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# ] 07:05, 2 February 2006 (UTC) See ]. This user also has a ]. # ] 07:05, 2 February 2006 (UTC) See ]. This user also has a ].
#'''Oppose'''. I think it is commendable that you've improved your editing enough that the above editors approve of. But I've seen a long enough history of incivility and edit warring that I don't have faith in your ability not to abuse admin tools. So keep up the good work, but I have to oppose. - ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 13:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC) #'''Oppose'''. I think it is commendable that you've improved your editing enough that the above editors approve of. But I've seen a long enough history of incivility and edit warring that I don't have faith in your ability not to abuse admin tools. So keep up the good work, but I have to oppose. I do also find the evidence of sockpuppetry compelling. - ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 13:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


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:You're referring to the allegation that ] = ]. While I've never made any secret of the fact that I've met Centauri on numerous occasions to assist his researches on the subject of Australian micronations, the notion that we were the same person was a red herring promoted largely by ], who had circumvented several Arbcom bans and was involved in a number of editing disputes with me at the time. Since Wik's disappearance this "issue" has also disappeared. --] 23:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC) :You're referring to the allegation that ] = ]. While I've never made any secret of the fact that I've met Centauri on numerous occasions to assist his researches on the subject of Australian micronations, the notion that we were the same person was a red herring promoted largely by ], who had circumvented several Arbcom bans and was involved in a number of editing disputes with me at the time. Since Wik's disappearance this "issue" has also disappeared. --] 23:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::Wik is not the only one who thinks Centauri is your sockpuppet. See ] and . is also strong evidence. ] 08:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC) ::Wik is not the only one who thinks Centauri is your sockpuppet. See ] and . is also strong evidence. ] 08:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, the evidence was pretty compelling. I don't know that I can dig it up but just too many circumstantial things line up. Also quite difficult to get Gene to concede many points on his strong POV on micronations. To the point it was quite concerning. - ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 05:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC) ::Actually, the evidence was pretty compelling. I don't know that I can dig it up but just too many circumstantial things line up. Also quite difficult to get Gene to concede many points on his strong POV on micronations. To the point it was quite concerning. I don't think there's many user's that have edited ] or related articles that doubt Gene Poole and Centauri are the same editors. Check the evidence for yourself. The story of "oh, I uh, knew him, and he uh, edited from my computer while I was logged in" only came out after the evidence was presented and is hard to swallow. - ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 05:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:::My position on micronations has always been that if they are verifiable in documentary sources, then it's proper that Misplaced Pages have articles about them. I'm opposed to the inclusion of articles about unverifiable micronations for this reason. These views seem to constitute the current Misplaced Pages consensus on this subject, and are shared by many editors apart from myself--] 05:29, 2 February 2006 (UTC) :::My position on micronations has always been that if they are verifiable in documentary sources, then it's proper that Misplaced Pages have articles about them. I'm opposed to the inclusion of articles about unverifiable micronations for this reason. These views seem to constitute the current Misplaced Pages consensus on this subject, and are shared by many editors apart from myself--] 05:29, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I wasn't referring to POV on inclusion, but an inability to separate your POV from your edits in articles. - ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 15:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
*I have suspected that Gene Poole has been using a sockpuppet ] 07:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC) *I have suspected that Gene Poole has been using a sockpuppet ] 07:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
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Gene Poole

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Gene Poole (talk · contribs) – It is my pleasure and my honor to nominate one of the hardest working individuals on Misplaced Pages for a long-overdue adminship. He is a tireless vandal fighter, an expert and passionate micronationalist, has contributed to a number of featured articles and has valiantly fought off the frequent returns of Wik. His is one of the keenest intellects I have ever encountered on the Internet and to top it off, he's a fellow broadcaster! Please give this gentleman the tools he needs to continue his fight to improve Misplaced Pages. This site will be improved several fold with his successful nomination. - Lucky 6.9 06:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:

I am delighted and honoured to accept Lucky 6.9's nomination. --Gene_poole 23:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Support

  1. Support as nominee. - Lucky 6.9 06:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
    Gene poole is the nominee, not you, Lucky! :P NSLE (T+C) 04:36, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  2. I trust Lucky's judgment. NSLE (T+C) 04:36, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  3. Support - Good balance of contribs, and I too respect the nominator. (ESkog) 04:53, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  4. Support - Despite some disagreements on micronation article policy, I believe Gene's a good admin candidate, keeps Misplaced Pages's best interests in mind, and is someone I trust to work to protect and improve WP. Georgewilliamherbert 05:44, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  5. Support. It's about time. Sarge Baldy 06:27, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  6. Support, dedicated, knowledgable and passionate, but not unreasonable.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 07:26, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  7. Support as non-nominee.  :) Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:35, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  8. A very familiar name that I trust. --Merovingian {T C @} 08:36, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  9. Support --Adrian Buehlmann 10:37, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  10. Support --Terence Ong (恭喜发财) 10:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  11. Support. Mushroom (Talk) 11:37, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Samboy 07:05, 2 February 2006 (UTC) See Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Gene_Poole_vs._Samboy. This user also has a suspected sockpuppet.
  2. Oppose. I think it is commendable that you've improved your editing enough that the above editors approve of. But I've seen a long enough history of incivility and edit warring that I don't have faith in your ability not to abuse admin tools. So keep up the good work, but I have to oppose. I do also find the evidence of sockpuppetry compelling. - Taxman 13:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Neutral

  1. Geogre 12:24, 2 February 2006 (UTC) The huge (and I mean huge) VfD explosion over micronations of 18 months go was horrible, and Gene was sort of a featured player. I haven't seen that bush war repeat since then, and so I haven't seen Gene's edits since then. I cannot support or oppose (i.e. I really, really didn't like "some micronations are good" and the vicious fights that followed).

Comments

  • Edit summary usage: 97% for major edits and 41% for minor edits. Based on the last 150 major and 150 minor edits outside the Misplaced Pages, User, Image, and all Talk namespaces. Mathbot 06:15, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
  • See Gene Poole's edit count and contribution tree with Interiot's tool.
  • There was a controversy a while ago suggesting that Gene Poole was using a sockpuppet to make double "votes" on AFD. I do not know if this allegation was true or not, but I would like to know how this was addressed and if it was cleared up. Radiant_>|< 16:10, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
You're referring to the allegation that Gene Poole = Centauri. While I've never made any secret of the fact that I've met Centauri on numerous occasions to assist his researches on the subject of Australian micronations, the notion that we were the same person was a red herring promoted largely by Wik, who had circumvented several Arbcom bans and was involved in a number of editing disputes with me at the time. Since Wik's disappearance this "issue" has also disappeared. --Gene_poole 23:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Wik is not the only one who thinks Centauri is your sockpuppet. See this and this. This edit is also strong evidence. Samboy 08:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the evidence was pretty compelling. I don't know that I can dig it up but just too many circumstantial things line up. Also quite difficult to get Gene to concede many points on his strong POV on micronations. To the point it was quite concerning. I don't think there's many user's that have edited Sealand or related articles that doubt Gene Poole and Centauri are the same editors. Check the evidence for yourself. The story of "oh, I uh, knew him, and he uh, edited from my computer while I was logged in" only came out after the evidence was presented and is hard to swallow. - Taxman 05:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
My position on micronations has always been that if they are verifiable in documentary sources, then it's proper that Misplaced Pages have articles about them. I'm opposed to the inclusion of articles about unverifiable micronations for this reason. These views seem to constitute the current Misplaced Pages consensus on this subject, and are shared by many editors apart from myself--Gene_poole 05:29, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't referring to POV on inclusion, but an inability to separate your POV from your edits in articles. - Taxman 15:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages in this capacity. Please take the time to answer a few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:

1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? Please check out Category:Misplaced Pages backlog, and read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.
A. Apart from general cleanup work I anticipate focusing on articles outside my specific fields of interest that need to be wikified, merged, split or expanded, or for which references are required. --Gene_poole 23:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
2. Of your articles or contributions to Misplaced Pages, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
A. I'm particularly proud of my work in creating Egyptian pyramids, which has since evolved, thanks to the work of many editors, into an article I'm confident will eventually become a featured article. The way this article has developed is a wonderful example of all that is best in Misplaced Pages. I'm also proud of Freak wave for similar reasons. Finally, I'm proud to have managed to help turn the majority of articles in the micronations category into decent, factual, NPOV articles, one of which, Sealand has become a featured article. --Gene_poole 23:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A. I've been involved in several disputes, but they have on the whole been educative experiences, and my manner of resolving them is, I feel, indicative of my maturity:
  • In the case of Wik (aka Gzornenplatz, aka Nopuzzlestranger) I quickly determined that I was dealing with a troll with no desire to reform, and decided the best policy was to prevent him disrupting Misplaced Pages to the best of my ability. Currently this means notifying admins whenever I become aware of him creating new sockpuppets to try to circumvent his 3 permanent bans.
  • In the case of Samboy I now avoid him wherever possible, and allow other editors to show him that his opinions on the topics on which we disagree do not constitute consensus.
  • In the case of Lucky 6.9 - who has nominated me for admin - I acknowledged that I was wrong and unreservedly apologised. We've since become Wiki-friends and have co-operated on a number of matters. --Gene_poole 23:08, 1 February 2006 (UTC)