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Revision as of 15:16, 17 February 2011 view sourceEdJohnston (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Checkusers, Administrators71,232 edits User:70.105.119.190 reported by User:Malik Shabazz (Result: Both articles semiprotected): Adding result← Previous edit Revision as of 15:34, 17 February 2011 view source Master of Puppets (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users28,455 edits User:Sundostund reported by User:Jack Merridew (Result: ): mediating this oneNext edit →
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:I also filled SPI yesterday. See ]. <span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14px"><b><font color="#4682B4">]</font></b></span> <sup>(<font color="#99BADD">]</font>)</sup> 03:51, 17 February 2011 (UTC) :I also filled SPI yesterday. See ]. <span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14px"><b><font color="#4682B4">]</font></b></span> <sup>(<font color="#99BADD">]</font>)</sup> 03:51, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


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Sundostund is just a day off a prior block for edit waring with another user over this same article. He also flipped-out Will's 'Acting President' change. Cheers, ] 12:02, 17 February 2011 (UTC) Sundostund is just a day off a prior block for edit waring with another user over this same article. He also flipped-out Will's 'Acting President' change. Cheers, ] 12:02, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:If I'll be blocked, then Jack should also be, because he also breached 3RR rule and engaged in edit war - . Cheers, --] (]) 12:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC) :If I'll be blocked, then Jack should also be, because he also breached 3RR rule and engaged in edit war - . Cheers, --] (]) 12:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::Phew, the animosity here is thick enough to cut with a 48-hour block.
::Looks like you guys could use some mediation, anyway. Sundostund, you were literally just blocked for edit-warring here - why start again? Why not focus on discussing this on the talk page instead of edit war? Yes, Jack did his part and he shouldn't have, but he didn't just come off a block.
::Anyway, ''consider this a final warning''. Take it to the talk page, lose the spite, and be ]. ] 15:34, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

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::I think someone also should look this - Jack admits here that he's a sockpuppet master - . --] (]) 12:34, 17 February 2011 (UTC) ::I think someone also should look this - Jack admits here that he's a sockpuppet master - . --] (]) 12:34, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

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    User:Kurdo777 reported by User:Flatterworld

    Page: Template:2010–2011 Arab world protests (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Kurdo777 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Continued disruptive editing, ignoring consensus and discussions. Both the Template and the article it accompanies are current and discussions are ongoing as to what the title (Arab world, Middle East, global, whatever) should be. The consensus is to include Iran regardless, under 'Related' until and unless the title is changed. Kurdo insists on deleting it, leaving our readers unable to navigate directly to Iran from each article which currently uses the Template. (Added: Kurdo777 has additionally and repeatedly deleted my notice to the other Template editors of this warning, blocking that 'navigation path' as well.Flatterworld (talk) 23:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC))

    Comment by Kurdo777: First of all, there has been no violation of 3RR by me, and contrary to Flatterworld's claims, there exists no consensus on this dispute, as at least three editors have opposed the inclusion of Iran on a template that deals with Arab world, since Iran is not an Arab country. Furthermore, Flatterworld has been making personal attacks against me , and when I warned him about it, he removed the warnings from his talk page. He has also been in violation of WP:Talk, and keeps making comments about me on the article talk page, instead of focusing on the content. Kurdo777 (talk) 22:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

    Comment I've been involved in all of this, and I considered reporting Kurdo777 here for disruptive editing, but we have since been able to discuss the issues in constructive ways without edit warring. It's my hope that we can continue to do so until we reach a solution that we can all live with. --Muboshgu (talk) 14:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:Eusebeus reported by User:Lost Josephine Minor (Result:no violation)

    Page: Alex Gregory (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Eusebeus (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:
    • 4th revert:


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments:

    I am new to writing on Misplaced Pages, so if my formatting is incorrect, please bear with me. The editor gives no reason for his reverts, has been unwilling to negotiate. On my first article I have very carefully sourced all of the information that I included. However, very relevant information has been continually deleted by a couple of editors. Initial concerns by those editors have been addressed, yet Eusebeus continues to revert. I have attempted to engage Eusebeus in constructive dialog, have attempted to adjust the wording of the article to make it more comfortable to others, however, he continues to make reverts to remove information which is quite clearly correct. Lost Josephine Minor (talk) 05:47, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

    • One editor versus a number of other editors (myself included) who are asking for WP:RS to substantiate claims. I can ask other editors to revert to avoid 3RR, but this is, in essence, a source dispute and the page should be protected against LJM's edit-warring in the face of multiple editor requests for substantiation. Eusebeus (talk) 08:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
    • As Eusebus points out, this is a content dispute; Lost Josephine Minor attempts to introduce material which is not supported by reliable sources. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
    • No 3RR violation, as these are spread out over a few days, but it is clearly edit warring between Eusebeus and Lost Josephine Minor, and any more reverts from either is likely to result in blocks. Also, Eusebeus needs to stop using rollback on non-vandal edits or his rollback permissions are likely to be revoked. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 13:29, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
    • This shouldn't be characterized as edit warring between two editors. As Michael Bednarek has pointed out the SPA Lost Josephine Minor has repeatedly introduced questionable content. About six or seven different editors have been involved in one way or another (see Talk:Alex_Gregory). --Kleinzach 09:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
      • Regardless, Eusebeus had been doing way too much reverting for me to ignore in my closing comments. I mention those two not an exclusive list but as the ones doing enough reverting to be worth mentioning. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 10:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
        • Heimstern Läufer: Leaving aside the details of this particular case, the implication of your view is that any repeated reversions of content, even spaced out over time, are more egregious than including poor content in the encyclopedia. . . . I've recently been involved in a more significant problem elsewhere. Another editor (not involved here) reverted my contributions to two articles. (This involved the other editor removing/changing references to the main reliable source.) I completely abandoned my work on those articles (and on related articles). Judging by the approach here, I must have done the right thing. Social harmony is the most important thing, right? If I had insisted on article accuracy and slowly and judiciously reverted bad content, I would have been reported here and got the usual 'you are equally to blame' treatment, just like Eusebeus. Hmm. --Kleinzach 00:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
          • Please stop twisting my words. I did not say they were equally to blame. I said both were edit warring. I'm quite willing to say that the one doing the most reverting, which is to say Lost Josephine Minor, is more to blame, but that doesn't mean the other side was guiltless. As for content issues, I am required to maintain neutrality or else I can't be considered an uninvolved editor, so I won't comment on them. Yes, absolutely, content is most important, social harmony is a distant second. If you don't think I know that, ask Future Perfect at Sunrise or Horologium how I railed at ArbCom over their misprioritizing social harmony in ARBMAC2. And I haven't blocked anyone, just given a warning that future activity is likely to result in blocks, though I don't really plan to dish any out. Taking away rollback permissions, that I might do. There's really no excuse for using rollback on non-vandal edits. That's all. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 06:12, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:208.233.32.44, User:65.175.251.7 and User:Gabrielkat reported by User:McDoobAU93 (Result: protected 10 days)

    Page: Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: 208.233.32.44 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), 65.175.251.7 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), Gabrielkat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: Last known good version, before this started ...

    208.233.32.44 reverting ...

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:

    65.175.251.7 reverting ...

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:

    Gabrielkat reverting ...

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: for 208.233.32.44, for 65.175.251.7 and for Gabrielkat

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Starts here, but then there's this and then this and this and finally this. Not much talking apparently.

    Comments:

    Most likely a battle between two users, with one apparently using two IPs (although I don't believe this is intended as sockpuppetry and may simply be the same person editing from two different locations). Edits appear to be focused on a single date, a release date for a particular movie. These two/three editors have been just about the only source of activity in this article recently, and it's getting ugly. I haven't made any changes simply because I'm not sure who's right and who's wrong, but disruptive is disruptive, and this has got to stop. I'm going to request page protection as well until this gets resolved. --McDoobAU93 18:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:WikiManOne reported by User:Haymaker (Result: 48 hours)

    Page: Planned Parenthood (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: WikiManOne (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert: straight revert at 21:12
    • 2nd revert: straight revert at 10:32
    • 3rd revert: straight revert at 11:37
    • 4th revert: at 13:25 is a revert of this edit 25 minutes earlier
    • 5th revert: straight revert at 14:30
    • 6th revert: was a straight revert at 19:09, a self revert was made at 19:11 but then WMO went ahead a made the exact same edit with a few of the words rearranged 45 minutes later at 19:57


    WMO has been warned about edit warring many times by many editors over the last few days , , , ,

    These edits have been talked over on the talk page

    Comments:
    This is 6 reverts inside 23 hours. It is also worth noting that the user was reported for edit warring on the page Lila Rose 4 days ago. He was let off with a stern warning after declaring his retirement from that page. He has since resumed making reverts on that page.

    This is amusing coming from someone who has been blocked for edit warring four times previously, complaining that I undid their edits. The first revert was a revert of actions disruptive to wikipedia, as was the fifth revert. As the notice on the talk page states "Before making any potentially controversial changes to the article, please carefully read the discussion-page dialogue to see if the issue has been raised before." Those were edits made in an area that had substantial discussion over the course of weeks. I was justified in reverting their edits that went against clearly established consensus and therefore disruptive.
    The fourth "revert" is not a revert at all, it reworded the whole thing and was not reverting to a previous version.
    The sixth revert was a revert that I promtply self reverted, even though not counting reverting disruptive actions, that would have been my third revert against 3RR. As such, even if it wasn't self-reverted, it would have not been a fourth revert. Furthermore, it was not the same edit, I went back to the source and addressed the concerns made.
    Is this the fourth or fifth report you've brought against me Haymaker? Last I checked, only one was successful and that one resulted in a block for you as well. WM Please leave me a wb if you reply 20:39, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
    You have been made aware of the dispute resolution process, you have been warned ad nauseum not to edit war even if you think you are right. And since you asked, I have reported you twice in the past for disruptive editing. - Haymaker (talk) 21:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

    Here's a thought: how about both of you stop it? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 20:42, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

    I also want to add, the two actual reverts I did not discuss above, were reverting unilateral changes to the lead which were, in fact, violations of this notice on the talk page: "Please discuss substantial changes here before making them, supplying full citations when adding information, and consider tagging or removing uncited/unciteable information." The changes were not discussed before being made and a different editor previously removed the editor's attempt to add this information to the lead. Instead of beginning a discussion on its inclusion on the talk page, the user chose to repeatedly insert it, leaving those involved with little choice but to revert it. I think my actions were all completely justifiable, and I'm tired of Haymaker making frivolous reports. WM Please leave me a wb if you reply 20:47, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
    • - Never mind both of them stop it - the reported user is continuing along the same lines and if he is again warring he has had plenty of warning and a three day restriction is required, and of course if the reporter is also in violation then the same goes for them - there is a lot of disruption presently in this topic area and violations require edit restrictions of some kind - a topic ban or a WP:1RR one revert restriction will also help reduce the disruption.. Off2riorob (talk) 20:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Blocked – for a period of 48 hours - the 3RR does have exclusions, they are listed here. There was no vandalism here, just a difference in opinion (any interested parties can read up on the definition at WP:VAND#NOT, and the essay I personally wrote: WP:HITLER). Haymaker's changes were generally not reversions, they were changes to the existing text. Neither were WikiManOne's changes in the spirit of WP:BRD, as Haymaker's changes were in fact an alteration of the text as WikiManOne wrote it (not a reversion). This does not excuse edit warring on anyone's behalf, and WikiManOne is still welcome to edit this article in the future as a valuable editor. Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:29, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:Niallo301 reported by User:Erikeltic (Result: blocked 1 month)

    Page: Slieve League (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    Page: Croaghaun (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Niallo301 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    • There have been enough 3RRs on this problem. I am reporting it as an edit war.


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Yes. The editor's talk page is full of warnings, blocks, etc. over his continued edit warring and refusal to provide sources.

    Comments: This editor has repeatedly vandalised Slieve League with non-cited materials, Youtube links, and misc other statements. The editor has now moved over into Croaghaun and is doing the same thing there. Already the editor has been blocked for this behavior and yet he/she continues to do it. I have encouraged the editor to learn Misplaced Pages rules and I have even offered to help put some reliable sources together for the article. Thus far the editor has ignored all attempts at communication and yet he continues to edit the article indiscriminately.

    User:McGlockin reported by User:Tentontunic (Result: 24 hr block)

    Page: Disinformation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: McGlockin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:
    • 4th revert:
    • 5th revert:

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments:Although the user has only three reverts he has been reinserting uncited content, and making personal attacks in calling me a vandal. He is now on four reverts.

    He has also made personal attacks on my talk page In again calling me a vandal and accusations of an agenda. Tentontunic (talk) 21:41, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

    He has attacked me as well. User seems to have a battleground mentality, a little mentoring might help rather than a block. Soxwon (talk) 21:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
    Blocked Blocked 24 hours for edit-warring and characterizing disagreement as vandalism. Acroterion (talk) 22:15, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:Moni3 reported by User:Zarcadia (Result: Protected)

    Please continue this discussion at Talk:Everglades National Park#Linking "U.S. state" or another appropriate venue. - 2/0 (cont.) 04:11, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

    I've had a perfectly valid edit reverted 3 times as well as 2 messages sent to my talk page. I contest my edits were valid and had no valid reasons for reversion.

    The history can be seen here ] Zarcadia (talk) 23:18, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

    Well, hey. I was going to report Zarcadia for doing something very stupid in an FA. I was going to format my report properly too, but let's see where this goes. --Moni3 (talk) 23:39, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

    And how long before I change it back under protection if Zarcadia refuses to engage? Shall I just use my own judgment on that? --Moni3 (talk) 00:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Burn the witch Sorry, I mean ban the bitch. There's far too much of this looking after articles you've written going on here. All articles should only be edited by those who are completely ignorant of the subject but have an opinion nevertheless. Malleus Fatuorum 00:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    Moni3 - Why is it so hard for you to understand that U. S. State is linked to on numerous articles, why are you so threatened by this encyclopaedic link?! Why do you insist that I don’t engage? Can you give me a reason why we shouldn’t link to U. S. State? Zarcadia (talk) 00:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    I'm threatened by your virility, not the link. There, it just looks very stupid and is completely unnecessary. The number of articles a particular article is linked to--this makes no sense. The only factor in why an article is linked in another article is how relevant that topic is. There is nothing in U.S. state that has any bearing on Everglades National Park and vice versa. We don't link simply because an article is there. --Moni3 (talk) 00:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    All this fuss about a wikilink. Lucky for you Vsmith protected the article, locking the entire world out from editing it. I would have blocked you both for edit warring, and let others edit. By the way, see WP:OVERLINKING, specifically the part that says "Avoid linking the names of major geographic features and locations...." ~Amatulić (talk) 00:14, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    ... and you would have been the typical heavy-handed administrator, with no idea at all about how to deal with even the slightest of content disputes, such as this one. Malleus Fatuorum 00:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    I hardly think a block of a couple hours is heavy handed during an edit war. As a frequent contributor of Misplaced Pages:Third opinion, I'm disappointed that these two didn't take the dispute there rather than here. Simply making them aware of WP:OVERLINKING would have solved it. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    Then you're wrong. Are you seriously suggesting that Moni3 was unaware of WP:OVERLINKING? (Thanks for the link BTW, I'd never seen that before myself</sarcasm>). Seriously? The admin way is to find reasons to blame both sides, not to address the problem, which is that one side was unaware of the guidelines. Malleus Fatuorum 00:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    Malleus, your perception of "the admin way" is wrong, sorry. At least, that isn't my way. Protecting an article from disruption can be accomplished several ways: mediation (like 3rd opinion), article protection, blocking. The editors here elected to go down a path that led to protection, that's all. Moni3 seemed aware of WP:OVERLINKING, Zarcadia did not. It's that simple. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:44, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    I can only assume that you haven't been keeping up, or perhaps you need to go and lie down. Malleus Fatuorum 01:15, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    Amatulic, you are wrong. The fuss is not about a wikilink. It's about a featured article. If you do not understand what it is about, write one. Write quite a few, then see how many times you are here. One of these days I'm going to get blocked for stewarding an article I wrote. So be it and amen. --Moni3 (talk) 00:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    Edit to add: Zarcadia was made aware of Overlinking by another editor on Zarcadia's talk page. He continued to revert. You didn't check that talk page, did you? --Moni3 (talk) 00:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    Would you please link to that? You'll see I will happily concede if an editor puts forward a good case. You did not. Zarcadia (talk) 01:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    Here. Malleus Fatuorum 01:56, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    OK, the fuss is about a wikilink in a featured article. I knew that already. You should know better than to engage in an edit war when other dispute resolutions methods are available. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:44, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    You should know that any FA editor worth his salt will gladly take a block to protect the integrity of content in an article s/he spent weeks or months writing and two more years maintaining. You may think a wikilink is a small thing. If you do, write an FA and see how small it is. --Moni3 (talk) 00:48, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    I think I hold the record there. I was blocked twice within 24 hours for 3RR one TFA day, but I wouldn't do anything differently given my time again. Malleus Fatuorum 01:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    (ec) Moni, I am aware of FA criteria, sorry to belittle the issue over a Wikilink. I am in agreement with your position. ~Amatulić (talk) 01:14, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) What does that link add to our knowledge of the Everglades National Park? How many people in the world do you think are unaware that the United States is made up of a federation of states in any event? Malleus Fatuorum
    AN3 is not a discussion forum. I suggest taking the disputed article content to the article talk page ... which is what protecting it is designed to do. --B (talk) 00:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    So, by your reasoning, we shouldn't link U.S. States in the thousand or so articles that do so already? Good luck with that. "How many people in the world do you think are unaware that the United States is made up of a federation of states in any event?" Possibly the 90% of English speakers who aren't American, Please remember this is English Misplaced Pages, not American Misplaced Pages, thank you. Zarcadia (talk) 00:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    I don't know whose reasoning you're referring to, but U.S. state should be linked in each U.S. state and all related articles to the formation, government, acquisition, and history of each U.S. state, as well as, I think, the U.S. Constitution. I keep pointing out that Everglades National Park is an FA, where the standards for everything: citations, writing, style, grammar, images, and linking, are very, very high. Lower class articles on Naruto or Gone With the Wind, if not FA, may link to U.S. state or other topics that have nothing to do with the subject. They're not FAs. --Moni3 (talk) 00:39, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) Silly me, for thinking that the name "United States" meant a federation of states. So what does it mean then? Malleus Fatuorum 00:41, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    I've started a discussion at Talk:Everglades National Park#Linking "U.S. state". Dabomb87 (talk) 00:44, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Aside: It really does treat our readers as fools to think it's likely they'd want to click on a list of "U.S. states" while reading that article. The presumption that wikilinking should be used to facilitate aimless wandering through the site went down the sink a few years ago. Please let's focus on selecting the valuable links for our readers. Tony (talk) 03:49, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:BillyGambela reported by Dougweller (talk) (Result: 24 h)

    Page: African American (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) User being reported: BillyGambela (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Time reported: 06:11, 16 February 2011 (UTC) Diffs are listed from oldest to newest, dates are in UTC

    1. 05:16, 16 February 2011 (edit summary: "")
    2. 05:32, 16 February 2011 (edit summary: "")
    3. 05:44, 16 February 2011 (edit summary: "")
    4. 06:02, 16 February 2011 (edit summary: "")

    User:Ramanujamuni and User:Hari7478 reported by User:Asav (Result: Protected)

    Page: Iyengar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    Users being reported:

    Ramanujamuni (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and
    Hari7478 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:
    • 4th revert:


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: User talk:Ramanujamuni#Edit war and User talk:Hari7478#Edit war


    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Iyengar#OTRS notice: Edit war

    Comments:

    This is a somewhat unusual situation, as I have absolutely no knowledge of the subject at hand, i.e. Iyengar, nor have I participated in any discussion, except the Edit war warning on the talk page.Also, I'm literally not sure whether this should have been filed on the Geopolitical ethnic and religious conflicts page.

    As an OTRS volunteers, I responded to a vandalism complaint regarding the article, and it turned out there had already been an edit war going on for some time. As I am eminently unqualified to make any judgments on the merits of the cases made by the contestants, I simply posted a message on the talk page (op. cit.), and I reverted an anonymous edit that did nothing more than delete a source. My second edit reverted a polemic statement inserted into the article proper. The latter edit was made after a message left on my talk page by User:Hari7478: User talk:Asav#Please help me out - In the Iyengar wiki page. Shortly thereafter, User:Ramanujamuni left an unsigned reply on the same page.

    As far as I can see, the edit war has been going on for quite a while, first between an anonymous user and User:Hari7478, then mainly between User:Hari7478 and User:Ramanujamuni (which seems to be a one trick pony, as it has only been used to edit the Iyengar article) and to a certain extent User:Padmavasantha. It seems User:Hari7478, too, is mainly concerned with Hindu casts.

    Furthermore, it is my understanding that some of the dispute concerns (a) certain term(s) that one part finds derogatory and that there seems to be a fair amount of ethnic discord involved, e.g. one of the edit comments reads "(...) provide factual data which has been suppressed and provided with the racial bias".

    I would add the the majority of disagreements are completely incomprehensible to me, such as "factual data which proves the Thenkalai is the more prevelant sampradhya" and "Padmavasantha-unneccessarily swapping contents by moving thenkalai section ahead of vadakalai."

    What does seem clear to me, is that all users blatantly disregard the principle Verifiability, not truth by removing each others' sources. For the record, I have obviously never claimed to have any administrative privileges on Misplaced Pages, nor given the impression that my two edits were made in any other capacity than an ordinary editor.

    In short, I believe it's better that someone with content dispute/edit war experience handles this, as it certainly doesn't belong on my talk page. This is way outside the OTRS domain, and I have no practical suggestions or requests as how to resolve the matter. Asav (talk) 10:33, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


    Hello. This is me user:hari7478 to justify my point.
    My user:id has also been mentioned in this report by user:Asav. I would like to justify my doing, by providing valid points.
    1. .This was the original version of the Iyengar article before user:Padmavasantha and user:Ramanujamuni started making changes. The two users "user:Padmavasantha and user:Ramanujamuni" had been giving their own statements and POVs without any web source, since then. The dispute has arised mainly in this section of the page This was the first vandalising change made by user:Padmavasantha - Diff
    2. Since then i had to revert their edits repeatedly. But all i did was only reverting vandalising edits. Here are my edits , , , , . All these edits of mine had only re-established the original article content, as the article was, before the edit warring started. All the references I had provided, are from authentic "online books authored by renowned authors".
    3. These are the vandalising edits of user:Ramanujamuni - , , , , . In all these edits user:Ramanujamuni had repeatedly deleted "reference source materials" and tried to establish his own statements and POVs, without providing valid references.
    4. user:Ramanujamuni had also been falsely accusing the integrity of the reference materials. user:ramanujamuni had accused me of misinterpreting references. But I never misinterpreted any reference content. All i did was only copy pasting of reference contents into wikipedia, which is obvious from all my edits, that i've provided in Point no.2.
    5. I had adequately discussed justifying my point in user talk:Ramanujamuni talk page. But the user paid no heed to it. user:ramanujamuni rejects the authority of "reference sources" i had provided, and had been giving his own POVs repeatedly in the Iyengar page, by "removing references". I had also provided additional references for cross-checking.
    6. user:ramanujamuni had also ,modified and tampered with my warning message on his talk page. See here .
    7. I conclude saying that, all i did was re-establishment of the original article content before the edit war had started. Spare me, and punish the guilty please. Hari7478 (talk) 12:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:Muboshgu reported by User:Wayiran (Result: normal discussion and editing have resumed)

    Page: 2011 Iranian protests (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Muboshgu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:
    • 4th revert:


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments: He keeps re-introducing "2011 Arab Protests" into 2011 Iranian Protests, eventhough he's been told numerous times that Iran is not an Arab country. He made 4 reverts in less than 24 hours.


    Resolved – Discussion at the usertalk pages and the template talk seem to be proceeding apace, so I see no need to block anyone or lock a developing article here. Please reopen this or file a new report if the edit warring resumes. - 2/0 (cont.) 21:17, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:Jflaiz reported by User:Muhandes (Result: Blocked 72h)

    Page: Tanglewood National Golf Club (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Jflaiz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:
    • 4th revert:
    • At this point the user was reported and blocked, but as soon as the block was removed
    • 5th revert:
    • 6th revert, as IP:
    • 7th revert:
    • 8th revert:
    • 9th revert, as IP:


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    • Second warning after returning from block

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments:
    As shown above, a repeat offense. Muhandes (talk) 22:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

    Blocked – for a period of 72 hours ~Amatulić (talk) 01:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:Blake1960 reported by User:Ebikeguy (Result: Blocked 72h)

    Page: Miles per gallon gasoline equivalent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Blake1960 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:
    • 4th revert:
    • 5th revert:


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Diff of an editor's very polite attempt to resolve dispute on Blake1960's talk page (Blake1960's 5th revert undid this editor's change):

    Comments:
    This is Blake1960's second 3RR violation in the last two weeks. Multiple editors have asked him, politely and repeatedly, to stop posting OR and to limit his edits to content related to the article, but he has summarily refused to do so, frequently resorting to personal attacks in the process.


    I dispute the above accusations most strongly. Complainant has reverted my contributions multiple times without any discussion or talk to resolve the issue. The reasons given for reverting my laborious contributions are not acceptable, the complainants' mere POV. Complainant along with two others editing the article seem to be ardent in prohibiting the 100% pertinent, well-sourced, with references, cited information I am trying to contribute. My source is the United States Department of Energy. The rest is simple math and citings from elsewhere in the article that were not authored by me.
    Discussion has not included personal insult or attack of any kind that I can see. Ebike has not been helpful in resolving the issue. I request he be blocked from editing the page.
    See our discussion at...
    Talk:Miles_per_gallon_gasoline_equivalent#Controversy_about_EPA_form_of_MPGe_-_A_Cover-Up_in_Progress
    Thank you.
    Blake1960 (talk) 01:25, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Blocked – for a period of 72 hours. While the editor has engaged on the talk page, continued 3RR violation after a prior block suggests that Blake1960 hasn't gotten the message that revert-warring is unacceptable, even if you may be in the right. ~Amatulić (talk) 02:09, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:Imacericg reported by guanxi (Result: )

    Page: Winged football helmet (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Imacericg (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) User being reported: 74.235.160.155 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) User being reported: 174.96.172.62 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    I'm pretty sure these are the same person. The comments in the reverts (see below) sound like they are coming from the same editor.


    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:
    • 4th revert:


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: - see comments

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: - see comments

    Comments:

    A simple case: Imacericg has a history of inappropriately linking to spartanjerseys.com despite warnings (see their talk page and contributions). In this case, Imacericg is citing it and I'm pretty sure it's not an RS. I've asked them three times to use RS or remove the material, including providing a link to WP:RS (, , ), but they don't seem very interested in learning the policy.

    They also claim that spartanjerseys.com is acceptable because it cites other sources; I suggested Imacericg cite the sources directly if they are RS (but they aren't; spartanjersey's source for this material is: Constantine S. Demos and Steven S. Demos, M.D., The Tradition Continues: Spartan Football (Muskegon: Michigan State University Football Players Association, 2008)). I'm also accused of vandalism for removing the material, and of being a University of Michigan fan (I can't find the WP policy on that).

    I haven't discussed it their talk page or on the article's talk page, but I'm really hoping to avoid wasting more time on it. They've ignored previous attempts by others to inform them and there is not more to discuss than what's in the edit comments; if they want to follow WP:RS, then they would have stopped using spartanjerseys.com by now. I can do it if you think it will help somehow ...

    Unless someone else edits the page in the interim, I believe the proper version is:

    guanxi (talk) 23:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


    User:Muboshgu reported by User:Wayiran (Result: Resolved)

    Page: 2011 Iranian protests (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Muboshgu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:
    • 4th revert:
    • 5th revert:


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments: I reported him earllier, and I was told if he resumes edit-warring, I should report this. He has done just that, he is reverting again. 4 reverts in 23 hours, and now 5 reverts in just 29 hours. --Wayiran (talk) 23:15, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

    Alright, time to step in. Let's try some mediation. m.o.p 05:02, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Addition: First contact with Muboshgu, notice on article's talk page. m.o.p 05:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    As I said on my talk page, I was not told that Wayiran placed a notice on this page previously, and Wayiran did not tell me of this second notice. The 3RR warning Wayiran refers to was placed by a different user (User:Kurdo777) in regards to a different page (the template related to the article) and I may be wrong but I believe it was applied inappropriately. We've since been talking it out on talk pages. I want to settle this on the talk pages of the relevant articles like everyone else, not with reporting users. I lost track of the number of edits I made on that page when things got heated, but they have cooled and I will stay cool. I apologize for my part in this. --Muboshgu (talk) 12:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    I'll follow up on Wayiran in terms of notifying those who he reports of his actions. As for this, please don't edit war further. You broke the 3-revert-rule, and any further reversions will bring about a block. I appreciate that you'd like to use the talk page; just please don't edit war. I'll keep floating around if anybody needs me. Cheers, m.o.p 14:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:Tentontunic reported by User:Tentontunic (Result: not blocked... yet)

    Page: Nir Rosen (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Tentontunic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:
    • 4th revert:


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments:I am now on four reverts on the aforementioned article. I am claiming a BLP exemption. This report is to save others the bother of filing one.

    User:70.105.119.190 reported by User:Malik Shabazz (Result: Two articles semiprotected)

    Pages: Atlantic slave trade (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and History of slavery (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: 70.105.119.190 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Atlantic slave trade Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:

    History of slavery Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: User talk:70.105.119.190

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Atlantic slave trade#Jews in the netherlands

    Comments:
    No 3RR violation, but clearly edit-warring. Possibly the same editor as 70.105.113.88 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who made the same edits to these articles earlier in the day. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 01:39, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    • Result: Both articles semiprotected one month. An IP-hopping editor is warring about the role of Jews in the slave trade. Protection may be lifted if consensus is reached on the talk page. The IP may be rangeblocked if he won't follow policy. EdJohnston (talk) 15:16, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:Verygentle1969 reported by User:Tide rolls (Result: )

    Page: Chicago (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Verygentle1969 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:


    Compare to edits by 204.140.189.253 (talk · contribs): , , and which took place after VeryGentle1969's edits of , and .


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: talk page discussion in which the reported editor did not participate despite being informed of the disussion.

    Comments:


    This editor has never contributed to any discussion on the article talk page nor responded to any message on their user talk. Additionally, they were not moved to comment after being informed of this discussion. I believe they will continue to disrupt this article against consensus and without discussion. Tiderolls 03:46, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    I also filled SPI yesterday. See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Verygentle1969. Elockid 03:51, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    User:Sundostund reported by User:Jack Merridew (Currently: Mediating)

    Page: List of Presidents of Egypt (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Sundostund (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: oldid

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: warning

    Comments:

    Sundostund is just a day off a prior block for edit waring with another user over this same article. He also flipped-out Will's 'Acting President' change. Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:02, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    If I'll be blocked, then Jack should also be, because he also breached 3RR rule and engaged in edit war - . Cheers, --Sundostund (talk) 12:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Phew, the animosity here is thick enough to cut with a 48-hour block.
    Looks like you guys could use some mediation, anyway. Sundostund, you were literally just blocked for edit-warring here - why start again? Why not focus on discussing this on the talk page instead of edit war? Yes, Jack did his part and he shouldn't have, but he didn't just come off a block.
    Anyway, consider this a final warning. Take it to the talk page, lose the spite, and be civil. m.o.p 15:34, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    I think someone also should look this - Jack admits here that he's a sockpuppet master - . --Sundostund (talk) 12:34, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    It's pretty widely known. Jack Merridew 12:36, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Then you should be blocked indefinitely, like any other sockpuppet master who is caught. --Sundostund (talk) 12:39, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    I was. Jack Merridew 12:40, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Jack, you don't understand. If you are a sockpuppet master, your present user account (User:Jack Merridew), and all other user accounts you started as a sockpuppet master must be wiped out and you must be blocked from editing indefinitely. That's what I'm saying. Understand now? If you was blocked indefinitely earlier, and you opened a new user account after that, it's also against rules. --Sundostund (talk) 12:54, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Ya, I understand. You're confused. What were you thinking when you went right back to reverting that article after your last block? Rolling right over attempts at talk? Goodbye, Jack Merridew 13:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    No, you're the one who is confused, because you forget that beign a sockpuppet master is the greatest breach of WP rules, far more great than breaching 3RR. You should be prepared to get blocked indefinitely for what you done with your sockpuppets. Goodbye, --Sundostund (talk) 13:14, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Do I seem concerned? Jack Merridew 13:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    If I'm in your place, I should be. Every sockpuppet master must be blocked indefinitely. So, these are your last hours on Misplaced Pages, at least under the name "Jack Merridew". --Sundostund (talk) 13:27, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Well, I'm not concerned, and you should see Jack Merridew ); Cheers, Jack Merridew 13:35, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Concerned or not, prepare yourself to get blocked indefinitely for being a sock master :)) Cheers, --Sundostund (talk) 13:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    This seems to be taking up an inordinate amount of bytes, entertaining though it is. Sundostund, the situation is this. Jack was indefinitely blocked for being a sockpuppet, then later he was unblocked per Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Jack Merridew ban review motion. This isn't relevant to this 3RR report unless he breaks one of the conditions listed there and still in force. (And probably not directly relevant here, even then.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 13:41, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

    I left him links to that stuff on his talk page ;) Jack Merridew 13:44, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Demiurge1000, If you think it's OK to have on WP someone who brags around that he's a sockpuppet master, maybe someone else shouldn't think that. It's obvious that decision to lift block on Jack Merridew was bad. Instead to be sorry because of his past behaviour, he brags with that. --Sundostund (talk) 13:50, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    all very old stuff, and you brought up my block log ;) Jack Merridew 13:54, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Well, it's not my fault because you had 8 blocks so far! It's just an evidence of your continuing unacceptable behavior on WP. --Sundostund (talk) 13:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    try reading it more carefully. Jack Merridew 14:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    Administrators should look better into both your behavior and your block log, not me. --Sundostund (talk) 14:05, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    you should AGF that they have ;) Jack Merridew 14:12, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    No, you're the one who started with edit war over some stupid graphic things on that page. Again, if I'm blocked, you'll also be. --Sundostund (talk) 14:29, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    moving archive notice to bottom. can you both stop the slap fight here? or if you'd like I can block you both for disruptive editing regardless of the 3rr. Syrthiss (talk) 14:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

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