK, now I'm going to look for a snack. Drmies (talk) 04:09, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't make spelling mistakes? Ha! That's a good one....kelapstick (talk) 04:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah Kelapstick. Meanie! Who stole my S??? Hey, there's an article on it dating to the early days of Misplaced Pages Monte Cristo sandwich. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:26, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

RE: GuitarNerd

Thanks for your help getting the Peavey Bandit article up and running. I will work on getting the information I've posted verified. Much of my information has been obtained by talking directly with current and former Peavey employees, so would it be legit to use Peavey.com as a reference? I understand the intent of making things verifiable with references, it's like putting together a legal case with no loose ends. The problem with much of the information about the Peavey Bandit is that it is proprietary and hasn't been published anywhere. Complicating matters, last summer Peavey's internal database crashed, meaning much of this information will never be verifiable in an empirical sense. Since there are at least 9 different models of Bandit, many with similar sounding names, the terms "Gunsmoke", "Teal Stripe", "Blackbox", and "Redstripe" are in common usage among people who are familiar with these amps, which is admittedly an extremely small portion of the overall population. As you can see, I am new to Misplaced Pages, but I do know about these amps. BTW, I do not work for Peavey, I am simply trying to share what I know with the public. I will edit my posts for ambiguity and so-called "weasel words". Let me know if Peavey.com is acceptable as a reference and I will make those changes. Thanks for your patience! GuitarNerd1369 (talk) 03:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

• Hey, thanks for your note. Peavey.com is acceptable for such things as the 12" speakers or whatever, but quality claims cannot be verified by them. Info from employees and all, that's a no-no here, since it goes directly against WP:V: such information cannot be verified. Now, they sold enormous numbers of these amps, so there should be plenty of sources, but (as I tried to show you), there don't appear to be any of them published. (I spent an hour or so looking for and incorporating published sources.) Finally, consider this: Misplaced Pages is not meant to give exhaustive information on (in this case) every model and variation of the amplifier, that goes against WP:NOTDIR. If for instance at some point they shift production from the US to China, that should be done in the text, possibly with an explanation of what that means (quality, cost, etc.), but certainly with a verifiable reference. If it's not meaningful it's not encyclopedic, and if it's not verifiable, it can't be kept. Thanks for your contributions and your note, Drmies (talk) 04:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

• • I believe I understand, and I openly admit that I am a little slow as this is my first Misplaced Pages entry. I have made changes to remove ambiguous words where they were obvious. I'm not sure why that would require deleting entire sections or editing the content so that the criticism section is more prominent than the specific models... I also don't understand why you keep deleting the details specific to each model. Look at the Misplaced Pages entry for Fender Champ, a similar guitar amplifier. That is what I used as a template. The reason I started a Wiki entry for the Peavey Bandit is because there are many different models, and very few people seem to know which is which. The details of the different models are crucial to the entry. Making this information available on Misplaced Pages seems entirely within the scope of existing Misplaced Pages pages for similar amplifiers. I'm not reposting entire manuals or attempting to be a "field guide" to the Peavey Bandit. References for the features of the different models are available in detail at Peavey.com in the archived manuals: http://www.peavey.com/support/searchmanuals/archived.cfm?page=B Of course, they do not show up as hits in Google, but they are publicly available if you know where to look. I'm still figuring out how to list a reference! BTW, Nicknames such as "Gunsmoke" or "Redstripe" are difficult to provide references to, but in my experience as a Misplaced Pages reader, that does not warrant deleting entire sections of content, at least it has not in other Misplaced Pages articles for different guitar amplifiers. E.g., Music Man (company), Mesa Boogie, Marshall Amplification, etc. Since I am new to Misplaced Pages, I am still learning how to insert references, but every 4 hours when I come back to update the page, it is frustrating to find that you have already deleted all the old content. Please just tag the article for lack of references, or edit the offending wording, but please do not delete entire sections. I promise, I'm working on it! Thanks. GuitarNerd1369 (talk) 06:05, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
    • Again, Misplaced Pages guidelines specifically exclude some kinds of information. Let's say they go from one kind of speaker to another--that's interesting for an owner, or someone looking to buy one, but it's not encyclopedic material if the importance of it cannot be verified by independent (i.e., non-Peavey) reliable sources. And yes, unverified material should be deleted if it cannot be verified--and I have tried to find sources for every bit of information you had in there. That there's unverified (and unencyclopedic) stuff in other articles, that's beside the point--I have looked at the Boogie article in the past, but there's so much tripe in it contributed by obvious fans, that there's really no good way to start. But the Mesa Boogie Mark Series article isn't so bad, and I continue to try and keep that clean: I will gladly admit that one of my interests is to keep Misplaced Pages from being a fansite or a forum (unless the topic is bacon, of course). It is better to have a relatively short and well-verified article than a large one full of unverified and unencyclopedic material. That you would put a list of models before actual relevant and verified material, as you did here, I don't understand that: it does not make the article better, since the amp's popularity (NOT its existence) is the reason it can have an article on Misplaced Pages in the first place. Now, you like your Peaveys, obviously--there's lots of work to be done. For instance, the list of "notable Peavey users" in the main article doesn't have a single reference, and that ought to be fixed. Thanks again for your note. Drmies (talk) 17:27, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
      • I will use the Mesa Boogie Mark Series article as a template. Apparently, that article needs more citations and references too... But at least you didn't delete the content just because it was written in a passive voice. I still think you over-reacted by deleting all my content on the Peavey Bandit article. You should have tagged it, not deleted it. I don't have time to revise the Bandit article right now, but if/when I do, please don't delete relevant content. GuitarNerd1369 (talk) 14:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
        • That article isn't the worst of the guitar amp articles, but it's not a good article. It has only one single reference, and it's still full of trivia. You may think I overreacted, but that's neither here nor there. Misplaced Pages needs verifiable and encyclopedic facts; please don't tell me what to do. If I would have tagged it, it would have been a big, ugly article with a lot of templates on top--that does no one any good. Instead, I trimmed it, and managed to find five references from reliable sources, which is five more than you found. Rather than listing components in different amps, you would do better to look around to get some reliable sources. Not everything is listed in Google; go through your stacks of magazines to find reviews of the amp, for instance. And I promise I won't delete relevant content, but then you have to promise not to add irrelevant content--that is, unverifiable content, trivial content, etc. Drmies (talk) 16:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Reinhardt College help

Thanks for the heads up on piped linking. I have a few other places in the article where I need to do this (put on talk page), will fix tomorrow as it's late where I'm at. Again, thank you for your assistance.

Carsonmc (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC).

Left right paradigm

Hi, since you seem like a responsible contributor who has worked on Left right paradigm, could you please see my comment at Talk:Left right paradigm and possibly consider what might be done? Thanks. - Jmabel | Talk 20:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for asking--though you give me too much credit. I've responded on the article's talk page; thank you for bringing up this valid point. Drmies (talk) 20:37, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I think I've now dealt with this correctly. Didn't want to blindside the one person who seemed to be actually working on anything decent there. - Jmabel | Talk 20:44, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
    • No, thank you for your courtesy and collaborative spirit. Drmies (talk)

CoMonics

Hey Doc. Your bookie called looking for you... If you need a place to hide out please let me know.

I have some questions on grammers (sic). Maybe you or one of your stalkers can help?

Is one of these incorrect? Do they have different meanings?:

The family discovered the documents were forged.

The family discovered the documents had been forged.

Also, if an article discusses The Duke of Plimpington and the writer doesn't always want to write out Duke of Plimpington, can they just use "the Duke..."? Or would it have to be "the duke..." I know duke is not a proper noun, but does it have to be lower-case when it's standing in for a prior proper noun can it be made capital? Is it ever a judgment call or is there a hard and fast rule?

Where can I get answers to these important issues?

Also, when is the draft? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:04, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I think both examples are correct, but the first might read better as "The family discovered the documents were forgeries". But I have horrible grammar...and spelling...and am not very cool (as can be gathered by my use of the term cool). What about the Duke of Pimpington?

Actually they both read to me as though the documents were genuine that were later forged...rather than complete forgeries from the beginning...but see again about me knowing nothing.--kelapstick (talk) 22:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

It seems that Drmies is ignoring me, so I'll try posting my questions on my own page and see what the stalkers have to say. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:39, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry pal--rats and flags kept me busy. Forging: the difference is that in the second one some attention is drawn to the fact that the forging was some intermediary act, though it's really miniscule. In case of doubt, choose the first one: it's shorter. The bear loved economy. Drmies (talk) 04:55, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Wow! So we agree on something? There is a first for everything~

My understanding is that the "had been/has been" construction is acceptable, but somewhat discouraged except in cases where there is a duration or repition involved (is that past perfect?).

What about the other question about substituting "the University" for University of Alabama when it's repeated often in an article and the acronym isn't commonly used or confusing (U.A. in this case).

Unfortunately, I'm also here to deliver some bad news for your efforts to promote faux bacon merchandising. Your outrageous spamming has been squashed finally . Of course I won't gloat or rub salt in your wounds. It would be unseemly for me to tell you how right I was and how wrong you were. That kind of unsportsmanlike taunting and revelry in my persevering triumphantly in a final act of complete and total domination over you, is unnecessary.

What nonsense, that tag. I removed a little bit of the content; I don't care for all of it. I think that your capitalized substition should work on all university articles. Drmies (talk) 18:25, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I see there's still some fight left in you. If only K-schtick were here to throw in the towel on your behalf so you could be saved you from any further humiliation. :) How have you been by the way? When can we start talking draft picks? It's hard for me to be stuck watching basketball. Maybe it will be enough to get me out on the beach more. There's not even the pro-bowl to look forward to this year. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:30, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I support spinning that content off into a separate article where the spam can be made into musubi, so it can be enjoyed by people who like fake meat. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:38, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Flag of India

Hey doc, would you able to do a quick run-through of the History and Protocol sections? Both identified as needing a bit of c-e for both being overly informal and in the passive voice. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 03:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, after I take care of this rat I'm working on. Drmies (talk) 03:34, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

No hurries, the FARC is on track and I have a couple of source issues to address too (in other sections). On a more important note, why are you writing about rats? Are all the Pokemons complete? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 03:37, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, it's just an exercise to see if I can help add human meaning to the countless articles on (probably imaginary) rodents produced by your fellow admin User:Ucucha. If I can't find anything exciting or literary about them, I'm going to run for admin and mass-delete them. Drmies (talk) 03:49, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

You don't need to run for admin to do that, you could just slap a Unsourced BLP tag to the article in question! —SpacemanSpiff 04:35, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Instead of saying "my brother", you could say "yen sahodhara". You beat me to that! cheers. BTW, it might interest you to note that apparently Tamils were descended from Turkish people per some fantasy writing on Dravidian peoples. —SpacemanSpiff 05:03, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

<--Thanks, I'll keep that in mind! But I'm proud of my fictional heritage, and, as you know, fictional heritages are the best. Did you know that the Frisians were favored not only by God but also by Charlemagne? The source verifying that connection in the article turns literature into history, but that just goes to show you that every people wants to feel special. Of course, my Tamil people are, no doubt about it--we're different, and not susceptible to history and such. Drmies (talk) 05:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Been having all sorts of trouble of late with these caste articles, lots of OR, creepers climbing out of the walled gardens to mainstream articles highways being renamed on wiki, villages being casteized, and so much more. As you can see from my TP, I was contacted by the great-grandson of Prithviraj Chauhan too, beat that! cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 05:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK for The Land of Green Plums

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DYK nomination of Guillaume de Dole

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Bacon products

Thanks for your take on the Bacon products section - I pruned it quite heavily since it seemed to be a very strong focus on the all the bacon flavored (vegetarian kosher) products of one company (Though spam may have not have been the right word since I think the edits were made in good faith - I suppose that's how viral marketing is supposed to work..). I expect the section will be expanded soon anyway since I think the bacon challenge 2010 is coming up in the next few weeks. (Spammy? nice one..) cheers Clovis Sangrail (talk) 13:28, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

• Hey Clovis, thanks for your note. I disagreed with the spam note, as you saw--I am in fact the editor who merged the original Baconnaise article into the company's article, and pruned the contents, and pruned even more for a note in the bacon article, so there was, if anything, the intent to cut down on spamminess. As you saw, I had something of a difficult time reorganizing after your pruning (with which I don't disagree on principle, mind you), and that section could be better reorganized I think, if more bacon-related food items were added; I didn't feel like looking for more. True, J&D's Down Home Enterprises latched on to the bacon fad in a clever and so far apparently successful way. Yes, the bacon challenge--thanks for reminding me, I got work to do. Do you have anything in the pipeline? And before I invite you to join the Bacon cabal, would you mind taking a little test? Later, Drmies (talk) 15:27, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Humblest apologies for being hasty with the word spam. I think you're right regarding the need for the inclusion of more bacon related products, the addition of others would put the J&D's info into better context. I did add the bacon vodka page, as it was floating unlinked around wikipedia and mentioned bacon mints (which popped up google, but the link is probably unsuitable in the long term).

Unfortunately I'm not a bacon afficionado so not sure how much more I can contribute (Lets just say I'm from a country that serves 'middle bacon', scored less than 50% on the test and find Kelapstick's baconbomb image terrifying). Apologies again for being a bit of a butcher with the text - I've no issue with material being readded; I think I was more trying to highlight the undue weight than anything. Also, thanks for not reverting outright. cheers, Clovis Sangrail (talk) 15:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Hehe, that bacon explosion is obscene, I agree. No apology necessary, and your point about context, that's what I meant but you put it much better. Undue weight, that's often a judgment call, but I don't personally really disagree with you here. BTW, one of your countrymen (I hope I get this right) is responsible for the outrage imaged in this section--garnished with a strawberry? Drmies (talk) 19:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

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In Song

Given your beady boozy-eyed power-hungry tool-craving aspirations for adminship, you might want to start practicing: Misplaced Pages:Song/The RfA Candidate's Song. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

• Beady-eyed? I'll have you know that I have big, beautiful doe-eyes. Jealousy is an ugly thing, Child! Drmies (talk) 00:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

OMG, that's a great parody. I can't believe I haven't seen it before now. LadyofShalott 04:35, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Corrected accordingly. Have you seen the section at DYK I set up? Do you think that will work or do we need to wait and do the DYKs all at one time like last year? I'd like to start moving things to mainspace and putting up the hooks in the special "hold for National Pork Day" section at the bottom of the DYK page. I won't mess with yours or Spinning Spork's, but I was trying to top up The Legendary Sky Attacker's good work.

Anyway, I hope all is well with you. Don't get too down about Peyton's awful losing streak in the playoffs. When you put in perspective with the good things he's done he's definitely among the top 20 or 25 quarterbacks now in the league. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:53, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

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