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At first, I thought that you had added this, then I saw that this new account had. I do not care. I am willing to imagine that you added this anyway. I know that you are smarter than my treatment of you might suggest, but there is a reason why I do not acknowledge your ability and accomplishment. It is because that would be too easy. If you would look at how I fought to give ] back her name even though she dead, you would see that I am no ]. Do you see how I empathize with this woman who simply wanted to escape her stereotype? Do you see how helpless she was to escape that stereotype. Do you see how our own fellow Wikipedian's are part of the problem? OK, you are young, cute and smart. You do not have to put up with that shit. Wait until you get old, my dear. | |||
Do you see how much I admire and adore ]? Do I call ] a big fat dead Kite Dyke like others might? No. She might be obnoxious, but all I do is lovingly record indexes to her every word, as far as I can. Do you think I go and tear down my 12-year-old daughter's image of my ex-wife? Of course not! I want my only child to grow up to be a strong, successful woman like these women I adore. | |||
Alright! Yes! I did take our ], rip off her helmet, grab her by the hair and throw her in the mud. She can afford it. It was just to show you all that I, sniveling knave with nothing more than my pole-arm could dismount that female knight and do with her as I will. With just my mind. If the opponent at the time was ] then let us just go for it and do the maximum damage. It is not a destructive process. It is about the WHOLE story. It is about Integrity. Brutal, unblnking honesty. | |||
I want to write so much more about the feelings that I had when I thought that you had made this small concession. I am so hopeful for dialog with you guys, that I irrationally refuse to believe that "my bad", such a small concession, are not your heartful words. I am not looking to win. I am not looking to put you down. I really was considering comign to England, not to deal with you directly, but just go have a cup of coffee with your parents (and you know by now that I am crazy enough to do it, despite the moderate expense). I do not care that the words "my bad" are no your words. They are so sweet and lovely because they suggest that further dialog is possible that I will not let go of them. If you think that I am pathetic to live in such a dream world, then fuck you. I LIKE my little dream world where Zoe made a small and reasonable concession. I feel better than you can possibly imagine. If you still think that "Andrew loses", good for you (and keep such a thought to yourself). | |||
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SNK
Holla, que tal? =D (I'm brazilian, and you're spanish must be much better than mine)
Wish to know I did you want to delete SNK Boss Syndrome article. I'm not involved in it, but i'm curious... I was about to jokingly show it to some friends...
If you could awser me, my mail is kaze12@gmail.com
Thanks for the attention anyway
hope to see you,
Igor
Note: I love your name. Zoë, isn't it? ^^
- My reply is at User talk:200.199.34.37. User:Zoe| 17:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Your vote on the RFR poll
Hi, Zoe, you voted oppose on the requests for rollback privileges consensus poll, suggesting that people who would like rollback should just become admins instead - that being an admin is "no big deal". While I think that in an "ideal" Misplaced Pages, this would indeed be the case, I believe that over time standards for becoming an administrator have clearly risen. This is apparent by looking at the RFA system throughout Misplaced Pages's existence - intially, all one had to do to become an admin was just ask nicely, now we have a complicated procedure. A recent proposal on the RFA talk page for requiring at least 30 minimum support votes and a significant number of existing contributions was given some serious consideration. There is frequent talk of "bad admins slipping through the RFA net", and while you may not agree with that philosophy of adminship it is undeniable that the standards have risen.
Because of this, candidates who pass are already very experienced with Misplaced Pages. While this in itself is no bad thing, it means that for the month or so before they become admins they are not being given the tools an admin has which would help them to improve Misplaced Pages, by removing vandalism and performing administrative tasks such as moving pages. The qualities which make a good administrator are not determined by length of stay on Misplaced Pages or number of friends you have, but by personality and character. Time at Misplaced Pages only gives familiarity with the way things are done here. However, being at Misplaced Pages for an extra month doesn't grant any special insight into the ability to determine which edits are vandalism and which are not. This is why I believe that we should hand out rollback to contributors who are clearly here to improve Misplaced Pages but won't pass the RFA procedure because of their percieved lack of familiarity with policy by some Wikipedians. I think that adminship should be no big deal, like you, however I see just two ways to make sure Wikipedians can quickly and efficiently remove vandalism - either by all those who believe adminship should be no big deal involving themselves much more in RFA, or by supporting this proposal and giving out rollback to good contributors who have not yet been here long enough to become admins. We have to remember that our ultimate aim here is to produce an encyclopedia, and we should balance the idealism of "adminship should be no big deal" with the pragmatism of granting rollback to our best non-admin contributors. I would be very grateful if you would reconsider your viewpoint on this issue. Thanks, Talrias (t | e | c) 13:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Move discussion at Lost
Hey, Zoe. I thought you might be interested to know that there's yet another Lost-related move discussion underway at Talk:Lost. This one is about whether Lost should be a disambiguation page (as it is currently) or a redirect to Lost (TV series), with the disambiguation content moved to Lost (disambiguation). Since you'd voted in earlier Lost-related move discussions, I thought you might be interested in this one. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 18:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Current events
- Delete NN reportercruft. ;-) --GraemeL 19:36, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Incivility concerns on wikien-l
Regarding - this concerns me, as a listadmin, because wikien-l does in fact have a civility policy that is enforced. (We even had to go to moderating people's first posts to avoid the trolls. Complaints, even strident ones, are allowed (since wikien-l is the official place listed in block messages to complain), but going on about it isn't.) Do you have particular messages you consider make wikien-l "a viper's pit full of poison and bad faith" to such a degree that "most people would do well to avoid it in order to retain their sanity and their stomachs to continue on the project." We (the listadmins) very much look forward to details - David Gerard 11:29, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- If you can make it clearer what's what message and what's your commentary (if any), I'll list the link on wikien-l - David Gerard 17:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Joe-Max Moore
In view of the difficulty one generally has in monitoring responses to his/her queries at the reference desk, I thought I would leave a note to tell you that I responded to your question here; in short, I think our info is correct and that the putative Moore is wrong. Joe 06:16, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Image Poll (Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons)
you wrote: "Keep, Misplaced Pages is not censored. Should we next remove all images of women whose faces are not covered?"
I think that's a good point. --NilsB 21:04, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
User talk:Reneec
Hi, Zoe. I don't want to override your revert here, but, er, why just one step? There are lots of recent warnings in the history that would be useful for admins to see. Bishonen | talk 23:41, 4 February 2006 (UTC).
- Well, Reneec is editing it energetically as we speak, I guess I'll just leave it. Mine was a block warning, but removing it presumably means that s/he's seen it. The blankings are reported on ANI in any case, so never mind. Thanks and good night! --Bishonen | talk 00:09, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Les Mills
Les Mills exercise classes are of interest as an aspect of his profile, and available internationally, it would have been better to edit rather than simply delete. Paul foord 04:42, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
re George Reeves vandal
Hunh. I don't know what to make about the IP address from Virginia. Hopefully it is just some kind of weird routing thing or something. Thanks for helping out with this guy, Zoe. Herostratus 08:31, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
JDG
Thanks for reverting the edit i put on his user talk page - weird that he would revert my response to a question he asked. SECProto 23:48, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Publicitiy about WP:PROD
Please see my comments on the WP:PROD talk page. It actually was advertised in a number of very well known places. I look forward to your response. JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:37, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
- It is odd that you did not see it until the beginning of the test period was announced, as it was mentioned on the Village pump (proposals) on 17:27, 27 January 2006, minutes after the page was first created. It stayed on the page until 00:16, 4 February 2006 (UTC), when it was automatically archvied by the archiving bot. I don't know why you didn't see it, but the history of the page confirms that it was there... JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Xcvbg
just testing something. you caught me before I deleted it. thanks for the note.Mattpope
on a happier note
I'll answer the above about wikien-l in more detail, but I thought you might enjoy this testament to your good work. Ah, the joys of being the official port of complaint - David Gerard 12:08, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
- Not another terrorist sympathizer blocking American patriots! SlimVirgin 12:16, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Milano-San Remo
Hi! It's the 2005 edition of the Milano-San Remo cycling race. Danilot 21:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. Danilot 21:19, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Zoe pick up please!
Zoe help my articles check it out! MaoJin 22:18, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Nonsense and vandalism
My apologies... The page stated "Predicted and Scheduled Events"... I was merely making predictions. Yeah, they were unrealistic, but they were intended to be humorous. April 1st being April Fool's Day... You get the idea. I don't see how my predictions and someone else's can be any different in terms of importance. I don't think anyone would take offense to the Supreme Court reference... Some might find it funny. What's wrong with humour on the wikipedia?
If you'd like to talk further with me on this issue, I'd be glad to. My email is c.steffen@yahoo.com.
I understand your point, but I don't see how my posts hurt anyone.
Email this user?
Where would this link be? I see none.
So, if I wrote <<JOKE beside the joke post, it wouldn't take away from the legitimacy of the rest of the encyclopedia, would it? People would understand (as they should already) that the april 1st joke was not serious. It's not deleting anyone else's modifications, it's not distorting anyone else's information, and by denoting it a <<JOKE people will understand not to take it seriously.
What of that?
Zoe
I appreciate your message. I would encourage you to research and find the latest happenings in Denton about the mayoral race. You may not be up to speed on everything since you possibly are no longer living in Denton. These are factual statements, history in the making, that can be verified via the local filing office. After you have completed the research on this matter, please rewrite the information that is factual, legitimate and varifiable. I understand your compulsion to keep me off the encyclopedia, some users are abusing it, however I was merely trying to add to it, showing the current state of Denton.
Mauritania / Current Events
"Nemo of honour for diggin out details and working hard in improbable situations." I read on your page. I hope this doesn't jeopardize further cooperation, but instead of blindly deleting news, wouldn't you take one second to follow the wikilink and get the source? It's the first time I've used this "current events" thing, and you should be aware that news are news only as long as they are posted at the right time! Thank you for - I hope - unvoluntary censorship. I assume however your good faith, but don't be so hard when you see someone has forgotten something. Don't you think oil is important? Don't you think it's important to know what the new Mauritanian government does? I remind you that the new regime, led by Vall, has overthrow in August 2005 a guy who was there for 21 years, and that Mauritania is one of the poorest country in the world. Cheers anyway! Tazmaniacs 08:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
...a little bit disappointed...
Hi Zoe. Say, I was a little bit sad that you suggested that I was in violation of proper conduct (WP:POINT at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Pedophilia) without mentioning it to me first. I try to follow the codes as well as I can, and although like all I do fail from time to time, in this case I think I might have been misunderstood. Well no big deal. Anyway, yes that project is definitely going down, I'm having a little trouble seeing the overall benefit right now, but I trust the community to know what it's doing better than I do. Herostratus 16:37, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
- No problem, apology completely accepted, toatlly understandable. Shouldn't have even mentioned it, I guess I was just caught up in the whole thing, My goodness what a great lot of confusion! The whole thing is pretty funny, actually. CU around. Herostratus 21:36, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Racism?
Yo man sup, how you doin? I must request that you shut down the article,"Nigger". I find it very racist to my people. I mean, they insultin us on dat page. Please respond promptly. 50cent&loydbanks 21:17, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Outreau
Hey ! You can check the french version to have some links in french, or in Google... Gangel 04:58, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Godawful Fan Fiction
Sorry, I was wondering if you could tell me why the article on Godawful Fan Fiction was deleted, and why it was previously AFD'd?
Oh, I see. I hadn't realised this had already come about. It's a great pity, since GAFF has a very long history within the fanfiction community, and spawned whole subsectors of it, but I understand that this has already been decided. Sincerely sorry for troubling you.
WHY YOU -
"Zoe", I have never added any false information to Charlie, and he did have other animated or cartoon television series in the past from 1974 until the early 1990s and I have already gave proof to the show, before. - But, why does it get deleted, many times?
What now? Toss out only one picture of himself outside. No, I will never ever do that. - ABC did NOT print those pictures.
However, I am leaving Misplaced Pages.
Formerly 4.188.98.84
IMPERIALX5: My Chicken Alliance Wiki was being edited at the time you deleted it. I was just using a base Wiki to edit for this one. I wasnt done at that time.
IMPERIALX5: Sorry its my first one. I know for now.
America's theory
Tha's not a list of nonsese,maybe it is for YOU,that's a theory.
That's my job so you can't waste it,vandalize it or delete it.
So don't delete it.
Pierco
there is not verification,it is only a theory.
The world is made by theory and by dreams that become reality.
Pierco
Did you delete it?
you haven't the right to delete,vandalize or block anything.
Tha's not a nonsene,that's a theory,do you know what's a theory?
T H E O R Y
- The particular person who deleted it is not an issue. As I mentioned on my talk page (in reply to you), for one thing, Original Research does not belong on wikipedia. Please read Misplaced Pages:Five_pillars for other helpful information.
- —-- That Guy, From That Show! 2006-02-11 05:51Z
Hi Zoe,do you understand the word theory?
I understand it even than my english is poor.
So please think about it and think that a theory is not a nonsense and not orignal research.
A theory is a theory.
I'm writing it for another time on Misplaced Pages beacuse this is my right. So please tell me what are you thinking about it before than vandalize or cancel it.
Pierco
on a happier note
Oh, no, will the FBI be after me now? User:Zoe| 16:20, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
NO NO NO you stupid cunt! You and David and Geni have nothing to worry about from the FBI. The FBI is a strictly domestic enforcement agency of the USA. It stays within the US boarders, and when it fails to keep its attendtion strictly within those US boarders, some FBI agent gets whacked really bad, so that they do not do that again.
Now that CIA, well, that is a another story. They have only a few convert agents in the U.K. Yes, they do sometimes assassinate people that they do not like. I wish that they would not do that, but they do follow the rules some of the time. And I think that we have already covert the fact that there are other organization represented by three letters (and it starts with an "I" and...) -- 68.121.101.234 08:40, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Now, you stupid, dumb cunt. You have had me angry. That is an emotion within me. You are in trouble. You words were:
- I have to agree. This person, under whatever User name he edits, has long outlived his usefulness. User:Zoe|(talk) 19:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Are you ready my dear? I am coming for you. -- 68.121.101.234 10:28, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I am going to give you 24 hours to send me a clarification on that statement of yours. My email is amorrow@earthlink.net . My phone number is 650-799-8117. After that, I pack my bags. -- 68.121.101.234 10:31, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
my bad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ziploc (talk • contribs)
Zoe:
At first, I thought that you had added this, then I saw that this new account had. I do not care. I am willing to imagine that you added this anyway. I know that you are smarter than my treatment of you might suggest, but there is a reason why I do not acknowledge your ability and accomplishment. It is because that would be too easy. If you would look at how I fought to give Susan back her name even though she dead, you would see that I am no misogynist. Do you see how I empathize with this woman who simply wanted to escape her stereotype? Do you see how helpless she was to escape that stereotype. Do you see how our own fellow Wikipedian's are part of the problem? OK, you are young, cute and smart. You do not have to put up with that shit. Wait until you get old, my dear.
Do you see how much I admire and adore Catharine MacKinnon? Do I call Andrea Dworkin a big fat dead Kite Dyke like others might? No. She might be obnoxious, but all I do is lovingly record indexes to her every word, as far as I can. Do you think I go and tear down my 12-year-old daughter's image of my ex-wife? Of course not! I want my only child to grow up to be a strong, successful woman like these women I adore.
Alright! Yes! I did take our Joan of Arc, rip off her helmet, grab her by the hair and throw her in the mud. She can afford it. It was just to show you all that I, sniveling knave with nothing more than my pole-arm could dismount that female knight and do with her as I will. With just my mind. If the opponent at the time was a male then let us just go for it and do the maximum damage. It is not a destructive process. It is about the WHOLE story. It is about Integrity. Brutal, unblnking honesty.
I want to write so much more about the feelings that I had when I thought that you had made this small concession. I am so hopeful for dialog with you guys, that I irrationally refuse to believe that "my bad", such a small concession, are not your heartful words. I am not looking to win. I am not looking to put you down. I really was considering comign to England, not to deal with you directly, but just go have a cup of coffee with your parents (and you know by now that I am crazy enough to do it, despite the moderate expense). I do not care that the words "my bad" are no your words. They are so sweet and lovely because they suggest that further dialog is possible that I will not let go of them. If you think that I am pathetic to live in such a dream world, then fuck you. I LIKE my little dream world where Zoe made a small and reasonable concession. I feel better than you can possibly imagine. If you still think that "Andrew loses", good for you (and keep such a thought to yourself).
-- 69.228.190.230 22:50, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Three weeks of admin tools
Today three weeks have passed since I was granted access to the administrator toolbox. During this time I have made use of it in the following way:
- Protections and unprotections: 1
- Blocks and unblocks: 4
- Deletions and restorations: 69
- Rollbacks: 246
I've found that the rollback tool is much more useful than I'd thought for vandalism patrol. In fact it makes that task so easy that I've been doing it more than before. On the other hand I've been surprised by how little the blocking tool is needed. Having done a significant amount of vandalism patrol I have still only blocked one solitary vandal. The great majority of addresses which send out a vandal edit do so only once. Those who do it more often usually stop after a warning or two. Only rarely is a block actually needed and in those cases someone usually beats me to it.
As a side note I haven't retired from writing articles either. I'm still hoping to bring Freyr up to featured status but even though I've already performed more edits on it than on Hrafnkels saga back in the day, a lot of work remains to be done. Community expectations for featured articles have gone up and so have my own ambitions. I'm currently waiting for a couple of books I ordered to arrive and then I may be able to make the final push.
I'm trying my best to live up to the trust you showed in me by supporting my RFA. If ever you feel uncertain whether I'm using the admin tools in the best interests of the project, let me know. I am at any time willing to relinquish the mop and reapply for it to address concerns people have and ensure that I'm not using the admin tools without being trusted to do so. Haukur 22:38, 12 February 2006 (UTC)