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::... that ''']''' ''(pictured)'' was the most powerful woman in the ] during the reign of ]? <small>] (]) 12:12, 12 February 2010 (UTC)</small> '''ALT1''':... that ''']''' ''(pictured)'' was the most powerful woman in the ] during the reign of ]? <small>] (]) 12:12, 12 February 2010 (UTC)</small>
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**Not if it is substantiated by sources. ] 01:41, 21 February 2010 (UTC) **Not if it is substantiated by sources. ] 01:41, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
**:I would go with ALT, but can't find it in the article. ] (]) 05:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on March 9

Piccadilly Theatre and Arcade

Art Deco interior of the Piccadilly Cinema

Created by Dan arndt (talk). Nominated by Dan arndt (talk) at 05:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

May Day Eve

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:59, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I am not sure about this, but I have also bolded the "married" part linked to Marriage and wedding customs in the Philippines. I am reverting/cancelling my withdrawal of the nom for Marriage and wedding customs in the Philippines on March 4, 2010. But I originally nominated/suggested it on 28, 2010 (See history here) If not, you may debold it, as you wish. But I hope this will be reconsidered. Thank you. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:59, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
The purpose is to create a double-nom in good faith. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:07, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 8

Ali Hakimi

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


Grace, Replaced

Created by ThinkBlue (talk). Nominated by ThinkBlue (talk) at 20:54, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

SS Ragnhild (1941)

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 20:41, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 18:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Academy Award winning families

5x expanded by Klantry01 (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Article was created on 2/25/10, and a DYK nomination appears in that section of this page. Please propose alternate hooks in that section. cmadler (talk) 19:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Constantine Doukas (usurper)

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 12:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Article length & creation date are good. This statement appears uncited in the article's lead. The cited statements say that "Constantine was duly proclaimed emperor in the traditional manner before the people at the Hippodrome and headed in triumph towards the Chalke gate of the imperial palace. There however he was opposed by the soldiers of the Hetaireia guard and armed oarsmen of the imperial fleet...In the ensuing clashes, Constantine, his son Gregory and nephew Michael were killed..." Assuming that the sources confirm the statement, please clarify in the cited statement that this all occurred within a single day. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 19:53, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Erm, the citation is provided in the main article body, not the lead (per WP:LEAD). He was proclaimed in the Hippodrome and proceeded to the palace where he was killed. I thought it was pretty clear. Constantine 19:56, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Bobbi Trout

Portrait of "Bobbi" Trout

  • ...that Bobbi Trout (pictured) became the first woman to fly an aircraft all-night as well as breaking the previous women's solo endurance record in a February 10, 1929 flight?

5x expanded by TitanOne (talk). Self Nom.

1968 in the Vietnam War

Dead VietCong Shock Tropper

created by Esemono (talk). Self Nom.

  • ALT1 ... the week of February 11-17, during 1968 in the Vietnam War saw the most, 543, Americans killed in action, and 2547 were wounded.

He Zhuoyan

Created by Lonelydarksky (talk). Self nom at 06:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Sandra Bullock

5x expanded by Eliyahu S (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Tremella mesenterica, Peniophora

An orangish-yellow, amorphous lobed fungus growing on a rotting tree branch. A crust-like growth, lighter in color than the surrounding wood, is visible on the upper portion of the branch.

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Give me a couple of days before reviewing the hook, and I can probably 5X the other 2 fungus articles remaining fungus article for a 3-fer. Sasata (talk) 06:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Yōji Kuri

Created by Turtleheart (talk). Self nom at 03:43, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

German U-boat Bases in Norway

Created by Coldplay Expert (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 03:00, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Uboat.net is a reliable source in my opinion. It often corroborates other reliable sources such as ubootwaffe. Mjroots (talk) 22:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  • It certainly seems to be widely used as a source in fairly well-reviewed articles; see, eg, SM U-66. I don't offhand know of a discussion on its appropriateness, but I believe there has been one at some point. Shimgray | talk | 22:45, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes yes it is reliable. Ed 17 has also told me and others that it is safe to use a a source. Trust me, Uboat.net is fine. Several other DYK's of mine alos had Uboat.net as a source as well. Nothing to worry about IMHO.--Coldplay Expért 00:09, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 7

Ioannis Liritzis

Created by Nikplas (talk). Nominated by Ukexpat (talk) at 18:53, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

  • The article was created 28 Feb and there wasn't a factor 5x expansion subsequently. I'll let someone else decide about moving it down to the appropriate date, something I'd favor. Length is ok; AGF regarding the offline hook citations. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment: Please check the article's history. It was moved from userspace to mainspace on 3/7, so that is its creation date for DYK purposes. – ukexpat (talk) 02:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Kartouwe

Kartouwe at Königsstein Fortress, Germany

  • ... that at least twenty horses were needed to transport a kartouwe (pictured)?

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 17:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Moorefield and North Branch Turnpike

Created by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 22:59, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Kindle Entertainment

A teenage girl wearing a school uniform stands in a graveyard, holding flowers Orange styalized text reading "Kindle Entertainment"

  • Comment: New article just moved to the mainspace from my userspace. The only difference between the original hook and ALT1 is the image.

Created by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 20:32, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Christopher O. Ward

Created by Offenbach (talk). Self nom at 18:08, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Grace Groner

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 17:09, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

August 8-9, 1993, tornado outbreak

Created by Marcusmax (talk). Self nom at 16:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Al-Azm

  • ... that between 1725-1783 members of the prominent Damascene family al-Azm held power as walis in Damascus, Syria for 47 years?

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Mike Morgan (blues musician)

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 14:29, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

  • I agonised over this one, and finally thought that a US term for a US subject matter would be preferable. Personally I think it is horrible grammar, and am more than happy to change to either alternative suggestion. Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:55, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

James Long (Anglican priest)

Created by WoodElf (talk). Nominated by WoodElf (talk) at 13:26, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Ghab valley

  • ... that the Ghab valley swamp in northwest Syria was drained between 1953-1968 providing an extra 41,000 hectares (410 km) of irrigated lands?

Created by Zozo2kx (talk), Jpatros (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


Statue of Parakramabahu I

A sculpture of a man holding a long object in his hands, carved on rock face.

  • Comment: The reference given for the quote is a paper by Paranavitana.

Created by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 08:22, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Nathaniel Wheeler

Nathaniel Wheeler

5x expanded by Gryffindor (talk). Nominated by Gryffindor (talk) at 08:15, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Can AGF for offline reference; however, majority of article lacks inline citations. We generally ask for at least 1 cite per section for validation purposes, more if a section contains several major paragraphs (one per paragraph). Calmer Waters 05:41, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
The references have been added whenever possible. Thank you for your feedback. Gryffindor (talk) 21:54, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Tegnestuen Vandkunsten

Teglværkshavnen housing, Copenhagen

5x expanded by Elekhh (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Filipino cartoon and animation

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 03:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Very dubious hook: the only reliable-sourced statement I see in refs is "about 90 percent of American television cartoons are now produced in Asia" (CNN; maybe I missed some other?); I don't see where the second part comes from (Bill Dennis quote?). Materialscientist (talk) 06:25, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I inserted a ref for the first suggested hook above: see page 7 to 8 of http://www.tholons.com/nl_pdf/150508_philippine_Animation_Industry.pdf - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:20, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
How about this hook, ALT 1: ... that most televised American cartoon animations are now developed in Asian countries such as the the Philippines? - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
ALT 2: ... that most televised cartoon animations in the U.S. are now Philippine-made because of the Filipinos' familiarity with Western humor? - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't observe reliable support for the strong statement that most cartoons are produced in Philipines. The pdf above is hardly a reliable source. The ALT1 phrasing is too obscure, even if we replace "such as" with more appropriate "including". Materialscientist (talk) 00:18, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, I now turn to you and perhaps better from others for suggestions. Other editors other than you may have a more positive look on this issue. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I would be happy if you first reflected in the article the split up (even approximate) in cartoon production between the Asian countries, with reliable references (well, we don't need other Asian countries, but both CNN refs you provided so far talk about Asian countries, not Philipines in particular). This would allow developing a justified hook. Materialscientist (talk) 00:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
ALT 3: ... that the first Filipino-made cartoon series for television, Panday, was created by Gerry Garcia in the 1980s? - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
ALT 4: ... that the first Filipino full-length animated film, Adarna, was created by Gerry Garcia in the late 1990s? - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Added something from the CNN ref, thus suggesting also ALT 5: that approximately 90% of televised cartoon animations in the U.S. are now made in Asia? - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
and ALT 6: ... that American animation companies are setting up more cartoon studios in the Philippines? - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

It seems as you're trying to squeeze out refs that you had whereas I thought the breakthrough should come with new references. ALT5 is not relevant (calling Philipines Asia), ALT6 is too vague. ALT 3: refs says "first animation series" - doesn't sound same as "first cartoon" (individual one). Materialscientist (talk) 08:05, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

added "series" for ALT 3. Forgot/overlooked that one. - AnakngAraw (talk) 12:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Katharine Bement Davis

Created by FloNight (talk). Self nom at 03:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

  • I'll remove it for now. I'm still expanding the article and only put up a rudimentary outline. I'm still not sure of how I want to structure the article. I'll likely add a section on penology at the end. FloNight♥♥♥♥ 15:26, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Okay, this one is verified already but I'll leave a blue notice on it until you are happy to have the article promoted. Just leave a notice here when you are ready. Gatoclass (talk) 20:14, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Jhalkaribai

5x expanded by Shivashree (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for expansion (verified). We'll see what can we do on such short notice. Meanwhile, I have the following concerns: the article abruptly ends her life description on ".. and declared herself to be the queen Laxmibai" leaving us suspended in the most interesting moment, wondering what happened to her then? Also, when and how did she die? Some phrasing needs brushing up, though this is a more technical issue. Materialscientist (talk) 09:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I have added some information in the Life section. Shivashree (talk) 11:20, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
You've added a single sentence "Jhalkaribai lived long thereafter and died as a very old woman" which doesn't sound encyclopedic and doesn't solve the problem indicated above. Materialscientist (talk) 08:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
To say "the English army" (repeating the error in the article) would be misleading, as there was no English army at the time and even the British Army was not the main combatant on the "English" side. The later reference in the Jhalkaribai article to "the company army" (that is, an army of the East India Company) is sharper, but see Presidency armies. Moonraker2 (talk) 12:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
    • company army would be okay rather than English army.

(alt) ... that Jhalkaribai fought with the East India Company army in disguise as Queen Laxmibai of Jhansi during the Indian Rebellion of 1857 to let the queen escape easily out of the fort? Shivashree (talk) 11:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I have added a paragraph to the life section about her marriage and introduction to Queen Laxmibai. However, despite a long search, I could find no sources about her later life. Whatever I could find revolves around her fight with the tiger, her resemblance with the queen, and the incident of her disguise. It is obvious given that Jhalkaribai's story had never been a part of mainstream historiography. After her only contemporary reference by Vishnubhat Godse, we could find her first reference in Varma'a Jhansi ki Rani written almost after 100 years in 1951. Most of what is written about her in the last two decades has been written viewing her importance sociopolitical aspect rather than keeping an objective historical view. Even the history textbooks describe her story as "trivia" and complete it in one or two sentences (See this). I will try to find sources directly from someone who is acquainted to the subject. The life section of the article can be considered complete till we could find some reliable sources. Shivashree (talk) 03:31, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 6

List of Rhodesian and Zimbabwean football champions

Created by Cliftonian (talk). Nominated by Cliftonian (talk) at 16:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


Nephroma

Created by Millifolium (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 09:00, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


Eustathios Maleinos

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Nominated by Carabinieri (talk) at 23:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Length, date, source all good, but the hook as written is a little unclear how about:
ALT1 "that Eustathios Maleinos hosted Byzantine Emperor Basil II on his estate in 995 and as a result the Emperor, alarmed by Maleinos' wealth and power, placed him under house arrest in Constantinople?"
Also, please put an inline citation after the sentence that the hook is derived from, in the last paragraph.radek (talk) 04:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Carabinieri beat me to the nomination :). ALT1 looks fine. As for the inline citation, the entire paragraph is covered by the citations at the end, it would be a bit odd to have one sentence stand out for no particular reason. Constantine 10:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
radek (talk) 03:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Marsh rice rat

A rat, grayish above and pale below, seen from above and from the front, among reed and leaf litter.

5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Rakhadrak Hermitage

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Himalayan Explorer (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 11:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Woman of the Year (Parks and Recreation)

  • ... that the Parks and Recreation episode "Woman of the Year" mocked the meaningless of awards, which some critics saw as a jab about the show's failure to win any major entertainment industry awards?

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 06:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Holly Graf

  • ... that Navy Captain Holly Graf was relieved of command for creating an environment of fear on her ship but that she admits swearing to "intentionally pressurize the situation"?

Created by Ipromise (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Yi Yin

  • ... that Yi Yin once banished his king and made himself the temporary ruler of China for three years?

5x expanded by Kayau (talk). Nominated by Kayau (talk) at 02:59, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

  • While you've done a good job wikifying and copy editing the article, it's not a x5 expansion. Previously the article was at 1291 characters, which means it needs to be brought up to 6455 characters. Right now it's at 3418. Need to expand it some more.radek (talk) 04:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Hot and Hot Fish Club

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

SS Beaverburn (1944)

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 21:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Captain Beefheart

Nominated by Sir Richardson (talk) 19:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Also not sure why Aldous Huxley is highlighted above. Anyway, since the article has been at 20k or more characters since a long long time (at least 2008), a 5 time expansion would require that it be brought up to 100k characters. And I seriously doubt that anyone believes that this article shold be that long. Bottom line, this article is not eligible for DYK and it never will be, unless DYK rules change.radek (talk) 03:51, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Muriel Dickson

Created by 4meter4 (talk), Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 19:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Hanging Rocks

Hanging Rocks viewed from across the river in the 1890s

5x expanded by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 18:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

1730 Valparaiso earthquake

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 17:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Roman theatre of Bosra

An overview of the stage and seating area in the Roman theatre in Bosra, Syria.

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 13:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Fabian Joseph

5x expanded by Ottawa4ever (talk). Nominated by Ottawa4ever (talk) at 12:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Alternatively it could be mentioned that he was the last amatuer captain of the Men's Olympic ice hockey team for canada. But that might be a bit confusing for those not following hockey. Ottawa4ever (talk) 12:47, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Maligawila Buddha statue

  • ... that the 7th century Maligawila Buddha statue, which was found broken into pieces in 1951, was repaired and re-erected in 1980?

Created by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 12:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Temple of Bel

Columns in the inner court of the Temple of Bel in Palmyra, Syria

  • ... that the Temple of Bel (pictured), dedicated in 32 AD, formed the center of religious life in Palmyra, Syria and is considered its "best preserved" ruin?

5x expanded by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 10:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

A Puro Dolor

5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 10:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 10:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Notes: The article was re-directed by PeaceNT to the Son By Four article. "A Puro Dolor" was created by Magiciandude under the title "Purest of Pain", which I re-directed to it's current title "A Puro Dolor" .Jaespinoza (talk) 10:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Helen Singer Kaplan

Created by Gary King (talk). Nominated by Gary King (talk) at 05:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

West Virginia Governor's Mansion

5x expanded by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 04:56, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Possible images:

In a reception area, a large vase of flowers sits atop a wooden table in the center of a checkered black-and-white floor. Two staircases on either side flank the room.

Bills–Dolphins rivalry

Created by Giants2008 (talk). Nominated by Giants2008 (talk) at 03:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

German submarine U-804

Created by Coldplay Expert (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 01:50, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

  • The hook makes it sound as if there's something extraordinary about a U-boat sinking one warship and shooting down one aircraft. Is there? How about ALT1:
"... that U-804 sank the destroyer escort USS Fiske during her first patrol and shot down an attacking de Havilland Mosquito when she was sunk during her second?" 88.90.88.107 (talk) 12:08, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Very good IP 88. If this is to be promoted, I suggest adding in the second hook instead.--Coldplay Expért 03:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 5

Ladd & Co.

19th-century general in uniform

  • ALT1:=... that Ladd & Co. was behind the first commercial sugar plantation in Hawaii and failed international land deal?
  • Comment: moved from user space March 5; picture optional of course since article is not about him but the company and its American founders

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 19:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Haqqi al-Azm

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 11:07, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Lectionary 187

Description of the image

  • ... that the initial letters in Lectionary 187 are decorated with zoomorphic or anthropomorphic motifs (birds, fishes, hands)?
  • Comment: See zoomorphic initial on the image.

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 08:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Heath Calhoun, Andy Soule

Created by Jwillbur (talk). Self nom at 01:08, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Hope (painting)

A blindfold woman in a white dress sitting on a globe, with her head leaning against a wooden lyre with only one string intact

  • ALT1:Or, as an alternative, ... that GK Chesterton suggested a better title for GF Watts's melancholy painting of Hope would be Despair?

Created by Theramin (talk). Self nom at 00:24, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Bobby Bell (Scottish footballer)

Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


A Portrait of the Artist as Filipino

5x expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Biggest Elvis: A Novel

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Unsure about about notability here. Most of the references seem to be snippets (for instance, the NPR one is a single sentence, and the NYT one that's cited 6 times is little more than a plot summary, and the one from the Kenyon College alumni bulletin is little more than a passing mention) or Amazon/B&N listings. This caught my eye because I've taken a class with Kluge before, and I always approach articles relating to people I know with an extra degree of skepticism... rʨanaɢ /contribs 05:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Added these. See Pretenders to the King's Throne, and What happened on August 04, 1996 Los Angeles Times. - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

The Man (Who Thought) He Looked Like Robert Taylor

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Vasco Abadjiev

Created by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 23:30, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Tree of Life (craft)

Tree of Life sculpture by Oscar Sotano on display at the Museum de Artes Populares in Mexico City

  • Comment: My source definitely says this but I did not see it on an image of the album cover. Anyone have access to the album in question?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Length and date verified, Spanish hook ref accepted in good faith, although I did do a (rough) Google Translate to confirm. I added "the cover of" to the hook for clarity. --Bruce1ee 08:27, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Apastovo

  • ... that the Apastovsky Museum in Apastovo, Tatarstan contains archaeological and paleontological finds such as ancient tools, bone needles, stone hammers, a skull of a rhinoceros and mammoth teeth?

Created by Himalayan Explorer (talk) and Ezhiki (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 21:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Indian Camp

5 x expanded by Truthkeeper88 (talk). Nominated by Truthkeeper88 (talk) at 21:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Rob Bickhart

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 21:01, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Fox Bunny Funny

Created by Jujutacular (talk). Self nom at 20:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Copán

  • ... that the royal dynasty at the great Maya city of Copán in Honduras was founded by a warrior sent from the distant city of Tikal?

5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 18:56, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Expansion & Date verified. Sources accepted in good faith. Image verified by FlickreviewR robot and confirmed to be licensed under the terms of the cc-by-2.0. Searched web for notability, found several sources, Might I suggest adding a couple of online citations? --TitanOne (talk) 20:26, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Hampton-on-Sea

Edmund Reid at Hampton-on-Sea

Created by Storye book (talk). Nominated by Storye book (talk) at 18:44, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Virtually all refs for this (nice) article are offline. That Edmund Reid was a head investigator in JtR case is a solid fact, the rest I'm willing to AGF, but I do urge the author to try finding internet accessible references for parts of the article (or at least books with ISBN number). "Hampton-on-Sea" returns almost nothing on Google. Materialscientist (talk) 08:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  • This is why I uploaded this photo of the noticeboard about Hampton-on-Sea which stands on the site: File:Hampton-on-Sea 005.jpg so that readers can see that the story is verifiable. This image will be seen by anyone clicking on the Commons category box at the bottom of the article, and is readable in several languages if you zoom in on it. The book is published by Ramsgate Bookshop (the one you removed the links to), so the link was to the publisher. The only other outlet for the book is an Ebay shop, but I didn't think that a link to that would be acceptable. If people want to get the book for further research, they will need to get it from one of those two sources. I accept that Ramsgate Bookshop is a commercial link and is not allowable, though, so I'll add a note that Herne Bay Library has a copy of the book. Hope that's OK now.--Storye book (talk) 09:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Update: I've just been told that the book is available on Amazon after all: that gave me the ISBN, which in turn shows up the book on bookfinder.com, so no worries about the publisher link. Also I've just uploaded a scan of a postcard of one of the houses disappearing into the sea. The postcard has its own visible caption "Disappearing Hampton-on-Sea". Please let me know if you need any further evidence.--Storye book (talk) 11:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Dhumavati

A green-skinned woman wearing a yellowish sari with red stripes, holding a winnowing basket and sits on a golden chariot with bird motif. A dark woman with a halo, wearing dark clothes and gold ornments sits on a crow and holdings a winnowing basket.

  • ... that the Hindu widow goddess Dhumavati (pictured) is offered liquor, meat, cigarettes and bhang, an intoxicating hashish drink?

5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 17:07, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Fascinating artcle but there are three references at the end of the paragraph. To have one (or more) of them after the sentence that references the hook is best, even if it is repetitious.Thelmadatter (talk) 17:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Done for only the relevant para, though now it looks like over-referenced, The three references at the end of the para were continuous pages (1 page left out as it has an img) from the same book. The para is a summary of the essence of the 3 pages. I usually do not like adding a reference on each line (looks over-referenced) and add coupled references for similar idea sentences at end of para. --Redtigerxyz 04:49, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Good for DYK, after it appears you can modify.Thelmadatter (talk) 19:51, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Figure skating at the 1956 Winter Olympics - Men's singles

Created by H1nkles (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


SMS Hela

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 14:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Steve Williams (rugby player born 1982)

Created by Calistemon (talk). Nominated by Calistemon (talk) at 10:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Avukana Buddha statue

A statue of the Buddha, with a large rock face visible in the background

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 09:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

How does this sound?
  • ALT1: ... that according to legend, the 5th century Avukana statue, a large stone figure of the Buddha, is the result of a competition between a sculpting master and student?
This is the best I could come up with. Any alternative suggestions? ≈ Chamal  ¤ 11:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT verified. My one criticism of the article is that I think I preferred the original image rather than the cropped version, as the little people below give a much better idea of its scale. The cropped image is good for the reduced DYK image though. Gatoclass (talk) 12:04, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Dinopanorpidae, Dinokanaga, and Dinokanaga

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 08:26, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Tweak again into triple nomination for the family and both genera in the family.--Kevmin (talk) 19:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Pinki Pramanik

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 07:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 4

Lion class battlecruiser

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


5x expanded by Stone (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


Admiral Apartments

  • ... that the Admiral Apartments, built in 1909, had "sporting girls" (prostitutes) operating out of it by 1913?

Created by Tedder (talk), Tedder (talk). Nominated by Tedder (talk) at 03:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Mayor of Manukau

  • Comment: Moved into mainspace on 4 March.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 11:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Boxing in Wales

Created by FruitMonkey (talk). Self nom on 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Ferdinand Poulton

Created by Patrickneil (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


Congregation B'nai Israel Synagogue

Congregation B'nai Israel Synagogue

  • Comment: This is a fivefold body text expansion

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 21:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


Umar al-Aqta

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

The Black Forest Clinic

  • ... that the 1980s German television series The Black Forest Clinic was so popular that it was once dubbed "the epitome of German television bliss"?

Created by Big Bird (talk). Self nom at 14:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Lake Muhazi

Created by SteveRwanda (talk). Self nom at 09:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Perchance to Dream (novel)

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 05:37, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Frank Dekum

Created by Finetooth (talk). Self nom at 04:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Additional note by Finetooth: The claim is supported by the in-line citation to the Gaston book, which is linked in the "Works cited" section. The last paragraph of the Gaston article (found on page 309) supports the claim.

Anna de' Medici

  • ... that according to one contemporary source, Barbara Strozzi showed off a bejeweled necklace she received from Anna de' Medici by placing it between her two breasts?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Nominated by Ruby2010 (talk) at 23:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Herman Phaff

  • ... that during his career Herman Phaff collected 6400 strains of yeast creating a collection containing 400 of the 700 identified species of yeast?

Created by Smartse (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 22:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Note Created in userspace on 14/2, moved to main space today. Smartse (talk) 22:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Vizsoly Bible

The Vizsoly Bible

  • ... that the Vizsoly Bible, the first complete Hungarian translation of the Bible was published in 1590?

5x expanded by Alensha (talk). Nominated by Alensha (talk) at 21:42, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Haverfordwest Castle

5x expanded by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 20:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Church of St Lawrence, Alton

Church of St Lawrence

Created by Ericoides (talk). Self nom at 18:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Toluvila statue

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 14:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Crucifixion (song)

  • ALT1:... that Joseph Byrd's arrangement of Phil Ochs's "Crucifixion" has been described as "one of the great moments of experimentation in all of 1960s pop music"?

Created by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 05:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Done. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 18:38, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Length, date, and hook 1 verified. — Dale Arnett (talk) 05:07, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Beating Heart Cadaver

Created by E2eamon (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 03:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

  • I am fairly new- what is wikipedia policy on capilalization? I would think that this should not be capitalized, and would just change the hook to be not capitalized. But, does the article need to be moved or can it keep it's capitalized title? E2eamon (talk) 05:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I fixed all the redirects, so now all links to the article are good. (Although I left the links in the original hook and Alt 1 linking to the redirect). Alt 2 links properly to the moved page. E2eamon (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Interactive Museum of Economics

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 02:58, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

  • As I am unable to read Spanish I added a cite that validates that it is the world's first children museum. Also while attempting to ascertain if it was the world first overall museum dedicated to economics I came across another . Believe addressing it such, as it appears from the article and others that it indeed an interactive children museum. Calmer Waters 08:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
The first sentence of the article from La Jornada (reference 1)states "Es el primer museo del mundo dedicado a la economía." (It is the first mueum in the world dedicated to economics.) I dont known where you found children's museum although it does have exhibits geared towards kids.Thelmadatter (talk) 13:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Good to have an English language source though... thanks I didnt expect to find one.Thelmadatter (talk) 13:44, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Ouvrage Rochonvillers

Secret until 1971

5x expanded by Acroterion (talk). Nominated by Acroterion (talk) at 02:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

  • This really should have been nominated on 16 February when the expansion started, but since you're new around here and 16 Feb is still on the page, I'll overlook that this time. Article verified but I was unable to verify the image. Gatoclass (talk) 13:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
What do you mean about being unable to verify the image? Do you mean that you're unsure that it's a photo of Ouvrage Rochonvillers? Nyttend (talk) 17:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
No, I mean I'm unable to determine that the image is not copyright. Gatoclass (talk) 11:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm hardly new here, but I found the item that gave me the hook yesterday, among five volumes of French documentation. In any case it's a 10x expansion. The image is clearly indicated on Commons as Rochonvillers, and it checks out with my published sources and with online sources. I suppose I could apply the hook to any expanded article on Maginot positions, but this is probably the most interesting one, given its history with Germany, NATO and subsequent re-use by France. Acroterion (talk) 20:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the expansion is there, but you should have nominated it for Feb 16 when the expansion started, not on March 5 when you finished it. Gatoclass (talk) 11:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
I had no hook material or reference for it on February 16th. Article expansions don't necessarily develop to suit DYK rules, and I wasn't aiming for a DYK when I started. I'm fine with dropping this one as outside the parameters of DYK, in any case: I was under the impression that the end of expansion was a more logical point of departure than the beginning, but this point did lag a bit after the main portion. Acroterion (talk) 13:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
An article is supposed to be nominated within five days of being created or within five days of the start of a x5 expansion. In practice, it tends to be a little longer because of the "Older nominations" tail on this page. Strictly speaking, your article should have been disqualified, but since I haven't seen your nic before I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt, and I don't intend to withdraw the verification now. However, if you add a late nomination next time, don't be suprised if it gets disqualified because the reviewer is fully entitled to do so. Gatoclass (talk) 15:44, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Holy Family Catholic Church (Frenchtown, Ohio)

A white church located amid a cemetery

  • Comment: I'm planning to create a stub on Frenchtown well before this will reach the Main Page.

Created by Nyttend (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 00:22, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Danaë with Nursemaid

Created by Ceoil (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Everything checks out (here's an old edition of the source available online ), just the hook is a bit dry. The best alt I can think of at the moment:
ALT1 "...that in the Petersburg version of Titan's Danaë with Nursemaid (pictured), which illustrates the Greek legend of Danaë, the dog is absent, while in the Vienna version the nursemaid is portrayed as a hag?"
Note that this would require a slight change in the text of the article and using the Hermitage version image in the hook.radek (talk) 06:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on March 3

Hugo Weidel

5x expanded by Stone (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


Carl Jeppesen, Kristiania Match Workers Strike of 1889

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 18:34, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


2009–10 Kentucky Wildcats women's basketball team

5x expanded by Dale Arnett (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


Museo de Charrería

Museo de Charrería

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 11:01, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

History of Scandinavian Airlines System (pre-1952)

People disembarking a metallic propeller aircraft through the back door

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Bang (The Good Wife)

Alan Cumming

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 23:58, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Rudy La Scala

  • ... that singer-songwriter Rudy La Scala began his musical career with a band named Las Explosiones de Goma?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 23:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 22:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: that singer-songwriter Rudy La Scala had the best-performing Latin single of 1990 in the United States?
That is the reason I did the ALT version of the hook. The ALT is based in the Billboard Year-end charts of 1990.Jaespinoza (talk) 06:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm not concerned about the reliability of the hook, but about the article not satisfying DYK standards, because it's not based on third-party sources.--Carabinieri (talk) 18:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
This article has been really hard to do. I didn't find any source about the singer-songwriter (Billboard, Allmusic, Google Books). The main reason to do the article is that he had two number-one songs in the Top Latin Songs chart, and I want to take that list to FL status. Any sugestions?. Jaespinoza (talk) 20:23, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Elarbi Khattabi

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Ramahurmuzi

  • Yes it is indeed a weasel word, I was trying to make this hook brief and the answer to your question is well-documented in the article. I changed the wording above to reflect another source and have avoided using a weasel word.--Supertouch (talk) 11:34, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Meaning a number of authors wrote books during the same era therefore they were all the first to do so, and Ramahurmuzi being one of them is from the first. I found an additional source and plan to add to this section soon. I changed the hook (again) so hopefully this meaning is more apparent now.--Supertouch (talk) 15:01, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

William Milman

Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

History of vice in Texas

  • ... that when law enforcement officials cracked down on vice in Texas during the 1940s and 1950s, some of Texas' most notorious crime figures moved to Las Vegas to help establish major casinos such as the Sands Hotel?

Created by Mcorazao (talk). Self nom at 20:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

St. John the Baptist Catholic Church (Maria Stein, Ohio)

A brick church with a tall tower

Created by Nyttend (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 18:38, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Kesha Rogers

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Self nom at 18:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Revolution 1 (Take 20)

Created by Jgera5 (talk). Self nom at 17:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Friends of Cathedral Music

Created by Andrewrabbott (talk). Self nom at 16:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Louis Jordan (American football)

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 16:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Israeli art student scam

  • ... that scammers pretending to be Israeli art students have been reported all over the world, selling cheap Chinese paintings as original art by up-and-coming talents?

Created by Factsontheground (talk). Nominated by Factsontheground (talk) at 08:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Can't comment on the previous article, but I do remember reading about this at the time and I think it's probably a legitimate topic for an article, although the current version may need a little work. Gatoclass (talk) 09:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm not convinced it's simply an "attack page", although the article may need some work. It appears to be well sourced and this very odd alleged "spy scandal" garnered quite a bit of publicity at the time. Gatoclass (talk) 11:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
The 1 March deletion was an inappropriate speedy delete, so it should not be a reason to reject this DYK. It is unlikely that such a delete will occur again, since I asked several admins whether it was an appropriate application of CSD#G4 and they agreed it was not and offered to restore. You can read more about the issue here. Factsontheground (talk) 11:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I have created an afd for it.--Peter cohen (talk) 13:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Wolf Haven International

  • ALT1:that Wolf Haven International replaced most of its staff and board of directors after the USDA began investigating whether a dying wolf endured prolonged suffering before it was euthanized?
  • ALT2:that the 80-acre refuge at Wolf Haven International shelters 47 wolves that would otherwise have no homes and is visited by over 20,000 people a year?

5x expanded by Collectonian (talk). Self nom at 07:55, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Loharinag Pala Hydro Power Project & G. D. Agrawal

5x expanded by Marcus334 (talk). Self nom at 07:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikified lists to prose, copyedit-Marcus334 (talk) 23:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC).
  • The Agrawal article has serious may have had some problems with its tone, bordering on POV. The Loharinag Pala Hydro Power Project article for the most part lacks needed more inline references.--Carabinieri (talk) 04:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Superlatives and source POVs have been removed to address tone issue.
More citations have been added so article is now well referenced. -Marcus334 (talk) 21:09, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
  • A couple of examples of POV problems
  • "These are the deliberate choices of a devout Hindu with respect for simplicity in living and reverence for nature."
  • "Dr Agrawal's students remember him with admiration, awe and affection."
  • "Dr. Agrawal's devotion to the River Ganga comes from his strong Hindu faith and his conviction that India is staring at an unprecedented ecological and cultural catastrophe. As a citizen and a patriot, he has made it his life’s mission to recall India to its traditional reverence for nature and to share that wisdom with the “developed” world. His sense of duty allows him to do no less.
  • The whole article is just glorifying the guy. Furthermore, a blog is among the sources the article cites and the referencing overall is somewhat scarce. Also, much of the original article was copied and pasted from this blog. This raises copyright concerns, as the article has only been modified to a certain degree since. I guess this blog is where all the pathos in the article's glorification of Agrawal is coming from.
  • As to the article about the Power Project article: it too has serious referencing issues and needs copyediting.
  • I'm sorry, but these two articles are not ready for DYK.--Carabinieri (talk) 17:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Jose Peralta

5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Date, length, and hook OK. However, I suggest changing "United States Congressman" to "U.S. Representative" as official and more widely adopted description. Hekerui (talk) 09:38, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Done. Changed to "U.S. Representative", as per suggestion above by Hekerui (talk · contribs). As for the comment by Carabinieri (talk · contribs), it is unusual, as the Congressman had previously supported Peralta's opponent. However, I would be more than willing to entertain other hook suggestions (though I think this one is fine). Cheers, Cirt (talk) 14:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Alt hook, proposed. Cirt (talk) 14:42, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Alt hook, proposed. Cirt (talk) 22:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 2

Indigenous and Tribal Peoples Convention, 1989

5x expanded by Maziotis (talk). Self nom at 12:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Richard Charlton (Hawaii)

  • Comment: Moved to main space March 2 after being developed in user space

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 18:02, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Skene Memorial Library

Skene Memorial Library

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 04:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Dusios

Created by Cynwolfe (talk). Nominated by Carabinieri (talk) at 07:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Cornwallis in Ireland

A 3/4 length portrait. Cornwallis, a portly man with white hair, wears a red military tailcoat and a blue sash over a white waistcoat and light-coloured pants. His right hand rests on a cane.

Created by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The Chase (Desperate Housewives)

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 03:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

  • How is this fact unusual? Couldn't a more interesting fact be found in the article?--Carabinieri (talk) 04:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
    • My understanding is there is no rule that a hook has to be unusual. I suppose we could do a hook about the subplot with Katherine exploring lesbianism, although the hook for the last article sort of touched on that already... — Hunter Kahn 01:55, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
  • My understanding is that presenting an unusual/interesting/intriguing/humorous/surprising fact is one of the main goals of DYK (the other being giving publicity to new articles).--Carabinieri (talk) 18:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
    • That is a suggestion, but not a rule. That being said, I've already indicated I'm open to alternate hooks. I'm just looking for guidance or suggestions? — Hunter Kahn 16:03, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Fernando Krahn

Created by Gothbag (talk). Nominated by Gothbag (talk) at 22:33, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Sylvester C. Simpson

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 22:14, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

50P/Arend

Created by TitanOne (talk). Nominated by TitanOne (talk) at 19:14, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Hook has 4 references main source of which is the SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS), Astronomical Journal v.113, p.1433. With regard to the site it only outlines the historical references but not sourced entirely through this reference alone. Please let me know if you think it needs more citations? I didn't place all of them at one time due to several instances in the past has led to other editors to comment that I've done citation overkill per this article as an example. --TitanOne (talk) 12:10, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
IMO a source shouldn't be cited at all if its reliability is unclear. I generally think

not citing enough sources is a bigger mistake than citing too many. So if you need to cite more sources so that all facts in the article will be referenced, I'd say go for it.--Carabinieri (talk) 18:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Please try finding a bit less technical fact about this comet. Materialscientist (talk) 08:56, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Please note that the hook is located at the last part of the intro prose --TitanOne (talk) 08:34, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that periodic comet 50P/Arend is expected to make its next closest approach to the Sun in 2016? Is Ok with me. Both refs for that look like personal web sites (not sure about Spanish one). A more reliable ref would be welcome. Materialscientist (talk) 08:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Rutherford Bacon

Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 16:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Yes. It is. I am sorry.
  • Both hooks verified, but again, I must reject this notion that failing to mention the source of a quote in a hook violates WP:WEASEL. WEASEL is about hiding personal opinions behind vague attributions, and when the source is clearly identified in the article itself, there can be no question of WP:WEASEL. Gatoclass (talk) 20:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Edward Woolsey Bacon

Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 15:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Length, references and dates checked and look good. But, I wanted to bring up that the hook makes his leadership of black soldiers sound heroic while the article...not so much. The article points out that he was probably pushed into the military leadership of colored troops by his father and that his own attitude was 'patronizing'. That term brings a negative connotation for me. I was hoping to get another opinion from other editors as I am a newbie at DYN verification... Sabiona (talk) 16:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Sorry, no such connotation was intended, and I also did not mean to intend that he was "pushed" by his father--far from it. His attitude was indeed patronizing, same as with most Connecticut whites of the time. If other editors also feel this needs tweaking, we'll get to work on it. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Olvir Rosta

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 12:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Whoops. How about now? I was missing an "after". The saga records of how both Olvir and his grandmother attempt to take the earldom of Orkney by force. Later, they get attacked by followers of the earl, on their own lands. In this attack, the grandmother and her attendants get boxed into their house, which is then burned to the ground; Olvir flees the scene, never to be heard of again.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 05:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Harold Ballin

Harold Ballin

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 08:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 1

Lesley Thompson

5x expanded by Crabbylucy (talk), Oceanh (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 19:01, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


Whitney Avenue Historic District

Whitney Avenue Historic District outline on map

5x expanded by Doncram (talk), Polaron (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

  • The hook fact is not supported by the article text. The article indicates that there are 1084 contributing buildings in the district and it says that the district includes "locally outstanding examples of Queen Anne, Shingle, Colonial Revival, Tudor Revival, and other styles", but it nowhere indicates that there are over 1000 buildings with Queen Anne, Shingle, Colonial Revival, and Tudor Revival architecture -- and, in fact, this seems unlikely to be the case.
    Additionally, the entire article is very rough. It appears that an attempt has been made to insert reference links using {{rp}}, but the template has not been used properly so it is not clear that these are reference citations. Many parts of the article appear to be only half-written. For example, the statement in the lead that says "there were a total of 1113 buildings in 19xx" causes me to think that I am reading an outline for an article, and not an actual article. The article section called "Apartments" that contains only the single sentence "There are apartment buildings in the district." looks like someone started to write something, but forgot to finish it. I don't know what to make of the "Institutional buildings" section, which consists of the sentence "There are ten churches in the district, four of which are contributing," followed by a colon and a list that contains just two items, neither one of which is a church. There are several parenthetical references to photos that do not appear anywhere near the text that calls them out -- and at least one of which isn't even in the article. Much needs to be improved before this article is ready to be featured in the DYK section of the main page. --Orlady (talk) 19:47, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
  • PS - I looked at the main source for the article (the National Register nomination form), and it definitely doesn't support the hook fact. The source indicates that a large number of buildings in the district are of "other" architectural styles. --Orlady (talk) 02:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Article has been further developed, addressing some but probably not all of Orlady's complaints. I think there's been creep in standards for DYK articles over time, but not everything in a new article needs to be highly polished already. Could someone else review the following alternative hook?

  • Do we have any standards about the serial comma at DYK, or is it basically "whichever the writer uses is okay", like elsewhere at Misplaced Pages? Nyttend (talk) 14:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Harold Pogue and Perry Graves

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 08:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • The Illinois All-Americans prior to 1914 were not "first-team" All-Americans. (The key at the bottom of the source shows that the -2 or -3 next to all of the pre-1914 designations means they were second or third team selections. In 1914, Pogue and Grave each received at least one "first-team" recogniction. That was the first year in which any Illinois players received the honor. This was stated in the articles, but not clear in the hook. I've now added "first-team" to the hook. Cbl62 (talk) 19:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Frederick Bradlee

Frederick Bradlee

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 08:12, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Laurence Irving (set designer)

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 07:59, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Alcabala

  • ... that resentment of the sales tax called the alcabala triggered several revolts in Spain's colonies, even though rates there were lower than in Spain itself?

5x expanded by Jmabel (talk). Self nom at 04:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

St. Augustine's Catholic Church (Napoleon, Ohio); and First Presbyterian Church (Napoleon, Ohio)

First Presbyterian Church First Presbyterian Church

Double nomination; both articles created by Nyttend (talk) — St. Augustine on 27 February and First Presbyterian on 1 March. Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 00:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Acroterion and I tried to get a better hook and couldn't; I welcome help :-) The goal of the hook is to say "one is on one side of downtown, and the other is on the other side"; the source for both is the National Register Information System (ref name=nris in both articles), which provides geographical coordinates showing them on opposite sides of downtown. Nyttend (talk) 14:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
    Thanks for bracketing explanation which is fine. Hm.. I don't see a better hook either .. (help welcome). Maybe ALT1

Priscus (general)

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


List of New York Legislature members expelled or censured

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 16:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I notice Schermerhorn was never actually censured, in which case I don't think he should be in the list. Gatoclass (talk) 14:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Done. Okay. I removed that entry. Cirt (talk) 16:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 Verified Hook and article look great. J Milburn (talk) 14:06, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
As I said to Cirt, I have some concerns about promoting an article emphasizing negative facts about BLP's like this to the mainpage. Gatoclass (talk) 15:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Alternate hook, proposed. This hook is about a fact regarding a person that died in 1785 - which is over 200 years ago. Cirt (talk) 22:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Most of the article concerns facts about history from over 100 years ago. The article itself and its topic is indeed quite notable and encyclopedic. I suggested an alternate hook that deals with an issue from over 200 years ago. Cirt (talk) 13:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Did_you_know#DYK_rules says that articles that focus unduly about negative aspects of living people should be avoided, but it doesn't prohibit them, and it definitely doesn't prohibit articles that focus duly on the subject and that are primarily about dead individuals. Nyttend (talk) 14:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with this comment, by Nyttend. The majority of the article focuses on individuals that are not living. Please also see discussion at WT:DYK. Cirt (talk) 14:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Alternate hook, proposed. This one might be a bit more interesting than ALT1 hook. Cirt (talk) 20:58, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Outer Trial Bank

Outer Trial Bank, a man-made island situated in The Wash, approximately 2 miles off the East Anglian coast in the UK

Created/expanded by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 15:55, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Kennaquhair (horse)

Created by Cgoodwin (talk). Nominated by Cgoodwin (talk) at 06:26, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

List of Sri Lankan Test cricket records, List of international cricket centuries by Mahela Jayawardene

A man standing on a cricket pith, wearing white cricket kit and blue helmet leans forward to play the ball with a bat held out in front.

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 06:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Muroid molar

  • Comment: The true number is considerably higher, but most if not all other nomenclatures are for smaller groups only, and any definite number would probably be OR. This hook is supported by Reig's explicit statement that eleven nomenclatures had been proposed before him, the twelfth he proposed himself, and the cited statement that at least for the muroids there are other nomenclatures.

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 01:31, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 28

Marriage and wedding customs in the Philippines

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:59, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I am not sure about this, but I have nominated/suggested May Day Eve for March 9, 2010, where I also bolded the "married" part linked to Marriage and wedding customs in the Philippines. I am reverting/cancelling my withdrawal of the nom for Marriage and wedding customs in the Philippines on March 4, 2010. But I originally nominated/suggested it on February 28, 2010 (See history here If not, you may debold it, as you wish. But I hope this will be reconsidered. The purpose is to make it a double-nom (in good faith). Thank you. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:05, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Canadian federal election, 1957

  • ... that when a teenager tore up a photograph of Canadian Prime Minister St. Laurent as the PM spoke, the ensuing fracas was seen as a turning point in the 1957 Canadian election?

5x expanded by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 00:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Majorca Sheepdog

A black, short haired dog standing on a rock

  • Comment: Bejnar wrote this page, (page was going to be reported for copyvio, but he wrote an article on the dog, independent from the copyvio)

Created by Bejnar (talk). Nominated by NativeForeigner (talk) at 01:04, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Alexander McLeod

Wyandanch (sachem)

5x expanded by Radeksz (talk). Nominated by Radeksz (talk) at 08:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Emil Stang (born 1882)

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 19:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Vic Halligan

Nebraska All-American Vic Halligan

  • ... that Nebraska's first All-American Vic Halligan (pictured) was called "The premier punter of the West, A master of the forward pass, A tackler equal to the best"?

Created/expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 16:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Vernon Prichard

Vernon Prichard

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 08:05, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Since Ike was the Supreme Commander of all US forces in the European Theater, Gen. Prichard as commander of the 1st Infantry in Italy was serving under and for Ike. Is your concern that Prichard was not a "direct report" to Ike? That is correct as a matter of technical chain-of-command, but the comments from Ike about his prediliction for selecting football players for command positions, identifying Prichard as one of his generals who "measured up" during the war, and the personal correspondence between the two men, partially reflected in the article, also supports the statement that Prichard was commanding the 1st Infantry for Ike. If you still think the wording is problematic, let me know if there's an alternate phrasing that you think would be better. Cbl62 (talk) 19:54, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Personally, I think the football analogies in the article are overdone, but I'm not going to quibble about that. My point is that if Prichard was a subordinate to Ike, that should be stated and cited in the article per our normal rules for the hook. Gatoclass (talk) 08:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I confirmed the command structure. Prichard's Division was part of the Fifth Army under Gen. Mark W. Clark, with Clark reporting to Eisenhower. So there was an interim report between Ike and Prichard during the Battle for Europe. Accordingly, I propose the following alt hook:
*alt 1 ... that Gen. Vernon Prichard (pictured) was Dwight Eisenhower's quarterback at West Point and commanded the "Old Ironsides" armored division during the Italian Campaign in World War II? Cbl62 (talk) 17:51, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Tiger Raj Singh

Created by Nikki311 (talk). Nominated by Nikki311 (talk) at 02:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm always still against "Here is a fact about somebody/aProduct in the news lately we want to promote" - this being a prime example. It would need a hook, not just a fact, to make it interesting enough for people to click through and read. Sherurcij 00:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Banksia novae-zelandiae

  • Comment: before anyone notes about lack of inline referencing, the whole newly-described species is from one recent paper. I guess we can tag each paragraph..what do folsk think?

Created by Hesperian (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 22:58, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

2009–10 PBA Philippine Cup Finals

5x expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 14:29, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Frente Popular (Goa)

Created by Deepak D'Souza (talk). Self nom at 12:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

List of number-one albums of 2008 (México)

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 08:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 08:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Greene v Associated Newspapers Ltd

George Peek

George Nelson Peek, first Administrator of the U.S. Agricultural Adjustment Administration, on the cover of Time magazine on Nov. 6, 1933.

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 04:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

If it's just some reporter, might be better to find another hook, as the opinion might well be marginal. Gatoclass (talk) 05:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Wedding cord

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:14, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:35, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Sorry to halt the approval however I've checked the sources and they all seem to be sourced through wedding blog/shop/specialty store (weddingunitycoins.com, filipino-dating.com , etc.) hardly any of which are notable citations. I would need to raise issues on the reliability of the sources. --TitanOne (talk) 13:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

::Nom withdrawn. - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:30, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Strike comment. Will let you decide on this. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

German submarine U-162 (1941)

Created by Coldplay Expert (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 02:00, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

  • This hook seems to imply that there was something unusual about the fact that three destroyers took part in the sinking of a single Uboat, the 'it took three...' especially implies that it was something to do with U-162's resilience. It was fairly common for a number of warships to join together, sometimes with air support as well, to prosecute an attack on a submerged Uboat to maximise the chances of sinking it. I'd prefer a hook that doesn't focus on this as if it were an extraordinary occurrence. How about:
I like the last nom of yours Benea. But if it's going to be a double nom then you need to get credit was well.--Coldplay Expért 00:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 27

British Library, Add. 14448

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 06:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Gloria in excelsis Deo, BWV 191

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk), Eusebeus (talk). Self nom at 20:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • The fact about the early Christians having used that symbol is true, but to mention it also in the hook would make it too long, right? Also it is not part of this article, the first one about a Bach cantata with the new format for the article name, adding the number to the German (or, as in this one and only case, Latin) title. - I doubt, by the way, that the hook fact is so commonly known. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Trema orientalis

leaves of Trema orientalis

Created by Michaelwild (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:10, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  • Date, length and first part of the hook are Ok. I object the second part because it is based on a single study by Cameroon scientists which showed effect for a certain type of rats only. Maybe mentioning other medical use (e.g. traditional medicine)? Materialscientist (talk) 08:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Paul Des Jardien

Paul Des Jardien

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 07:54, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Charley Barrett

Charley Barrett

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 07:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Yup. radek (talk) 05:24, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Stan Pennock

Stan Pennock

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 07:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Huntington Hardwick

"Tack" Hardwick

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 07:21, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Ola Bauer

5x expanded by Decltype (talk). Self nom at 22:09, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Greek Orthodox Church of the Annunciation

The spring situated at the end of the subterranean chamber in the church in modern times

5x expanded by Tiamut (talk). Nominated by Tiamut (talk) at 17:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Friary Church of St Francis and St Anthony, Crawley

Front view of a brown- and red-brick building with five steps up to a round-arched window, above which are five narrow, tall rectangular windows. A shallow tiled roof rises behind. The steps are flanked by black railings and low brick walls. Cars are parked on both sides.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 21:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

William McEwan

Front of a two storey Edwardian house, with a gravel approach, surrounded by ball-shaped plants on grass

5x expanded by Mattbr (talk). Self nom at 17:27, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Treaty of Altranstädt (1707)

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 14:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Treaty of Altranstädt (1706), Treaty of Thorn (1709)

Augustus II the Strong of Poland

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 14:00, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Ronald Levy

5x expanded by Mbz1 (talk). Nominated by Mbz1 (talk) at 18:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

removed. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Pepper v Hart

Tanner Springs Park

Tanner Springs Park

Created by Another Believer (talk), Tedder (talk). Nominated by Tedder (talk) at 09:12, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Fort Conger

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 06:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Oryzomys albiventer

Oryzomys albiventer

  • ... that although much of its habitat has been destroyed, isolated populations of the Mexican rice rat Oryzomys albiventer (pictured) likely still survive?
  • Comment: Suggestions for a better-phrased, or even entirely different, hook welcome. The source for this hook is Carleton and Arroyo-Cabrales 2009 , p. 115.

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 03:07, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 26

South Park Blocks

Created by Another Believer (talk), Tedder (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 17:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Tuanaitau F. Tuia

The American Samoan Fono.

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Scanlan (talk) at 04:05, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Burleigh Cruikshank and Haps Benfer

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 07:15, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Director Park

Created by Another Believer (talk), Tedder (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 18:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Andrew Birch

  • ... that Andrew Birch collated many manuscripts housed in several European countries?

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 13:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Henry Barron (judge)

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 04:29, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

  • The article is poorly written, with lots of simple sentences in the format of "He did x. He did y." It reads almost like a "See Spot run" elementary reader. I think you can do better than that. Gatoclass (talk) 08:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Po James

Created by Eagles247 (talk). Self nom at 20:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Turning Home

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Nominated by TenPoundHammer (talk) at 18:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Xeros Ltd.

  • ... that Xeros Ltd. is developing a washing machine that will use nylon chips instead of water to clean clothes?

Created by E2eamon (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 05:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I have tried to make it less so with wording like "claims to", "attempts", etc. It is still not perfect- if someone else could help, I would appreciate it. I still think it is a good canidate for DYK, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by E2eamon (talkcontribs) 05:40, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
With recent changes by Titan One, could someone re-evaluate this page for DYK?E2eamon (talk) 14:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

at least not in its current state. The article still needs copyedit (e.g. it says the technology is being developed, but later that it has been developed), however, the major point is this: the article is about commercial work in progress, thus featuring it would look like promotion of that company. An article about the principles behind the technology might be acceptable, but this would require renaming and major rewrite. Materialscientist (talk) 12:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree that it's a little spammy. It also has some unverified claims and speculation/original research. – ukexpat (talk) 22:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

J.W. Knapp Company Building

Created by Nyttend (talk). Nominated by Fladrif (talk) at 18:25, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

  • I listed this as a new article, but it probably should be listed as an expansion. It was spun off from J.W. Knapp Company, by Nyttend, which I had expanded considerably in the last couple of days. Prior to the expansion, the parent article contained a single sentence relating to the building. The spun-off article far exceeds 5-fold expansion of the relevant text. Fladrif (talk) 18:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
  • If this is approved, I shouldn't be created as the author, since Fladrif did all the work. Nyttend (talk) 23:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
    Removed your name from credits. Please shout if I misunderstood your comment above. Date, fact (POVish, but from US government site) and length verified (recent info, no matter the spin-off). Suggest ALT1

Articles created/expanded on February 25

John Virginius Bennes

Geiser Grand Hotel

Created by ChildofMidnight (talk). Nominated by ChildofMidnight (talk) at 03:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Gaius Iunius Bubulcus Brutus

Created by Cynwolfe (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 03:20, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


List of Academy Award Winning Families

Created by Klantry01 (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Slug (Passengers song)

Created by User:MelicansMatkin (talk). Nominated by MelicansMatkin (talk) at 00:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Barbarian II: The Dungeon of Drax

Eadweard Muybridge's photographs of a man's leap over a hurdle

5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 22:40, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

5x expansion from 1170 bytes (203 words) to 12 kilobytes (1926 words). Jappalang (talk) 22:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Kallina House, Hönigsberg & Deutsch

Created by Timbouctou (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Jan de Jong

Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 06:04, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


Dams in Burma

  • ... that the total installed Hydroelectric generating capacity of the Dams in Burma in 2010 is at least 2,449 MW, only 6% of estimated potential?

Created by Marcus334 (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Cited references (5 and 8) dated 2003, says "Existing hydropower plants constitute 360 MW (30% of the generating capacity), and hence only 1% of the exploitable potential has been developed." Exploitable hydro potential being 39,624 MW. (360 / 39,624= .009 = .9%, say 1%)
6% figure comes from updated existing hydro output (of commissioned plants #1-19) of at least 2,449 MW. (2,449 MW / 39,624 MW = .061 = 6.1%).--Marcus334 (talk) 04:17, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 24

Gächinger Kantorei, Bach-Collegium Stuttgart

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

suggesting to post it on the composer's 325th birthday, still celebrated ("Old Style Date") 21 March. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

George Fielding Eliot

Created by Edison (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Augochlora leptoloba

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 23:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I have avoided that hook as it is applicable to almost all the extinct insect taxa articles i have been writing. Out of curiosity what is not interesting about the fuzzy hook?--Kevmin (talk) 20:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
What is not interesting about it is that it doesn't make clear that this is an exceptional characteristic for a bee. How do I know that all bees don't have short hairs on their legs? Gatoclass (talk) 08:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
alt1 that the extinct sweat bee Augochlora leptoloba is known from a single specimen now in a private collection in Turin, Italy?

--Kevmin (talk) 05:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Couldnt confirm from source, could you give a page number please? Gatoclass (talk) 16:01, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
The type information for the species is on page 81 which notes the specimen is in the "MACT" collection. The abbreviations section on page 9 notes MACT is the Morone Amber Collection, Turin, Italy, E. Morone and the Engel 1995 reference has been added which notes the collection is a private collection of E. Morone.--Kevmin (talk) 21:02, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

We've got quite a number of hooks recently saying that an insect "is known from a single specimen" or close to it. Please try finding something else. Materialscientist (talk) 07:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I still like the first hook to be honest, but I will see what I can find.--Kevmin (talk) 19:15, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Kevmin, sorry, I just realized that Gato actually asked for a "known from a single specimen" hook, and that there weren't so may of those as I thought (well, one in Q6 now). Thus, finding something else would be fine, but if not, I myself won't dare to reject ALT1. Materialscientist (talk) 00:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Svetlana Shkolina, Meike Kröger

Created by Geschichte (talk) and Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 22:37, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

  • I and Rjanag have concerns about low numbers here: 2.00 was cleared around 1980 (at least I saw an official 1981 indoors result above 2.00). This hook would sound strange as we all expect progress and personal one might not impress the audience. Maybe convert 2.00 numbers in terms of medals in the hook? Materialscientist (talk) 05:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • You have read that Kröger has not won any medals, right (except silver and bronze on national level). Furthermore I don't quite see how 2.00 metres is a low result: in reading lists of medalists in Olympic Games, Worlds and World Indoors, it becomes clear that 2.00 normally is good enough for silver or even gold. Geschichte (talk) 20:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Oh dear, they (women) apparently jump even lower now than in 1980s .. No hard feeling at all, but the hook does read as a personal training progress, which I'm not happy to have on the main page. To me, it is like stretching the DYK notability acceptance a bit too far. Materialscientist (talk) 00:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
  • That could be to do with tighter restrictions on technology - don't know much about high jumping but I seem to recall that certain types of poles were banned a while back. Gatoclass (talk) 11:02, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

:*ALT1a: ... that high jumper Meike Kröger spent a period from 2005 to 2006 working in an orphanage in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan? Geschichte (talk) 14:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Paul I, 1st Prince Esterházy of Galántha

Paul I, 1st Prince Esterházy of Galántha

Created by Caponer (talk). Nominated by Caponer (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 23

List of National Basketball Association season rebounding leaders

Created by Chrishomingtang (talk). Nominated by Chrishomingtang (talk) at 19:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


Mujir al-Din al-'Ulaymi

Tomb of Mujir al-Din

Created by Tiamut (talk), Huldra (talk). Nominated by Tiamut (talk) at 13:21, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Condition of averages

Reduced payout

  • ... that insurers use the condition of average to reduce insurance claims if they think you are underinsured?

Created by ML5 (talk). Nominated by ML5 (talk) at 22:33, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Gertrude Simmons Burlingham

Created by Circeus (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Good for her... academia is overrated... but the article doesnt say she taught high school biology, only that she never taught at the college level.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:57, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
    • The full sentence in the first paragraph of the bio section clearly says "From 1898 to her retirement in 1934, she taught high-school biology in Binghamton and Brooklyn, but despite earning a Ph.D. from Columbia University in 1908, never taught at college level." Am I missing something obvious there? Circéus (talk) 16:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
      • I think Thelmadatter is saying that the hook makes it sounds like all she ever did in life was teach high school biology (it's somewhat ambiguous). Whereas the source simply talks about teaching. Jujutacular  20:14, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

The hook doesn't make sense to me - plenty of scientists never teach classes, and there is no any relation between professional recognition and teaching activity. Materialscientist (talk) 07:27, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I would disagree with that. What is surprising is not that she didn't teach at university level, but rather that she only taught below college level and was apparently not hired to do research at all. It is also rather surprising that someone recognized as a research scholar chooses to seek employment as a high-school teacher (which doesn't include any research responsibilities)and not at university level (which usually combines research and teaching responsibilities).·Maunus·ƛ· 13:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, this might be unusual, but I couldn't get that picture by reading the hook. Materialscientist (talk) 00:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

T in the Park 2010

Created by SteelersFan UK06 (talk). Nominated by SteelersFan UK06 (talk) at 03:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


Variation of Trusts Act 1958

Eddie "Guitar" Burns

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 17:20, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


Cream Holdings Ltd v Banerjee and the Liverpool Post and Echo Ltd

Articles created/expanded on February 22

M-52 (Michigan highway

  • ALT1:... that southbound M-52 in downtown Adrian, Michigan carries both the north and southbound directions of the US 223 business loop in town?
  • Comment: I've delayed this nomination a bit. There is a map being made to illustrate this strange highway routing that will be added to the article shortly. The first revision of this map is at File:Adrian MI road map.svg, but it will be updated to zoom in on the one-way street routings better before it added to the article.

5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 06:30, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

  • It took me a little while of rereading the explanation and looking at the map to get this. If I understand correctly, Church, Broad, Front, and Winter Streets function almost like a giant traffic circle or roundabout around the downtown? BUS 223N makes a 3/4 circle, of which the first part is concurrent with M-52 N and the second part concurrent with M-52 S. Do you think the wording in the article could be improved to better explain this? Thanks, cmadler (talk) 19:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I added some arrows and placed the directional plates above the shields on the map. In the process of editing the map, I removed all the extra street names. I know that that at standard thumbnail size the plates don't show up that well, but short of forcing the map to a larger size, I'm not sure what the solution is. Any copy editing suggestions are appreciated. Imzadi1979 (talk) 14:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I think that's much more clear, both in text and the map. I don't really have any ideas for the issue with the plates on the map. Forcing it to a larger size seems like the only option there. I think it's usually frowned on, but maybe in this case it would be appropriate to add something like "click map for larger image" or "click to enlarge map" to the caption. cmadler (talk) 16:14, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Length & expansion are good. The hooked fact appears to be cited to this map, but the map doesn't clearly support that fact. Add a source that more clearly supports this fact, and then this will be good for DYK. cmadler (talk) 19:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

The Google Maps page does show the one-way streets and the shields for the route markings, though not the north/south designations. I'm going to ask for another editor to comment here on whether that's sufficient, and whether Google Maps is considered a reliable source in this regard. cmadler (talk) 10:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Ferdinand Julian Egeberg, Egebergs Ærespris

  • ... that chamberlain Egeberg established a sports prize that was regarded the highest achievement in Norwegian sports?

Created (1) and expanded (1) by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Light Attack/Armed Reconnaissance

Created by SidewinderX (talk). Self nom at 18:44, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Replaced "looking for" with "procuring". Is this phrasing acceptable? -SidewinderX (talk) 14:36, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 21

José Lázaro Galdiano

  • ... that by the time of his death in 1947 the Spanish financier José Lázaro Galdiano has amassed a collection of over 12,600 art works, mainly by European Old Masters?

Created and nomed by Ceoil 16:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Tweaked, thanks. Ceoil 20:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 20

James Arthur Flesher

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Nominated by Ingolfson (talk) at 05:50, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 works for me - thanks for the suggestion! To comply with the DYK rules, one of the references would have to be shifted immediately after this fact, but that's easy to do. If some reviewer would like me to do so, please let me know (I'll keep an eye on this page). Schwede66 07:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
ALT3 is different to ALT2 by the use of British English (probably more appropriate for an article from New Zealand) only. Thanks for having a look at this, Gatoclass - much appreciated. Schwede66 04:43, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Why not utilise/utilize "used" in lieu of "utilised"/"utilized"? --74.14.23.117 (talk) 15:35, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your useful comment - I'll utiliz/se that! Schwede66 17:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Added relevant wp link to alt4. - Dravecky (talk) 07:43, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT4 preferred, ALT2 and ALT3 also confirmed. Note: Three citations are provided for this claim. Citation 2 appears reliable but makes no mention of the house being used as a community center; it appears to have been written while the renovation was still ongoing. Citation 6 is a blog on Blogspot, and therefore probably not suitable as a reliable source. Citation 7 seems reliable, although it's a primary source; however, I can not find any requirement in DYK that the citation must be to a secondary source, and primary sources are allowed, though discouraged. cmadler (talk) 16:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Michel Hansenne

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 15:56, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Article does contain 1621 characters of "readable prose" and the dates & references check out but this biography is essentially an untagged stub with just one section and no infobox. Also, while not every hook has to be shocking or fascinating, surely there's something that can be said about Hansenne that's more interesting than the hook presented. - Dravecky (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Articles created/expanded for International Women's Day (March 8)

Terri Scott

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 11:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

minor change to hook Victuallers (talk) 16:42, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Dates and ALT hook check out OK. Article length meets the criteria, but the article itself seems rather "thin" to me. In particular, the statements about her favourite movie and song, mountain climbing, and swimming seem like padding added to what would otherwise be a very short article. Is there anything more that can be said about her professional accomplishments? (Why did she et the award, for example?) --Orlady (talk) 05:25, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Any progress on this? It's already March 8th in the United States and it would be a shame for the date to slip by and this hook not be ready for the main page. - Dravecky (talk) 07:04, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Elżbieta Sieniawska

Elżbieta Sieniawska as Minerva

ALT1:... that Elżbieta Sieniawska (pictured) was the most powerful woman in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth during the reign of Augustus II the Strong? BurgererSF (talk) 12:12, 12 February 2010 (UTC) Created by BurgererSF (talk) 11:35, 8 February 2010 (UTC) Self nom.

Articles created/expanded for Saint Patrick's Day (March 17)

Postmasters General of Ireland

Created by Ww2censor (talk). Self nom at 17:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Brian Jennings (journalist)

Created by Cargoking (talk). Nominated by Cargoking (talk) at 18:12, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Adrian Crowley

Adrian Crowley
Adrian Crowley
Adrian Crowley
Adrian Crowley

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 21:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Season of the Sparks

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 21:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Long Distance Swimmer

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 02:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

West Jewellers

Tara Brooch
Tara Brooch

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded for April Fools' Day (April 1)

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Tickle Cock Bridge

  • ... that it is believed Tickle Cock Bridge in England received its name because of what young men and women got up to beneath it?

Created by Malleus Fatuorum (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

  • The article only says that one person thought that might be the reason for the name. Perhaps something like "it is believed Tickle Cock Bridge..." -- BigDom 21:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Can we have 'people' instead of 'boys and girls': boys and boys might just as well have got up to such shenanigans ...82.32.238.139 (talk) 16:37, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
I've added the word 'that' back to the beginning of the hook, as required. Remember, hooks are the latter part of a sentence that begins, "Did you know...," thus the requirement. Marylanderz (talk) 21:56, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
"Did you know it is believed that ..." works perfectly well. --Malleus Fatuorum 15:14, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
That they were males and females, not just "people", is significant. --Malleus Fatuorum 15:12, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
How about "beneath" instead of "underneath", the three syllables are a tad cumbersome? --Fred the Oyster (talk) 18:47, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
That seems like a reasonable suggestion, changed. --Malleus Fatuorum 20:00, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
I wonder if they were tipped off? --Fred the Oyster (talk) 21:04, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
How about, purely to make middle Americans sit up and take note of course, Tickle Cock Bridge was so-named because of its popularity as a venue for mutual masturbation. That should get it noticed I would have thought! --Fred the Oyster (talk) 01:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
When one of these hooks is approved, how about reserving it for April Fool's Day? Imzadi1979 (talk) 15:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I second April Fools Day.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Alt3 is the strongest, imo, just work in the phrase lovers lane into the page. Never head of the phrase 'monkey run', its a horrible turn, but I like it. Ceoil 16:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
ALT3 is nice, but I'm afraid it's not accurate. I've added an explanatory note on the meaning of the British slang term "monkey run": "streets where groups of young people paraded up and down, usually at weekends, in the hope of 'clicking' with somebody". There was no impropriety, and certainly nothing like what goes on down "lovers lanes", despite the rather bawdy name. That's why I proposed the rather ambiguous "because of what young men and women got up to beneath it". --Malleus Fatuorum 00:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
ALT5 ... that Tickle Cock Bridge has been described as frightening to walk through? Calmer Waters 02:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I think the April Fools suggestion is an extremely good one. Raul654 (talk) 02:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Good to go IMHO. I like Calmer Water's hook and If we use this one, I vote that it be saved for April 1st.--Coldplay Expért 23:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I quite like Calmer Water's hook as well, and I'd have no objection to this being put into the queue for April 1. --Malleus Fatuorum 03:38, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
One does not walk through a bridge, however. Parrot of Doom 18:58, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps "traverse" or "negotiate" instead? Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:28, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I think in this case you do walk through it, as "Tickle Cock Bridge" is the name of the underpass. --Malleus Fatuorum 17:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

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