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This template was considered for deletion on 2008 December 2. The result of the discussion was "keep".

Deletion

This purely-presentational template is purportedly for "name/surname disambiguation in lead sections, and all-caps words or pronounceable acronyms", but none of those require small caps and in few cases would it seem to be desirable. We shouldn't encourage users to experiment with presentational markup like this by having templates for it. It should be deleted. I'll renom assuming that there's no counter-argument. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 16:01, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

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The deletion notice is defacing dozens of articles. Since the discussion is clearly heading for a keep, please remove the notice (and speedy close the discussion).--Kotniski (talk) 14:19, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Done — {{Nihiltres|talk|log}} 19:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Purpose of this template

Now that the TfD has been closed (and the term "speedy keep" bandied about without people apparently having read what that entails), discussion will need to continue here. In the TfD, the following points where made:

• The markup is useful for templates, including pronunciation guidelines;
• It is inappropriately used.

As such, I'd like to clarify where and when it should be used. Right now the documentation says "You can most especially use this template for name/surname disambiguation in lead sections, and all-caps words or pronounceable acronyms". This obviously isn't right: the MoS encourages users not to overuse markup, and so we should not be encouraging its use willy-nilly.

I propose updating the documentation to say the following:

• Ideally, it should only be used in templates;
• It should not be used for any of the old reasons: name/surname disambiguation using capitalisation is uncommonly-used in English-speaking territories, and it is excessive markup in the other two cases.

Furthermore, instances in which is is used for inappropriate reasons in articles should be removed. Suggestions? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 12:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I've now updated the documentation to reflect this. I'll go through transclusions and remove inappropriate ones later. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 12:46, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

So now the lead says not to use it for family names, and the #Reasons to use section says to use it for that purpose. This contradiction should be resolved. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Resolved, by removing the invalid examples. Cheers. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 08:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Adding a classname

{{editprotected}} Can we add a classname to this, so that (a) people who want to override the formatting can do so in their user CSS and (b) we can move the inline style declaration into the core stylesheets (which is better coding practice).

Please replace the current content with:

<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">{{{1}}}</span><noinclude>
{{documentation}}<!-- PLEASE ADD DOCUMENTATION/CATEGORIES/INTERWIKIS TO THE /doc SUBPAGE, THANKS--></noinclude>

, where the only edit, thus, is the insertion of class="smallcaps". This will have no inadvertent side-effects.

Thanks! — OwenBlacker (Talk) 14:47, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

(a)  Done (b) you have to understand that we have a LOT of css. In general styling that is used on as "relatively" few pages as this case, are not added to the global css. This is because the increased size of the global css page, downloaded for all users for all pages, would be a bigger disadvantage, than increased page sizes for a few articles downloaded by a few people. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit request

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hi, i think that the last part of modern toltecs is no sense, can you take it out, please, it does not write references, and has no meaning at all, in realtion with the real arqueological study. --Ivanpares (talk) 00:33, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Ivanpares (talk) 00:33, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

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