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I appreciate your effort to add material such as Hind bint Awf, despite the AfD the article is fascinating looking back to expand the historical context in which Muhammed lived. Keep up the good work. I hope you add much more info to it over time, there are many questions about her and her life which the article raises right now and I can't wait to find out answers... Georgewilliamherbert 04:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! BDAbramson T 04:36, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations

I wanted to congratulate you for the administratorship above. Do you check your email? Salam PTW 03:39, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Moved from my main page

Dear Brother Striver: I can understand how you feel. Sometimes you need to take a break. I like your name Striver better than Hurted. I say to you wa la yu7zinuka el-lathina .... and do not be saddened by those people who... and also remember Imam Kathem (AS), Imam Ali bin al-Hussein (AS), Imam Hussein (AS) and Imam Hasan stories.

That is all coming from Qur'anic "wal-Kathimeen al-GhayDh."

I think the best way to ban bigotry is to be nicer to them as Imam Hasan(AS) did. Maybe you know the story but I will remind you of it. There was a shami guy who went to Medina after Hajj at the time of Mu'awiya rule and when he knew that Imam Hasan is who he is he started cussing on Imam Ali as Muawiyah taught those people. So Imam Hasan told him if we have hurt you, tell me how can I console you. And if not, then if you are hungry we can feed you and if you are sleepy we can offer you a bed. The man was astonished and eventually guided and his words became a proverb. After this treatment he used to say:"God knows best where he put his message." As followers of the gaurdians of the message, we should strive to present a good example even in the most hectic times as we were ordered by Imam Sadeq (AS). I know you are one of the great Ahl-ul-Bayt followers, may God help you present a good model of them too.

Do you have an email address? Wassalam Akhi 129. 00:03, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Links on Muslim

It is a bad precedent to begin (assuming it hasn't already begun, and if it has, its bad to continue). See the Jew article. There is a link to List of Jews that includes a link to all those respective articles you want to link. Perhaps consider creating one for Muslim professions and link that one article from the Muslim article. Like create List of Muslims or something, and insert those links there. Similarly, on the Islam page, we don't like, nor should we, to Islamic marriage, Islamic economics, Islamic science, Islamic banking, ad infinitium.

Personally, I really don't think lists really do much unless more information is provided. Categories do that same job, and are more efficient and effective. Something like, List of Presidents of the United States would be an effective list because it provides more information that just a basic list. Pepsidrinka 02:42, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Muslim politicians

Zoe has listed your page, Muslim politicians, for afd. Thought you might want to know. KI 04:08, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Muslim athletes

I know you are upset about the above-mentioned AfD, in the sense that it appears to wipe out the entire Muslim-related lists. However, nomination of other religion lists in response to this appears to be a disruption of Misplaced Pages to illustrate a point, which is strongly frowned upon by other editors. There may be a few editors, that may even be compelled to vote delete (selectively to only the original nominations) on such a basis.

Your reasoning by itself has been heard by other editors, and the discussion is heading towards a consensus to keep these articles. So may I kindly ask you to withdraw the additional nominations you have made, and allow the AfD to run its natural course. Thank you. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 13:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC) :)

AfD Comment

+Laugh and smile+! I wasnt planing on Islamic shopping, i dont see how that would whould have potential of becoming a long article. But it fits in Adab or maybe in Married life in the Qur'an and the Sunnah :)

I become anoyed since we already had Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Muslim athletes, and while we where talking about it in Talk:List of Muslims/Proposed Organization A, you just go and afd what we where talking about. This forces me to spend 1 or 2 houres to quikly make a article so it wont be deleted. Now its 3:15 AM, i have not sleept and i did not give a friend some information about 9/11, just because of this. And i dont appreciate it.

I know you mean well, just consider talking a bit more on talk pages. Also, i know that its not your fault, but i have a nasty allergic reactions to afd's, since User:Zora is stalking me and afd'ing everything here superinteligent intelect fails to grasb. Or she just delets my contributions since i have "Shi'a pov" and i "munge" articles with my "sub-standard prose" and that i generaly suck and should be "hospitalized". And if non of that works, she tries to orphan them by deleting all links to the article. argh.... She drives me nuts, and that is why im so easy to irritate....

Apologize accepted, i look forward to our continued talk on Talk:List of Muslims/Proposed Organization A :)

And i apologize for being dense and anoying :)

--Striver 02:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

First off, with your permission, I want to move this off the AfD. It is irrelevant to the discussion and just serves to extend the AfD longer than it needs to be. We weren't talking about this on Talk:List of Muslims/Proposed Organization A. joturner 02:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

OpenIslampedia

Salams/Greetings,

As a member of the Misplaced Pages community who has contributed to articles related to Islam, I thought you might be interested in a project I am trying to get going: OpenIslampedia. Please visit the site for more information.

While it is permissible to re-use content from Misplaced Pages (as long as it is cited appropriately and released under their GNU Free Documentation License), it is my hope that we will be able to develop new content for OpenIslampedia, more in accordance to the needs and desires of our community and audience.

Interested? Please consider joining us! As you probably know from working in Misplaced Pages, every contribution counts, no matter how small.

Ulises Ali Mejias

(UlisesAli 16:39, 22 February 2006 (UTC))

Muhammad Cartoons image

Hi Striver, you seem to have difficulty reading the talk page of Muhammad cartoons, so I'll just explain that everyone who responded to your question about why the image was removed said that the reason is that it is now included in the Opinions on the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy article, where all such opinions go. Niether this image] nor this one can go in the main article, because the main article no longer includes opinions. Cheers! Babajobu 17:39, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Appreciation interrupted

Hi Striver. I was going to thank you for your contributions, but then I just read in page that you hate me. Is there something in particular that I have done?DanielDemaret 18:39, 22 February 2006 (UTC) , or is "I hate you" directed to everyone that reads your page?

I just realized that perhaps it was someone else, and not you that wrote "I hate you" on your page. I am very sorry for the misunderstanding. So let me get back to saying that even if I mostly argue against your cases, what you write is intelligent and very interesting. DanielDemaret 19:00, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Cool

Så fint att vi bägge kan konversera på ett språk som bara någon procent här förstår :) Jag har frågor till dig, men det kan ta lång tid för mig att formulera, så bli inte förvånad ifall jag återkommer efter en tid till dig :) DanielDemaret 19:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Fråga om "Intent"

Jo, det var det där med "Further, what does the intention of the original user matter?" som jag tyckte lät intressant. Om jag ställer denna frågan: Anser du att det inte spelar någon roll ifall Fleming Rose hade för avsikt att förolämpa? Och om så är fallet: Vem menar du skall tolka ifall det var en förolämpning? DanielDemaret 19:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Bara så du vet. Jag har ställt frågan om "Intent" även till Chaos. Nämner det ifall ni två ville prata ihop er om ett bra svar. DanielDemaret 17:25, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Nishan-e-Hayder

Bro view the two links below

http://www.pafcombat.com/misc/gallantry-awards.htm

http://www.geocities.com/salman4paf/Operational_Awards.html

Zaidi 17:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Admin

Du frågad visst ifall jag var en "admin", och jag svarade aldrig för jag såg bara frågan nu. Svar, nej. Jag vill inte vara en "admin" just nu. Har annat att stå i. DanielDemaret 19:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

9/11

How do you propose the September 11 article be changed. I have read through most of the talk page, yet could you please provide me with exactly you want it to say. Put it on a sandbox or a subpage so that others may review your changes, rather than changing the main article. Pepsidrinka 02:51, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up on the second AfD. Improvement necessary but can come over time, deletion still a bad idea... Georgewilliamherbert 21:55, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Problem Reaction Solution

Hello. You have deleted, without comment, the deletion tag for Problem Reaction Solution. This article has already been deleted once (Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2005_August_23#Problem-Reaction-Solution). You may want to comment on this to prevent this article being deleted again. Best regards, Sandstein 08:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Haydar

Striver, It seems there is goup of guys who got really angry when they see Haydar-e-l-Karrar and they are bringing all names of Haydar to put in the page. Although it looks like they wuld also want to bring every Ali name and make the Ali page a disambig page, I do not want to get their low level of revert wars. So I made it a seperate page.Peace 129. 22:18, 26 February 2006 (UTC) TPW 22:18, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Even if this article were are true name article, your edits would be inappropriate, IMHO. As it stands, it is a disambiguation page which happens to give the Arabic spelling of the name. Your efforts would be better spent in finding the many Haydars for which Misplaced Pages does not yet have articles and adding them to the page, rather than forking Ali. Physchim62 (talk) 10:26, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for experimenting with Misplaced Pages. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. Jersey Devil 11:59, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

store

• Misplaced Pages:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits
• Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Conspiracies Guild

User:Kaimiddleton, User:Bov, User:Ombudsman, User:Zen-master, User:EyesAllMine, User:Adam Adler.

{{Category:Sahaba}}

Striver, you've been using the category page as a template and I want to know your reasoning. I personally think it's needless since the opening paragraph usually mentions that the person is a sahaba. Using templates also create more server load and is harder on the servers. You should discuss these thigns before you go off and do them. I moved teh category to the bottom on Muhammad ibn Abu Bakr before I had seen you doing it many places... I'm not going to change the others now but I just want you to talk with others... if they agree then that'd be good.

I don't exactly know what happened with your leaving and all but... I hope you're doing well. In any case reading your writing recently, it seems your English has improved a fair amount :) So, that's a good thing about Misplaced Pages, no? Okay, have a good day. gren グレン 16:09, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

But you added that to the style guide... did anyone concur? My problem is that many articles says "XXXXX was a member of the sahaba" in the first sentence... and using the category to say that as well just makes it redundant since they'd get the same information from the first sentence. It just seems like it goes against most other style guides and it doesn't tell us anything we don't already know.

By accuracy I mean that not all Sahaba were Muslims... I forget his name off hand... but the uncle that always protected Muhammad never converted... and wasn't he a Sahaba? gren グレン 16:33, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, okay... well, the category Sahaba would be very complicated... you can remove the accuracy if you want... because, with the difference in Sunni / Shia belief it gets too complex. (My Sunni teacher was talking about my example...) To the Shia, all Sahaba were Muslims? I do disagree with using the Sahaba thing... but I won't revert them... it does seem to me that in time they will get removed... but... make sure you put ] at the bottom and not at the top with {{Category:Sahaba}}. Since the category definitely belongs with the other categories at the bottom. Sound good? gren グレン 16:45, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Another problem is... I was just thinking of adding text to Category:Sahaba that would say "some of these Sahaba are only Sunni and others only Shia. Some are believed by the Shia to be Muslims while the Sunni believe that they were not. It is not conclusively known either way but they are considered Sahaba by some major group." -- which would show up on all of the Sahaba pages... which is not so good. gren グレン 16:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Don't remove the category... that's necessary. Just put it at the bottom with the other categories. gren グレン 19:19, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Danish humour

"People hardly ever make use of the freedom they have. For example, the freedom of thought. Instead they demand freedom of speech as a compensation." Søren Kierkegaard DanielDemaret 17:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Request for edit summary

Hi. I am a bot, and I am writing to you with a request. I would like to ask you, if possible, to use edit summaries a bit more often when you contribute. The reason an edit summary is important is because it allows your fellow contributors to understand what you changed; you can think of it as the "Subject:" line in an email. For your information, your current edit summary usage is 8% for major edits and 77% for minor edits. (Based on the last 150 major and 150 minor edits in the article namespace.)

This is just a suggestion, and I hope that I did not appear impolite. You do not need to reply to this message, but if you would like to give me feedback, you can do so at the feedback page. Thank you, and happy edits, Mathbot 23:02, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Vote solicitation

Hello, it's come to my attention you're requesting votes on people's talk pages for some articles that are on AFD. There was a complaint about it so I just wanted to let you know there is a guideline regarding that on WP:SPAM (subsection link:here). This is a guideline and not a policy so you may personally disagree with it, and that is ok, I just wanted to make sure you were at least aware of it. If you have any questions feel free to ask on my talk page. :D - cohesion★talk 00:47, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. May i ask what complaints? I did not send out messages at random, rather to people i know hade voted in similar cases. Thanks again and peace. --Striver 00:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I just wanted to mention the guideline, I looked at your contributions, and I don't really think you solicited very many people so, personally, I don't see a problem. See you around :D - cohesion★talk 01:11, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Conspiracy factualist

Your article has been listed for deletion; please add your comments to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Conspiracy factualist. The concern is clearly that this is a newly invented term with insufficient cultural currency to merit an article, so please see if you can prove otherwise. Postdlf 03:29, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for keeping an eye on all those articles for everybody. Just remember to relax a bit if you need to. What you are doing seems like it might be a bit stressful. SkeenaR 05:15, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

The Energizer Bunny

Dude, you crack me up with your take-no-prisoners battle-on-multiple-fronts approach. Thank you for being one of my favorite Misplaced Pages users. I once nominated User:SkeenaR for being King of Conspiracy Spotters. I now make my second nomination, and dub you "The Energizer Bunny." Peace to you my friend. Morton devonshire 10:40, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah babe, you really make my toes curl. MortonsSockpuppet 10:44, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

AFD

No problem! I left a vote on The Citizens' Commission on 9-11, but unfortunately could not decide one way or the other on Problem Reaction Solution... GregorB 20:39, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Blocking policy

I am close to just blocking you for disruption. I would of course put it up for review. I may just invoke WP:IAR and do it. You POV pushing agenda and constant creation of completely non notable articles and the trolling incessant commentary in some discussion pages, where you go on and on about the same tired nonsense are in no way helping this project. I am an admistrator and with that in mind, I am held to a higher standard, but I do tire of POV pushers and those with disruptive behaviors. I'm going to think this over and I am hoping that should you continue to behave the way you have, then you should expect what may come next. I would review our blocking policy especially the section at the top of the page after you click this link . Respectfully, --MONGO 22:52, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

New articles

I think at least some of the subjects you've chosen to make new articles on probably do deserve coverage, but they're awfully sloppy - stubs stretched out to articles by making skeletal outlines, and rife with spelling errors. You know you're under closer scrutiny now - you'd do better to work on an article in a word processor, get it to a decent length with plenty of references and/or citations, spellcheck it, and then submit it only then. Schizombie 23:18, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

This has gone beyond simple POV edits, you have been told several times by admins to stop your edits and reverts claiming "vandalism" when no vandalism has occured. Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Jersey Devil 01:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC)