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Thank you for introducing yourself

I wish I could vote for you in the elections but I am not a member yet but if I was I would support you totally. Thank you for sending me the message and I hope we can get in touch.This was from Catchacode.

Argh!

Watch that archiving! You should avoid archiving current discussions :P Anyway, The fan club. Yes, I'm up. --Phroziac _. o º

Actually, I'm going to bed. I'm up as in the answer to your question. :P --Phroziac _. o º 05:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm getting a bit tired of this

Heya, I see you've archived. That's fine. You still haven't actually changed anything to your manifesto page though, even though you are exceptionally biased. At the same time you've removed my comments from the page, before I had a chance to discuss that further with you (as I had promised I would).

This is all quite unfortunate.

Kim Bruning 12:18, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Just going to say hey

I don't know how traumatic your Talk page has been lately ( I can only imagine....very....) but I wanted to chip in and say I support you for what you have done. Undoing an admin action of Jimbo may not be the wisest thing ever, but on the other hand I don't think he should be held to some lower standards than all the rest of us. The whole point of the wiki idea is that we can all edit each other, and the whole point of Admin actions being reversible is to enforce the need for a consensus on Administrative actions....you are empowered by the design of the software as an Administrator to reverse the actions of any other Administrator. The culture that has developed around that on this particular wiki is that you should contact the Admin you're reversing, discuss it with them, blah blah blah, but that doesn't always happen, and imo that doesn't always have to happen. But the point remains that fundamentally, by the design of the software, you can reverse Admin decisions. I don't think Jimbo should be exempt from that just because he's Jimbo...if you're going to build a community that is based on the idea of collaboration, communication, and mutual accountability, you have to live by the same rules that everyone else on the community does, or you'll lose the respect of the community. Best wishes, and should you decide to go to RfA, contact me (I may not be watching Misplaced Pages that actively, since I'm on Wikibreak) so send me an e-mail or something, and you'll have my support. Ëvilphoenix 14:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

please remove deletion box

Admin User:Interiot seemed agree that the revised userbox Template:User CDP-USA is OK, when he replied at Template talk:User CDP-USA, yet he failed to remove the deletion box on the main page. Apparently, I as the creator am not allowed to do so. Would you please do this for me, so I can remain WikiLegal? Thanks.
--   Guðsþegn – UTCE – 04:06, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for your help, Karmafist. --   Guðsþegn – UTCE – 04:17, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

PROBLEM - The original deleter of the userbox is back, saying it is political campaigning. How is it so more than any other political userbox? What do you recommend I do?
  Guðsþegn – UTCE – 17:46, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks for saying "welcome", but...

I've been here for months. Better late than never, I suppose. Beisnj 05:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)chicken drumsticks

Apology over manifesto

I'm sorry for being a snarky dick about the manifesto. I don't think less of you personally and don't doubt your sincerity.

I should outline my problems with it on the talk page. They pretty much go: (1) Misplaced Pages is a project with a community, not a community with a project. (2) In the US Constitution, the purpose of separation of powers is specifically to keep government from getting too efficient; in a project with a focus, that's grossly counterproductive. (3) I notice that most of the people signing the manifesto are in fact people who've come on board in the last few months, i.e. relative newbies.

I'll think of more, put them on the page and stop being snarky. I'm sorry for offending - David Gerard 07:48, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Newbies aren't subject to groupthink or Jimbo worshipping. That's probably the reason, although I noticed the sigs of a couple of veteran administrators. I have a feeling that most admins and veteran editors are opposed to it because it dares to bring some checks into their lives. --Dragon695 04:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Yo, and thanks for the welcome/

Yo and thanks for the welcome karmafist wrestlenovi 05:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)chicken drumsticks

Your welcome template

Uh, no, I really feel that you shouldn't be doing that. --Phroziac _. o º 14:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Because you're dragging new users into old wars. --Phroziac _. o º

Thanks

Hello Karmafist, thanks for your message, I put only interlinks...--David59 20:30, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:Kwelcome at TfD

I've closed the discussion, given that it is now moot. Just so that you know. I've left Template:Kfwelcome alone, though I encourage you to move it to your userspace. (Doesn't hurt anyway, given that it's going to be subst'ed anyway) - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 11:05, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for message

Hello Karmafist,

Thank you for your message of welcome, I work on Wikipédia.fr since august 2004 under the name of Ollamh and here I put interwiki links. Regards, Ollamh (fr) 16:39, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcoming new users

Hi there :)

Just wondering, do you open one link at a time? It's really quick if you open say 10 at once in tabs in Firefox. :)

I'll concentrate on welcoming users that haven't yet been welcomed, as you are welcoming those that have just registered. James Kendall 19:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Question-your my admin coach

What exactly is an AutoWikiBrowser?

WikieZach| talk 20:31, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! WikieZach| talk

I support your request

In my earlier candidacy, I voted for a few other people. --Revolución (talk) 21:08, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I like the idea. I support your request. — Ilyanep (Talk) 22:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Agreed :) — Ilyanep (Talk) 22:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your message! It's something that I've been thinking of doing anyways... Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:35, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I support your request IFF everyone else is doing it. Could you let me know? Thanks. Bratsche 02:36, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, I agree totally. It's sort of a show of solidarity (my favorite social principle) and very much so in the spirit of Esperanza. I just don't want it to turn into an unfair advantage. Thanks for suggesting this. Bratsche 04:35, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

The Misplaced Pages Review

Have finally given up on these people. Total bunch of dorks. Shame, really. ElectricRay 23:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

No, they've just changed the service provider that hosts their board: ElectricRay 10:37, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Revolution No. 9 ... I saw your thread on WR - good luck but i think you're wasting your breath there...ElectricRay 23:26, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, another question

I have a great design for the advisory council logo, but it will take some time to download. WikieZach| talk 02:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

What's in a Symbol?

I was thinking (uhoh:) a good symbol for our movement would be a userbox showing a pitcher, with a red line through it and the caption "This user refuses to drink the Kool-Aid." Too invocative? Provacative? What thinkest thou?--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 03:21, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Reply

In the program paint I used the long Esperanza logo with the pink (skincolor) backround, and put the words 'Advisory Council' in the font Mistrail (size 22) of the color of green. I will download it tomorrow. WikieZach| talk 04:05, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I am going to transfer it as soon as I can. WikieZach| talk 05:35, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome Karmafist

Hi Karmafist, I appreciate your welcome. I was wondering if you and any others that read this could help me by checking out my article which is proposed for deletion and Chime in on the AfD discussion. I have proved that my article falls within Misplaced Pages's guidelines as a legitimate article, but I'm at a point where I feel the article is being blackballed by certain Misplaced Pages admins. After I've stated my case and provided what is necessary within the article to meet Wikipedias guidelines, Admins are coming back with statements like "Lastly, by your nitpicking every bit of the rules, you are not ensuring that the article will survive; however, you are finding the flaws in the rules that will likely be tightened up after this AFD regardless of the outcome." How am I supposed to state my case and see which guidelines to go by without referring to said guidelines? I've also read within Misplaced Pages guidelines "When in doubt, don't delete" So, all I'm asking is for some level headed Wikipedians to read the article and AfD and chime in with a vote based on whether my article truly falls within Misplaced Pages's guidelines or not. The article is everyonesacritic.net Thanks for listening and again, thanks for the welcome. --Dave 12:46, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the vote and your guidance

I appreciate you coming over to the AFD and putting in your 2 cents. I also appreciate the note you left on my user page in regards to all this. I just quickly want to respond to you bringing up violation of WP:AUTO. The thing is, the article is about a website in which my brother Dan is at the helm. I didn't create, nor do I administer the site. I am a member and I do believe in the site, but I don't think it qualifies as Autobiographical. I can understand why it might be perceived that way as my brother and I have similar first names and the same last name. Anyway, thanks again for chiming in. --Dave 17:01, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Rfc

Karma,

Within the next 24 hours, I will submit an Rfc against the admins who continuously speedy userboxes without consensus, and whatever else. If there's anything you think should be included on there, please let me know. --D-Day Somebody talk to me. Please somebody! Anybody! 16:43, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

RFAB

Karma, can you give me a link to Tony's RFAB that you mentioned earlier? Thanks. --D-Day Somebody talk to me. Please somebody! Anybody! 17:25, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

A Proposal

Well, Karmafist, I agree with you. But you did not point out some things, so I have a proposal for you. Please see this. Hopefully it's specific range will help, for that is my intention. Please tell me what you think. Эйрон Кинни 20:01, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Combine them if you wish. I have other duties to tend to for the moment. Эйрон Кинни 21:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I already combined them, contradicted myself, but I combined them :). Эйрон Кинни 21:45, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Advice

Please stop suggesting to delete a valid article with no reason. Misplaced Pages does not gain volume when people like you suggest that almost every new article should be deleted. Continuing to do this can be seen as vandalism and may get you blocked from editing Misplaced Pages.--User:137.82.96.26 15:54, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Uh huh. Sure thing, Mr. IP Address... Karmafist 23:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Heh, I just replied on his page too. You know once again we agree, you need your buttons back.....KnowledgeOfSelf 00:01, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, that's right, I forgot that your reordination is coming up. I'm looking forward to throwing in my support.... JDoorjam Talk 00:19, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

These warnings are hardly false. It would do you good to respect them. --24.83.101.207 00:08, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok. You're new here, so i'll help you out. Go to WP:VAND. Go down to abuse of tags. That's what you and your buddies did. That'll get you in trouble and guarantee your article to be deleted rather than almost guarantee it to be deleted. Ok. Have a nice day. Karmafist 00:17, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

re:and you're in it, btw.

User_talk:D-Day#The_RFC Hi, I don't know if your were talking to me or D-Day regarding the Tony Sidaway's RFAR. I tried searching for me "in it" but I couldent find any thing. If I'm "in it" what do i need to do there? Thanks! Mike McGregor (Can) 02:47, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

oops, i think i see the answer above. sorry to waste space here. Have a good one!Mike McGregor (Can) 02:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

re: fair election proposal

For one, mathematically all votes would be cancelled out, but unlike if we stayed silent, we are showing an affirmation of our support for each other.

No, MATHEMATICALLY votes wouldn't cancel out except on very special arrangements of voting. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 03:09, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok I musinderstod. If every candidate votes for all other candidates, then yes they will cancel out. But I feel it's pointless and it's like asking all other esperanzians to vote for everyone else. If candidates can vote, they should do so according to their preferences and beliefs. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 03:14, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcoming

I'm disappointed that it's not worked out, I really hoped you would not need to go back to canvassing new users. Whatever it is, good luck with it, although I would throw doubt on your upcoming RFA (which I intend to nominate you for, should you accept) if you went back to doing this. NSLE _(T+C) at 05:18 UTC (2006-02-20) 05:18, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for signing

Thanks for signing my manifesto. And yes, I was inspired by yours. I tried to focus more on principles though than on specific policy, which I think is the biggest difference. Anyways, glad you support me. Also, see the newsflash on my userpage. The Ungovernable Force 07:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Re:The Suggestion

Ah, but there is no cabal. Sure, we all get together and talk, but it's completely open. For example, communication goes on at the mailing list, on IRC, and on talk pages. Definitely not closed. And if there is one, I unfortunately am not part of it. Bratsche 13:31, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcoming

Thank you for introducing yourself.I would vote for you if I could but I am not a member of Eperemza yet so I can not vote.I hope we can keep in touch and talk.This is from Catchacode.Thank you!

Misplaced Pages Review

Are you really the Karmafist on Misplaced Pages Review? --Phroziac _. o º 17:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I came to ask just that. This looks largely counterproductive, particularly the first one. The banned users were kicked off Misplaced Pages largely for being irredeemable fuckheads who resisted all attempts at clue - David Gerard 17:10, 20 February 2006 (UTC)