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| :::Why should he/she have to talk about previous accounts? This isn't a social club or popularity contest, is it? It's supposed to be a repository of information. Or was once. ] (]) 22:54, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | :::Why should he/she have to talk about previous accounts? This isn't a social club or popularity contest, is it? It's supposed to be a repository of information. Or was once. ] (]) 22:54, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
| :::If you have a legitimate accusation to make (with y'know, facts and evidence to back it up) then please go through the official channels so that it can be dealt with. If your comment is as it appears, please find better ways to cope with opinions that do not match your own. Have a read through ]. ] (]) 23:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | :::If you have a legitimate accusation to make (with y'know, facts and evidence to back it up) then please go through the official channels so that it can be dealt with. If your comment is as it appears, please find better ways to cope with opinions that do not match your own. Have a read through ]. ] (]) 23:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
| ::::Per ], an account created for the purpose of nominating an article for deletion that uses jargon like AfD is not a new user and is probably a ]. Using an alternative account to nominate articles for deletion is not a legitimate use. As for ], try reading ]. ]<span style="background-color:white; color:grey;">&</span>] 20:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Default to keep''' A deletion discussion ending or merge and/or redirect is one thing, but since the nominator identifies a merge/redirect location in their nomination it renders a discussion about whether or not to delete the thing completely redundant. ]] 19:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | *'''Default to keep''' A deletion discussion ending or merge and/or redirect is one thing, but since the nominator identifies a merge/redirect location in their nomination it renders a discussion about whether or not to delete the thing completely redundant. ]] 19:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Speedy Keep''' No attempt has been made to observe the ]. ] (]) 19:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | *'''Speedy Keep''' No attempt has been made to observe the ]. ] (]) 19:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
| :Which ones, specifically? I would expect very clear and concrete violations of those rules to qualify your claim--not vague interpretations--so I must be particularly dense in not seeing any. ] (]) 23:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | :Which ones, specifically? I would expect very clear and concrete violations of those rules to qualify your claim--not vague interpretations--so I must be particularly dense in not seeing any. ] (]) 23:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
| * '''Delete''' or '''redirect''' to wherever the stupid Internet catchphrases are usually kept. ] (]) 22:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | * '''Delete''' or '''redirect''' to wherever the stupid Internet catchphrases are usually kept. ] (]) 22:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
| **It's a notable stupid Internet catchphrase though. ]<span style="background-color:white; color:grey;">&</span>] 20:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Keep''' This is a long-lived and widespread internet meme, which also combines two other long-lived and widespread memes. It's hard to see why this should *not* be seen as notable. ] (]) 19:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' This is a long-lived and widespread internet meme, which also combines two other long-lived and widespread memes. It's hard to see why this should *not* be seen as notable. ] (]) 19:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Pirates versus Ninjas
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This should just be a summary in List of Internet phenomena. As the article stands, it's just a single line of actual information followed by a (largely self-serving) list of places that mention the phenomenon. This is only ever going to become a horrible mess; it's just not necessary or helpful. Misplaced Pages does not need to be a hub for pirate/ninja humour. Minkle Slowberries (talk) 13:10, 26 May 2010 (UTC) This template must be substituted.
- Keep. Popular meme. Well sourced article. Szzuk (talk) 21:23, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- Those aren't sources, they're just links. A reference is something attached to information to show where that information comes from. The article is essentially a portal. Minkle Slowberries (talk) 07:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- I read two of the points in the article, followed the reference links to the relevant page and the information was there. I'm not sure what you are talking about? Perhaps you think that the wp article has to have exactly the same words as that on the cited page? Unless they are direct quotes they don't, they have to demonstrate the point is factually correct, not taken out of context or otherwise skewed. I don't necessarily disagree that the article looks a bit like a portal, but this is an internet meme, so articles like this will always look like a portal, it lives on the internet and nowhere else much. To me the article looks fine and the cites look fine, so I don't really have much else to say on the matter now. Szzuk (talk) 11:38, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- There are more links to other articles and websites than there are words in the informative part of the article. They're not references, they're indiscriminate trivia. Minkle Slowberries (talk) 17:40, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- I read two of the points in the article, followed the reference links to the relevant page and the information was there. I'm not sure what you are talking about? Perhaps you think that the wp article has to have exactly the same words as that on the cited page? Unless they are direct quotes they don't, they have to demonstrate the point is factually correct, not taken out of context or otherwise skewed. I don't necessarily disagree that the article looks a bit like a portal, but this is an internet meme, so articles like this will always look like a portal, it lives on the internet and nowhere else much. To me the article looks fine and the cites look fine, so I don't really have much else to say on the matter now. Szzuk (talk) 11:38, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Keep. It certainly needs cleanup, but I think this meme is a notable one. NPR:; Emory's student paper:; Fredericksburg paper:; Rocky Mountain News:; Wired's GeekDad blog:; the offical Google blog:; Know Your Meme:; lots of sources cover the meme in the context of the Pirates vs Ninjas Dodgeball computer game and Facebook application and other games.; a comic book:; a musical: Fences&Windows 18:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- This the place for notable memes. Note that your suggestion to keep and improve is same as the result of the first AfD request. It didn't work then, and I don't see why now is any different. Minkle Slowberries (talk) 18:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- As you know so much about Misplaced Pages, you'll be kind enough to let us know the accounts you've edited under before? Actually, keeping and improving is not the same as merging to a list, and if you want to improve it using the sources I've found, please do go ahead, and then you can withdraw this nomination. Fences&Windows 20:45, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Why should he/she have to talk about previous accounts? This isn't a social club or popularity contest, is it? It's supposed to be a repository of information. Or was once. 81.152.72.174 (talk) 22:54, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- If you have a legitimate accusation to make (with y'know, facts and evidence to back it up) then please go through the official channels so that it can be dealt with. If your comment is as it appears, please find better ways to cope with opinions that do not match your own. Have a read through Misplaced Pages:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information. Minkle Slowberries (talk) 23:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Per the duck test, an account created for the purpose of nominating an article for deletion that uses jargon like AfD is not a new user and is probably a sockpuppet. Using an alternative account to nominate articles for deletion is not a legitimate use. As for WP:NOT, try reading WP:GNG. Fences&Windows 20:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
- As you know so much about Misplaced Pages, you'll be kind enough to let us know the accounts you've edited under before? Actually, keeping and improving is not the same as merging to a list, and if you want to improve it using the sources I've found, please do go ahead, and then you can withdraw this nomination. Fences&Windows 20:45, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Default to keep A deletion discussion ending or merge and/or redirect is one thing, but since the nominator identifies a merge/redirect location in their nomination it renders a discussion about whether or not to delete the thing completely redundant. Someoneanother 19:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep No attempt has been made to observe the deletion prerequisites. Colonel Warden (talk) 19:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Which ones, specifically? I would expect very clear and concrete violations of those rules to qualify your claim--not vague interpretations--so I must be particularly dense in not seeing any. Minkle Slowberries (talk) 23:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect to wherever the stupid Internet catchphrases are usually kept. 81.152.72.174 (talk) 22:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- It's a notable stupid Internet catchphrase though. Fences&Windows 20:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
- Keep This is a long-lived and widespread internet meme, which also combines two other long-lived and widespread memes. It's hard to see why this should *not* be seen as notable. Ringbark (talk) 19:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC)