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Sorry, I assumed the page was autobiographical nonsense on the part of the user. Thanks for correcting the mistake. <b><font face="Verdana" size="4" color="#FF0000">]</font></b> (]) 20:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC) Sorry, I assumed the page was autobiographical nonsense on the part of the user. Thanks for correcting the mistake. <b><font face="Verdana" size="4" color="#FF0000">]</font></b> (]) 20:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


== Re: DO NOT accuse me of bias == ==Re: DO NOT accuse me of bias==

In my time here, I have never been biased in my actions, so is both uncalled for and a personal attack. I resent the implication. --] - '']'' - ] 19:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC) In my time here, I have never been biased in my actions, so is both uncalled for and a personal attack. I resent the implication. --] - '']'' - ] 19:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


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::Ah, wikipedia, the characters you attract! O, hypocricy! Walamazoo! --] - '']'' - ] 22:38, 14 January 2006 (UTC) ::Ah, wikipedia, the characters you attract! O, hypocricy! Walamazoo! --] - '']'' - ] 22:38, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


== ] == ==]==

Could you explain why you deleted this article? --] (]) 23:07, 14 January 2006 (UTC) Could you explain why you deleted this article? --] (]) 23:07, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


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::When I look , I see no obvious A7. I see a reasonable stub about a band I don't know. A quick glance at allmusic reveals a bio there (usually a good sign) and a record on ], which is a pretty decent indication that they may meet ] guidelines. I wish you'd be more careful about deletions; I know people have brought up questionable deletions to you before, but you don't seem to be responding to this feedback. Especially when you see that other experienced editors have touched the article, I think it's good to think twice about just deleting it. If you really think it's a speedy, tag it and see how others respond. This isn't much extra work and it's safer. ] ] 23:17, 14 January 2006 (UTC) ::When I look , I see no obvious A7. I see a reasonable stub about a band I don't know. A quick glance at allmusic reveals a bio there (usually a good sign) and a record on ], which is a pretty decent indication that they may meet ] guidelines. I wish you'd be more careful about deletions; I know people have brought up questionable deletions to you before, but you don't seem to be responding to this feedback. Especially when you see that other experienced editors have touched the article, I think it's good to think twice about just deleting it. If you really think it's a speedy, tag it and see how others respond. This isn't much extra work and it's safer. ] ] 23:17, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


== Request for creamy goodness == ==Request for creamy goodness==

I'm disappointed at your response to your ]. Do you think it would be wise to take criticism to heart rather than reacting with scorn? ] ] 21:35, 14 January 2006 (UTC) I'm disappointed at your response to your ]. Do you think it would be wise to take criticism to heart rather than reacting with scorn? ] ] 21:35, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


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::Sorry if I misinterpreted your response. But I still don't see that your reponse is useful, or relevant to the concerns that have been brought up. ] ] 23:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC) ::Sorry if I misinterpreted your response. But I still don't see that your reponse is useful, or relevant to the concerns that have been brought up. ] ] 23:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
:::It's a request for comment, and I am free to completely ignore it if I wish, which I will continue to do (in substance). Of course my respons wasn't useful, I did not intend it to be - I was simply asking, if they must comment on me, to please formalize the discourse. --] - '']'' - ] 23:27, 14 January 2006 (UTC) :::It's a request for comment, and I am free to completely ignore it if I wish, which I will continue to do (in substance). Of course my respons wasn't useful, I did not intend it to be - I was simply asking, if they must comment on me, to please formalize the discourse. --] - '']'' - ] 23:27, 14 January 2006 (UTC)



Hi, I would be grateful if you would take the time to respond to some of the comments made at your ]. Thanks, ] (] | ] | ]) 23:53, 14 January 2006 (UTC) Hi, I would be grateful if you would take the time to respond to some of the comments made at your ]. Thanks, ] (] | ] | ]) 23:53, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
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:There is a huge difference to your club and an international fraternity. --] - '']'' - ] 14:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC) :There is a huge difference to your club and an international fraternity. --] - '']'' - ] 14:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


==Stop==
==(False accusations)==
Stop harassing other users - specifically Massiveego - just because they disagree with you. I have also warned BDAbramson for similar behaviour. ] 13:41, 15 January 2006 (UTC) Stop harassing other users - specifically Massiveego - just because they disagree with you. I have also warned BDAbramson for similar behaviour. ] 13:41, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:Hello, FSF. I dissagree with the contention that it is "harassment." I simply illuminated a voting pattern that should be taken into consideration. And while it was only in the RfA in which I am interested, it was just not because I disagreed with him - I respect his right to vote, and speak his mind. Calling what I did "harassment" is also certainly your right, I guess, but I feel it is over-the-top and ''completely uncalled for'', as this is my ''only'' interaction with Massiveego. Nor, for that matter, do I regularly "harass" anyone else, as you seem to be accusing me of doing by using the plural above. I'd wish you good day, but that might be considered harassment. --] - '']'' - ] 13:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC) :Hello, FSF. I dissagree with the contention that it is "harassment." I simply illuminated a voting pattern that should be taken into consideration. And while it was only in the RfA in which I am interested, it was just not because I disagreed with him - I respect his right to vote, and speak his mind. Calling what I did "harassment" is also certainly your right, I guess, but I feel it is over-the-top and ''completely uncalled for'', as this is my ''only'' interaction with Massiveego. Nor, for that matter, do I regularly "harass" anyone else, as you seem to be accusing me of doing by using the plural above. I'd wish you good day, but that might be considered harassment. --] - '']'' - ] 13:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
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:::I did ''not'' tell ''anyone'' to discount ''anything'', ''anywhere''. Please don't put words in my mouth, and once again, do not accuse me of a pattern of non-existant "harassment." :::I did ''not'' tell ''anyone'' to discount ''anything'', ''anywhere''. Please don't put words in my mouth, and once again, do not accuse me of a pattern of non-existant "harassment."
:::And, I'm changing the header again.--] - '']'' - ] 14:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC) :::And, I'm changing the header again.--] - '']'' - ] 14:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Since you decided to ignore my warning I've blocked you for 3 hours. ] 14:26, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Revision as of 14:26, 15 January 2006

Welcome to my talk page

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Old School Babylon 5 fan.
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Patience....
I am rather inconsistent here; sometimes I'll reply to you here, and sometimes at your user page. Also, I tend to archive things en masse rather than monthly. The most recent archiving was January 12th. Additionally, I reserve the right to refactor comments, and remove personal attacks and other nonsense. And if I have just speedied your page, please see the note on my user page first. So warned, talk at will!


Items older than a month or so which are not part of an active discussion are in the Archives.



Arbitration Commitee

"For reasons all my own, I do not recognize the authority of the Arbitration Committee." - Are you serious, or is this meant humorously? exolon 02:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

The current Arbcom is a disaster. My statement is serious. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 03:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Also, this is not a statement on my views about the people on Arbcom, who are all fine editors. Nor will I ever do anything to obstruct arbcom. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 03:25, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


WP:FARC

First, let me thank you (if I have not already) for the sterling work that you do in making the decisions on FARC. I notice that you have "kept" Iowa class battleship and removed {{farc}} from the talk page. Just so you know, there is a template {{farcfailed}} that can be added so readers and editors can find the archived discussion in the future. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:31, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Ahhh, THAT'S the template. For the life of me, I couldn't remeber what it was when I closed it today, and was going to go back to an older kept article to find it later today when I got done with this round of Newpage patrol. Thanks for the heads up. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 10:34, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
No problem - the template is probably mentioned on the Talk page (or one of its archives). -- ALoan (Talk) 10:54, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Larry mullen jr

Do you know Larry mullen jr is the drummer for U2. What is the problem in me posting a link to a page about Larry? He plays the drums for the band the page is about, U2. You are out of order deleting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keepitlive (talkcontribs)

Um...... What? --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 18:28, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Urm http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=U2&action=history shamone! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.209.126.189 (talkcontribs)
So I take it you are the vandal 172.209.126.189 who was reverted by multiple admins and who I blocked for vandalising the U2 page. Don't say anything else lest ye wish more blockage, shamone! --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 18:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Block me if you like but I was not the original vandal. All I did was add a link to the page about the drummer. It was user Kristbg who kept vandalising my link.
Now go ahead and block me permanently, this isn't my usual isp.... Shamone! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.209.126.189 (talkcontribs)
If you insist... --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 18:51, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Bounty Source

Why do you keep deleting the entry that I (as well as others) keep creating for Bounty Source? Yes, the first time I created this article, it was a direct copy and paste from the website itself. But the latest entry contained entirely original text and none of it what-so-ever directly came from the www.bountysource.com website. - User:wkonkel

Jeffrey:
Having looked over the issue, I agree with User:wkonkel. The latest iteration of the page doesn't appear to be a copyvio, and you can't G4 a page that hasn't gone through AFD. I agree that the page deserves deletion, but I think it would be best to let AFD sort it out.
All the best.
Ξxtreme Unction|yakkity yak 20:45, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
I misinterpreted the current page as a recreation of the currently closed AfD for the article. Looking at it though, good call on reversing me. (Though, someone'll need to update the AfD to reflect the change). --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 20:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Both of you: thanks. Wkonkel 21:00, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
No worries. I reopened the AFD and left Johntex a note on his talk page. Ξxtreme Unction|yakkity yak 21:02, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

PDS

Hi Jeffrey, 67.132.42.130 is the IP of Princeton Day School. Some kids at our school contribute useful edits to Misplaced Pages while other kids may sometimes vandalize. I don't think it's fair to block the whole URL on account of a few kids. And also Mr. Downey acknowledges that he is a closet communist. Thanks for keeping our article to standard though. -Mendy Fisch

WP:NPA

You wrote:

That's right. Because if he's elected, Arbcom will be destroyed. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 01:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC) This candidate really is just plain awful. Seriously. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 08:16, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

This really isn't necessary, is it? It isn't very civil, and is violating NPA. Just try to keep things in mind. Thanks. --LV 02:43, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm.... Although true, it was innapropriate. I've stricken the last part out, but not my support. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 11:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, I wasn't making any value judgments on the truthfulness of the statement, but sometimes, even obvious things should probably go unsaid. Thanks, and sorry to have to bring it up. See you around, my friend. --LV 16:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
There is no need to apologize, calling me on it was called for. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 16:34, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named sees Dead People

RE: WP:MW... yes, I know about it, but I was being serious. Someone you might consider a "friend" here on Misplaced Pages (or some quiet editor who just goes about her business) might just not show up one day. You might think they took a wikibreak, or decided to leave WP, but they might actually have left this world. People who have made good, unheralded additions to WP, just die. Does anyone notice? Does anyone really care to what happens to someone possibly halfway around the world who they talked to once or twice over the Internet? It's just a sad proposition... sorry for the diatribe. Enough melancholy... here's a happy article. Cheers. --LV 02:08, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

A. O. L. Atkin

You deleted A. O. L. Atkin while I was editing it. I typed up a stub, and was just about to expand it. There were a number of things wrong with what you did: (1) Please don't delete articles seconds after they're created without even tagging them. (2) Please don't delete articles without checking who created them. I am a long-time admin, and I would be unlikely to create non-notable articles without reason. You might have asked why I created it. (3) If you had checked "what links here" to the page, you would have seen that quite a few articles link to this person, who is notable.

Anyway, now I am undeleting the article and going back to work on it. —Lowellian (reply) 18:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Your work on new pages patrol is appreciated, and I understand sometimes these things happen. —Lowellian (reply) 02:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

bolsvandia

have you not read the article, it tells you why there are less than a dozens unique hits

Template:Dangh

Can you restore this please? I use it to list articles for deletion, as I find it quicker than the {afd} tag. If I have to put it in a user subpage, then can it be at something like {User:Danghdel}} or something? Thanks. --Dangherous 19:59, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk to the admin that deleted it. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 20:01, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: The Other Me

Sorry, I assumed the page was autobiographical nonsense on the part of the user. Thanks for correcting the mistake. haz (user talk) 20:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: DO NOT accuse me of bias

In my time here, I have never been biased in my actions, so This edit is both uncalled for and a personal attack. I resent the implication. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 19:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

That's an absurd overreaction. You should apologise to me for shouting on my user page. Calsicol 21:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Ah, wikipedia, the characters you attract! O, hypocricy! Walamazoo! --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 22:38, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Kingmaker (band)

Could you explain why you deleted this article? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:07, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

The version that existed - as "Kingmaker(" - was a decided and very obvious A7. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 23:01, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I disagree. Note also that I had copy-edited and expanded the article, and moved it to ], before you deleted it. It would, at the very least, have been courteous to have contacted those who were editing it before deleting it. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:07, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
When I look here, I see no obvious A7. I see a reasonable stub about a band I don't know. A quick glance at allmusic reveals a bio there (usually a good sign) and a record on Chrysalis Records, which is a pretty decent indication that they may meet WP:MUSIC guidelines. I wish you'd be more careful about deletions; I know people have brought up questionable deletions to you before, but you don't seem to be responding to this feedback. Especially when you see that other experienced editors have touched the article, I think it's good to think twice about just deleting it. If you really think it's a speedy, tag it and see how others respond. This isn't much extra work and it's safer. Friday (talk) 23:17, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Request for creamy goodness

I'm disappointed at your response to your RFC. Do you think it would be wise to take criticism to heart rather than reacting with scorn? Friday (talk) 21:35, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Scorn? No. Look at the edit summary: kersploosh. That's what I genuinely think about it. It's kersplooshy. Absurd. Slightly humorous. And it's an entirely retional request to be referred to in the formal in such a formal setting, no? --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 22:38, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Sorry if I misinterpreted your response. But I still don't see that your reponse is useful, or relevant to the concerns that have been brought up. Friday (talk) 23:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
It's a request for comment, and I am free to completely ignore it if I wish, which I will continue to do (in substance). Of course my respons wasn't useful, I did not intend it to be - I was simply asking, if they must comment on me, to please formalize the discourse. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 23:27, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I would be grateful if you would take the time to respond to some of the comments made at your request for comments. Thanks, Talrias (t | e | c) 23:53, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi Talrias. I respect your right to bring an RFC on me, and for others to comment as well. Aside from my request for more formality in the proceedings, I have nothing to say that would be productive. Thank you for taking time in this matter. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 23:56, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Since you've replied here as well, I'll also reply here (you don't need to copy it across to my talk page). What I and others would like to see is a reply stating how you will change (or not change) your behaviour based on this RFC. I have changed it as you have requested. Talrias (t | e | c) 00:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Technically, you have not, and my reply above still stands for the time being. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:40, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mr. Gustafson, I don't think that having an RFC exist against you is a statement that you're unfit for what you do (I've had an RFC against me before too). But what RFCs do is juxtapose the way that different people look at the project, and their goal is to result in the kind of consensus that makes the Misplaced Pages project a reality. It would be very helpful if you could at least state your position on the issue on the RFC page. Thanks, silsor 00:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but giving my opinion (which I do have) on the matter will not make a difference. In, um, anything, really, let alone forming policy consensus. Is it not enough that I am aware of it and am taking each argument and comment in good faith? --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 01:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
I was referring to consensus of action among users, not policy consensus. In this case I personally am content if you at least consider your future actions in light of of arguments and comments made in the RFC. silsor 01:08, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Of course I've considered them, and a reply is not necessary for me to prove that. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 01:15, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Speedy

Hi. Yesterday I uploaded an article refered to a RPG club in Madrid (Cd-crom) but it has been deleted. Before rewriting it I would like to know why you considered that article had no space in wikipedia.

Per our most basic inclusion guidlines, your club does not meet our standards. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 13:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Could you explain please what is the difference between our club and LUDD or Lambda Alpha Chi? Maybe if we introduce a whole set of our activities could we gain access to wikipedia? (I agree that the article was too short).

We are a ever-growing club with 250 members in 12 years of existance, with activities during all the year and probably the biggest club about RPGs in Madrid.

Thank you.

There is a huge difference to your club and an international fraternity. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 14:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Stop

Stop harassing other users - specifically Massiveego - just because they disagree with you. I have also warned BDAbramson for similar behaviour. freestylefrappe 13:41, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello, FSF. I dissagree with the contention that it is "harassment." I simply illuminated a voting pattern that should be taken into consideration. And while it was only in the RfA in which I am interested, it was just not because I disagreed with him - I respect his right to vote, and speak his mind. Calling what I did "harassment" is also certainly your right, I guess, but I feel it is over-the-top and completely uncalled for, as this is my only interaction with Massiveego. Nor, for that matter, do I regularly "harass" anyone else, as you seem to be accusing me of doing by using the plural above. I'd wish you good day, but that might be considered harassment. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 13:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Really? Telling the beauracrat to discount his vote is not harassment? This voting pattern doesnt exist. If you had actually looked at his voting you'd see he's supporting another user who meets his standards. I also don't appreciate you modifying my comments . freestylefrappe 14:03, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
I did not tell anyone to discount anything, anywhere. Please don't put words in my mouth, and once again, do not accuse me of a pattern of non-existant "harassment."
And, I'm changing the header again.--Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 14:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Since you decided to ignore my warning I've blocked you for 3 hours. freestylefrappe 14:26, 15 January 2006 (UTC)