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______________ Since you haven't responded I have removed the copyvio. Please feel free to restore if this is an error and the text you posted was not un-free. Spartaz 13:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

My Response

I've posted my thoughts in the ANI thread. To sum up: I see what you did as a bad idea, but not a violation of anything in specific. The sentiment seems to be that the indef block is excessive, even from some people you wouldn't normally count as fans, but I'm not going to take any action on it one way or the other. I expect that some totally uninvolved admin is probably going to look things over and demote the block to "time served" within the next few hours. Once that happens, we should have a serious conversation about how to best help newbies deal with Wikipolitics, too. For now, hope you're off taking a Wikibreak and de-stressing. If not, do so--the thread will absolutely be just fine without you. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 17:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Concerned

I'm concerned that you seem to think I have some sort of vendetta against you. I don't. In general I am happy for AfD to lead to rapid improvement of articles and I'm on record as supporting its renaming to articles for discussion, as we do for some other content areas; keep and delete have not been the only outcomes for a long time, after all. I don't think much of the whole business of pretending to be the Coastguard saving lives, most of the rescued articles are still marginal even after rescue, but that's just my own personal inclusion standards which I recognise are above the community norm. I am rather more concerned about giving poor advice to people whose behaviour needs modification, and ascribing motives where none exist. Guy (Help!) 18:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Unblocked

Hi Okip/ikip, I unblocked you yesterday. (In case you didn't already know!) You're being discussed on ANI. --RegentsPark (talk) 13:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

congratulations, i would suggest that rather than Girolamo Savonarola, the admins are more like William Chester Minor of the OED. (the history of that project is instructive) cheers. Pohick2 (talk) 14:38, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Deletion nomination of Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons/Contest/Box

Hi Okip, this is a message from an automated bot, regarding Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons/Contest/Box. You blanked the page and, since you are its sole author, FrescoBot has interpreted it as a request for deletion of the page and asked administrators to satisfy the requests per speedy deletion criterion G7. Next time you want a page that you've created deleted, you can explicitly request the deletion by inserting the text {{db-author}}. If you didn't want the page deleted, please remove the {{db-author}} tag from the page and undo your blanking or put some content in the page. Admins are able to recover deleted pages. Please do not contact the bot operator for issues not related with bot's behaviour. To opt out of these bot messages, add {{bots|deny=FrescoBot}} somewhere on your talk page. -- FrescoBot (msg) 00:27, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Please come back!

We need more of you and less deletionists admins who care nothing about the encyclopedia

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Richard Tylman (4th nomination)

Hi, Okip. Because you participated in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Richard Tylman (3rd nomination), you may be interested in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Richard Tylman (4th nomination). Cunard (talk) 02:19, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Need help

http://en.wikipedia.org/Extentia_Information_Technology This article was suddenly deleted under speedy deletion criteria. Need help restoring it. How can we do a 'fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic' ? You have guided me before. Thanks. Wikiven (talk) 08:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

He retired. Anyway, you contact the administrator who closed it, and ask him to restore it. Mention that Google news gives them coverage. Read through those results and find one that really stands out. That'll prove to them that it deserves an article, since that's what most people seem to go by these days. Dream Focus 11:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Count Alexander Flodorvich Lanzjeron.jpg

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Courtesy note

You are receiving this note because of your participation in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Iceland–Mexico relations, which is now being revisited at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Iceland–Mexico relations (2nd nomination). –xeno 17:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

ANI

As always, nobody informed you but there's talk at ANI about helping you out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.172.218.13 (talk) 11:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Just a piece of advice

You're an established user, so I won't use a template message to say this, but you should know better than to make edits like this one. Calling someone a 'pathetic liar' is a violation of our WP:NPA policy. I understand you've had conflicts with this user in the past, but in that case what you should do is disengage and just ignore them rather than further stoking the conflict. I recommend you concentrate on editing articles instead, and if you're feeling stressed, take a wikibreak rather than make an edit you'll later regret. Robofish (talk) 13:07, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

AniMate called A Nobody a "pathetic person", so Okip responded with calling AniMate a "pathetic liar". Got to take things in context here. Dream Focus 13:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

On closer inspection, you're right - I see that Okip's 'pathetic liar' comment was in reference to AniMate's comment about A Nobody. My apologies. Still, responding to one personal attack with another is never a good idea, so I just hope that all these editors can avoid insulting each other in future. Robofish (talk) 15:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

The first categorical difference is that one comment was made on Misplaced Pages, the other one was not. The second categorical difference is that Animate's Wikia comment was a conditional: He said that A Nobody was "pathetic" if several conditions were fulfilled. We all know they were, but Animate did not claim that, thus he didn't even "call A Nobody pathetic" at Wikia. Whereas Okip did, in fact, call Animate pathetic on Misplaced Pages, outright and went scot-free another time. Just noting the facts. --87.79.167.3 (talk) 08:47, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Annette Andre

Seriously you ought to be shot for deleting that article from wikipedia. Of all the lazy, ignorant things to do. You could have found a source in a minute and saved it. Dr. Blofeld 19:29, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Doctor Blofeld - Okip has never deleted any article from Misplaced Pages. Is there a real reason for this attack or have you perhaps made a mistake?   pablo_hablo. 20:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually he moved it to Misplaced Pages:Article Incubator/Unreferenced BLPs/Australia/Annette Andre. I think this is a perfect example of why I don't like the incubator idea - an unlinked and uncategorised overlooked article that is still on the Internet but not where you'd expect it to be, and then we wind up with two articles on the same subject. I'll merge them. ϢereSpielChequers 20:49, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Need your attention please

Hello Sir/Madam, some sikhism related Afd - Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/1984 ghallooghaaraa is going on. I have noticed that you had participated in some earlier sikhism related Afd discussion so I thought to notify you about this Afd as you might have some interest/extra-information for wikipedia readers out there. Good Luck.--DawnOfTheBlood (talk) 08:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

RfA

Thank you very much for your contribution to my Rfa. Even though you opposed me I respect your opinion. I have made a comment about it at User talk:JamesBWatson#Your Request for Adminship which you are, of course, very welcome to read if you wish to. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:58, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

RFC

I noticed that you participated in a previous RFC at Misplaced Pages talk:Notability (criminal acts)/Opinions. I was wondering if you might share your opinion here: RFC: Should Misplaced Pages:Notability (criminal acts) be merged with Misplaced Pages:Notability (events) and Misplaced Pages:Notability (people)? Thanks! Location (talk) 19:30, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of VGASAVE

An article that you have been involved in editing, VGASAVE, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/VGASAVE (2nd nomination). Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. - Ahunt (talk) 11:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding Eastern European mailing list

Following a motion at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Amendment:

Remedy 20 of Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Eastern European mailing list ("Miacek topic banned") is lifted.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, NW (Talk) 00:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Discuss this

Dale Hawkins

Hello Okip. In February you added a citation to a book from the "Webster's Quotations" series published by Icon Group International to this article. Unfortunately, Icon Group International is not a reliable source - their books are computer-generated, with most of the text copied from Misplaced Pages (most entries have by them to indicate this). I'm removing a lot of similar references; many other editors have also been deceived by these sources. Another publisher that reuses Misplaced Pages articles is Alphascript Publishing. Fences&Windows 22:59, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Ditto List of The Simpsons couch gags. Fences&Windows 01:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Article Rescue

You once gave me some good advice on an AfD . Much appreciated. The issue has come up again. In researching similar and related AfDs I see that there is no bright line separating educational lists deleted due to WP:NOTDIR and those educational lists which satisfy it. I was hoping that you might have some insights. --Paleorthid (talk)

Comment/Feedback

• I like your style and tone when making remarks, comments, and responses. Very professional. I just read a remark you left on another user's page and was very impressed with your diplomacy. In my short time here, I have noticed quite a bit of snarkiness so I thought I would give kudos where it felt appropriate. Sara-rockworth (talk) 08:10, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Okip retired months ago. He was one of my favorite, too. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 05:50, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 6 September 2010

• News and notes: Pending changes analyzed, Foundation report, Main page bias, brief news

• In the news: WikiLeaks and Misplaced Pages; Google–WP collaboration to translate health information

• Book review: Cognitive Surplus, by Clay Shirky

• Dispatches: Tools, part 1: References, external links, categories and size

• WikiProject report: Putting articles in their place: the Uncategorized Task Force

• Features and admins: Bumper crop of admins; Obama featured portal marks our 150th

• Arbitration report: Interim desysopping, CU/OS appointments, and more

• Technology report: Development transparency, resource loading, GSoC: extension management

For Your Interest

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Armageddon_theology WritersCramp (talk) 12:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

A kitten

FeydHuxtable has given you a kitten! Kittens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Kittens must be fed three times a day and will be your faithful companion forever! Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a kitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Spread the goodness of kittens by adding {{subst:Kitten}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message!

It was great to see you making a cameo appearance at AfD last week, glad you havent forgoten us! Just though I leave this kitten to watch over your talk in case you decide to return. God bless. FeydHuxtable (talk) 12:18, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey, thanks

Today my 25th article was featured in DYK. It's my 6th DYK for an article that someone else started, it was at AfD after being created by a new editor, and I was able not just to advise him/her (I see they made another new article today) and save the article from deletion but to expand the article and get them joint credit at DYK. I didn't know about DYK till someone nominated my Ali Forney article. I have learned so many useful things, like categories, dropping text below a pic or table, the basics of templates . . . from people patiently editing my articles, and from looking at examples edited by other people. From adding various lists of AfDs to my watchlist once I became aware of those, I've been able to save numerous articles and learned a lot from their topics. From that "Save a BLP" widget you used to link to on your userpage, I came upon Peter Zinovieff - which led me to create the page for his mother, Sofka Skipwith. Somewhere along the line I found the Pages Needing Translation into English project, and from there Category:Rough Translations - both have provided not only fun articles for me to clean up (I'm a geek that way, I genuinely enjoy making a good translation, and the assortment of topics and original languages keep it exciting) but inspiration for new stuff to translate, expand, or write up from scratch. I seem to have had a fairly rapid learning curve - no one objected to my first article, Leon Douglass, which was written in MS Word based on another biographical article, because I wanted to learn the markup language for a private Wiki (which came to nothing) and I had this newspaper clipping on this fascinating guy . . . What I wanted to remind you is how connected and collaborative it all is. You inspired me and showed me resources to help me find my way around here, whether you knew it or not. You did so for many others too, probably far more than you think. Whatever Jim Wales' defects as a founder or a leader, and no matter how top-heavy the structure is here (it may be inevitable that a large project attracts those who like bossing others around and rewards them for it), the crowd-sourcing model does work. A bunch of us together spot vandalism and revert it. A bunch of us together see weaknesses in an article and make it better. A bunch of us together see an AfD and fix up the article. I am glad to see you telling someone you are happier now you are away from here, but I wanted to stick an embarrassing reminder here of what good ripples you put in the pond, and a public notice of how Misplaced Pages really does work, still. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:52, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Tim McAuliffe

Hey there. Misplaced Pages:Article Incubator/Tim McAuliffe is about to be deleted, just figured I would let you know. You requested me to undelete it back in February, but it kind of languished there with no attention instead. BOZ (talk) 22:30, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

You're back?

Good to see you editing again. tens of thousands of articles survived because of the actions that you and others started earlier this year. That's something to be proud of. ϢereSpielChequers 10:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

You're back?

not really I hover a lot.

I was about to respond on your talk page but realized that on wikipedia (unlike wikia) people actually use their watchlist.

tens of thousands of articles survived because of the actions that you and others started earlier this year.

well, thank you, if I only believed this myself. :) But thank you for the really flattering comment. Best wishes.

I am around "lurking" if you need me. Okip 15:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I've dabbled in a couple of other wikis, and several other wikimedia projects here and its interesting to see how cultures differ. ϢereSpielChequers 07:13, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

i believe it too. the blp nonsense is troubling. they're back at it too, now that blp progress has "stalled". WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Unsourced biographies of living persons Accotink2 talk 18:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

November 2010

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Misplaced Pages:ANI#Inappropriate cleanup tag removal. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. If you have a problem with my use of cleanup tags, by all means bring them up at the ANI discussion. If you have a problem with some other aspect of my behavior which is not relevant to the discussion of cleanup tags, I invite you to start a discussion on my talk page. In any case, I'd appreciate if you struck your comments at ANI which mischaracterize my contributions. SnottyWong  05:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

i found the comments accurate. Accotink2 talk 14:18, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

• I concur. with Accotink2. Snotty should refrain from leaving "November 2010" presents for editors with whom he disagrees.--Milowent • 14:29, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

• To be clear, I wasn't trying to prevent Okip from scrutinizing my behavior at the ANI thread that I started, which is common. However, the point that Okip is repeatedly missing is that it's only common to scrutinize relevant behavior. If I make a complaint that someone is edit warring, and I am also edit warring, then scrutinize away. But, if I make a complaint that someone is introducing copyright violations into articles, it doesn't quite make sense to start an irrelevant discussion about how my user page violates WP:UP. This is what Okip was doing. I started a discussion about inappropriate removal of cleanup tags, and Okip fired into a rant about how I nominate too many articles for deletion. This is not helpful, and clearly only serves to make the discussion confusing. Some contributors to the ANI thread had fancy latin names for what Okip was doing, I prefer a more simple description: trolling. SnottyWong  14:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC)