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I brought this up at wp:ani but it's not that relevant. (Fine details of sort are important, but not my main point, I think we can live with any alphabetical ordering - especially when cat contents tend to group similar items anyway..). The issue is that your bot (and others?) appears to be acting only on recent or new pages (based on experience). It would be reassuring to know that this bot or another bot is applying the changes systematically starting at Aardvark and working up to Xylophone.. Does the bot do that ?, and if not can there be one please (I think I explained why at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Minor_technical_question). Just mark this section "done" if the issue is definitely already addressed, and a solution exists and has been implemented. Thanks.Sf5xeplus (talk) 16:21, 1 October 2010 (UTC) Well - yes and no. I have a BRFA for diacritics in biographies, and I have done all those pages. I did have a plan to do exactly what you suggest - and not just for diacritics - and for the excellent reason that starting at Aardvark means not breaking any ordering as you go through (if I remember correctly) but there was one extremely vociferous critic that sapped the energy out of the whole thing - believe it or not you can't change a space on WP without someone objecting - possibly me! However: what would be possible, if a little hard, would be to do it on a category by category basis: automatically identifying categories where an "out of order" (lets call it an O3) occurs and correcting all members. And of course setting default sorts for pages with diacritics only would also probably be acceptable. Rich Farmbrough, 16:39, 1 October 2010 (UTC). ok thanks. I'll be back (or get Yobot to fix it) if a similar problem occurs; now I've mentioned the probably of that becomes infinitely unlikely. Problem not resolved, but probably solved. As for systematic bot A to Z diacritic work - maybe wait a bit and suggest again. I can supply +1 !vote.Sf5xeplus (talk) 17:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

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I brought this up at wp:ani but it's not that relevant. (Fine details of sort are important, but not my main point, I think we can live with any alphabetical ordering - especially when cat contents tend to group similar items anyway..). The issue is that your bot (and others?) appears to be acting only on recent or new pages (based on experience). It would be reassuring to know that this bot or another bot is applying the changes systematically starting at Aardvark and working up to Xylophone..

Does the bot do that ?, and if not can there be one please (I think I explained why at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Minor_technical_question). Just mark this section "done" if the issue is definitely already addressed, and a solution exists and has been implemented. Thanks.Sf5xeplus (talk) 16:21, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well - yes and no. I have a BRFA for diacritics in biographies, and I have done all those pages. I did have a plan to do exactly what you suggest - and not just for diacritics - and for the excellent reason that starting at Aardvark means not breaking any ordering as you go through (if I remember correctly) but there was one extremely vociferous critic that sapped the energy out of the whole thing - believe it or not you can't change a space on WP without someone objecting - possibly me! However: what would be possible, if a little hard, would be to do it on a category by category basis: automatically identifying categories where an "out of order" (lets call it an O3) occurs and correcting all members. And of course setting default sorts for pages with diacritics only would also probably be acceptable. Rich Farmbrough, 16:39, 1 October 2010 (UTC).

ok thanks. I'll be back (or get Yobot to fix it) if a similar problem occurs; now I've mentioned the probably of that becomes infinitely unlikely. Problem not resolved, but probably solved.

As for systematic bot A to Z diacritic work - maybe wait a bit and suggest again. I can supply +1 !vote.Sf5xeplus (talk) 17:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Italic titles

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Back in July you were a model of efficiency using AWB to strip out {{Italic title}}. Just curious - not to seem demanding, I hope - would your technical abilities and/or old-school industry be sufficient to the job of restoring those templates where removed, in the wake of this discussion? Wareh (talk) 01:59, 3 October 2010 (UTC) Was it as recently as July? And I can't remember being very thorough about it although I try. Not to restore, specifically (although it wouldn't be that hard), but to install for, for example, all ships, novels or whatever the consensus is. Incidentally it would have been good to have been involved in the discussion - you may have missed that I was replacing or proposing, at one point (maybe back in 2009), more specific templates - I forget the names but effectively {{Novel title}} or similar. This allows policy to flip-flop without having to edit a zillion articles. I was also installing "Italic title" (I proposed a specific name for that I think) on taxon pages, the temptation of projects to build the formatting into infoboxes is very large - I see the ships are going down that channel? - but misguided because 1. not all articles will have the infobox 2. it then becomes very difficult to use the infobox without italics 3. it is not clear from the page source how an "effect" is achieved - newbarrier. Rich Farmbrough, 07:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC). Topic specific templates also allow automatic processing of standard exceptions for example "HMS Midgard" instead of "HMS Midgard" if that is needed. Rich Farmbrough, 07:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC). The connection to you only just occurred to me as I manually changed a couple of articles on books whose italic titles you had removed. I'm sorry if this news of the discussions was not timely (and I did in fact know nothing about your previous template proposals), but I hope even this belated information about the change in policy may be useful in the hands of someone who clearly knows a lot about templates, automatic processes, etc. I take it you are suggesting that {{Italic title}} could perhaps be routinely added according to categories, e.g. Category:Books by date. The problem is that even "books" is too narrow: Category:Works by author and Category:Works by date are really only slightly too broad, but they include a lot of non-"books" (by WP category) whose titles should be italicized in running text. Most everything in Category:Ancient Greek works by author and Category:Philosophical works by author (areas near and dear to me) should be italicized, but I suspect many of them are not categorized as WP "books." So, if more specific templates were to be developed, I'd suggest that {{Novel title}} is way too narrow: even {{Book title}} has coverage issues for the relevant range of works. You've already lost me with some of the technical issues you raise, but book titles (more or less) are where I'd really love to see automated changes in equal or greater volume to the previous italic-removals. Do you see a good chance of achieving that? Here's what may be the most practical idea I can come up with. If the article title appears in the lead '''''Like this''''', isn't that the best criterion for applying {{Italic title}} (or DISPLAYTITLE for longer titles that break that template)? This seems to me to apply perfectly the new policy at WP:AT, which is simply, "Use italics when italics would be used in running text." If you think that's a useful avenue, perhaps you can take it to WP:AT or the appropriate technical forum where such things get implemented? Or I can at your suggestion: but I am very inexperienced on the technical side. Wareh (talk) 15:01, 3 October 2010 (UTC) No criticism was intended. Yes I miss lots of discussions, and end up "sighing" some of the time - but I really couldn't keep up with them all anyway - this one seems to have come to an acceptable conclusion, although I'm not sure I agree with it, I have always found this issue tricky, and, of course non-critical (unlike invisible capitals in template names <joke />). The ' ' ' ' ' idea is great - cuts to the chase - in would include ' ' too, since that probably means that the bolding was forgotten. It would probably be suitable for a WP:BRFA - I have a bit of a backlog there right now. Rich Farmbrough, 15:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC). I'm glad that sounds useful--it really only occurred to me in the course of replying to you here. So does "backlog" mean you think you'll pursue that eventually, or would it make more sense for me to go to somewhere like WP:BOTREQ, and if so, with or without stopping by Misplaced Pages talk:Article titles first? (The policy at WP:AT is plain enough, but I don't want to step on any toes in initiating action on that scale.) Sorry if this is asking for too much hand-holding, but I'm only slowly learning the ropes of all this behind-the-scenes work. Wareh (talk) 15:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC) No it's fine, I'll get a BRFA in presently. I'm just trying to streamline the way I deal with it - although the average response time of the BAG is long. Rich Farmbrough, 16:06, 3 October 2010 (UTC). I'll drop you a note when it's there, and you can mention it at other venues to gain input. Rich Farmbrough, 16:07, 3 October 2010 (UTC). Thanks. You are a true Misplaced Pages public servant! Wareh (talk) 13:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

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Back in July you were a model of efficiency using AWB to strip out {{Italic title}}. Just curious - not to seem demanding, I hope - would your technical abilities and/or old-school industry be sufficient to the job of restoring those templates where removed, in the wake of this discussion? Wareh (talk) 01:59, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Was it as recently as July? And I can't remember being very thorough about it although I try.

Not to restore, specifically (although it wouldn't be that hard), but to install for, for example, all ships, novels or whatever the consensus is.

Incidentally it would have been good to have been involved in the discussion - you may have missed that I was replacing or proposing, at one point (maybe back in 2009), more specific templates - I forget the names but effectively {{Novel title}} or similar. This allows policy to flip-flop without having to edit a zillion articles. I was also installing "Italic title" (I proposed a specific name for that I think) on taxon pages, the temptation of projects to build the formatting into infoboxes is very large - I see the ships are going down that channel? - but misguided because 1. not all articles will have the infobox 2. it then becomes very difficult to use the infobox without italics 3. it is not clear from the page source how an "effect" is achieved - newbarrier. Rich Farmbrough, 07:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC).

Topic specific templates also allow automatic processing of standard exceptions for example "HMS Midgard" instead of "HMS Midgard" if that is needed. Rich Farmbrough, 07:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC).

The connection to you only just occurred to me as I manually changed a couple of articles on books whose italic titles you had removed. I'm sorry if this news of the discussions was not timely (and I did in fact know nothing about your previous template proposals), but I hope even this belated information about the change in policy may be useful in the hands of someone who clearly knows a lot about templates, automatic processes, etc. I take it you are suggesting that {{Italic title}} could perhaps be routinely added according to categories, e.g. Category:Books by date. The problem is that even "books" is too narrow: Category:Works by author and Category:Works by date are really only slightly too broad, but they include a lot of non-"books" (by WP category) whose titles should be italicized in running text. Most everything in Category:Ancient Greek works by author and Category:Philosophical works by author (areas near and dear to me) should be italicized, but I suspect many of them are not categorized as WP "books." So, if more specific templates were to be developed, I'd suggest that {{Novel title}} is way too narrow: even {{Book title}} has coverage issues for the relevant range of works.

You've already lost me with some of the technical issues you raise, but book titles (more or less) are where I'd really love to see automated changes in equal or greater volume to the previous italic-removals. Do you see a good chance of achieving that?

Here's what may be the most practical idea I can come up with. If the article title appears in the lead '''''Like this''''', isn't that the best criterion for applying {{Italic title}} (or DISPLAYTITLE for longer titles that break that template)? This seems to me to apply perfectly the new policy at WP:AT, which is simply, "Use italics when italics would be used in running text."

If you think that's a useful avenue, perhaps you can take it to WP:AT or the appropriate technical forum where such things get implemented? Or I can at your suggestion: but I am very inexperienced on the technical side. Wareh (talk) 15:01, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

No criticism was intended. Yes I miss lots of discussions, and end up "sighing" some of the time - but I really couldn't keep up with them all anyway - this one seems to have come to an acceptable conclusion, although I'm not sure I agree with it, I have always found this issue tricky, and, of course non-critical (unlike invisible capitals in template names <joke />).
The ' ' ' ' ' idea is great - cuts to the chase - in would include ' ' too, since that probably means that the bolding was forgotten.
It would probably be suitable for a WP:BRFA - I have a bit of a backlog there right now.

Rich Farmbrough, 15:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC).

I'm glad that sounds useful--it really only occurred to me in the course of replying to you here. So does "backlog" mean you think you'll pursue that eventually, or would it make more sense for me to go to somewhere like WP:BOTREQ, and if so, with or without stopping by Misplaced Pages talk:Article titles first? (The policy at WP:AT is plain enough, but I don't want to step on any toes in initiating action on that scale.) Sorry if this is asking for too much hand-holding, but I'm only slowly learning the ropes of all this behind-the-scenes work. Wareh (talk) 15:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

No it's fine, I'll get a BRFA in presently. I'm just trying to streamline the way I deal with it - although the average response time of the BAG is long. Rich Farmbrough, 16:06, 3 October 2010 (UTC).

I'll drop you a note when it's there, and you can mention it at other venues to gain input. Rich Farmbrough, 16:07, 3 October 2010 (UTC).

Thanks. You are a true Misplaced Pages public servant! Wareh (talk) 13:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Railway

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Hi, did you correct those Burmese infobox errors afterwards? Can you move all of the Gare de... in Category:Railway stations in France categories to ...... railway station. There is consensus to do so at WP:Trains. They should be in english.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC) E.g Gare de Colmar should be Colmar railway station.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC) See #Burma .. let me know. Yes that's not hard, when I get back about 5pm I'll get on to it. category:Paris Métro should not be a sub cat of Paris railway stations as this puts rolling stock into a station category. Rich Farmbrough, 13:03, 6 October 2010 (UTC). Gare Aero d'Montparnasse OK Gare de, Gare du and Gare d' I take it are fine to move, how about: Gare Maritime de Cherbourg Done Gare Maritime de Dieppe Done Gare Montparnasse Gare RER de Saint Germain-en-Laye Gare Saint-Lazare Gare TGV Haute-Picardie ? Rich Farmbrough, 13:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC). Mmm I'd go with: Gare Maritime de Cherbourg = Cherbourg Maritime railway station Gare Maritime de Dieppe = Dieppe Maritime railway station List here. Rich Farmbrough, 17:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC). Hang on a moment - I'm new to this but can't find the consensus for change described above. (Yes I tend to favour the Gare de .. title obviously.) Don't look at Category:Railway stations in Germany either :) . Lot's of stuff like Mannheim Hauptbahnhof. Particularly there is an objection to things like Gare d'Avignon TGV are in fairly common use in English, as are others. I'm worried that if you bot this it will make a mess eg consider Gare du Nord.Sf5xeplus (talk) 18:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC) Look on the talk page - specifically Manheim Hauptbahnhof and Gare du Nord are mentioned as exceptions. I don't think even if I was "botting it" I could affect the BBC pages... Or perhaps you mean the content of pages? There is no intent to do a search and replace (As far as I know.) Rich Farmbrough, 18:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC). Yes funny - I linked to the BBC to show an example of common usage.Sf5xeplus (talk) 18:38, 6 October 2010 (UTC) I'd also suggest (can that be demand) that the ones moved be moved back. This Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#Railway_stations discussion hasn't really established a consensus for such a big change. Also despite being an English word too, I don't feel that 'maritime' is the correct English translation, possibly 'marine' is better, but fundamentally its usage is specific to the name - a literal translation probably won't make much sense. Although not English the French names satisfy Misplaced Pages:Article_titles#Deciding_an_article_title, especially recognisability. This definitely seems to have been an error in your judgement in honesty.Sf5xeplus (talk) 18:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC) Of course you can Revert (using "undo" - not roll-back if you have that) - then go and Discuss - its part of the BRD cycle, although with a month elapsed form the discussion, it's not that bold. Just drop me a note to let me know which bits if any you revert - or if you wish discuss then revert if necessary. Rich Farmbrough, 19:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC). I might have but as I'm not objecting to the other changes they exceptions with "Maritime" would seem out of place. There seems to be a few examples in english of the usage that's been proposed/changed ("xxx maritime station"), I'm not sure if "xxx harbour station" or "xxx port station" is better or worse. Must do more research before acting.Sf5xeplus (talk) 19:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC) Note Just to make it clear - I've changed my position (on naming) from object to neutral - you can ignore the above.Sf5xeplus (talk) 19:50, 6 October 2010 (UTC) (Thanks for the note: RF.) Will try to get back to this today or tomorrow. Rich Farmbrough, 11:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC). More Anyway far be it for me to stand in the way of progress - if the station name is simply "gare de xxx" then I don't object to "xxx station" etc. I'm not sure about the ones with "maritime" in. However you did get the capitalisation wrong, its railway station (lower case) eg King's Cross station. (ok so some USA stations use Railroad Station with caps, but that's for another day). Sf5xeplus (talk) 18:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC) Yes that is what was suggested, and normally I love WP's "down" style, and regularly take Dr Blofeld out the back and threaten him with his own sharks for using capitals in things like "Splurgle District". However thinking about it for a moment will reveal that it is not that simple. If the name is "Gare d'" then Station is part of the name. Though I argue elsewhere that, for example Kingston University is also Kingston university, so "downing" is a fairly safe operation, where as "upping" is not (Manchester universities <> Manchester Universities for example), in this case I think the cap is justified. I am open to persuasion however, more: if you can get consensus from WP T on either style I will go with that quite happily . I would indeed personally prefer just "Station" or "station", since to my ear "Railway" is the default. Other varieties of English, however, may vary. Rich Farmbrough, 19:01, 6 October 2010 (UTC). Category:Railway stations in Belgium could be an example of precedence - 1/2 of it speaks French of a sort (or maybe that's wrong too). As an additional capitalisation of gare is not always done (except at the beginning of a sentence) eg , also http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=+site:www.lemonde.fr+le+monde+gare Le Monde uses lower case if not leading a sentence. eg No idea what the official French ministry of spelling and culture position is on this controversy.Sf5xeplus (talk) 19:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC) That's interesting. I am, sadly, an expert in neither Walloon (as I remarked earlier today, funnily enough) or railway stations, although there is a fascination about abandoned underground stations that probably speaks to either a deep character flaw, or to much "Quatermass" as a child. (Hobbs End I think? OR was that the good Doctor?) The place for discussion is is most likely the WikiProject. You can cut and paste this wholesale if you wish. Rich Farmbrough, 19:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC). Or maybe I should take your opinion, my doubts, and the talk page suggestion as consensus for lower case? IDK. I'l think on't. Rich Farmbrough, 19:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC). I've left a note at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#Capitalisation_of_french_railway_stations and on Blofeld's page too. I can let you know (though I've suggested others post here since I'm fairly certain this is a non-controversial thing already decided). I can let you know. the reason I'm hassling you about this is because I'm under the impression that you have 'thousands' of station articles to name change..? maybe that's not the caseSf5xeplus (talk) 19:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC) Thanks. It's about 400 - see the list I mentioned. I was planning on creating redirects to the Gare du Nord articles - an of course anyone could move back specific items. Oh and yes, re: Le Monde, French capitalisation differs from ours for proper nouns (e.g. Académie française) but that's about as far as my knowledge takes me. Rich Farmbrough, 19:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC). There seemed to be no objection to moving the pages to lower casing e.g Rouen railway station. These really should be moved as Gare means nothing to most non French speakers. I personally prefer the Railway Station capitalised but consensus at WP:Trains seems to be lower casing. "railway" station is necessary as "station could refer to bus station, tram/cable car station or even a scientific research station.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:41, 6 October 2010 (UTC) Thanks for the notes, will try to get back to this today or tomorrow. Rich Farmbrough, 11:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC).

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Hi, did you correct those Burmese infobox errors afterwards? Can you move all of the Gare de... in Category:Railway stations in France categories to ...... railway station. There is consensus to do so at WP:Trains. They should be in english.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

E.g Gare de Colmar should be Colmar railway station.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

See #Burma .. let me know. Yes that's not hard, when I get back about 5pm I'll get on to it.

category:Paris Métro should not be a sub cat of Paris railway stations as this puts rolling stock into a station category. Rich Farmbrough, 13:03, 6 October 2010 (UTC).

OK Gare de, Gare du and Gare d' I take it are fine to move, how about:

? Rich Farmbrough, 13:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC).

Mmm I'd go with:

Gare Maritime de Cherbourg = Cherbourg Maritime railway station
Gare Maritime de Dieppe = Dieppe Maritime railway station

List here. Rich Farmbrough, 17:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC).

Hang on a moment - I'm new to this but can't find the consensus for change described above. (Yes I tend to favour the Gare de .. title obviously.)

Don't look at Category:Railway stations in Germany either :) . Lot's of stuff like Mannheim Hauptbahnhof.

Particularly there is an objection to things like Gare d'Avignon TGV are in fairly common use in English, as are others. I'm worried that if you bot this it will make a mess eg consider Gare du Nord.Sf5xeplus (talk) 18:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Look on the talk page - specifically Manheim Hauptbahnhof and Gare du Nord are mentioned as exceptions. I don't think even if I was "botting it" I could affect the BBC pages... Or perhaps you mean the content of pages? There is no intent to do a search and replace (As far as I know.) Rich Farmbrough, 18:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC).

Yes funny - I linked to the BBC to show an example of common usage.Sf5xeplus (talk) 18:38, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I'd also suggest (can that be demand) that the ones moved be moved back. This Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#Railway_stations discussion hasn't really established a consensus for such a big change. Also despite being an English word too, I don't feel that 'maritime' is the correct English translation, possibly 'marine' is better, but fundamentally its usage is specific to the name - a literal translation probably won't make much sense. Although not English the French names satisfy Misplaced Pages:Article_titles#Deciding_an_article_title, especially recognisability. This definitely seems to have been an error in your judgement in honesty.Sf5xeplus (talk) 18:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Of course you can Revert (using "undo" - not roll-back if you have that) - then go and Discuss - its part of the BRD cycle, although with a month elapsed form the discussion, it's not that bold. Just drop me a note to let me know which bits if any you revert - or if you wish discuss then revert if necessary. Rich Farmbrough, 19:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC).

I might have but as I'm not objecting to the other changes they exceptions with "Maritime" would seem out of place. There seems to be a few examples in english of the usage that's been proposed/changed ("xxx maritime station"), I'm not sure if "xxx harbour station" or "xxx port station" is better or worse. Must do more research before acting.Sf5xeplus (talk) 19:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Note Just to make it clear - I've changed my position (on naming) from object to neutral - you can ignore the above.Sf5xeplus (talk) 19:50, 6 October 2010 (UTC) (Thanks for the note: RF.)

Will try to get back to this today or tomorrow. Rich Farmbrough, 11:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC).

Anyway far be it for me to stand in the way of progress - if the station name is simply "gare de xxx" then I don't object to "xxx station" etc. I'm not sure about the ones with "maritime" in.

However you did get the capitalisation wrong, its railway station (lower case) eg King's Cross station. (ok so some USA stations use Railroad Station with caps, but that's for another day). Sf5xeplus (talk) 18:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes that is what was suggested, and normally I love WP's "down" style, and regularly take Dr Blofeld out the back and threaten him with his own sharks for using capitals in things like "Splurgle District". However thinking about it for a moment will reveal that it is not that simple. If the name is "Gare d'" then Station is part of the name. Though I argue elsewhere that, for example Kingston University is also Kingston university, so "downing" is a fairly safe operation, where as "upping" is not (Manchester universities <> Manchester Universities for example), in this case I think the cap is justified. I am open to persuasion however, more: if you can get consensus from WP T on either style I will go with that quite happily . I would indeed personally prefer just "Station" or "station", since to my ear "Railway" is the default. Other varieties of English, however, may vary. Rich Farmbrough, 19:01, 6 October 2010 (UTC).

Category:Railway stations in Belgium could be an example of precedence - 1/2 of it speaks French of a sort (or maybe that's wrong too). As an additional capitalisation of gare is not always done (except at the beginning of a sentence) eg , also http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=+site:www.lemonde.fr+le+monde+gare Le Monde uses lower case if not leading a sentence. eg No idea what the official French ministry of spelling and culture position is on this controversy.Sf5xeplus (talk) 19:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

That's interesting. I am, sadly, an expert in neither Walloon (as I remarked earlier today, funnily enough) or railway stations, although there is a fascination about abandoned underground stations that probably speaks to either a deep character flaw, or to much "Quatermass" as a child. (Hobbs End I think? OR was that the good Doctor?) The place for discussion is is most likely the WikiProject. You can cut and paste this wholesale if you wish. Rich Farmbrough, 19:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC).

Or maybe I should take your opinion, my doubts, and the talk page suggestion as consensus for lower case? IDK. I'l think on't. Rich Farmbrough, 19:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC).

I've left a note at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#Capitalisation_of_french_railway_stations and on Blofeld's page too. I can let you know (though I've suggested others post here since I'm fairly certain this is a non-controversial thing already decided). I can let you know. the reason I'm hassling you about this is because I'm under the impression that you have 'thousands' of station articles to name change..? maybe that's not the caseSf5xeplus (talk) 19:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. It's about 400 - see the list I mentioned. I was planning on creating redirects to the Gare du Nord articles - an of course anyone could move back specific items. Oh and yes, re: Le Monde, French capitalisation differs from ours for proper nouns (e.g. Académie française) but that's about as far as my knowledge takes me. Rich Farmbrough, 19:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC).

There seemed to be no objection to moving the pages to lower casing e.g Rouen railway station. These really should be moved as Gare means nothing to most non French speakers. I personally prefer the Railway Station capitalised but consensus at WP:Trains seems to be lower casing. "railway" station is necessary as "station could refer to bus station, tram/cable car station or even a scientific research station.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:41, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the notes, will try to get back to this today or tomorrow. Rich Farmbrough, 11:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC).

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It occurs to me that any redirect that is categorised (Misplaced Pages:Categorizing redirects) excluding those which only have categories which are subcats of Category:Misplaced Pages redirects should always be printworthy redirects (Template:R printworthy).. Any chance of a bot for that?? Sf5xeplus (talk) 14:05, 9 October 2010 (UTC): Yes, but probably better to either ensure Category:Unprintworthy redirects is in the appropriate redirect templates, and the rest would be printworthy by default? Rich Farmbrough, 14:08, 9 October 2010 (UTC). Maybe - in an earlier life I might have created various unprintable redirects (spelling and caps variations) that I haven't got on a watchlist and don't remember.. I haven't done that for years since I learnt better. Following on with the logic - a bot could "printworthy" all mainspace categorised redirects, and "not-printworthy" all other redirects not already having "printworthy". A few printworthy redirects might get missed but that's a user problem.. The final sauce would be to have a bot to tag "printworthy" any "unprintworthy" redirects if they are subsequently categorised in the 'mainspace'. That would categorise all redirects, with only minor printworthy omissions - the omissions could be manually caught by categorising with "bot categorised unprintworthy" - giving a much more easily human-checked list of possible bot errors. Once done maintenance should be minimal.. Hope springs eternal.Sf5xeplus (talk) 14:28, 9 October 2010 (UTC) Yes I think there is something to that. I just changed 20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection: The Best of Rob Zombie to unprintworthy, it was the second one I looked at - and quite bottable. Rich Farmbrough, 14:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC).

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It occurs to me that any redirect that is categorised (Misplaced Pages:Categorizing redirects) excluding those which only have categories which are subcats of Category:Misplaced Pages redirects should always be printworthy redirects (Template:R printworthy)..

Any chance of a bot for that?? Sf5xeplus (talk) 14:05, 9 October 2010 (UTC):

Yes, but probably better to either ensure Category:Unprintworthy redirects is in the appropriate redirect templates, and the rest would be printworthy by default? Rich Farmbrough, 14:08, 9 October 2010 (UTC).

Maybe - in an earlier life I might have created various unprintable redirects (spelling and caps variations) that I haven't got on a watchlist and don't remember.. I haven't done that for years since I learnt better.

Following on with the logic - a bot could "printworthy" all mainspace categorised redirects, and "not-printworthy" all other redirects not already having "printworthy". A few printworthy redirects might get missed but that's a user problem.. The final sauce would be to have a bot to tag "printworthy" any "unprintworthy" redirects if they are subsequently categorised in the 'mainspace'.

That would categorise all redirects, with only minor printworthy omissions - the omissions could be manually caught by categorising with "bot categorised unprintworthy" - giving a much more easily human-checked list of possible bot errors. Once done maintenance should be minimal.. Hope springs eternal.Sf5xeplus (talk) 14:28, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes I think there is something to that. I just changed 20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection: The Best of Rob Zombie to unprintworthy, it was the second one I looked at - and quite bottable. Rich Farmbrough, 14:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC).

SmackBot duplicate tags feature request

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Sorry if this is not the place to leave this, but this is mostly a feature request I think. In this diff, it would be nice if SmackBot would notice that there are duplicate tags and remove the duplicated tags. Would this be easy to implement? Devourer09 (t·c) 16:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC) I'm not sure how hard it would be, it depends on scope, I suspect that the main difficulty would be dividing the list up into remove and don't remove, dfor example, multiple Expand section, or multiple Citation needed tags are legitimate (but not adjoining). Simpler might be to limit it to tag knots, in which case it would be fairly easy. I'll submit a BRFA. Rich Farmbrough, 16:31, 12 October 2010 (UTC). BRFA submitted and in trial. Rich Farmbrough, 02:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC).

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Sorry if this is not the place to leave this, but this is mostly a feature request I think. In this diff, it would be nice if SmackBot would notice that there are duplicate tags and remove the duplicated tags. Would this be easy to implement? Devourer09 (t·c) 16:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure how hard it would be, it depends on scope, I suspect that the main difficulty would be dividing the list up into remove and don't remove, dfor example, multiple Expand section, or multiple Citation needed tags are legitimate (but not adjoining). Simpler might be to limit it to tag knots, in which case it would be fairly easy. I'll submit a BRFA. Rich Farmbrough, 16:31, 12 October 2010 (UTC).

BRFA submitted and in trial. Rich Farmbrough, 02:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC).

Minor issues

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{{Wikibreak}} William Rodgers, Baron Rodgers of Quarry Bank Misplaced Pages:Good article criteria

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Someone has messed with the Snoqualmie, Washington Page - the "Location" has trash in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.136.218.242 (talk) 20:50, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

DNB

I've left a comment at WT:WP DNB#Bot_building about the new Magnus Manske tool in the area (Magnus put it together in a couple of hours after the meetup). I've never been exactly sure about the merits of importing text from Wikisource other than in an article: but I think the merits would be improved by a number of possible "added value" steps. One of those would be to take into account the output of this tool, and only import articles for the project to work on which come up as "none found" with that matching tool. I.e. remove or sort according to what the tool finds, which can be (a) no match, (b) very plausible match, (c) inconclusive run with numerous candidates none of which is a great fit, (d) > 50 hits. There is actually a good argument for first doing that sorting into four. The case (d) is one either for human intervention, or for another layer of matching attempt. Case (b) is the sort of stuff I'm going by hand, and invites work expanding stubs and adding the ext lk back. So anyway case (a) is the most fruitful at this point for an import.

And what else? Imported text should be topped-and-tailed in some way to make it more useful (will need a lead section, should finish with reference using {{cite DNB}} and attribution using {{DNB}}, both filled in with wstitle=). There is actually a lot of scope for stripping out parts of the article too: certainly the sections, and with more intelligence much of the inline refs between parentheses. NB the use of small caps within parentheses for author names, which should be a clue.

Charles Matthews (talk) 13:18, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Risk list bot

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I would love to see the BLP risk list turned into an ongoing bot. We could manage it as an ongoing queue by having the bot keep all the previous hits with context in a local file or DB on the backend. For example: Bob Smithinson: accused of an affair with his After this hit, "riskbot" would keep this in a local file or db, and then would filter it out of subsequent runs, context included. That way if the affair gets added back in with slightly different context, we'd get another warning. It would take all the "new hits" and append them on the bottom of the running queue page. As people check the hits, they'd remove them from the page. It's O(n^2) on the number of hits, but scrubbing one set of lines with another is pretty inexpensive, since it's just simple equality. Let me know what you think. Gigs (talk) 01:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC) It's worth doing I think. The time consuming part at the moment is actually accessing all the articles, thought they are mostly small. There's ways to optiminze this away however. Rich Farmbrough, 01:45, 31 October 2010 (UTC).

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I would love to see the BLP risk list turned into an ongoing bot. We could manage it as an ongoing queue by having the bot keep all the previous hits with context in a local file or DB on the backend.

For example:

Bob Smithinson: accused of an affair with his

After this hit, "riskbot" would keep this in a local file or db, and then would filter it out of subsequent runs, context included. That way if the affair gets added back in with slightly different context, we'd get another warning. It would take all the "new hits" and append them on the bottom of the running queue page. As people check the hits, they'd remove them from the page. It's O(n^2) on the number of hits, but scrubbing one set of lines with another is pretty inexpensive, since it's just simple equality. Let me know what you think. Gigs (talk) 01:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

It's worth doing I think. The time consuming part at the moment is actually accessing all the articles, thought they are mostly small. There's ways to optiminze this away however. Rich Farmbrough, 01:45, 31 October 2010 (UTC).

Misplaced Pages talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#Authentical plugin?

Yes, it is still there. I suggest we continue this on our talk pages(or you can add me in Runescape, as i also seen you on the rswiki) so do you know what to do to fix it?Joeytje50 (talk) 20:39, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, i am on the list, as the error for Joeytje50(not on list) is "Joeytje50 is not enabled to do this" while the error for Bot50(on list) gets the error "The password you provided is incorrect. (an authentication plugin rather than MediaWiki itself rejected the password)" And i asked Cook Me Plox, and i talked about it on the irc, and he doesn't know what the problem is.Joeytje50 (talk) 20:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Hmm.. what to do with this? Needs some tech attention at Wikia I guess. Rich Farmbrough, 10:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC).

Bibliographies

This is just a personal opinion, mind you. Like I said, I am, rather slowly, assembling bibliographies of the various geographical areas of the earth. As they would deal with things like the local flora, fauna, people, culture, and the like, they could also serve as the basis for things like, for instance, Bibliography of South American military history, which would be a selection of books about the military history of that area drawn from the bibliographies of the main states/regions themselves.

That will not however include such things as the sciences, or philosophy, or the major religions, and certainly not off-world topics like astronomy. They would probably need to be created entirely separately.

My own basic choice would be to maybe have others create bibliographies for the sciences, business, and other topics that don't have clear geographic ties.

I would think the items to be included would best include separate books/works on the topic that have been reviewed by academic journals and other reputable specialist magazines, and/or included in books or articles of bibliography of that topic.

There are obviously questions regarding how long to make these bibliographies, and that's a separate matter entirely. The bibliography of physics, like the bibliography of Christianity, would be potentially endless. For such broad topics, maybe the best way to proceed would be to look at the various extant reference works, like encyclopedias, that deal with the topics, and to start include only those works which are included in the bibliographies of the articles in those encyclopedias. That would be a start, anyway. John Carter (talk) 17:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

The bibliography of physics should probably include some well known wide ranging texts, Weidner and Sells, Richards, Wier, Zehrs and Zemansky I think are two, the vade meca of various fields, seminal works, and key references (Handbook of Physical Data?) and cross references to detailed, bibliographies of mechanics, relativity, gravitation, string theory, etc... Rich Farmbrough, 12:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC).

IPA dump search

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Hey Rich, If you have the time, would you mind doing another search of the dump, as you did at User:Rich Farmbrough/temp14? I've run through that last list. (20 articles which I can't do on my own are all that's left.) A couple things different this time: no article exclusions (I will simply have AWB ignore anything within templates, unless you can pre-parse those at your end), plus a couple extra characters we missed last time. (If you can search for pure diacritics, that would be even better; otherwise I've noticed some more common combos, such as β̞ i̯ u̯ e̯ o̯, plus another character, ‹ˁ› that is commonly mistaken for IPA ‹ˤ›.) Thanks, — kwami (talk) 07:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC) What do you think of this? I'll have a look at making this scan a regular thing. Rich Farmbrough, 09:47, 11 November 2010 (UTC). Yeah, silly me. That worked fine. We missed β̞ last time, though, and if individual diacritics aren't possible, i̯ u̯ e̯ o̯ will probably turn up a good number of hits. — kwami (talk) 06:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC) I'm doing my own search of the IPA letters (the first block in your search), so never mind about doing them again. However, AWB won't work w ˥ ˦ ˧ ˨ ˩ ꜛ ꜜ, which you included in that block last time. There are also a few new ones you didn't include and AWB wont' cover, if you can add them: ꜞꜝ ↗↘‖˕˔‿ and t͜ . Plus, of course, any diacritics, which AWB search doesn't handle well. Thanks!! — kwami (talk) 18:54, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

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Hey Rich,

If you have the time, would you mind doing another search of the dump, as you did at User:Rich Farmbrough/temp14? I've run through that last list. (20 articles which I can't do on my own are all that's left.)

A couple things different this time: no article exclusions (I will simply have AWB ignore anything within templates, unless you can pre-parse those at your end), plus a couple extra characters we missed last time. (If you can search for pure diacritics, that would be even better; otherwise I've noticed some more common combos, such as β̞ i̯ u̯ e̯ o̯, plus another character, ‹ˁ› that is commonly mistaken for IPA ‹ˤ›.)

Thanks, — kwami (talk) 07:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

What do you think of this? I'll have a look at making this scan a regular thing. Rich Farmbrough, 09:47, 11 November 2010 (UTC).

Yeah, silly me. That worked fine. We missed β̞ last time, though, and if individual diacritics aren't possible, i̯ u̯ e̯ o̯ will probably turn up a good number of hits. — kwami (talk) 06:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm doing my own search of the IPA letters (the first block in your search), so never mind about doing them again. However, AWB won't work w ˥ ˦ ˧ ˨ ˩ ꜛ ꜜ, which you included in that block last time. There are also a few new ones you didn't include and AWB wont' cover, if you can add them: ꜞꜝ ↗↘‖˕˔‿ and t͜ . Plus, of course, any diacritics, which AWB search doesn't handle well.

Thanks!! — kwami (talk) 18:54, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Note to self

Need to check on enzymes. Rich Farmbrough, 10:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC).

Burma

Hi. What's the chances of you being able to use your tools to help with dabbing for Burmese settlements. Check out Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Burma (Myanmar)/Township templates and User:Dr. Blofeld/Burma#Repeated places names...♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:57, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

What I'll do first is draw up all of the templates. Once that is done Abok should be linked inside two different township templates when currently it is just Abok and so. Most of them do not even have dab pages...Once I've drawn up the templates hopefully you will be able to read the what links here and run something... example:Ahlaw. Perhaps you have something which will be able to read the ... Township links and generate dab pages like Ahlaw with Ahlaw Paungbyin and Ahlaw, Tamu linked. Bets thought to wait until I've created all the templates so the links can easily be accessed in the what links here.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:09, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

What I envisage is a script which reads .... Township , e.g Ahlaw being linked in the template named Tamu Township and extracts the name and dabs them e.g as Ahlaw, Tamu. It would need to generate pages and also correct the existing links in the templates. Might need BAG approval. I've also proposed it to Plastikspork. Perhaps you could contact him and decide the best way to do it. Meanwhile I'll continue making the templates after I've stubbed some of the few missing township articles for Bago region..♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

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Norway

Hi Rich. A while back I began adding infoboxes to Norwegian villages, mostly unreferenced stubs lying around from 2006 which were created by Punkmorten (Geshicte). Given that he won't so much as make the tiniest edit to Norwegian geo articles these days, somebody has to do it.Basically it just adding an infobox with the location info county etc and a pin map like Kjelvik. I was wondering if you could copy the that infobox and use some sort of script to add infoboxes (and copy the coordinates from the bototm of the page into the infoboxes to the rest of the villages by county of the Category:Populated places in Norway. So far I've done Finnmark and Sog. Browse Category:Villages in Akershus for starters for example.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

What's troubling you Rich? I also need your help with User:Dr. Blofeld/Country year templates.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:42, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Respond eh? See voo play? :p

Hi Rich. You may want to comment at this discussion. Actually, it would be great if you could. :) œ 19:41, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Commented. Will attempt to revisit later. Rich Farmbrough, 22:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC).

Villages, North Cyprus

Hello, I wondered if I could ask you for help? Some time ago someone started a stub for all the villages of North Cyprus. The problem is that they used the Greek names, which are today historical (they have not been used since the war in 1974). Today the Turkish names are used. Hence, as I understand it, according to WP:NAME (see the discussion on Gdańsk vs Danzig) the Turkish names should be used in the articles (Please correct me if I'm wrong).

I have started moving some of the villages of the Kyrenia District -however, it takes for ages for me to do so. I would very much appreciate some help. Thanks, Guestworker (talk) 01:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Is there evidence that the Turkish names are used in the English speaking world? Rich Farmbrough, 19:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC).

Hi, you can look at any guide-book in English of "North Cyprus" or "Northern Cyprus" (Books which are published in the English speaking world) and you will see the the Turkish names are used. Thanks, Guestworker (talk) 06:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: Misplaced Pages:Database reports/Unlisted stub types

I like what you did with this report on the stub templates. Can it be updated? Can a similar report be run for the Categories? Finally, could these be automatically set to update, say, once a month? or even once a quarter? Dawynn (talk) 20:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's pretty much what I planned, if they are going to be maintained. However it looked like there were other lists doing a similar job that had not been attended to for a significant period of time. Rich Farmbrough, 17:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC).

Note there is a report for "Uncategorized Stub types" too ]. Rich Farmbrough, 05:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC).

Revive Wildbot?

A few folks would love to see someone revive and/or take over Wildbot. You've been mentioned a couple times: Up for it? --W☯W 20:25, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

List of townlands of County Cork

I note that you've tried to slim down the above page a bit. I took the matter of size to WikiProject Ireland but they didn't seem particularly interested! As you have been around Misplaced Pages a fair bit (apparently you've got a few thousands edits under your belt), I wondered if you had any ideas on how to make the article accessible to Joe Bloggs. Would splitting it up into List of townlands of County Cork, A–E etc. be acceptable? What's the point in having a page which 80% of readers won't be able to access? Thanks. —Half Price 20:42, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Splitting by barony would make more sense. Rich Farmbrough, 23:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC).

Yes, though significantly more troublesome. OK, thanks. —Half Price 11:23, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Except that I already did it.... Rich Farmbrough, 11:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC).

Yes, sorry, it isn't hard at all! —Half Price 16:07, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Smackbot 2010-12-25

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You Blog

I noticed your blog page. Im not sure if I should/can add to it, so I'll ask here. Unless sidelined to other WP activities, I usually do Random Article editing;commas, spelling, recasting, replace redundancy, etc. Reading your blog I realized how buzy an editor like you must be with all your interests, etc. Is there some simple mindless task that I could perform to assist you? (Emphasis on the simple) 40 years ago, I worked in a building as a Night Superintendant. The house carpenter worked at night, on his own time, creating beautiful dressers, etc. on consignment. I was his unpaid assistant and learned invaluable, life-long lessons in the Art of Carpentry. Maybe the same can happen for me at WP. Buster Seven Talk 19:30, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

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Smackbot

The bot is a little too active at the moment, its often times given edit conflicts today. can we slow down its work?(Lihaas (talk) 20:57, 30 December 2010 (UTC)).

I'll tweak. Rich Farmbrough, 22:12, 30 December 2010 (UTC).

Template:Infobox wine region

~~Being f~~ Fixed. BTW, hundreds of users have used the wrong infobox on UK school pages (maybe other countries too, I haven't looked yet). Do you know of a quick fix that retains the data? I can't use AWB on my computers. Cheers. --Kudpung (talk) 00:57, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh? Which template? I thought that there was a resolved discussion which ended up unifying the school (educational institution) infoboxes. Yes I have a fix for this sort of thing. Rich Farmbrough, 06:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC).

There is no cohesion at the schools project of the kind you get with a project like wine for example where there is a standardised template and a regular group of dedicated members who monitor the quality of the articles and intervenes where necessary. School articles are each and every one written by SPA, none of them read the guidelines, and in the same way as many new editors think every new article needs a new cat for it, they think every school type or school district needs a custom infobox. The end effect is that we have 39 different infoboxes out there where all we need are three: one for US Schools, one for UK schools, one for Oz schools, and a generic one for the est of the world. A big team has just recently improved the programme functions of the UK Schools infobox, and I've had a list made at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Schools/UK schools using wrong infoboxes of nearly 400 schools that are using the wrong one. I started to work through the list manually but I felt that this could somehow be automated as I am currently running the schools project pretty much single handed. Any ideas you have would be greatly appreciated. --Kudpung (talk) 07:14, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

I am pretty sure I replaced all except the UK/Oz ones a couple of years back. And at that time both were completely replaceable with the main infobox - I actually did a trial replacement of each, without loosing any fields. We flatter ourselves that "Ofsted" or "DFES number" is somehow special. Rich Farmbrough, 09:18, 31 December 2010 (UTC).

Hi Rich. Yes, you're right about the DfES and Ofsted fields, but if it was that long ago I guess the 370 on this list are more recent. They have either used deprecated boxes, or copied ones from other school articles. --Kudpung (talk) 19:12, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Years pages

Greetings! Your name came up in a discussion at Template_talk:Unreferenced#Internal_References. The suggestion was that one of your minion bots might be helpful in cleaning up bannerspam on the years, decades, centuries pages. How would you feel about that?--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 21:30, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

SmackBot removed an underline within math unexpectedly

Why on earthh did Smackbot remove an underline in sqrt(a_1) within math tags in the following edit , see the change for line 67. Dmcq (talk) 20:32, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Short answer, it's a bug. Long answer.. is too long. Thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 20:35, 1 January 2011 (UTC).

Removing noinclude tags

Why are you removing noinclude tags: ? These year pages are transcluded in higher level articles, and your removal royal screws up the entire chain. 68.35.24.151 (talk) 22:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining, I was told there was no current purpose. Onlyinclude is a better directive for this purpose. Rich Farmbrough, 22:54, 1 January 2011 (UTC).

I agree. It should be a straightforward task to take all the "year" articles and flip the logic. Even better would be to add a comment next to it as well, so people don't inadvertently remove it. I know I have done the same before in season episode list articles which were being transcluded in another article. Plastikspork _―Œ 23:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

infoboxes

Did you see my reply above? --Kudpung (talk) 22:57, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

No , I hadn't noticed that the Oz box had gone because that whole section on the schools main page is a template of some kind and I don't know how it got there in the first place, so no changes show on my watchlist. My main problem is still how to automate the change over of the near 500 pages here. --Kudpung (talk) 23:20, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

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I just noticed these and decided to take a look to learn the process since my own bot request is pending and I find myself somewhat shocked at the times. Does it normally take 2 and 3 months for a bot request to be approved? --Kumioko (talk) 04:37, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Well there are two new baggers, who have speed the whole thing up, trouble is a lot of momentum is lost. I find a problem code up a solution in relatively short order (minutes to days) and then submit a BRFA. By the time it's approved I have probably forgotten about most of it, sometimes someone else has fixed it, and my work is wasted... every-time there's ructions BAG says they will be more responsive. I have thought of joining BAG myself, but I don't want that responsibility - maybe I should bite the bullet - if the community would have me. Rich Farmbrough, 09:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC).

Problem is that you still won't be able to approve your own bots. --Ohconfucius 17:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

True but he could Deny, approve or review others which would free them up to do the same to his. --Kumioko (talk) 17:56, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes exactly. Rich Farmbrough, 17:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC).

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Project Stamford

I've taken up your invite to join, and hope I can do something helpful. But it seems to me there are clever people than me about.

R.J.Penhey (wikipedian RJPe (talk · contribs) might be a useful addition, although he might not want to get involved, judging by what he has said elsewhere. But his own research expertise is far superior to mine

The obvious person to write about Stamford Castle would be David Roffe. But I can't see that he is a wikipedian, unless you know differently. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 10:24, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

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Persondata

Duplicated entries. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

TY. Rich Farmbrough, 14:39, 4 January 2011 (UTC).

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Femto Bot, (possibly the smallest bot in the world) 23:19, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Femto Bot 4

Hi Rich. There don't seem to be any examples of Femto Bot having pinged bag members for this task. Would it be possible to get that done? Possibly on that request itself (hence me commenting here and not there), or by just briefly moving the time down to a couple of hours. If so, I'm happy to okay another trial, but for that particular function. - Kingpin (talk) 15:03, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok I'll have a look at the code, I was kinda reluctant to enable it even during the trial. Rich Farmbrough, 15:05, 5 January 2011 (UTC).

Well another thing I was going to mention was the times it waits. Basically, any chance of changing your waiting periods to at least 1 week to start off with, since that's what's suggested at BRfA, and seems more realistic than one/two days (alternatively you could write something slightly more complex to get the number of open BRfAs and base the time off that (if there are more BRfAs give BAG more time)). The other thing that needs to be discussed is having the bot turn on tasks once they are approved. How secure is this, could a user pretend to be a BAG member and get the bot to start before it's actually been approved? - Kingpin (talk) 15:08, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes time is a moot point. I'll have to think about it. With 12 "active" members BRFAs should be hit fairly quickly, though.
Hm yes they could, but they'd fool me too. Rich Farmbrough, 15:26, 5 January 2011 (UTC).

1) But of course, when it comes to BAG "active" really does need quotation marks =p. Well either 7 days or based on the number of open requests would be my suggestions. Also, how is the member to message selected? Have you done anything about looking at BAG members who previously commented? 2) Personally, I still think this bit needs to be semi-automated, even just have a pop-up box saying " is about to be , the last person to edit the request was . Continue?". - Kingpin (talk) 15:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Well the code to run the trials is still in early stages too. Probably I need to write some new "stop" code since I was relying on AWB built in feature mostly. Rich Farmbrough, 15:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC).

Okay, feel free to give me a poke once you're happy with the code. Especially that for the BAG pinging function (also I'm still interested about how you select which BAG member to message, hopefully you aren't messaging the same one the first time every time. Would also be good if you at least started with a BAG member who's already familiar with the BRfA (you could just steal that from AnomieBOT's report)). Just to quickly wrap up for now, here's what I feel should to be done -

Consider increasing time before a request is considered stale.
Take a look at some different methods for which order BAG members are messaged in.
Write up code for the auto-start of tasks, with some form of manual approval (I agree with H3llkn0wz on this, I'm not comfortable with it being fully automated). Best, - Kingpin (talk) 22:43, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Why?

Today Smackbot said that it dated the {{originalresearch}} tag on Pahlavi Dynasty whereas multiple changes were made to the article. The biggest change was the change from {{Wikicommons}} to {{:Commons}}. The former created a little box that indicated that material relating to the article is available on WikiCommons. The latter dropped the entire contents of Commons in to the article. That edit was reverted by an unregistered editor and Smackbot came along later in the day and redid it. I found it because a DEFAULTSORT conflict was generated.

I am certain that this change was unintentional but why did Smackbot do it and how can you insure that it does not happen again? JimCubb (talk) 18:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that it's related to removing "template:" from the template name internally, and ":" being a special character. I have escaped the : which should fix it. Rich Farmbrough, 20:14, 6 January 2011 (UTC).

smackbot missed something that anomiebot caught. (Lihaas (talk) 05:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)).

It misses loads, because I had to dump the old coding and re-write from scratch (if there's a build number beginning with "p" it's the perl version). But I didn't know it would miss that. Thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 11:25, 8 January 2011 (UTC).

Portal:Stamford

Are you going to work on this? It's outside my range so I don't think I could help you any. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • 06:14, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes I'm still getting to grips with the template. Rich Farmbrough, 11:33, 8 January 2011 (UTC).

Level 2 and 3 headline format

Smackbot changes Level 2 and 3 Headline text from the right to the wrong format. Right is == Level 2 ==, wrong is ==Level 2== by default. To know what format is right you click on the "A" button in the icon row above the text window, this produces == Level 2 ==. Please fix this quickly, in long lists such as the linked Global spread of the printing press such sweeping changes can be annoying. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 11:20, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't do that anymore (for months), but it's not wrong. It's preferred by many people, and us used more than the spaced version. Rich Farmbrough, 15:24, 9 January 2011 (UTC).

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Empty categories

Category:Empty categories, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. — Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 22:24, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

SmackBot: blanking a page

Here SmackBot seems to have been doing much more than dating my {{source?}} addition. The page was fully blanked! L.tak (talk) 22:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Femto Bot still creating categories with "specifically-marked"

Hi Rich, I'm not sure if you're aware, but Femto Bot (talk · contribs) continues to create Category:Articles with specifically-marked weasel-worded phrases from December 2010 and Category:Articles with specifically-marked weasel-worded phrases from January 2011 with the dash between "specifically" and "marked", despite the categories being renamed to omit the hyphen. Any chance you can get the bot stop creating the hyphened versions? They can't be populated anyhow. — ξ 07:49, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the category type was on a list, from which I happened to remove it a few days ago. Rich Farmbrough, 19:37, 10 January 2011 (UTC).

Should the tags for nominating categories to be renamed be purple in stead of pink?

Feel free to participate in the discussion at Template talk:Cfd all#Should the tags for nominating categories to be renamed be purple in stead of pink?. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:30, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

SmackBot

Hi. Re my previous concern about Smackbot's over-promptness in adding datestamps and so on: this is beginning to really annoy me. Within seconds of an edit, it's in there modifying the article, so that my subsequent attempt to edit hits an edit conflict. Can you please add a substantial delay before Smackbot acts? I would recommend 60 minutes. I don't see what is lost by having it wait a bit. EEng (talk) 19:56, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

It (the perl version) shouldn't edit before at least 15 minutes. I'll increase it to 25. AWB which is run intermittently, maybe a few times a day, has no concept of age. Rich Farmbrough, 19:58, 10 January 2011 (UTC).

Ok looks like this wasn't working. Will investigate. Rich Farmbrough, 20:10, 10 January 2011 (UTC).

I'm guessing you looked at ? EEng (talk) 20:50, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes indeed. Rich Farmbrough, 20:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC).

are AWB "fixes" to articles necessary?

Why bother making edits such as this one in which there is nothing actually wrong with the article? As discussed at Misplaced Pages:Tools/Navigation popups/About fixing redirects and elsewhere, the encyclopedia gains nothing and may well be worse off for making such changes, especially if nothing else in the article needed to be changed. Alansohn (talk) 01:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

This is not a redirect fix. Political divisions of the United States is not a good target to link "state" to, when US state is a available. On a separate note the page you refer to is horrendous shibboleth trotted out from time to time, in inappropriate contexts, and which builds arguments on performance based on a 2006 email list posting, then says performance is not an issue anyway (which in this context I agree with). Rich Farmbrough, 02:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC).

OK, but how is Misplaced Pages better off for the change, and why not use the correct link of U.S. state as a replacement, given that you're taking the time to make a change? The infobox uses the link Political divisions of the United States to make it as generic as possible, so that it is correct whether it's a state or any other variation of territory. Why change something that is barely technically broken to "fix" it to a link that's a redirect? Alansohn (talk) 02:06, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Because there is a long term movement in WP towards US and away from U.S., it it my opinion that this article will be moved some time in the next few years, making the US title the better target. Possibly I could leave this until the 2010 Census figures come out and pick it up at the same time. Rich Farmbrough, 02:21, 11 January 2011 (UTC).

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Categories nominated for speedy deletion

Hello. You may be interested to note that User:Mhiji has taken an interest to nominating every category in Category:Empty categories for speedy deletion, regardless of whether the category was just created or not. He has nominated several categories you created, including Category:Compost Records albums. McLerristarr | Mclay1 06:42, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I apologize for the extra work but I had removed some of the album artist and label categories, first because I had to fix some spellings or otherwise (Category:Candelight Records albums for example), doing it out of process because I thought it was a simple correction and didn't realize there was a process to follow. But then, I noticed many of the label categories were for labels that don't have articles, and I removed the categories (again out of process and I apologize) thinking that red-linked record labels weren't supposed to have categories since they don't have verified notability. I did just change an album you added into Category:Recall albums and changed it to Category:Recall Records albums, so that one's empty now. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 19:15, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

It's not a problem. I created most of these when I did a scan of categories that had something in them, but did not exist, and saw that many were album categories. I deleted the two bad cats. The remaining few I will investigate Rich Farmbrough, 19:41, 11 January 2011 (UTC).

Hi again. I moved the contents from Category:Def American albums, which you just created, because Category:Def American Recordings albums already exists. May I check others you've created in this manner and correct them if necessary? That means some may be emptied out of process but I won't remove album label categories from album articles just because the label itself doesn't have an article like I was doing. It will just be for corrections (misspellings, full/actual label name, other existing label category). You'll know which ones I've cleared once they start populating Category:Empty categories. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 17:44, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I would be delighted. It's not an out of process emptying if its a spelling mistake or misnomer. If you keep a note of the ones you empty I'll delete them. Also might be worth watchlisting them in case I re-create them. The other piece of maintenance is to update the infobox with the full label name. Nice to see Category:Candlelight Records albums with a few in it now. I'll do a bunch more album articles later. Rich Farmbrough, 18:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC).

Empty sections on ATCvet code QIxx

Hi! The sections you marked as empty in ATCvet code QI02‎ to ATCvet code QI20 (10 pages altogether) are meant to be empty. These sections of the Anatomical Therapeutic Chemical Classification System for veterinary medicinal products are (currently) empty, so there is nothing to add to our lists. Any problem if I revert you? And what can I do to prevent such edits in future? Thanks, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 09:51, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

What about adding "Currently empty" to each one of them? Better use italics too. This will help to distinguish between "empty on purpose" from "empty because it needs expansion". -- Magioladitis (talk)

Do you think it improves understandability (for humans, not bots) to have "Currently empty" or the like in each subsection instead of just the main sections? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 14:39, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Putting it on the main sections is probably best for humans. I'm not sure the value of listing codes for things that don't exist. It is also a shame that no-one cares if ferrets get mycoplasma, which is a nasty disease for such a sweet rodent. I have set that page to "None as of Janaury 2011." what do you think? It would also be possible to collapse empty sections thus:

QI20D Ferret

QI20AC - QI20DC

None as of January 2011.

QI20DD Live viral vaccines

QI20DD01 Ferret distemper virus

QI20DE - QI20DX

None as of January 2011.

Or to make the structure into a list - which is better in some ways:

QI20 Mammals
- QI20D Ferret
  - QI20DA Inactivated viral vaccines
  - QI20DB Inactivated bacterial vaccines (including mycoplasma, toxoid and chlamydia)
  - QI20DC Inactivated bacterial vaccines and antisera
  - QI20DD Live viral vaccines
    - QI20DD01 Ferret distemper virus
  - QI20DE Live bacterial vaccines
  - QI20DF Live bacterial and viral vaccines
  - QI20DG Live and inactivated bacterial vaccines
  - QI20DH Live and inactivated viral vaccines
  - QI20DI Live viral and inactivated bacterial vaccines
  - QI20DJ Live and inactivated viral and bacterial vaccines
  - QI20DK Inactivated viral and live bacterial vaccines
  - QI20DL Inactivated viral and inactivated bacterial vaccines
  - QI20DM Antisera, immunoglobulin preparations, and antitoxins
  - QI20DN Live parasitic vaccines
  - QI20DO Inactivated parasitic vaccines
  - QI20DP Live fungal vaccines
  - QI20DQ Inactivated fungal vaccines
  - QI20DR In vivo diagnostic preparations
  - QI20DS Allergens
  - QI20DT Colostrum preparations and substitutes
  - QI20DU Other live vaccines
  - QI20DV Other inactivated vaccines
  - QI20DX Other immunologicals

Rich Farmbrough, 19:31, 11 January 2011 (UTC).

At first sight, I like the collapsed version best. The disadvantage with the list is that it isn't consistent with the other ATC and ATCvet pages. Right now, ATCvet code QI20 looks a bit psychedelic. I can almost see "None as of January 2011" written on a chalkboard.

And a ferret is a carnivoran, not a rodent. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 20:06, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I knew I'd regret saying rodent without checking... Rich Farmbrough, 20:13, 11 January 2011 (UTC).
20:13, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

SmackBot sticking in stuff on its own in Scientific opinion on climate change‎‎

In Scientific opinion on climate change‎‎SmackBot is reinstating a citation needed that an editor removed. I removed it and SmackBot again reinstated it. Dmcq (talk) 18:20, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Oops sorry I didn't go back far enough. Dmcq (talk) 18:22, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Heh, no problem. It is getting a worryingly smart and opinionated over scientific matters. Rich Farmbrough, 18:24, 12 January 2011 (UTC).

DMY Tag

What is the use dmy dates tag for? I've noticed your placement of this tag on several pages I watch. I don't know what it is, or what edits I could make to resolve an issue. All dates on the page are in date, month, year format to my knowledge. Thanks. --Powerten (talk) 18:55, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

It's not an issue tag - hence it is invisible - it simply records usage. As time goes by dmy pages can pick up mdy dates and vice versa. If they are tagged it's easy to see when this happens. The same applies to "Use American English"and "Use British English". Rich Farmbrough, 19:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC).

Nomination for deletion of Template:Portal/Images/Wikipedia essays

Template:Portal/Images/Wikipedia essays has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Mhiji 21:40, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

A lot of duplicate albums categories

I'm finding an awful lot of duplicate categories that you've recently created.

You created Category:Ice T albums; pre-existing Category:Ice-T albums
You created Category:2Pac albums; pre-existing Category:Tupac Shakur albums
You created Category:Warner Brothers albums; pre-existing Category:Warner Bros. Records albums

and so on. I realise you are probably doing this through some sort of mechanical process, but really I think we need to a be a bit more careful in avoiding duplicates. These duplicate categories are even being placed on articles where the pre-existing one already exists, as with Rhyme Pays, which had Category:Ice-T albums and Category:Ice T albums on it. Good Ol’factory 09:46, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:ANI notification

I have started a discussion about your category creations at WP:ANI#Automated creation of incorrect categories, with the suggestion of an edit restriction. Fram (talk) 10:13, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

<sigh> Rich Farmbrough, 12:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC).

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