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This article talk page was automatically added with {{tl|WikiProject Food and drink}} banner as it falls under ] or ]. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. The bot was instructed to tagg these articles upon consenus from WikiProject Food and drink. You can find the related request for tagging ] . Maximum caution and careful attention was done to avoid any wrongly tagging any categories , but mistakes may happen... If you have concerns , please inform the project members on the ] -- ] (]) 07:52, 4 July 2008 (UTC) |
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This article talk page was automatically added with {{tl|WikiProject Food and drink}} banner as it falls under ] or ]. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. The bot was instructed to tagg these articles upon consenus from WikiProject Food and drink. You can find the related request for tagging ] . Maximum caution and careful attention was done to avoid any wrongly tagging any categories , but mistakes may happen... If you have concerns , please inform the project members on the ] -- ] (]) 07:52, 4 July 2008 (UTC) |
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Misplaced Pages is not an advertising tool <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Misplaced Pages is not an advertising tool.== |
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Is Misplaced Pages is some kind of Yahoo restaurant guide. This entry should be remove due to the fact its not notable, and contributes to the sum of all human knowlege. This entry appears to be pet project of the owner of this Warnenville restaurant and as such is in violation of a number of Misplaced Pages policy concern such type of free internet advertising. |
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See ] ] (]) 07:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC) |
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: You can propose deletion at ]. ] (]) 07:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC) |
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==Misplaced Pages is not an advertising tool part II== |
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It would be nice if some one would make an augment rather then just use |
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the principal of MIGHT makes RIGHT and my friends are more powerful then your friends. |
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Put up your proof why it's OK for Two Brothers in so special when with other "just as special" |
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bars in the area? Also, Labeling legitimate concerns and edits as "vandalism" is not productive in this discussion and only inflames. See Wikpolicy ] ] ] (]) 02:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC) |
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: I have to agree. This is one of the biggest Who Cares? articles on Wiki. It is clearly an advertisement, doing very little other than listing the company's products for sale. It does not meet Wiki standards for notability. I nominate for deletion. ] (]) 19:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:: I agree, the blocking of this article is abuse of power. This article does not meet the Wiki standards of notability.] (]) 06:51, 16 June 2009 (UTC) |
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On the article it's appears 3 others which consider this article owned, in violation of ] the article and may even have economic interest in it. The article is in violation of numerous Misplaced Pages policy ] ] ] |
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My contention is this place is not that special, there are hundreds of local micro brewerys in the Chicago area, and in fact, It's not unusual to get good press if you advertise heavily in the food section of the Trib and the Daily Harald. This article is a shameful example of wiki for economic gain and misuse of blocking in order to win the argument.] (]) 18:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:You are welcome to submit this article for deletion here: ]. Blanking the article is unacceptable, however, and is considered vandalism, so please refrain from doing this again. ] <small>(])</small> 15:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC) |
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::I would like to submit article for deletions but the form is to complicated to manage. Regarding the economic benefits to the wiki article, that is self evident. Now logic dictates that if the article has economic benefit, then those advocating may have economic interest it the article. That cold hard logic and not having any thing to do with respect for the other editors. I would like you to show me how to add article to the deletion list. ] (]) 06:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:::The same "cold hard logic" could lead a different editor to conclude that your interest in deleting the article is economic as well and that you work for a competitor of Two Brothers Brewing. I'm sure you would not like that, and I again ask that you refrain from making accusations that you would not enjoy being leveled at yourself. Attacking other editors is not conducive to collaborative editing. ] <small>(])</small> 15:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:I also ask that you treat other editors with the respect that you would expect from them. Please refrain from accusations of censorship, economic gain, etc., etc. Thank you. ] <small>(])</small> 15:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC) |
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== brewpub or micro == |
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== brewpub or micro == |
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I wouldn't call Two Brothers a brewpub. They had a microbrewery business for years before they built a bar (which is attached to the brewery) a few years ago. — ] ] 13:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC) |
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I wouldn't call Two Brothers a brewpub. They had a microbrewery business for years before they built a bar (which is attached to the brewery) a few years ago. — ] ] 13:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC) |
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::So, that makes TB, a mini-Old Style brewery. The difference is Pabst/Miller brewing company is noteworthy due to size and time in business (1844) There is nothing special or noteworthy of TB, considering the hundreds of "micro Brewery s in the country . ] (]) 14:23, 14 June 2009 (UTC) |
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::So, that makes TB, a mini-Old Style brewery. The difference is Pabst/Miller brewing company is noteworthy due to size and time in business (1844) There is nothing special or noteworthy of TB, considering the hundreds of "micro Brewery s in the country . ] (]) 14:23, 14 June 2009 (UTC) |
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== Nominated article for deletion == |
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Time to get this blatant advertising removed. However, I'm not sure I followed all the steps properly, so someone may want to go and double check. ] (]) 21:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC) |
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==THIS BLATANT ADVERTISING NEEDS TO BE REMOVED - PRONTO == |
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This article would fit very well on a advertising flyer, stuck to my car window in Warrenville parking lot at the Satisfied Frog pub and grill. This article should be promptly removed, per ], ], ] ], ], ]. unless Two Bothers is paying some at Wikipeidia to have this here? |
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] (]) 09:57, 27 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:You are welcome to submit this to ] for a second reconsideration. ] <small>(])</small> 14:22, 27 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:I don't get it. What do you have against Two Brothers, Joe? They have better beer than Curly's. — ] ] 14:41, 27 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:::What I have against them is the fact it's free advertising for this gin mill, which is inconsistent with Misplaced Pages policy, philosophy, or practice, at lest what I have observed. Since you, seem ignore the logical argument, which in this case is ], ], ] ], ], ], and substitute for your reality, Again, I say This is a blatant case of using Misplaced Pages for profit - see ] and his editing for profit for the precedent ? Now, if you want Two BB on Misplaced Pages, then lets add "Curlys" gin mill as well to Misplaced Pages, in order to round out the this Micheline guide of dupage Brew halls and be fair, assuming you have any sense of fairness Scott? ] (]) 23:53, 27 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Complaining here won't accomplish anything. If you feel it should be deleted, you are welcome to submit this to ] for a second reconsideration. ] <small>(])</small> 01:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Did per instruction and it didn't work.] (]) 02:32, 28 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::Everything looks okay to me. ] <small>(])</small> 15:29, 28 October 2009 (UTC) |
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==Goethean needs to understand the concept of "Compromise"== |
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Hey dud, You can't have it all at the Two Brothers Brewer article. The article has way to much spam in it, I am willing to allow it, (in spite of the fact Misplaced Pages policy of ], ], ] ], ], ], demonstrates Two Brothers is a blatant case of using Misplaced Pages for profit)<br /> Now I am willing to compromise, but you seem to be unwilling. I outline my position, but you just think you own the article and answer to no one, which implies you own it ]. Finely, you seem to be. almost continually embroiled conflict, edit wars and other divisiveness I would hope you start to show some good faith and start learning the art of compromise instead of "my way or no way". Your continued edit war is not good faith and is disruptive. In the end, this article needs shortening , Way to much spam here. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:15, 1 November 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I guess Goethean didn't need to understand. Your audience was never him, it was other disinterested editors.--] (]) 15:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC) |
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==Does Misplaced Pages get paid for this beer advertisement?== |
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This article reads like a beer ad you see on T.V. The glowing advocates, the print endorsements, etc. I thought Misplaced Pages is not about hawking beer. Does the policies like ] , ] and ] mean anything? I am placing a tag on this article and suggesting a discussion on whether this article is legitimate, under wp policy or if this article is a just a advertising for two bothers beer, (in which case wikimeida corp should invoice two bothers for the ad space, or remove this unpaid ad. ] (]) 21:34, 25 March 2010 (UTC) |
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:Not you again, huh?--] (]) 21:39, 25 March 2010 (UTC) |
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Violating ] and ] out of the box - what do you mean by that crack?] (]) 21:43, 25 March 2010 (UTC) |
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:What's this alphabet stuff? You seem familiar to me.--] (]) 21:45, 25 March 2010 (UTC) |
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::I read the "dummies guide to Misplaced Pages" and what difference dose it make to you, unless your the owner of this advertising on wikipeidia, which is contrary to policy. ] (]) 21:51, 25 March 2010 (UTC) |
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:::I wish there was a dummies guide, it would really help me. Come on, you really are the same guy as before, right? I mean, how many people in the world give two sh*ts about this article?--] (]) 05:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC) |
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::::I DO Care, and the idea that "how many give two Sh*ts" is the point. This article is not Notable ] and is bold face advertising ] (unpaid I might add) as well as the precedent with ] deletion. Just because the last ADF failed (due to very aggressive "owner/creator" ] of this this unpaid advertisement), don't mean its right, proper. This article is contrary to Misplaced Pages policy. ] (]) 09:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC) |
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:::::Would you please admit that you are Greenbreww returned under yet another alias first? I mean, I already know you are, but still. Anyway, please note that ] is not yet closed, though its quite likely to be deleted, and i !voted to delete. The cases are quite different, however, because Frenchman Hills Winery has had no press coverage. It has had significantly less press coverage than Two Brothers Brewing. Two Brothers Brewing is actually closer to a huge debate we had recently over ], which was deleted in an AfD, and then reinstated as no consensus on deletion review. Editors can disagree over articles like this (some folks at ] adhere to fairly tough standards for wineries), which do have sufficient coverage to create a verifiable article, but which some still qualitatively judge as "not notable." Two Brothers Brewing has been put up for deletion twice in the past year and kept both times. Not only was it KEPT, it was a unanimous keep on the 1st AFD, and a Snow Keep on the 2nd. So, unless you have some new arguments to raise, I think you are spinning your wheels.--] (]) 12:55, 26 March 2010 (UTC) |
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::::::First point, who I am is not relevant to this discussion which you seem so insistent to bring up. Second Point, The fact that Two Brothers article is "advertising" (unpaid I might add) is of no question. Just because you advertise heavy in the local papers, gets you "press" don't mean this commercial enterprise is truly notable ] and in fact most of the citations can be argued that it's not ] reliable sources and ] No original research. I ask, the rhetorical question? When will Wikimeida will invoice TBB for this very nice ad, which is now placing 4th on the Google search.] (]) 22:39, 26 March 2010 (UTC) |
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:::::::Thanks for ignoring everything in my comment about why your repeating the same arguments over and over which have already lost is an exercise in futility. But if TBB starts paying, please let me know so we can get the ] article i created on "google wikisense" as well.--] (]) 03:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC) |
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I wouldn't call Two Brothers a brewpub. They had a microbrewery business for years before they built a bar (which is attached to the brewery) a few years ago. — goethean ॐ 13:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
