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Thanks for noticing. It appears that some votes were changed over a week ago. --Maxamegalon2000 13:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

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Hello, ApLundell! Welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions to this 💕. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Dreamy 21:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

(I knocked this out of its big distracting template.APL (talk))

LOTD proposal

You either voted on the original list of the day proposal or the revised version. A more modest experimental proposal is now at issue at WP:LOTDP. Feel free to voice your opinion.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Userpage

You need a better userpage :)Eskater11 03:53, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree, preferably one with a lengthy and incomprehensible APL program on it. :-) --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 13:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

re: And please stop trying to start soap-box topics about Nintendo.

Where am I supposed to voice my views about this? Also, I have responded to your discussion at the RD talk page. Interactive Fiction Expert/Talk to me 07:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

		The Reference Desk Barnstar
		Thank you for answering my satellite question on the Reference Desk! --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 16:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I endorse this barnstar, after noticing how you, by being calm and to the point, resolved an ugly situation at WP:RD/S#creatively, how heavy might I make pure heat (historical caloric) in liquid form?. — Sebastian 21:07, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Main Page redesign

The Main Page Redesign proposal is currently conducting a straw poll to select five new designs, before an RFC in which one will be proposed to replace the Main Page. The poll closes on October 31st. Your input would be hugely appreciated! Many thanks, Pretzels 15:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:Water Spheres

Thanks!! Reywas92 00:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Quick note

Hi. If you're going to delete my post, the least you can do is provide an edit summary explaining it. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 13:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh okay - cool then. Thanks for fixing it! Zain Ebrahim (talk) 13:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I tweaked your post

. . . here to improve readability. Feel free to revert if you don't like that stuff. The bullets were a few lines below the above paragraph in my browser but it looks good now. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 15:03, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Sunglasses

How did you search for them? There's no search function on the website, and the site:rayban.com function in google search doesn't work.68.148.130.72 (talk) 04:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Conker

The content was not included simply because it was a trivial subject. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 04:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

As much assertion? The only thing close to notability is the censorship, which is only notable if it's covered in reliable, secondary sources. Most articles have reception and development at minimum. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 02:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

False information about Pandora

Hi.

I have seen in the History that you think I am adding false information about Pandora in the Gizmondo 2 article.

In fact, this is not false information. I have seen on many websites: "The Pandora will be released in December 2009".

However, if you don't believe me, research it then.

--79.69.97.234 (talk) 18:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Your "facts" contradict statements by the actual, official developers. It is not my job to go research your crazy facts. It is your responsibility to provide credible citations and references for your facts.

I'm not sure where you'd find a secondary source more credible than the people actually making the device, who have never said December 2009.

(Incidentally, Are you sure you're not seeing sites that say December 2008? That was the original planned release date.) APL (talk) 18:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Venus Flytrap

Thanks for your advice on the reference desk. Both me and my hungry plant thank you! cheers, 10draftsdeep (talk) 13:08, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I saw your post. I don't doubt it's validity (after checking google scholar) and I do seem to have a defective copy. Now I'm wondering what else is wrong with my copy...Drew Smith What I've done 13:28, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

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		Thank you for answering my Earth as Time Keeper question on the Science Reference Desk! --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 03:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Damnation

You're right, i was not able to found some informations in english that damnation is a steampunk video game, only on official developers site, in german version is said that damnation is settled in a post industrial steampunk world(http://www.codemasters.de/games/index.php?gameid=2672&format= steampunk is in german also steampunk), i have played this game,i mentioned already they have steam-powered vehicles, weapons and other steam-powered machines, circa 20 - 30 years after American Civil War, not only my person is thinking that damnation belongs to steampunk Al-B

IP

Ok.--Gilisa (talk) 19:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Future

Lol thanks for pointing out that strange response about African women's bodies was from the 'retrocausal information transfer'. It was a good laugh but I didn't remember the person and doubt I would have bothered to look at his contribs myself Nil Einne (talk) 16:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey

I noticed you responded to a :) of mine with one of your own -- so I'd like to ask you a question. Was it in poor judgment to do what I did? Perhaps you don't know what I did, but you can check it out on the general reference desk talk page. I thought I was being funny, but two editors felt that I was canvassing for support. While I'm not very new to Misplaced Pages, I am pretty new to the reference desks, so maybe I was way out of line and just don't realize it -- sort of incompetent about being incompetent. What do you say? DRosenbach 02:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

So would that mean I was out of line and didn't know it or wasn't out of line and did know it? DRosenbach 03:00, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I didn't even hit "save on my reply yet! I got distracted by the other discussion on your talk page. APL (talk) 03:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

How can there be a place for only editors -- cannot every reader visit every page? Or must you be signed in, and every signed in account is assumed to be an editor and not just a reader? DRosenbach 03:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm responding as though you speak for Steve, which I presume you do not, but put a lot of effort into the Ref Desks and then get a bit upset when people don't take it seriously not only presumes that I do not take it seriously but also smacks of "owning" the RD. I put a lot of effort into the Crown_(dentistry) article a way back and a bunch of others came along and basically undid all my hard work. I might have been upset, but didn't lash out. DRosenbach 03:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

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		In appreciation of our personal Détente, both general and specific. DRosenbach 21:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Mysterious vanishing post problem..

I removed your apology on user User talk:70.90.174.101 since you have posted to wrong page. It was my post you removed.

I believe this bug occurs when there is very heavy traffic on a topic, such as was found in the 'religious help desk' talk discussion.

It happens to other people too, it's (probably) not something you are doing. (Though you did mix up 70.... and 83...)

83.100.250.79 (talk) 12:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Re

WT:RD and usernames

Hi APL, here's the story on redacted names at the latest RefTalk thread. It's very simple. A new editor (probably an LC sock) popped up to ask if BaseballBugs was LC. I answered that it was very unlikely, since Bugs stirs up all his own (good-faith) trouble and doesn't take any pains to hide what he does. Bugs is relatively new to the RefDesks and is not familiar with the long-running LC saga, so he asked who it was. I answered with a link to one of the SPI/CU cases, which would be all Bugs needed to understand. But I used LC's full username, then decided all on my own that I didn't want to use the name, so I went back and took it out. Meanwhile Bugs had figured out the user identity for himself, so I took that out too and left a link pointing to my edit so it would be really clear what I had done. Bugs saw it and got the point immediately, WP:DENY/WP:RBI is really quite standard practice and is done routinely. Bugs and I (among others) continued discussion of the particular disruptive user (and other disruptive users who might be targeting Bugs) in other fora.

TOAT meanwhile left a note letting us know what we already knew or suspected. Since I'd already begun removing the username, I just continued with TOAT's post and left a note and link to the diff where I'd made the change. TOAT is actually quite experienced here and knows who I am. If they wished to revert my change, obviously it's within their remit to do so. Or they could follow my logic and go along with it.

Everything is fine up to this point, no-one has "wasted" any time except just me myself, and I happen to be a volunteer. Then it all went pear-shaped with a bunch of complaints about how it's hard to follow what is plainly linked right there on the page (though admittedly one would have to actually read the thread and click the links), and how everyone's time is being wasted or mis-spent. Well, no-one's time got wasted except the time spent commenting on what I'd freely and openly done. Yes, changing other people's posts should be rare and never done by stealth, but for instance we redact email addresses all the time. I made my decision and if TOAT has a problem with it, I'm sure they'll let me know. In the alternate, you could have asked me on my talk page. It's unfortunate that the thread got deflected into yet another distracting direction. If you have further concerns, please reply here, I'll keep watching this page. Franamax (talk) 23:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Well it seems confusing with no real purpose at all. It's not as though being coy about the name will stop whatsisname from knowing who we're talking about, but it will confuse innocent bistanders.

If a troll wants attention, he won't care how you spell his name when you give it to him. That's the best case, anyway. Personally, I would take perverse satisfaction from the fact that you were afraid to speak my name.

I mean, either no one knows what you're talking about, and communication has failed, or they do know what you're talking about and you've given the guy the same attention that he would have got if you had just used the name in the first place!

Attributing these abbreviations to WP:DENY or WP:RBI feels a bit disingenuous because neither really comes close. In fact, I would argue that this sort of special treatment is very much against WP:RBI. It just makes vandals special. APL (talk) 00:38, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Incidentally, as my username is already a set of initials, if you ever feel the need to ignore me or not recognize me in public, you may do so by addressing me by my name: "Andy". APL (talk) 00:42, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, I look at it a little differently I guess. It's not like I was running around frantically trying to scrub hieroglyphs off the temple walls, it was more an afterthought than anything. I just go with the "ignore" and "dismiss" bits of the wordings, the guy is just so not worth our time. Identify it and toss it over our shoulders. I wasn't introducing any awkward euphemisms, except in my link to the SPI case where I pipe-tricked it as "an old friend" or whatever. It was just shorthand, which I knew Bugs would pick up on right away. Yes, innocent bystanders wouldn't get it right away, but I did leave ample links, I'm not trying to hide anything and the more people who are aware of this little years-long game, the better.

My attitude to the whole LC thing could maybe be summed up with a paraphrase of what I briefly considered posting in response to your "when I decide to turn into a troll" comment: "Oh man, my life is already so barren and meaningless that I spend all this time trying to build this encyclopedia, I can't imagine it getting so much worse that I would spend any time actively trying to destroy it. :)" I didn't post it because I wouldn't be able to emphasize the jocularity over the potential attacks on others. But seriously, when I decide to turn disruptive, my plan is to go across the street and get one of those community garden plots, buy some hiking gear and maybe a sea kayak, and go watch the birds and small land creatures. Important as this encyclopedia is, it's also totally ephemeral to actual existence. I can understand the mentality of the common vandal who goes on a brief spree then realizes there are actual things to do in life. Those others who devote significant time ro trying to screw other people around, much less so. So yeah, there was no hysteria involved, just brushing a little lint off my sleeve. (And Lc has since been attacking the talk page with vigour, at least one IP has been blocked - but every picnic has its ants, right?) Franamax (talk) 01:12, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Also, nice to meet you Andy, my name's Francis but I also preferentially accept my long-time nic franco! Franamax (talk) 01:12, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

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		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		For {{this edit}}, and for being cool and constructive from the very beginning of the thread, I award you this Barnstar of Good Humor. I needed a laugh, and you came through. I've gone back to look at it four or five times, and it's funny every time. Kafziel 03:28, 27 March 2010 (UTC)