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Goldfields Highway

Why are you reverting my edits??

• The spelling is terrible - lenora is Leonora
• The text in the infobox does not make sense.
• The Anne Beadell Highway has nothing to do with the Goldfields Hwy

By looking at the comments others have left here, it seems that you have a habit of doing as you please, without checking your facts. How do I know the infomation is correct?? I live in Kalgoorlie and drive this highway every day!! I will be reverting your edits back to the one's I made. Do not undo again or I will report you! Tazkal (talk) 13:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi guys - been watching all this - Rom rulz has been at this stuff before - please note inadequate edit summaries will see his/her reverts reverted by an admin - rather than a normal editor - otherwise it gets into edit warring and possible WP:3RR territory. Please note that reverting without adequate talk page comment or summary as to why a change has been made is simply not on. Please take care with this - thanks SatuSuro 13:47, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

BTW - you never ask another editor to stop editing an article - that makes it obvious you are not very sure of how wikipedia works - SatuSuro 13:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Indeed! It can be seen as ownership of articles (See WP:OWN) Bidgee (talk) 14:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Goldfields Highway. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Bidgee (talk) 15:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Issue

OK You may well have info to hand where you think something works - I am not specifically debating that at this point - in March I asked you to consider edit summaries or more explanations on talk pages - so that someone can follow what you are doing - you seem to enjoy being 'secretive' - there are indeed requirements within general wikipedia practice that specifically request adequate edit summaries - and or notes/communications as to why an edit or summary has been done.

So when it comes to editng or reverting anothers edits - and asking them to stop editing - I consider you are wrong there - regardless of whether you think you are right' - thats not the issue - in the wikipedia community we survive (well most) from being clear and specific as to the information that we are changing or reverting - silent reverts deserve admin or further action - you dont say why in a summary or talk page comment - that is where I take issue.

I can understand that Tazkal has issue with your reverts as he actually experiences the highway. If you have a difference - put the argument on the talk page - clearly from yourside - and then work from there - not by silently reverting. Try it - it might actually help clarify what you are up to and help others understand some of your edits SatuSuro 14:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

State Hwy, Major Arterial Road, what on earth is going on?

Just noticed you've been editing the listing for 'highways' in each state. How are you defining each category? How are Nepean and Bellarine Hwys 'Major Arterial Roads' while Bass Highway is a 'state highway'? (] It doesn't make any sense. If you have reasons for these categories, where are you doing your research??? --122.107.221.248 (talk) 14:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Infact it's A1 (See Image:Vanderlin Drive Darwin.jpg) and there is no need to have it listed twice! Whats the point on having roads and highways listed twice? Bidgee (talk) 15:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Please don't add misleading messages in the edit summary as you did to List of highways in Northern Territory. Spelling edits is misleading as it wasn't spelling just readding something which is already listed. Bidgee (talk) 07:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Please provide evidence, a reference article, anything to prove that Alphanumeric Route Numbering is occurring in the Northern Territory. Otherwise I assume you are making up non-referential statements, and attempting to degrade the quality of Misplaced Pages's Australian Roads. Please assume good faith! As I have said see the photo or are you assuming the photo is fake? Getting referential statements from the NT Gov and the MVA is impossible however it's not stopping me from searching. Bidgee (talk) 08:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Highway list format

Ok, I think that a table may be the best way to list these highways.

Route #	Road name
	Stuart Highway Victoria Highway
	Barkly Highway
	Stuart Highway

{| class="wikitable"
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! Route #
! Road name
|-
| ]
|''']<br>]'''
|-
| ] 
|''']'''
|-
| ]
|''']'''
|}

I personally believe it looks alot better, keeping in with WP:MOS. What do you think? --Lakeyboy (talk) 08:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I like it! Looks a lot cleaner. Bidgee (talk) 09:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I realise you (Rom rulz424) like the "collapsable / expandable" format but the use of tables results in a much cleaner, easier to read interface for the reader. Of course, the design of the table can be tweaked. This was just something I whipped up in a few minutes. --Lakeyboy (talk) 09:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Highways in New South Wales

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Route 96

Seems you are correct (Google has updated Google Maps) but some of the road maps released in 2008 still have the old number which is what I was basing it on. Bidgee (talk) 08:58, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Clear your internet brower's cache. The uploaded image has Route 1 North of DR. Bidgee (talk) 06:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

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sizing

Just be aware that there's been some discussions about the size of the route shields (and their usefulness) and the consensus seems to be leaning away from them. This was behind my rationale to make them smaller, more compact and less obstructive in the infobox. You may wish to offer input to recent discussion at WP:AWNB on this matter. Orderinchaos 09:57, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

July 2008

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No you will not - that is called edit warring and is entirely unacceptable. Please take your concerns to the talk page of the articles concerned, or engage with the existing conversation at WP:AWNB. The infobox is not for crowding in information, that's the purpose of the table in the article. Orderinchaos 05:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

The problems were raised on AWNB by numerous editors. Some editors would like to see the shields disappear entirely, others like myself occupy something of a middle ground that they have their place. I don't see any benefit in having route shields in the intersections section of the infobox, it's just clutter really, and I've always disliked it. Infoboxes that are in some cases two screens long (in at least one case, over three times the length of the article) defy the entire purpose of having an infobox, which is meant to be summary information only. Orderinchaos 05:13, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

You semed to have missed a point - when Order is mentioning WP:AWNB - it means that some other eds in fact are quite put out by over use of banners and so on on some road articles - its not just Order - there are other editors who find oversize banners unnecessary and offputting - and if that is the case then readers of wikipedia as well are not getting the information in a standardised manner - so its not just Order SatuSuro 05:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

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I don't know enough about the Melbourne road system to know which name is most commonly used or most correct, but you've made a big mess of redirects, and double redirects. The-Pope (talk) 14:08, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

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North-South Bypass Tunnel, Brisbane

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Canberra (and region) roads

I've just noticed that all of the Highway shields have been removed from the Canberra Roads infrastructure template (among others). Why was this done? There were no errors in them (as far as I could see).

And, while I'm here, I dispute your changes to Kings Highway. This highway does not commence on Canberra Avenue or anywhere else in the ACT. What is your source for your belief that it begins in the ACT? The first use of the 52 shield occurs in Queanbeyan, NSW. The Kings Highway does traverse the ACT through Kowen Forest, but nowhere else. Therefore all the changes you made showing intersections, interchanges etc along Canberra Avenue will need to be removed.

MartinL-585 (talk) 05:55, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, with regard to the removal of the Highway shields in Canberra Roads, if you look at the rest of the templates in all other state/territories, route numbers have been ommitted to ensure that the name of the road is of great importance than the route number, and I am simply conforming to it with Canberra's roads.

Here are just a few to see what I mean:

Road infrastucture in Regional New South Wales
Road infrastucture in Victoria

This goes the same for the rest of the country, regarding these templates, and so it only made sense that the Canberra ones were removed also.

Secondly, with regard to the Kings Highway in Canberra, I'm led to believe according to the OzRoads website that the route does exist to the intersection of the Monaro Highway in Fyshwick, and so therefore I'm inclined to believe that the one highway is intended to meet another, unless it is the absolute point of the end of the road. As for the route 52 marker, according not only to WhereIs or even Google maps, I believe that that too goes up to route 23, where that and the alternate route 23 of the Monaro Highway, which bypasses Canberra is where route 52 terminates.

You must realise, that there are plenty of highways, particularly in regional New South Wales and Queensland that seriously lack in on-ground-signage (and most likely having not been replaced in decades due to its remoteness), marking the route marker. Some examples include Silver City Highway, Bruxner Highway and Carnarvon Highway. --Rom rulz424 (talk) 06:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

(1) At what point was this style decision made and by whom? I don't believe that having highway numbers in any way detracts from the road names, especially in Canberra where there are only National Highway numbers and not state routes.

(2) I have to disagree. "I'm led to believe" is not proof. While I do acknowledge that the 52 symbol is shown on Google Maps and OzRoads, it is not present anywhere on Canberra Avenue (within ACT) nor does it exist on UBD maps. If you look at Google Street view of the Canberra Ave/Monaro Highway intersection, the Highway shields for 23 and ALT23 (for the Monaro Highway) exist; 52 does not. Nor does it exist at Hindmarsh Dr/Canberra Ave. The first known appearance is at the intersection of Canberra Ave/Lanyon Dr in Queanbeyan, NSW. The first reference to "Kings Highway" on any maps also appears at the NSW/ACT border. I have performed numerous web searches and have not been able to find any definitive official reference to exactly where Kings Highway starts. But all of my evidence supports my case that it does not begin until Queanbeyan. Therefore the article either needs to specifically mention this and include the link to route 23 for information purposes only or else remove anything west of the NSW border.

MartinL-585 (talk) 02:18, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

May 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Olympic Highway. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Bidgee (talk) 05:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)