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Hello, PhanuelB, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Sockpuppetry case

Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Zlykinskyja for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. FormerIP (talk) 23:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi PhanuelB,
I've sent you an email concerning this case.
Amalthea 09:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Phanuel. Since checkuser has shown that you are not a sock of Zlykinskyja‎, I apologise for any worry or inconvenience caused. It looks like you have not been about anyway, so you've probably missed to whole thing. As I said in the SPI report, you have not edit-warred or broken any rules, so you come out of this without a mark against your name. Hope you will continue to contribute at Murder of Meredith Kercher. Thanks. --FormerIP (talk) 10:11, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk page

I would consider this very carefully, and consider striking your remarks. Black Kite (t) (c) 21:36, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Misplaced Pages

Hi. I am the User:Wikid77 you have been suspected of being. If they had evidence of WP:sockpuppetry, then you would have been blocked from editing, maybe for a month. Perhaps you already know these WP policies. I am glad you were not blocked, because they would have blocked me too! (as being considered the same person). You must be careful not to word messages that sound like someone else, because if they conclude you are, then both people will get blocked. I guess, in reality, if they connect you to a formerly blocked user, then both of you get, maybe, a 3-month block. I am thankful for the danger, because it makes me understand how it feels to spend years accused of something you didn't do, and live in fear of what they will accuse you of next. Misplaced Pages did not invent "persecution" and thus, no one alone is to blame for the problem. The Bible advises, "Remember those in prison". And so we do.

I have, just today, read your posts from weeks (months) ago, and I am impressed with your knowledge of such important matters. We have many other highly intelligent writers, including medical professionals, and there is a proposed Wikimedia 5-year plan to greatly improve the long-term quality, including the various other-language Wikipedias. Please feel free to edit other articles about those subjects, and help explain the issues for our millions of nice readers.

Also, note that most WP policies are, currently, very well-written to encourage kind and helpful editing, even if it seems mostly hateful around here. The problem is those good policies are not enforced, so it seems like Misplaced Pages is a bad environment, but it is just a problem of being unable to enforce the clear rules already written. Einstein warned, "Power attracts people of low morality, and I have found it an invariant rule that tyrants of genius will be succeeded by scoundrels" (or similar wording, probably in German). I think Jimbo Wales (and the rest) have tried to impart compassion, but unfortunately, sufficient controls are not yet in place to thwart bad behavior. Anyway, most articles on WP are not censored, and if you keep working on numerous other articles, then any wikihounding will be reduced, as they lose interest in snooping about your activities. They might read every word of this talk-page, but lose interest, in stalking, if you edit a lot of various articles.

Well, as far as sockpuppets, I can testify that you are not me! So, you have one more person to come to your defense (or defence). It is like expecting a new witness, during an appeal, to testify for you, and then you are acquitted. At that point, months later, you are still free to write the rest of the story. Try to remember all the kind readers here, and avoid hostile people who probably tortured animals when they were younger, and know what to expect from them. Anyway, again, welcome back. -Wikid77 (talk) 12:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on Talk:Murder of Meredith Kercher. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. Thank you. Please familiarize yourself with WP:AGF and WP:SOAP before contributing further. Casting aspersions such as these are unacceptable, and will lead to a removal of your editing privileges. MLauba 10:41, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

To put this in plainer language, the next time you ascribe motives to other editors like you just did again at the end of this contribution, you will be blocked. Argue on content, not on imaginary motives of other contributors, or bring your contributions elsewhere. MLauba 13:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

As you appear unable to edit without soapboxing and treating Misplaced Pages like a battleground, you have been blocked for disruptive editing for a period of 24 hours. Again, accusing a group of editors of holding an agenda is an unacceptable disruption and violation of collegial editing norms. The onus is on you to assume good faith of your fellow editors - throwing wild accusations around in furtherance of your points in an attempt to bully and intimidate others will not be tolerated. Once you return, you are encouraged to take the "comment on content, not contributors" advice to heart. MLauba 13:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Friendly manner

Hi, Wikid77 here again. I am impressed by your continued friendly manner. Some people try to bait others into outbursts, as if trolling for trouble, so I applaud your amazing composure. I guess arbitration is the last hope when other people violate so many policies which, for years, have encouraged accurate and balanced articles, including to note major controversies in the first section of articles about controversial topics. Almost any person in the news for years gets a separate bio article. I cannot emphasize enough that many WP policies are excellent and fair, if only dozens (hundreds?) of people would not violate them every microsecond. For example, the policy WP:LEAD clearly states to explain controversies in the intro of an article (otherwise, readers would have no idea that notable people are outraged by the specific events). This "aint Weaselpedia" where all people mealy-mouth events to censor their coverage or pretend there are no shocking controversies: no, that's called "policy violations" which censor article contents. Most articles are collections of opinions expressed in newsreports or books (etc.), where even emotional opinions are directly sourced or quoted, but emotional opinions are a major part of Misplaced Pages. The key idea is that the opinions written in the article text must match the opinions in the sources, in relative proportion to the coverage (science articles state scientific opinions, mostly). An opinion by a U.S. Senator has almost the rank of President because the 100 senators decide U.S. foreign policy and remain in office for decades, while a president has a term limit of 8 years. A quote by a U.S. Senator could be summarized in an article's WP:LEAD intro section because of that impact. Anyway, as a reminder of WP's excellent (oft-violated) policies, I quote from WP:LEAD about addressing notable controversies in the first sentence of an article (rather than treat it as a coroner's report of details):

"The lead section (also known as the introduction or the lead) of a Misplaced Pages article is the section before the table of contents and first heading. The lead serves both as an introduction to the article and as a summary of the important aspects of the subject of the article."

"The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article. It should define the topic, establish context, explain why the subject is interesting or notable, and summarize the most important points—including any notable controversies. The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, according to reliable, published sources, and the notability of the article's subject should usually be established in the first sentence." (excerpt from WP:LEAD)

Many other WP policies are just as sensible, such as WP:NOTCENSORED. As you probably know, Misplaced Pages has broad coverage: for the JFK assassination alone, there are 20? articles, even including: "John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories" (with many opinions). There is no absolute rule: "1_event=1_article" (not true). Instead, in reality, a major controversy gets several articles (17? about the Manson family). Simply consider, by asking the question, "What would many open-minded people write?" then that gives a good idea of what the articles should contain. There have been 16 articles about the fictional book and film The Da Vinci Code. A real-life investigator should get a separate article, including his major investigations. Again, your composure is remarkable, but please note that numerous intelligent people are here to help. It is rare to find 9 (or 15?) people who all want to violate numerous policies to censor the same article. I regret that your valuable time has been wasted by their antics. -Wikid77 (talk) 01:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Why thanks for the encouragement. I have great respect for Misplaced Pages but I'm not sure they've got the right formula for the really contentious issues like the trial of AK. I'm in kind of a holding pattern now as the guilters are really in charge over there. I had watched the article for about a year and had actually registered for an arbitration that was supposed to happen. I didn't quite understand when the arbitration was called off. A month or so ago I dropped by and my jaw dropped when I saw what had happened. Within hours of my arrival this time attempts were made to get me banned based on false statments. Periodically other people with pro-innocence POVs are showing up and appear to be shocked also.PhanuelB (talk) 21:12, 31 July 2010 (UTC)