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I've reverted your change in redirect at Soviet; see Talk:Soviet. Also, have you considered further archiving your talk page? It's getting rather long. –] (talk · contribs) 09:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Briggs Enigma and Nevis Historical and Conservation Society
Hello Harrypotter, I just now noticed your note about this on the talk page of the article on the NHCS. I can try to see if anyone at NHCS has access to info about Sir Charles Briggs, maybe in their archives. I did want to say that there is a first-person historical account about Briggs in Barbados that is accessible via Googlebooks from a book called "English in the West Indies: or the bow of Ulysses" by James Anthony Froude. See here. Hope this is useful. Invertzoo (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
My problem
My problem is that these People's Commissars are exacly the same as Ministries. There are no differences, I've seen anywhere else where you create a seperate article for the same bloody thing. It haven't seen this happen in any other article, or topic, why in gods name should the Soviet government be treated any different? It shouldn't... Second argument, none of these articles seems to be growing, no one is working on them, and if its true as some say that there is enough information out there to evolve these articles from stub and start-classes into GA's, FA's or an article that is not easily mergeable, then yes these articles should have seperate articles. But there has been no work on these articles, no work on trying to expand them, and therefor its hard to establish a reason for why two articles about the same thing should not be one article. If you can prove to me by actually finding enough sources for both articles which can get both articles in decent shape, it would have been okay. But instead you seem to want seperate articles because they had different names, even if they worked exacly the same way and did the exacly the samething. Do you now understand my problem? --TIAYN (talk) 12:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- When did I say you couldn't use sources other than English? I use Russian sources all-the-time! And yes, there were some key differences from the people's commissars from other ministries, but those costums did not disappear when they renamed the whole-system. Question did these differences disappear with the ministries, or did the system continue? You are saying the commissariat's were special, but you seem to be skeeping over the point that the only differences between the ministries and the commissariats by the end of the day were none-existing.. And yes, I know, there was a different government for the RSFSR, but thats not what we are talking about, right?
- Oh yeah, you are vandalising the pages as much as I am; don't be arrogant! --TIAYN (talk) 21:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just to rub in your face, "they were infact ministers". --TIAYN (talk) 21:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Because you seem to be keen on insulting me. All I know is this, when sources confirm, and say that the commissars were in effect no difference from ministries, i beg to differ. Second, yes its true that the Bolsheviks thought the commissars were far-less burgouis, and yes, maybe there were differences from the early commissars and the ministry, but the fact is Joseph Stalin centralized all state-authority. If there was any differences, there may have been some in the pre-Stalin era. But seeing that the pre-Stalin consists, of lets say six years, before he took full control, its not much compared to the other twenty. --TIAYN (talk) 21:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- There are several other books which states that commissars is just the same minister, hence no real difference from commissars to ministry. Second my sources suggest that Stalin re-named the system, but didn't change the system, meaning there is no difference at all. They are the same organizations, just under different names. Seconds, no I didn't mean you insulted me by you disagreeing with me, that part i respect. Lines like this one, " perhaps the article might possibly grow instead of people having to deal with your distractions" or "So no I do not understand your problem, which appears little different from a subtle form of vandalism", are seen as an insult by me. --TIAYN (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- If its so important for you to create the political commissars/ministry articles for the RSFSR do it. The commissars created in 1917 continued after the establishment of the USSR. This is proven by the fact that many of the commissars of the RSFSR before the founding of the USSR, kept their old jobs. --TIAYN (talk) 21:40, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
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Plan
Plan, instead of naming the articles Ministry of People's Commissar of/for, instead we title People's Commissar and Ministry of Foreign Affairs... What do you think? --TIAYN (talk) 20:11, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
m: Talk:Meetup/London/38
Hello! --KYPark (talk) 09:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Hi. See also this as a result from your information. --KYPark (talk) 06:33, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
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People's Commissariat for Post and Telegraph
nice work Decora (talk) 22:03, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
First All-Union Census of the Soviet Union
nice job Decora (talk) 02:39, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
would love your collaboration
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http://www.afropedea.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.48.62 (talk) 03:02, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
warning
I've told administrators about your recent unconstructive behaviour, it is sad that you don't bother to read sources. I mean, seriously, even Soviet sources say it was reorganised or renamed, but as all sources notes, these reorganisation wasn't that radical and the basic system remaned the same. I will revert all your vandalist edits on wikipedia, but seeing that you used your time vandalising instead of having a consructive discussion on the topic, that's why i'm calling the administrators at you. --TIAYN (talk) 07:26, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
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Commissariats vs. Ministries
I support your intention to keep these articles separate and suggest you asking for a help on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Russia page. Let me know when you set up a request there. --Michael Romanov (talk) 15:38, 14 October 2010 (UTC)