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:::::::::The fact that you are quoting this partisan, unbalanced personal insult "exactly" does not mean it is presented "responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone." Look up the meaning of those words in a dictionary if they confuse you. Alternatively, go ahead and edit war this back into the article - nothing would please me more than to see you blocked. ] (]) 23:44, 1 November 2010 (UTC) | :::::::::The fact that you are quoting this partisan, unbalanced personal insult "exactly" does not mean it is presented "responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone." Look up the meaning of those words in a dictionary if they confuse you. Alternatively, go ahead and edit war this back into the article - nothing would please me more than to see you blocked. ] (]) 23:44, 1 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::Shanghai Sally, I think your comments have crossed the Wikiquette line. You should consider removing statements such as "it's a wonder you haven't been blocked yet, but it probably not far off" and "nothing would please me more than to see you blocked." <span style="font-family: Perpetua, serif; font-size:120%"> ← ] </span> 00:02, 2 November 2010 (UTC) | ::::::::::Shanghai Sally, I think your comments have crossed the Wikiquette line. You should consider removing statements such as "it's a wonder you haven't been blocked yet, but it probably not far off" and "nothing would please me more than to see you blocked." <span style="font-family: Perpetua, serif; font-size:120%"> ← ] </span> 00:02, 2 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Controversy
I think that the new controversy about his links to the expansion of Israel into Palestine be brought up considering that there is now sufficient evidence supporting this claim. >> http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/07/201071834019513292.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.12.194 (talk) 12:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
- The video, and several sources regarding it, is already mentioned and cited in the article. Hertz1888 (talk) 02:58, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Important information
The information removed here is very important, relevant and sourced. There is no reason to remove it. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 13:41, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Huggy82, There is nothing in the source that suggests that "Ha'aretz citation was not 100% sure whether Mr. Netanyahu said this or not.". Its his position about the attacks. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 13:55, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
A Boston Accent? What??!
The article states that Prime Minister Netanyahu spent six of his formative years in Cheltenham, Pennsylvania, a suburb of Philadelphia. Then it states that: “To this day, he speaks English with a Boston accent.” What is the correlation there? I live in a section of Philadelphia very close to Cheltenham (and my brother lives in Cheltenham), and I can assure one and all that anyone who is even reasonably adept in recognizing regional accents would never mistake a Philly accent for a Boston one! We are nasal, rapid speaking (like Chris Matthews), clipped and we do not pronounce our “r”s quite as distinctively as either New Yorkers or Bostonians. The actor Kevin Bacon has the archetypical Philadelphia accent, notwithstanding his coming from an upper crust family of Quaker heritage. (His late father had been an illustrious city planner and prominent in Philadelphia society for many years.)
While I served in the U.S. Navy, I got to be reasonably skillful at detecting various regional accents, having met people from all over the country. I could always pick the right area of the country and often the correct state. Listening to Mr. Netanyahu speak English, I would say he sounds Philadelphian, though slightly influenced by his native Hebrew, though I wouldn’t call that foreign influence profound enough to label him as one with a foreign accent; one of the few non-native American English speakers I have ever heard to hold that distinction. I attribute that to his having resided here for a couple years at a young age.
One wonders if Israelis consider him as speaking Hebrew with an American accent. It is said that Napoleon, from Corsica, spoke Italian with a French accent and French with an Italian one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryBuff14 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- I always thought it was New York or maybe Boston, with some Israeli thrown in.--Metallurgist (talk) 07:31, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Section blanking/removal of well sourced information
Removal of well sourced and important information such as this without any explanation, does not serve the purposes of an encyclopedia. Please discuss any issues you have with the information here first. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 15:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
request for removal
the international reactions to the bar-ilan speech is completly biased. 7/10 reactions are arab, and 8/10 are negative. its time to make it 50/50. END BIAS ARTICLES NOW--109.66.194.30 (talk) 20:16, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- If the World thinks this way, it is not bias to include it in the article. 95.25.146.209 (talk) 04:21, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Cohanim?
He is Cohanim or not Cohanim?
Also, what percentage of Rabbis are Cohanim? 95.25.146.209 (talk) 04:20, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- most likely a similar to percentage to non-rabbi kohens. perhaps the data can be teased out somewhere at Y-chromosomal Aaron.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 21:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Fact tags
Please do not remove fact tags from unsourced content. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 23:34, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Image
An image with his country's flag in the background is preferable. -The Gnome (talk) 14:48, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Joe Lockhart quote
Noon, can you please explain why you removed this quote? Its notable and its from a reliable source. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 15:54, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Read the entire Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons and then come back here.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 20:43, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- You have not provided a reason for removing the quote in your comment. It is NPOV - presented as Joe Lockhart describing Netanyahu, it is Verifiable - from a reliable source, and there is no OR - quotation and presentation is exactly as in the source. Therefor it is in accordance with Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 20:50, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Does this even need to be explained to you? Please stop the WP:BATTLEGROUND. Obvious WP:BLP violation - just absurd name calling.Plot Spoiler (talk) 20:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Please explain how its "WP:BATLLEGROUND" or a "BLP violation" ? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 20:50, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Putting in a derogatory quote from a political opponent is a clear BLP violation. You have been warned several times about this. Do it again and you'll be blocked. Shanghai Sally (talk) 21:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- There is nothing in the BLP policy that says that a quote from a reliable source presented in a npov manner is a BLP violation. How do you know I have been "warned several times about this" ? And I will ad it again if I cant get a reply to my questions above. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 22:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I can read - three different editors, on this page have warned you it is a clear BLP violation- add it again and you be reported, immediately. POV pushers like yourself need to be banned form wikipedia. Shanghai Sally (talk) 22:10, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- And these "three editors" have all failed to prove that its a BLP violation. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 22:15, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- You've been referred to WP:BLP. Read it. Among other things it says "Criticism and praise should be included if they can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, so long as the material is presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone. and "BLPs should be written responsibly, cautiously, and in a dispassionate tone" . You are violation so many parts of that policy that it's a wonder you haven't been blocked yet, but it probably not far off. Shanghai Sally (talk) 22:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Reliable secondary source - Haaretz, "so long as the material is presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone." - exact quote and "White House spokesman Joe Lockhart describing Benyamin Netanyahu", nothing unresponsible, uncautiously or passionate tone here. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 23:04, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- The fact that you are quoting this partisan, unbalanced personal insult "exactly" does not mean it is presented "responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone." Look up the meaning of those words in a dictionary if they confuse you. Alternatively, go ahead and edit war this back into the article - nothing would please me more than to see you blocked. Shanghai Sally (talk) 23:44, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Shanghai Sally, I think your comments have crossed the Wikiquette line. You should consider removing statements such as "it's a wonder you haven't been blocked yet, but it probably not far off" and "nothing would please me more than to see you blocked." ← ZScarpia 00:02, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- What's your opinion of an editor who repeatedly inserts a BLP-violating slur into an article, and feigns ignorance as to with what's wrong with it? Shanghai Sally (talk) 00:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Shanghai Sally, I think your comments have crossed the Wikiquette line. You should consider removing statements such as "it's a wonder you haven't been blocked yet, but it probably not far off" and "nothing would please me more than to see you blocked." ← ZScarpia 00:02, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- The fact that you are quoting this partisan, unbalanced personal insult "exactly" does not mean it is presented "responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone." Look up the meaning of those words in a dictionary if they confuse you. Alternatively, go ahead and edit war this back into the article - nothing would please me more than to see you blocked. Shanghai Sally (talk) 23:44, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Reliable secondary source - Haaretz, "so long as the material is presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone." - exact quote and "White House spokesman Joe Lockhart describing Benyamin Netanyahu", nothing unresponsible, uncautiously or passionate tone here. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 23:04, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- You've been referred to WP:BLP. Read it. Among other things it says "Criticism and praise should be included if they can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, so long as the material is presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone. and "BLPs should be written responsibly, cautiously, and in a dispassionate tone" . You are violation so many parts of that policy that it's a wonder you haven't been blocked yet, but it probably not far off. Shanghai Sally (talk) 22:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- And these "three editors" have all failed to prove that its a BLP violation. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 22:15, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I can read - three different editors, on this page have warned you it is a clear BLP violation- add it again and you be reported, immediately. POV pushers like yourself need to be banned form wikipedia. Shanghai Sally (talk) 22:10, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- There is nothing in the BLP policy that says that a quote from a reliable source presented in a npov manner is a BLP violation. How do you know I have been "warned several times about this" ? And I will ad it again if I cant get a reply to my questions above. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 22:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Putting in a derogatory quote from a political opponent is a clear BLP violation. You have been warned several times about this. Do it again and you'll be blocked. Shanghai Sally (talk) 21:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Please explain how its "WP:BATLLEGROUND" or a "BLP violation" ? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 20:50, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
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