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* ''(])'' — '''] → {{noredirect|1=Nativity}}''' — This is the primary meaning of " Nativity" in English. All other (common) uses are derivative and refer directly to this nativity, establishing the superior educational value of this topic. This article was in fact only moved from its original title (same as the proposed one) because it's content was focused on the birth of Jesus while its lede basically noted that "nativity" was a synonym for "]". The article can have a hatnote to the DAB page and to ]. (By this proposal it is intended that ] be moved to ].) ] (]) 05:53, 17 February 2011 (UTC) * ''(])'' — '''] → {{noredirect|1=Nativity}}''' — This is the primary meaning of " Nativity" in English. All other (common) uses are derivative and refer directly to this nativity, establishing the superior educational value of this topic. This article was in fact only moved from its original title (same as the proposed one) because it's content was focused on the birth of Jesus while its lede basically noted that "nativity" was a synonym for "]". The article can have a hatnote to the DAB page and to ]. (By this proposal it is intended that ] be moved to ].) ] (]) 05:53, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


* ''(])'' — '''] → {{noredirect|1=Template:Infobox train station}}''' — ] is ambiguous per that dab page - gas/petrol station, police station, radio station etc. *'''Support''' as nominator. ] (]) 05:24, 17 February 2011 (UTC) * ''(])'' — '''] → {{noredirect|1=Infobox train station}}''' — ] is ambiguous per that dab page - gas/petrol station, police station, radio station etc. *'''Support''' as nominator. ] (]) 05:24, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


* ''(])'' — '''] → {{noredirect|1=Propan-2-ol}}''' — Propan-2-ol is the preferred IUPAC name, though I might also be happy with the also commonly accepted ]. ] (]) 01:31, 17 February 2011 (UTC) * ''(])'' — '''] → {{noredirect|1=Propan-2-ol}}''' — Propan-2-ol is the preferred IUPAC name, though I might also be happy with the also commonly accepted ]. ] (]) 01:31, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

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February 17, 2011

  • (Discuss) — W. V. Quine → Willard Van Orman Quine — I do not support the renaming of this article, but I want to confirm that the article is at the correct name. I believe "W. V. Quine" is supported by WP:COMMONNAME. In this CFD, I proposed renaming the category to match the article name, but two editors disagreed and said that they thought that the article should be renamed. The CFD had few participants, so I want to find out if there is consensus for the current name or for the expanded name. --Good Ol’factory 08:12, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Nativity of Jesus → Nativity — This is the primary meaning of " Nativity" in English. All other (common) uses are derivative and refer directly to this nativity, establishing the superior educational value of this topic. This article was in fact only moved from its original title (same as the proposed one) because it's content was focused on the birth of Jesus while its lede basically noted that "nativity" was a synonym for "birth". The article can have a hatnote to the DAB page and to birth. (By this proposal it is intended that Nativity be moved to Nativity (disambiguation).) Srnec (talk) 05:53, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

February 16, 2011

  • (Discuss) — Iven → Iven, Ostvorpommern — The page "Iven" should be a disambiguation page for the village of the original article and Iven (given name). The suggested new page title adheres to the standards for naming geographical pages when creating disambiguation pages. The village obviously isn't important, the WikiProject Germany already has tagged it as such. While the given name might not be much more important, I'd say it's at least equally important and a disambiguation page should be created. --Leifsinger (talk) 22:37, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Francesco de Sanctis (critic) → Francesco de Sanctis — This page was moved without discussion to make way for a DAB page that has only two items on it (see WP:TWODABS). Google searches show that the critic is the more well-known by a wide margin. I don't particularly care if it gets moved or not, since the user that moved this page did fix the incoming links, but I think (since this happened recently with Francisco de la Torre as well) that we should have discussions about which topic is primary before create DAB pages with two items. Why should anybody in the future be inconvenienced by a link they thought should go to the critic's article, since he is the most famous Francesco de Sanctis, going to a DAB page? Srnec (talk) 22:24, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Avatar → Avatar (disambiguation) — Per the new guidelines at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, "An exception may be appropriate when recentism and educational value are taken into account, especially if one of these topics is a vital article. In such a case, consensus may determine that the article should be treated as the primary topic regardless of whether it is the article most sought by users." The guidelines' talk page uses Nirvana vs. Nirvana (band) as an example. If we are wanting topics of educational value to be the primary topics, then this particular topic should be the primary one. It was the primary topic before but was dislodged after this discussion. This new request to move should be considered with the new guidelines in place. Erik (talk | contribs) 01:17, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

February 15, 2011

February 14, 2011

  • (Discuss) — Mayhem (crime) → Mayhem — The common noun—even misunderstood—is the primary meaning of the word. Although my own experience is no evidence of common usage, I have never heard of any of the other options on the disambiguation page Mayhem and they are all proper nouns likely only to be used in limited contexts. (I have seen the Law & Order episode, although I never knew its name.) Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC I think that when "recentism and educational value are taken into account", and considering that this topic is a "vital article", it is the primary topic. Not one of the other topics on the DAB page is vital, most are very recent elements of pop-culture, and the educational value of a legal topic which is widely misunderstood is superior to that of every other topic on the DAB page. Srnec (talk) 18:02, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Greenville, Westchester County, New York → Edgemont, New York — Almost everyone who resides or does not reside in Greenville CDP refers to it as Edgemont, due to its being conterminous with the Edgemont Union Free School District. Most residents would not think that their CDP is Greenville, rather that it is Edgemont. Further affirming this request, half of Greenville CDP contains a group of neighborhoods colloquially known as the "Greenville side" and the elementary school serving these neighborhoods is called Greenville Elementary School. This may confuse residents who were looking for a page on the entire CDP of Greenville, as there is another half of the CDP referred to as the "Seely Side" and using Seely Place Elementary School Zfalk (talk) 02:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

February 13, 2011

  • (Discuss) — 2010–2011 Arab world protests → 2010–2011 Middle East protests — * As the article notes, there have been concurrent and similar protest actions in Europe and even South America. Iran may be just about to join in. All have been linked at least to some degree with the protests in Egypt and Tunisia, to a more significant degree than, say, the minor protests in Libya have. Should this article be expanded to something more general than "Arab world" protests, either now or after the scheduled Iranian demonstrations, at the least? Cjs2111 (talk) 13:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Jesuit spirituality → Ignatian spirituality — The main issues are that Jesuit spirituality implies that Ignatian spirituality is exclusive to the Society of Jesus, which is not true; that the title Jesuit spirituality is not inclusive of the other Ignatian Religious Orders (i.e. the Loreto Sisters, the Faithful Companions of Jesus, et cetera); and that Ignatian spirituality is in more widespread use than Jesuit spirituality. --Tjpob (talk) 12:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

February 12, 2011

February 11, 2011

  • (Discuss) — Renault 8B → Renault 8Gd — Current name of the article is not supported by its references. Evidence exists that the performance data (Bore, Stroke, etc), usage (Dorand AR1) and also Description (separate cast iron blocks for each pair of cylinders, liquid cooling, V 50°) would indicate that the engine described here is a Renault 8Gd. The Renault 8B should be an earlier V 90° air cooled motor. .--Voidmasta (talk) 21:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Savile Baronets → Marquess of Halifax — This page was created in 2004 under the title "Marquess of Halifax"
    It was moved to “Savile Baronets” in January 2007 with the edit summary,  :"moved to Savile Baronets as the baronetcy was extant the longest"and restored to the original title a couple of weeks later with the response :"when all titles are extinct, the article goes at the highest title"Which matches the relevant guideline. It was moved again to "Savile Baronets" a few weeks ago, this time with no explanation, and edited in such a way that the move could not be reversed.
    It is therefore necessary to propose it be moved back to its original title via WP:RM. Swanny18 (talk) 16:37, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Masai Mara → Maasai Mara — The proposed title is the correct name as used by the governing bodies that manage the area (Narok County Council and The Mara Conservancy It is also the preferred spelling on the official Kenya Tourism Website. The only argument against this move so far is the number of google hits between the two spellings - Masai Mara gets about 1,570,000 results and Maasai Mara gets about 634,000 results, however the quality of these websites should be considered. The double 'aa' spelling of Maasai Mara is used by the examples given above and the World Bank, WWF, and UNEP. The misspelling continues due to the number of tour operators who try to get visitors to their website, but it is respectful to the Maasai culture if the correct spelling is re-established.--41.81.6.224 (talk) 05:59, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

February 10, 2011

  • (Discuss) — Eesha Narang → Eesha Koppikhar — Per MOS:BIO, the article title should generally be the name by which the subject is most commonly known. She is credited by this name in most of her recent films. She has mentioned her name as Eesha Koppikhar in her twitter account. A Google search of Eesha Koppikhar produces 432,000 while Eesha Narang only fetches 65,200 results. If we take a look at the official website of her last released film Hello Darling, it also credits her as Eesha Koppikhar, though the IMDb page lists her as Isha Koppikar but also mentions in a couple of films that she is credited as Eesha Koppikhar. Narang is definitely out of question. --- Managerarc 22:27, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Backlog

  • (Discuss) — Pro-choice → Abortion-rights movement — or maybe just Abortion rights. Regardless of the ongoing debate at pro-life → anti-abortion (one article should not be held hostage to the bad name of another), the name "pro-choice" violates several naming conventions: (a) it is not a noun, (b) in is not international in scope (it is only COMMONNAME for the U.S.), (c) it is ambiguous (there are movements for choice in many other areas), (d) it is not NPOV: 'abortion rights' cuts to the quick as to what it's about. (However, the phrase abortion rights alone would cover only the legal status of abortion, not the movement to support the right to abortion.)Other titles, such as support for legalized abortion, etc., are also worth considering. — kwami (talk) 23:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Henry II of Sicily → Henry (VII) of Germany — The previous move request was invalid, since the name "Henry II of Sicily" is a Wikipedian neologism that this person is never actually called. We have no right to invent this stuff. At least the name I propose, the original name of this article, is found in more than one reliable source. In fact, I cited one source in the article, but that citation and that information has now been removed twice. Srnec (talk) 22:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Nedić regime → Serbia (World War II political entity) — Ok, I am now officially requesting that title of this article is moved to more suitable title. Since reasonable discussion about this with user:DIREKTOR is not possible, I will state my arguments here and I will propose voting where other users would have chance to say their opinion as well. I provided several sources that showing that name "Serbia" is used as designation for this territory (see these sources here). Furthermore, this article has an "Former Country Infobox" in it and it is located in categories "Short-lived states of World War II", "Former countries in the Balkans", "States and territories established in 1941", "Puppet states", "World War II occupied territories", etc. Note that territory/country and regime that ruled over it are very different subjects and that an article that speaks about one regime simply cannot be located in categories "countries", "states" or "territories" - regime is simply not an country or territory. It is obvious that this article mostly speaks about territory (not about regime) and there is no single evidence that term "Nedić regime" is used in any source as a designation for territory (All sources that using term "Nedić regime" are speaking only about regime, not about territory, and most common name of that territoty was "Serbia" - this could be also proven by some official documents from that time which could be seen here: , , , , ). If we do not move this to suitable title, Serbia would be the only WW2 territory that does not have its article in English Misplaced Pages and it will certainly undermine the quality of this project. --PANONIAN 18:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Phylo (video game) → Phylo — Phylo (video game) should be the primary topic for disambiguation. Google web search for Phylo brings up the game's page much earlier than Phylo (mythology). Phylo (mythology) has only a wrong link to Phylo (video game) under 'What links here'. Though a game, Phylo (video game) has a strong academic basis which should be taken into account. Ecruos (talk) 03:02, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Spark (fire) → Spark (particle) — The reasons are outlined by multiple editors in the two sections above. In summary, not all sparks as described in this article are types of fire, nor do they always cause fires, which seem to be the two main arguments against the move. While there was initially some worry over possible confusion resulting from this move, this seems to have been cleared up; no page could reasonably be potentially confused with the proposed one. Another editor has opposed the change since they feel that all types of sparks should be included in this article, however there is already a disambiguation page which distinguishes these particles from electrical discharge and the other electrical sparks described.--Yaksar (let's chat) 15:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Beekman Tower (New York) → 8 Spruce Street — "Beekman Tower" was the name used for this building while under construction, but it is no longer in use. The developers call it "New York by Gehry", which seems much too promotional (and a nonce name) to use as an article title. The article was at "8 Spruce Street" until moved in early December by User:Jerchel. I moved it back recently (see the discussion above), with the suggestion that if anyone objected, a Request Move should be opened. Today, User:Jerchel moved it back again to "Beekman Tower" without prior discussion. I would like this issue to be settled by a consensus discussion here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:35, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Ts'il?os Provincial Park → Ts'ilʔos Provincial Park — British Columbia's main page for this park, and other pages on that site, spell the name as Ts'il-os, Ts'il?os, Ts'ilʔos, Ts'il (symbol for glottal stop) os , Tŝ'ilʔos, Tŝ'il?os, Tŝ'ilʔos, Tsylos, Ts'ylos, Ts'yl-os, and Ts'yl?os. It is spelled exclusively with a glottal stop rather than a question mark in images, implying that the use of "?" is purely out of difficulty of typing "ʔ", and not because that is the proper spelling.There is no standard orthography for Chilcotin.Therefore, because punctuation in the middle of a word looks bad, because there is no general consensus to use the question mark, and because using the glottal stop letter to represent the glottal stop sound makes sense, I propose that this article be moved. 155.33.172.164 (talk) 00:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Rosalie → Rosalie (musical) — The article "Rosalie (film)" was created while the previous move page discussion was taking place probably by coincidence. That was about two weeks ago and I expect the page views have settled down, and I have considered the page views over these last two weeks. The musical play does not seem be be enough views for that article to be the primary topic, so I suggest moving "Rosalie" to "Rosalie (musical)" and moving the disambiguation page to "Rosalie". Snowman (talk) 19:46, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Székely → Szekelys — székely (plural: székelyek) is the denomination of the ethnic group in Hungarian. The corresponding English word, that uses English ortography, is Szekely (plural: Szekelys): . I'd like to ask the judging admins to consider the arguments themselves, not the numbers of voters from each side (Iaaasi (talk) 13:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC))
  • (Discuss) — Frot → Frottage — Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:16, 1 February 2011 (UTC) The title of the article appears to e NPOV because, as the article itself describes, "frot" itself was coined by persons who were advocating a specific approach to the sex act and who used it a center piece in their approach to gay rights. Moreover, "frottage" appears to be the predominate term in use. Mijopaalmc (talk) 22:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Momcsilló Tapavicza → Momčilo Tapavica — I am requesting that this page is moved to title Momčilo Tapavica, which was a native name of this person (as I recall naming policies, native names of the people are preferred in article titles and the current title of this article is not a native name of this person). Momčilo Tapavica was an ethnic Serb and his name should be written in Serbian language (Momčilo Tapavica), not in Hungarian (Momcsilló Tapavicza). He was a Serb born in Austria-Hungary (where it was not allowed that native Serbian names are used in official documents), but since dissolution of Austria-Hungary in 1918, this man lived in his own country Yugoslavia where his native name Momčilo Tapavica was in official documents written in his native language. We have opposite examples where articles about several ethnic Hungarian politicians from Serbia (i.e. Sándor Páll, Sándor Egeresi, József Kasza, etc) are entitled with their native Hungarian name, not with Serbian variants of their names, no matter that they for whole their life lived in Serbia. Momčilo Tapavica who lived in Austria-Hungary only in first part of his life is therefore, by my opinion, much stronger case for usage of his native name in article title. Previous voting about renaming was rejected only because 3 ethnic Hungarian users voted against this renaming (and I do not think that they were objective in their judgment) and because other users were not interested in voting. If needed, I would support opening of new voting where more users should be given opportunity to say their opinion. PANONIAN 20:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — West Papua (region) → Western New Guinea — Request a neutral admin (current nomination is a redirect) to move the page per nomination. I believe there is clear consensus as none of the opposers brought forward valid reasons for not moving, instead confused the discussion with claims such as that "Papua and New Guinea are synonymous", "WNG, which almost no one uses except for (some) Wikipedians" and "Western New Guinea name which was invented by Gzornenplatz and Wik during their edit war" which have been demonstrated to be false. Suggestions of alternatives such as "Indonesian New Guinea" or merging "the Indonesian Provinces "Papua" and "West Papua"," into this article, missed basic policy such as NPOV and Notability. --Elekhh (talk) 23:55, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) — Nations and intelligence → Worldwide distribution of intelligence — The current name of the article is not used in any reliable source, and is perhaps somewhat awkward stylistically. Moreover, the unit of analysis used in some of the relevant sources is race and/or continent, not nation. Therefore, I suggest that the article be renamed to Worldwide distribution of intelligence, which is a name that appears a few times in reliable sources such as Earl B. Hunt's Human Intelligence (WP:COMMONNAME), is more natural-sounding (Naturalness is one of the criteria in WP:TITLE), and succintly identifies the topics that the article is supposed to deal with (Precision criterion in WP:TITLE). 'Intelligence' is preferable to 'IQ' in the title, because some of the research is about international student achievement tests and the like that are not IQ tests. Moreover, 'intelligence' is the term used in many related articles such as Race and intelligence and Sex and intelligence.--Victor Chmara (talk) 10:26, 26 January 2011 (UTC)