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I think you may be confused as to the definition of a wikivandal: this may help: "''Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Apparent bad-faith edits that do not make their bad-faith nature inarguably explicit are not considered vandalism at Misplaced Pages.''" ] If you are convinced that I am, in fact, a vandal, you are obliged to report me to the proper entities. I think you would get little traction on this, however; threats to have users making legitimate edits (even if NPOV or bad faith -- which mine aren't) "banned" are frowned on here. As to making a "positive contribution," I quote you from the talk page (snideness excised for clarity): "''IronDuke has chosen... to... re-write ... This is fine, and may be an improvement (ultimately).''" ] 17:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC) I think you may be confused as to the definition of a wikivandal: this may help: "''Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Apparent bad-faith edits that do not make their bad-faith nature inarguably explicit are not considered vandalism at Misplaced Pages.''" ] If you are convinced that I am, in fact, a vandal, you are obliged to report me to the proper entities. I think you would get little traction on this, however; threats to have users making legitimate edits (even if NPOV or bad faith -- which mine aren't) "banned" are frowned on here. As to making a "positive contribution," I quote you from the talk page (snideness excised for clarity): "''IronDuke has chosen... to... re-write ... This is fine, and may be an improvement (ultimately).''" ] 17:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

You may wish to study the sections ] and ] in the Blocking Policy -- ] 18:10, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

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E-mail

Hi ID, you can use the link on my user page, or in the toolbox on the left of it, where it says "e-mail this user." Cheers, SlimVirgin 05:45, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Anti-Arab

Why did you just remove the well-sourced anti-Arab incidents section? Please stop this aggressive POV editing. Yuber 16:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

On Cockles

IronDuke, your intervention is a timely one! For some reason I was under the impression that "getting one's cockles up" was synonymous with "getting one's dander up", i.e. getting pissy and frustrated and angry. However, whereas "getting one's dander up" makes a bit of sense, I couldn't figure out how getting one's cockles up would make sense as a euphemism for getting angry. I was considering investigating when your note came. Well, this is not my first such error. I long used the expression "a bat's chance in hell", incorrectly conflating "a snowball's chance in hell" with "like a bat out of hell". To this day I still sometimes say the incorrect version. So this is an ongoing problem for me. However, I don't think I ever flaunted my ignorance so egregiously as on the Islamofascism AfD page where I believe I incorrectly used "cockles" a good five times in a single sentence. Well, live and learn. Thanks for educating me and sparing me further such episodes. As for my RfA, thanks for your kind words, even though I got pwned I enjoyed being the center of attention, primarily negative attention though it was. Mr. Kenneth Patrick Bogan was either a fugitive sex offendor from Compton, California who decided to reveal his identity on Misplaced Pages, or, more likely, someone pulling a bizarre and very convoluted prank. I had great fun watching it unfold, though. Regards! Babajobu 04:25, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Islamofascism

Hi, IronDuke. My willingness to change my vote is not due to the desire to get Brandon to focus his attention elsewhere. "Islamofascism" is notable, and I believe now, as I believed before, that it is an entirely appropriate topic for Misplaced Pages. In the AfDs on Islamofascism people generally argued for or against its deletion. People who argued for a redirect invariably said something along the lines of "offensive! redirect!", or "delete this trash and redirect". I never had any truck with these argument/opinions. The term is notable, end of story. It is/was not acceptable, in my mind, to replace discussion of the term with a more general, PC discussion at neofascism and religion. However, this time something different has happened. Rather than simply trying to "disappear" the topic of Islamofascism, the redirecters have actually incorporated the entire discussion of Islamofascism into the neofascism and religion article as a subheading of the Islam section. That resolution works well enough for me. Many notable topics in Misplaced Pages are covered as sub-headings in more general articles. Before it seemed that the editors working on neofascism and religion would have nothing to do with the topic of the term Islamofascism, so a standalone article was necessary. Now Islamofascism is discussed in the same place as the more general discussion of fascist elements in Islamic movements, which I think works well. Hope this clarifies a bit! I don't want to be Brutus! ;-)

"Someone who wants to know what the word means should only have to type it into the serach box and hit enter for the word and its defintion to come up instantly. They should not have to root around other articles for it." Yes, this is true. This is really a problem with the mediawiki software, in that while one can create a link to a subheading of an article, redirects cannot go to subheadings. What needs to happen is that someone types in Islamofascism, and they are redirected to the Islamofascism subheading of neofascism and religion. The lack of this functionality is a problem all over Misplaced Pages, with numerous notable topics being included within other articles, but forcing readers to go on an easter egg hunt when they are directed to the main article. Hopefully the next upgrade of the software will put an end to this. But I do think this (hopefully temporary) disadvantage is outweighed by the advantage of having the full discussion of Islamofascism offered along with the general discussion of fascism in Islamist movements. As to why other editors have so zealously opposed having a standalone article for the term? Well, I think it's clear that the existence of the standalone article bothers them. I wasn't willing to bend to accommodate their pieties, but I'm not going to let those pieties annoy me into opposing what I think is a pretty reasonable handling of the topic, either. Have to log off for now, will be back on later. Cheers, Babajobu 03:43, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


Reed College page

IronDuke, if you don't quit the meta-discussion harrassment and either make a positive contribution to the content of the page or go away, I will seek to have you banned as a vandal. Your attacks on me haven't really gone anywhere, so I suggest you consider one of these two routes. -- Gnetwerker 07:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I think you may be confused as to the definition of a wikivandal: this may help: "Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Apparent bad-faith edits that do not make their bad-faith nature inarguably explicit are not considered vandalism at Misplaced Pages." ] If you are convinced that I am, in fact, a vandal, you are obliged to report me to the proper entities. I think you would get little traction on this, however; threats to have users making legitimate edits (even if NPOV or bad faith -- which mine aren't) "banned" are frowned on here. As to making a "positive contribution," I quote you from the talk page (snideness excised for clarity): "IronDuke has chosen... to... re-write ... This is fine, and may be an improvement (ultimately)." IronDuke 17:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

You may wish to study the sections Disruption and Users who exhaust the Community's Patience in the Blocking Policy -- Gnetwerker 18:10, 23 January 2006 (UTC)