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I noticed nobody had said hi yet... Hi!

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Linking

Thank you for saying Hi.. Please help me fix page Johann and Page Anton Rupert so that Johann on this page directs to existing page Johann Rupert Thank you Gregorydavid 18:33, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I've fixed that on the Anton Rupert page, in this example the trick is : ] --Alf 08:08, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Borders of Africa in Anton Rupert article

Well, "hi" from me as well to another South African! Thanks for your supporting comments regarding this issue ... the Anton Rupert article really didn't seem the correct place for that particular debate/statement to me either. Regards, Elf-friend 12:30, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Johann

I'll assume you forgot the "please" in the "Could you fix and explain" part of your message ... otherwise it sounds awfully like an order ... and I don't take orders from anybody except my wife :-) ...

Anyway, when somebody (you?) put the redirect in the disambiguation page it seems to have ignored the rest of the page and made it just a redirect page ... I have deleted the redirect and just added Johann Rupert to the dab. list.

Regards, Elf-friend 09:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Sammy Marks

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Pretoria

You changed the first sentence in the Pretoria article, without citing a source to back up your claim that the name changed. If you look at the Pretoria page, as well as the Tshwane page, you will see a detailed description of the name change process. When/if the change is approved, you can change the first sentence. 168.209.98.35 03:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

List of South Africans

Hi Greg, I commend you for your enthusiasm about Misplaced Pages in general and you seem to be doing good work adding people to List of South Africans, but I don't understand why there are som redlinks because the list is supposed to be about South Africans with Misplaced Pages articles? Regards, Elf-friend 06:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi Elf-friend, you and user janto have questioned my practice of including links / red links to non- existent pages. If I do in clude the link it shows up existing content immediately, and I can go and examine it, if it shows up red I will quite soon create the content. I think the links I create have the same status generally than those that exist elsewhere. Who is to judge or estimate the probability of content being provided for links or key words?

As I say I will take responsibility to revisit thos articles I work on so that un-finished strings are dealt with.. Regards, Gregorydavid 11:22, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

The article that I started on Elisabeth Eybers is actually quite old (see its history) ... you just spelled it incorrectly (Elizabeth) in the list ... which shows one of the problems with your approach, I think.

As to the list itself, its stated purpose is to list all the South Africans for whom articles already exist, so I would again kindly request that you refrain from adding names for whom there are not yet articles. But by all means go ahead and create a (separate) list of notable South Africans who do not have articles yet - I think you will find that separate "request for article" lists are commonly used in Misplaced Pages.

Kind Greetings, Elf-friend 14:46, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi Greg, I certainly hope that myself and other Wikipedians have been patient with you, as one should certainly not bite newcomers :-). List of South Africans is certainly not for living South Africans only, otherwise I certainly wouldn't have added Mrs. Ples ;-). Kind Regards, Elf-friend 08:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi Elf-friend, Sometimes I have to go back again and read carefully what was said, I see you said existing articles and not existing people for the List of South Africans. Did you see all the red links under South African Writers? See Paul Roos where someone has reverted. I now know about three persons with the name Paul Roos. What does it mean to "know how to Wiki"? Regards, Greg Gregorydavid 08:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Knowing how to Wiki

I do not know what that particular person meant by “knowing how to Wiki”, but I feel that whatever it is, he has probably not mastered it himself yet, - please see the message that I left on his talk page .

In the case of two or more persons sharing the same name, it is better to start a new article about him (or her), with a "differentiator" in brackets after the name, such as: Paul Roos (South Africa).

Regards, Elf-friend 07:29, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Another belated welcome

Hi Greg; sorry for only typing this, but welcome to Misplaced Pages, also from a fellow South African. Good contributions so far, hope the Wikimania takes you too! dewet|™ 11:43, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

No problemo. And yeah, once the addiction sets in... ;) By the way, it's considered bad etiquette to edit user's pages directly -- messages to them should be put on their talk pages. But these are the small "rules of the game" that one learns as you go along... Regards, dewet|™ 14:31, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Cape of Good Hope

Howzit? I reverted this edit on Cape of Good Hope - the sense of the text changed with your edit. I believe that Cape Agulhas is where the oceans meet ? Wizzy…☎ 09:44, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

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Please fix if you can. Regards, Greg Gregorydavid 11:26, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

I put a request on Commander Keane's Talk page. This IP is probaby a proxy. Wizzy…☎ 11:39, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Edits to date

Username Gregorydavid Total edits 259 Image uploads 0 (0 cur, 0 old) Distinct pages edited 115 Edits/page (avg) 2.25 Deleted edits 0 (browse) First edit 2006-01-20 08:41:45 Edits by namespace Namespace Edits Articles 218 Talk 13 User 2 User talk 23 Project 1 Project talk 2 The end of contributions till unblocked.. Regards, Greg Gregorydavid 13:03, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Categories

Hi Gregorydavid! You recently put the article BBC into the category "24 hour news channels". I've reverted this change. The BBC article is about the organisation as a whole - and it is not a 24-hour news channel, it is a broadcaster. The article on BBC News 24, the BBC's 24-hour news channel, is already, correctly, in the category, so the BBC article doesn't need to join it. Hope this explains the reversion. If you've any questions, or need any help, please get in contact with me on my talk page and I'll be delighted to assist! Cheers! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 11:11, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi again! Categories are necessary but horrible, horrible things. They're never what you expect them to be and never work as you plan them to! But there's a dedicated and hardworking team at Misplaced Pages:Category schemes trying to keep things straight.

As such, there's no easy way of deciding - even the Category advice page says they are "cumbersome (categories can't be edited directly)" and "awkward (category listings are not present at the point of data-entry forcing user to remember category names on his own or guess)". I really hate to say this, as it's probably no use to you and certainly no use to me, but the only way of deciding on the fly is commonsense. I told you it was no use!

Misplaced Pages:Category is a long page with advice, which boils down to: place an article in the lowest possible subcategory, except where a better-focussed article is already there. Which isn't much use either!

The two ways I find correct categories are to either slowly drill down through Misplaced Pages:Browse or to search. The search facility is less than helpful when not looking for articles: I do a search for something that won't come up as an article (ie "category broadcasting" = Special:Search?search=category+broadcasting&go=Go) then scroll to the bottom, untick everything, tick "category" and remove the word "category" from the search string. That cumbersome method produces a search of categories that mention the other term (= Special:Search?ns14=1&search=broadcasting&fulltext=Search).

A third way is to look for similar articles and find what category they are in. If the original article isn't there, then add it.

A rule-of-thumb might be to say that if both the category and the article have existed for a long time and one is not in the other, there's probably a reason for it.

Sorry I can't be of more help - as I say, categories are horrible, horrible things! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 13:54, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Redvers, Thank you for confirming what I thought.. I used a precedent approach, ie I thought BBC is synonymous with CNN is some respects, hence my tagging BBC with a like category..

The delay in introducing TV to South Africa was a form of censorship, thats why I have tagged those two articles, ie SABC and Television in South Africa with that category.. I hear one must be bold on Wiki, so I know there are plenty of experts around who have plenty of time to fix things eventually..

It is interesting thinking about the modus operandi of all the types and roles of Wiki people..

Thanks for the time and effort to fill me in.. Regards, Gregorydavid 06:17, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

DKW fans

Hi Greg

Great to have at least two active contributors to this site! Keep on the good work! I know the SA page quite well, I've even contributed to an article there about Monte Carlo Rallying. I guess I have to add a section and picture about the Monza on Wiki pretty soon. Using that name and not writing anything...

Rgds,

Morten Dkwmonza 22:27, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Panama Canal mess

Hi, thanks for the notification about that bit of vandalism. Actually, all the pages I'm working on are on my watchlist, so I tend to notice things like that pretty quick; also, there's a whole bunch of good folks working on keeping the article clean right now (it's getting loads of edits because it's on the front page). Cheers, — Johan the Ghost _seance 20:57, 23 February 2006 (UTC)