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Archive 1

User talk:Ssilvers/Archive DYKs and stars‎

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Misc. Notes from 2006 and 2007

I think it looks great. Keep up the good work. —Khoikhoi 01:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for being helpful. My English music books used Mazeppa, Maria, Andrei, Kochubey (Kochubey is not a Russian, but Tatar name). (meladina 16:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC))

Thanks for slicing up some of my more grotesquely long sentences in Opera the other day. I'm on a bit of drive to get the article up to GA standard, so thanks for all the help. Cheers, Moreschi 16:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Kashchey the Immortal (opera) - Thanks for the help; I've just finished off the copy-editing. Cheers, Moreschi 19:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the kind words.... I'm very tempted to help out at Opera. In fact my next plan was to rework the French Opera section, which has been chopped off that article. Cheers. --Folantin 08:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for all the info you added to The Magic Show! - Brian Kendig 13:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Boyd Neel - Thank you for your kind words (and the corroborative detail).... It's a pleasure doing business with you, sir! - Tim riley 21:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Camelot (musical) thanks you! Wow, Ssilvers, you are awesome! Thanks so much for such a quick fix on the Camelot article! I will add to it as I can. :) Thanks! Estreya 18:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Tom Eyen - Thank you for cleaning up my mess! I'm speechless - it's so well done! --Eric Eyen 02:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your kind note and for your careful reviews and help at Encyclopædia Britannica; I think it's an article we all can be proud of.... I'm grateful that you corrected that comma error that had been peppering my writing for ages. Looking forward to working with you again in Misplaced Pages, Willow 10:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice welcoming note! I was going to see an amateur production of Princess Ida at MIT last night, so I wanted to learn a little about it. The article was very helpful! I love G&S, but I probably will just do little typo edits here and there as I find them. Thanks again! Purkowitz 14:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your effort and added info with Malfitano. She is a great singer and it was sad to notice that the existing writings about her were too brief. It would be great if we could get some photos of her. I will write to her agent, hopefully they could provide us with photos to be published (with written permission, of course). - Jay 02:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Nice work on the Buddy - The Buddy Holly Story yesterday/today. Concerning the expanded synopisis version that was severely edited a while back - IT WAS MUCH BETTER. Sorry it kept getting cut. It should simply have been re-written to avoid verbatim website quotes. It should not of been deleted, though. I will support you in defending against any attempts to ruin this article again. Smatprt 14:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! :-)Nrswanson 07:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Your work on Michael Mayer (director) - WOW. Thank you! I knew that once people realized this major theatrical figure had no article at all, it'd get fixed quickly, but the early version was so disorganized, and it's lovely to see what you've done with it overnight.

Diana Fortuna Photo - Thanks for cleaning up the summary :) DraxusD 05:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help cleaning up my edits on Parade - I honestly thought I was alone on this one! Docta247 13:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome :) I'm Chris Angelico, Savoynetter and fairly active but with no particular qualifications or special skills in G&S. A newbie in editing, which is probably obvious to all, unfortunately. -- Rosuav (talk • contribs) 05:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Piano Bar

Hi, Ssilvers, I am Ron Kert from Tampa, FL (wikipedia user-name "ronkert"). Thank You for your additions to the "Piano Bar" article that I submitted. I also am an amateur singer, and a "piano bar junkie". Although I enjoyed "La Boheme" and love most types of music, I sing songs from these genres: "Standards" from the 1920's to 1950's, 50's and 60's Rock'n'Roll, some 70's and 80's light Rock and Rock ballads, Blues, a couple of show tunes, a few Country tunes. I'm currently on one of my bi-annual out-of-state "piano bar" vacations in the DC / northern Virginia area.

Savoyards

Good work. Several of these performers are familiar to me because of the film Topsy Turvy, wihch I've seen at least half a dozen times. They needed to be included in Misplaced Pages. Charivari 02:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! You took this a lot farther than I ever imagined it would go. Marc Shepherd 19:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Golden Legend

Saw your additions and copy edits. Thanks. I had considered adding specific information about the Hyperion release (it is the first full length recording), but wasn't sure it was appropriate. I'll probably be doing some similar work on other compositions by Sullivan. Shsilver 19:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Hot Mikado

Thanks for your attention to this article - it helps to have another perspective, particularly one from the musicals / G&S point of view, and not the "HEY MY HIGH SCHOOL DID THAT!" point of view.... Thanks again. QBKooky 18:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Mountebanks; Major article template, etc.

Thanks for the Song list! Added in character names whilst I was at it. Also, I've done a tweak to Template:Gilbert and Sullivan - That look good to you? Vanished user 23:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Malcolm Sargent

It turned out very well. I didn't know about that 1936 interview. Did you ever hear the old joke about Sargent? Supposedly he gets into a cab. The driver says, "Where to?" Sargent says, "It doesn't matter; they want me everywhere." Marc Shepherd 13:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Early British Musicals

Thanks for the messages. I had only the briefest look after your first, but it all looked like great stuff.... --GuillaumeTell 07:17, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Savoy opera (and curtain raisers)

Nice work! 10:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

G&S

Thanks very much - I'm actually planning on writing up a few articles about some of the lesser Savoyards, as well as a couple of early G&S creators that really ought to be here (Frank Thornton, Fred Sullivan, and Selina Dolaro spring to mind). --AlbertHerring 17:21, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

W. S. Gilbert

Congrats on getting the article featured. Your hard work was impressive. Best, Moreschi 12:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

First barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Awarded to Ssilvers for his work on actors and actresses, minor operas, and everything else related to Gilbert and Sullivan and Victorian Theatre. You have single-handedly filled in many huge gaps in Misplaced Pages coverage. Vanished user 13:13, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

... and that goes from me too, his recent work on filling in the gaps and eliminating stubs in London theatre is only matched by his patience with my lack of knowledge and his ability to collaborate. Kbthompson 18:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Theatre Articles: Notes of thanks

Gallery of Illustration - Many thanks for your modest but spot-on improvements to the initial entry on the Royal Gallery of Illustration!! Rapotter 03:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Globe, Royalty and St James's Theatres - Gracious me! How much you have improved the presentation. As suggested, I have run up a piece on the Globe, which would benefit from the Ssilvers treatment, had you but world enough and time. Tim riley 10:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

This corner of the Misplaced Pages site owes such a lot to you. - Tim riley 23:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your work on this article. The images make a big difference as well as noting the stars and the plays. David Lauder 08:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for making the Haymarket Theatre piece look good. ...Tim Riley 10:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't thank you for the addn info on the Empire Theatre. I added a testimonial to your barnstar! But I don't know how these things get decided on, so left it as barnstar + bar. The London theatres have been a joy... Kbthompson 18:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

St Georges Theatre - Belated thanks for that, it almost looks like an article now. I took the liberty of adding a gee-gaw to your front page (a case of I saw this and thought of you, I have to wait another month!). I saw the recent comments at G&S, tough crowd. I think that's a bit harsh for GA, but something that definitely needs fixing for FA. Kbthompson 15:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Court Theatre - Congratulations on your reworking of the Royal Court Theatre. David Lauder 08:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Toye & Norris

Thank you once more for giving my text a wash and brush up. I feel rather guilty: I have all the fun and you do all the work. Well, great will be your reward in heaven. - Tim riley 22:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Arthur Sullivan

Nice rewrite! I was hoping that someone would: Previously it seemed to be saying that Sullivan went to Leipzig twice which looked dubious :-D  uriel8  (talk) 14:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The Window

Spot on, I'd say.... This was quite a serious gap in the coverage of Sullivan - now, happily, filled. Tim Riley 08:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Malcolm Sargent

You are very kind to take so much trouble, bless you! I'll look into the picture business tomorrow. Tim Riley 19:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

You asked me to take a look at the work that had been done on this, while I was away. I did look when I came back and thought it excellent - then forgot to let you know! (I probably remember more when I make negative comments). Kbthompson 09:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Great article. I added two photos (with fair use rationales, so there will be no problem)...egde 10:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

David Russell Hulme

You have done a lovely job on the article. Jack1956 18:27, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

The New Moon

Thanks for this. -- Kleinzach 23:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Musicals Article Structure

Read over, looks good! Much applause! You deserve a cookie - here's one!

Heck, take two! --omtay38 19:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You rock!

'nuff said! --omtay38 00:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

The Story of Gilbert and Sullivan (film))

Yet again a fantastic contribution. Many thanks. Regarding David Russell Hulme, I have a photo somewhere that I took when I sang with him in the 1970s. If I can find it I'll scan it and upload it to the article. Jack1956 21:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Terence Rees and Scott Fishe

I love this... I write 4 sentences on an article Terence Rees‎ and go to bed and as if by magic the next day it's finished! And it's another brilliant article, much better than I could have created. Many thanks. I'll have a look at those articles you mentioned! Jack1956 17:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. You have done another great job by polishing up the Scott Fishe article to such a good standard. I wish I had your expertise. Jack1956 23:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Sullivan mss & George Sheringham

Infinitely obliged! -- Tim riley (talk) 22:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Imperial triple crown jewels

Your Imperial Majesty, even if these regalia are just stage props, it's nice to be able to hand them to you. May you wear them well. Durova 05:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Eugène Oudin; Bill Francoeur

Thanks for great job on Oudin.... Jack1956 (talk) 18:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on Francoeur. Melbrooksfan101 talk 04:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Trial by Jury - Gurneys

Well done on pursuing this. I have just finished reading the Elliott book which answers all the questions and I aspire to finding some time to work on all the articles but ... Cutler (talk) 09:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Fallen Fairies

I found a photo of Nancy McIntosh and uploaded it. Ther others weren't really of the show. I will search further and upload as appropriate ThanksBroadwaygal (talk) 18:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I added the image to the article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Her Majesty's Theatre

... and to you both. It was a collaborative effort and without sane people around, I was beginning to chew my leg off... as it was, I got off with a limp. Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 09:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Boer War Te Deum/Te Deum Laudamus (Sullivan)

I just started an article on the Boer War Te Deum this morning. It's a rough stub, and I am currently looking for more references. If you have time, could you take a look? Thanks Broadwaygal (talk) 18:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

"The Bob"

Thanks for your input! Typos will be the death of me, just so you know. I absolutely hate the one image available of Marshall, and I'm positive that he'd hate it too; it's the monkey suit. I contacted the Adirondack Museum to see if they can release an image or two under GFDL for me to use. I would love to get a similar pic to what I've seen in my book sources, with him grinning goofily while posing on mountaintops with grimy, exhausted looking guides. So we'll see. :) María (habla conmigo) 20:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Signor Brocolini

Rocked with mirth at reading about the origin of his name! Only one measly correction contributed. Another SSilvers coup. Tim riley (talk) 19:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Can't fault it- another brilliant piece of research and well-written. Jack1956 (talk) 21:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Dear Ss, I am very pleased to know about Sig. Brocolini, of whom I have never previously heard, but I think I have read somewhere that he was especially admired in a trio from La finta giardiniera with Mme Spinaci and the basso cantante Bruschetta, under the baton of the great Vermicelli. Keep up the good work, Eebahgum (talk) 00:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back and hello again. Nice job of discovery, and very thorough. And yes, he's a credit to my name, maybe. (Perhaps I need to change mine too. . .) JohnClarknew (talk) 23:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

James Conroy-Ward

The star is totally deserved. I have a programme for the 1975 performance of 'Utopia' somewhere, and will check it out, but presume that, as he is on the recording he must have been in the performance. GD I am less sure about. Jack1956 (talk) 14:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Never Forget

Thanks again for your help. I think the article looks great now! - certainly better than any other musicals in 2008.... Anyway, thanks again. -- Dave S Light Defender (talk) 15:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

If I could figure out how to give you a Barnstar (or a bouquet of flowers) I would. Thanks for the help on Bernadette Peters, she's looking good. I'll look at the article again next week, with fresh eyes, to see what other bits and pieces it might need. JeanColumbia (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Amy Evans

Thanks for the splendid overhaul.... -- Drhoehl (talk) 02:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hair Be-In

Hey ssilvers! .. didn't get a chance to trade contact info last night @ the Hair Be-In. Here's a link to my band's website http://www.gladshot.com/home.htm

Yeston

You've got more stamina than I! Article looks great, I made a few very minor edits, and added external links to articles on a few of his lesser known works.JeanColumbia (talk) 17:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Dolly

Thanks for editing my Hello, Dolly! Act One synopsis. It's so much more concise and well-written now!MarianKroy (talk) 20:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Great Job on Hair!

Hey! Just wanted to say thanks for all the great work! Sorry I couldn't be more help these last couple days. Love all the new stuff you added. Talk to you soon - User:Mblaxill 20:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey! i sorta like the notability order of it tho don't have a strong opinion either way - thanks and happy NY to yoo too !! Mblaxill (talk) 22:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Shoe: G&S articles/scholarship

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Gilbert_and_Sullivan/Marc_Shepherd's_Gilbert_and_Sullivan_Discography. See: Misplaced Pages:FCDW/June 26, 2008.

I wonder if it would ever be worth doing an article on G&S scholarship? You know, cover the major discoveries, describe the evolution of the field... or is that too likely to hit problems? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Aha! I have suggested this before. I think it would be great. It is a difficult job and requires library access. For journals, you may even have to write to the various different G&S societies to get back issues or whatever. I'll help if I can, but I can't go to the library on it. I think that some of the journals have online indexes to their old articles. Maybe Stephen Turnbull and Andrew Crowther can help you. Mitch Gillett might be able to help with GASBAG, and Angie Arnall might be able to help with The Gilbert and Sullivan News. Even more important, is the old Gilbert and Sullivan Journal, which is no longer published. Books are easier, and Ainger's list of references is a good place to start. Also, see this. Crowther's site lists various useful resources. Good luck! -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Imperial Napoleonic triple crown

Gilbert & Sullivan for All

Hi Ssilvers, the article will appear on DYK tomorrow . This is entirely due to your contribution. Jack1956 (talk) 22:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Summer's over

Summer's almost over so back to work-or whatever it is that we all do! Welcome back, I've missed the conversations (so to speak....)JeanColumbia (talk) 19:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Royal Aquarium

Gosh! A splendid article. I had no idea the Royal Aquarium ever existed. I wonder if Whiteley might be better described as a retailer or some such rather than 'of Westbourne Grove'? Tim riley (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Barry Clark; Foggerty's Fairy

Lovely job, as usual. Many thanks. Jack1956 (talk) 07:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

And another fantastic job on Foggerty's Fairy. Absolutely brilliant! Jack1956 (talk) 07:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The Princess (poem)

Good stuff there. The Land Surveyor (talk) 18:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

		The WikiProject Musical Theatre Barnstar
		For your kind efforts to reach a common ground on musical article content, I award you my Musical Theatre Barnstar. Enjoy! Mizu onna sango15 20:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Whittington

Thanks for the Barnstar...it is much appreciated. I had a look at Dick Whittingon (and his cat!) but you had done your usual excellent and comprehensive job so that there was little I could find to add. I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year. Jack1956 (talk) 08:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Best Wishes

Thespis

A Boxing Day treat on the front page. Most appropriate! Tim riley (talk) 09:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all the help recently

Thomprod (talk) has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!

Your advice is always welcome. Thomprod (talk) 19:20, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Alice May

Gosh! I'd never heard of her - and what a lot you've unearthed.... (Many thanks for rescuing me in re the NC pic, by the bye) Tim riley (talk) 09:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Haddon Hall

That really is very interesting and genuinely helpful. Many thanksOrdyg (talk) 20:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Henry Lytton

Keep up the good work; I'm particularly fond of musical theatre too and see you’ve contributed greatly to various articles on the subject! -- Vegan4Life (talk) 11:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

R. H. Burnside

Thanks for helping out. I know that he did a lot of G & S towards the end of his career... -- kosboot (talk) 03:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Eric Lewis (actor)

Wow! What an article! What could I possibly add? Instead, I've started a new one as an off-shoot of yours, Richard Corney Grain. Jack1956 (talk) 16:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Lovely job on Richard Corney Grain. Many thanks for your excellent input. Jack1956 (talk) 18:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Hamilton Clarke

Gosh! I got more than I bargained for: some top notch stuff there - thank you so much! I've piled Pelion on Ossa by rummaging in the archives of The Observer Tim riley (talk) 12:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

The 50 DYK Medal

		The 50 DYK Medal
		Thank you for your invaluable contributions to the encyclopedia by creating so much great new content. Let this small token remind you that all of your hard work is appreciated by both readers and your fellow editors. Dravecky (talk) 06:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Fox

Thanks for the compliment - it was you who challenged me to create an article on her (I didn't think there would be that much). I look at your work for inspiration on format, organization, etc. Thanks! -- kosboot (talk) 12:13, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA?

Is there a reason you've never run for admin? I realize the process is appalling, but you seem eminently qualified and the pain only lasts a week.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

E. H. Sothern

Am mortified at lumbering you with the hard labour on the wrong Mr Sothern! Abject grovel. A jolly good job you've made, too, if I may say so. As no good deed goes unpunished, may I trouble you to look at the changes I've made to the article on Max Adrian. Tim riley (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Gretchen (play)

This is a very good article. The only suggestion is to move the Analysis section after the synopsis. This isn't a play most readers will be familiar with, and the analysis is difficult to follow unless you already know what happens in the story. Marc Shepherd (talk) 14:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Present Laughter

I hate you. The article is so much improved after your changes. Tim riley (talk) 20:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Great additions to Pauline Joran - thanks!

I'm very impressed with the additional info - real improvement, so thanks. Incidentally, a small note - I hope you don't mind, but I corrected back a couple of references to the daughter's name - it's definitely "Paulise" with a S. I think it's been a long running cause of confusion, but Pauline's daughter is definitely Paulise with a S - see "The Art of Dress" by Jane Ashelford and National Trust publications regarding the Paulise de Bush costume collection at Killerton House. (probably easier to get hold of than journals for the Costume Society!) Best regards, Mabalu (talk) 09:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Noël Coward

Article has passed GA review. I have sent thanks to Otto4711 for his thoroughness and help. I need hardly say – but nonetheless do – how grateful I am for the Ssilvers magic touch passim. Now at your service for the Carte clan. Tim riley (talk) 17:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Much touched by your addition to my user page. A pleasure to do business with you, sir. If I knew how I'd add a similar gong to yours. Pray take the will for the deed. Tim riley (talk) 15:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

This Happy Breed

That's so much better - bless you! Shall look out the additional info you suggest. Have sent a separate communication about a possible NC photograph. Tim riley (talk) 17:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Noel Coward FA

Hi, Thank you for showing me that the poster is for another use. I have only one image concern left as stated on the FAC. Is it possible to get that first press photo of Coward, in dressing gown, on a bed, smoking a cigerette? I believe that is more pertinent to the paragraph next to File:Coward with-cigarette-holder.jpg, seeing how it talks of Coward's consternation at being equated to look like a "Chinese decadent" (which would require imagery!). Thank you for your patience with me on the image issues as well. Jappalang (talk) 06:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations on a successful nomination and on your efforts to get the article's excellent qualities recognised by the powers that be. Jack1956 (talk) 07:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I second that. I was pleased to work on the article at PR, and am delighted to see its deserved promotion. Brianboulton (talk) 09:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

So awfully fine ... Kbthompson (talk) 13:02, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy to see the desired conclusion. Wonderful article. Finetooth (talk) 14:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. Congratulations! Tony (talk) 14:34, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		This is awarded in recognition of your excellent work on Noël Coward. Congratulations on achieving Featured Article status! LiteraryMaven (talk • contrib) 14:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Congrats from me, as well! You both did a terrific job. It's always a pleasure working with you, so don't hesitate to let me in on your next project. :) María (habla conmigo) 16:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

If I were to add all the thanks that you deserve, this page would suddenly be several yards longer. Bless you. Tim riley (talk) 19:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for showing all of us how good FAs can be. Please return to FAC. Regards, Dabomb87 (talk) 21:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Braham and Brent

Excellent additions and edits. May your shadow never grow less. Tim riley (talk) 19:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Darrell Fancourt

I've rummaged in the archives and put a lot of stuff in the article, which consequently looks a bit slablike, and would benefit from the Ssilvers touch if you have a few minutes. Tim riley (talk) 10:40, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Much better - bless you! Tim riley (talk) 16:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

"Boys and Girls Like You and Me" by Rodgers & Hammerstein

The song has an interesting history because it has been "almost been" in several musicals, but was cut before opening. It is also used in some stage versions of Rodgers and Hammerstein's "Cinderella", although it was not in the original 1957 TV production with Julie Andrews.

• The song was originally written for "Oklahoma!" as a duet for Curly and Laurey, but was cut during previews.
• MGM bought the song and used it in the 1944 film "Meet Me in St. Louis" as a duet between Judy Garland and Tom Drake, but the song was cut during previews, and the footage is presumed lost. (I have read that a small fragment of the missing musical number is included in the "Coming Attractions" trailer, but I have not yet verified that.) However, the song was released on the "B" side of a Decca single by Garland (the "A" side was "The Trolley Song"), which is mentioned in Misplaced Pages under Judy Garland discography.
• MGM again attempted to use it in another musical film, the title of which I can not immediately recall, but it was again cut. I can do some more research on that later.
• In Richard Rodgers' autobiography, I recall when he and Oscar Hammerstein wrote the 1957 TV version of "Cinderella", they used the music as part of the waltz music at the ball, but it was not originally used as an integrated song. I see that on Youtube, in some stage productions of "Cinderella", the King and Queen perform this song in the first palace scene.
• "Boys and Girls Like You and Me" was also included in a 1996 stage version of "State Fair". There is a reference to this in Misplaced Pages; please see the following link: .
• Frank Sinatra film Thanks! LA Movie Buff (talk) 00:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Fanny Ronalds

That's a lovely new article on Fanny Ronalds. And informative: I'd always assumed (wrongly, it seems) she was in some sense a professional singer because of her association with "The Lost Chord." -- Arxiloxos (talk) 18:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Image:Dorofield Hardy - Arthur Sullivan, Mendelssohn Scholar, 1856.jpg

For the record, this would replace the second image in Arthur Sullivan, File:Young_Arthur_Sullivan.jpg. As I said, I know I need to work on Pinafore, but this is at least somewhat productive, and I felt up to it, so, better it than nothing. - Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 23:00, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

No, the current caption appears to be accurate, since Sullivan says in the interview that he was 18 and at Leipzig when the photo was taken. Masters of Contemporary Music would seem to be wrong. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Newman

Hearty thanks as always for your sprucing up of the article. I have also been tinkering with the article on Neville Cardus which if you have a moment, pray peruse. Tim riley (talk) 19:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

A belated thank you

I didn't get a chance to thank you for your outstanding peer review of OWH, so please accept this as a tardy (but still heartfelt!) note of appreciation:

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For Ssilvers, who went above and beyond the typical reviewing standards to help Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. achieve FA-status before his bicentennial. Your thorough dissection and willingness to leave no stone unturned is much appreciated. As the Autocrat himself would say, "People who honestly mean to be true contradict themselves much more rarely than those who try to be 'consistent'." With many thanks, María (habla conmigo) 21:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll happily second this as well. My experience with the Holmes article has revived my faith in the collaborative spirit of this project (which, by the way, was sorely needed). People, like you, who are willing to join the team mentality make it all worthwhile. --Midnightdreary (talk) 22:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Command Performances

What a fantastic picture! Jack1956 (talk) 14:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yum!

Great timing! I've been feeling abandoned, alone, taken for granted, deserted, and undesserted. LilHelpa (talk) 20:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Ta very much (as we Scousers say)

Louis Cohen (conductor) thanks you for buffing up his article. Tim riley (talk) 15:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC) (per pro)

Thank you

Hey, thank you. I'm glad there's someone on Misplaced Pages encouraging other people. I do not think I want to write articles though, maybe just be an editor. Thanks again! Tweedle20 (talk) 16:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Tweedle20

• Thaanks =) from me as well . –xeno 18:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Re:Articles about singers

Thank you for the visit and helpful comments.... By the way, I've just listened to 3 savoy operas so far and am a bit surprised at knowing of the enthusiastic and well organized WP:G&S project. It looks interesting to me. You're a coordinator of the project? If so, keep up the good work. Best regards.--Caspian blue 01:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

HMS Pinafore

Congratulations on promotion of this article to FA! Well deserved. Xandar 17:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, well done. –Juliancolton |  23:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed! Is it two down, 12 to go now? --Wehwalt (talk) 23:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually 3 down, 11 to go Thespis (opera), Trial by Jury and Pinafore. But I have a new strategy: I'm planning to bring a bunch of them to GA before doing another FA. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey, congrats to you, as well! I'm also giving FA a long break with the hope of creating and expanding sorely overlooked nature-related articles. Variety is good. See you around GAC. :) María (habla conmigo) 19:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Likewise, congratulations on all that work. You dropped in to my talk page and invited me to participate in the FAC since I had done the GAN. Thanks, and I did keep an eye on progress, but it seemed to have enough contributors that I just let it be. Regards. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Ruddigore

As the most developed of the articles, it may be worth opening a generalist peer review on it, to try and get some idea of whether there's anything we aren't aware of. What do you think? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't think it is ready for a peer review, as we just discussed. Look at Pinafore and go section by section. Are all the sections there and filled out? Plus, it looks like you are forgetting the conversation that we just had above with Wehwalt. He plans to work on it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree, get it in the best shape we can conveniently get it in, put your best foot forward and all that. I have to order a couple of refs. If it helps, I can bump my next planned article and start serious work on this.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I will probably not get to it until the end of August. I'm distracted by my FAC for United States Senate election in California, 1950 and am slowly working on Nikita Khruschev. I have the suggested books and will work on it as time permits.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Are you going to move ahead with it? I'm sorry, I just have not had time, through travel and whatnot, and don't see myself having the time anytime soon. I'll help where I can, if so.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

No. As I said before, if Shoemaker and you move ahead, I'll look at it when you're done, but I've got other priorities. If I were going to work on a G&S opera article, it would be Gondoliers (since BHT is doing it this year), Mikado or Pirates. Mikado has its 125th anniversary coming up. -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:43, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

OK. I have all the books. It is just getting the time to deal with it. And Khrushchev has turned into a mammoth project.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:52, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Barnstars

You really do deserve them all. Well done! Stikko (talk) 22:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

StarM 02:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

NYPL

See User:DGG/NYPL -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:40, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Stephen Moorer

		The Original Barnstar
		For an impressive and tireless and extensive 6-day period of major research and writing on Stephen Moorer, way over and above the call of duty. Well done! Softlavender (talk) 07:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Earl Wrightson

I had set the stage to create the article for Earl Wrightson in the wake of the Lois Hunt article I had just created after her recent death. I click on the link and lo and behold you've already created the article. Keep up the great work! Alansohn (talk) 18:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Congrats!

On Pinafore, scheduled for the main page August 11. --Wehwalt (talk) 00:28, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations on H.M.S. Pinafore making Featured Article for the Day. It's really nice to see more classical music articles being recognized and gettting such exposure. Jonyungk (talk) 12:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Was just stopping by to say the same thing! Congrats! — MusicMaker5376 15:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

An Eton Poetry Book

It is above and beyond the call of duty that you should amend the punctuation etc of such an obscure English article. Misplaced Pages would be the poorer without your eagle eye. Tim riley (talk) 20:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

The Ne'er-do-Weel

Another fantastic job on a G&S related article. I go to bed and as if by magic in the morning this amazing article has sprung up out of all your hard work. Can you think of a DYK? Jack1956 (talk) 09:49, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

		The Gilbert and Sullivan Barnstar
		For your significant contribution in expanding The Ne'er-do-Weel I award you this barnstar. Jack1956 (talk) 21:30, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

BC/EFA

Grazie (that's what is taking my time--studying for my trip); I thought EVERYONE knew what the Flea Market & Gypsy of the Year were! Anyway, I'll be totally gone in mid-October for 16 days, will let you know when I waddle back (pasta! gelato!).JeanColumbia (talk) 21:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Amy Evans

Thanks for the kind words and further improvements.<snip>. Drhoehl (talk) 23:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Carl Rosa Opera Company

I have just clocked how many alterations you have made to links to Carl Rosa/Carl Rosa Opera Company, and am mightily obliged for your noble undertaking of this drudgery. I should have thought of it myself when creating the spin-off article! Bless you. - Tim riley (talk) 11:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Happy to do it. It's something I can do at work in between things. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Possibly. Nonetheless, I'd decorate you with a barnowl or possibly popstar if I knew how. Personally I think the OM would not be excessive. - Tim riley (talk) 15:49, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Richard D'Oyly Carte

You're both very welcome. I enjoy a good read, especially when it keeps me from worrying about my master's thesis. :) María (habla conmigo) 13:43, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

The Fortune Hunter

		The Gilbert and Sullivan Barnstar
		For your amazing contribution in expanding The Fortune Hunter I award you this G&S barnstar. Jack1956 (talk) 18:44, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Ss, that and your kind words are much appreciated. It is always a pleasure to work with you. Jack1956 (talk) 18:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Lottie Venne

You persist in shaming me by producing out of your hat Victorian stars I've never heard of. Lottie sounds to have been great fun. I've given her the once-over and amended a few literals. I'll rummage in the Victorian newspaper archives and see if I can find anything of interest to add. - Tim riley (talk) 19:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

• Great job on Walter H. Fisher. I suspected he was married to Venne thinking it unlikely there were two Fishers and that she'd married the one in D'Oyly Carte but was trying to find something to substantiate it. Nice work. Jack1956 (talk) 07:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Sybil Grey

I agree with you totally, Ssilvers. Always a pleasure to work with you and Tim on these. What amazes me is when I've given up having exhausted all the avenues open to me you find loads more interesting facts! And great to think we are giving them the belated recognition (and dare I say immortality) that they deserve. Maybe I'm just sentimental, but I look at Walter Fisher and Lottie Venne who we have reunited here on Wiki having made the connection between them! Jack1956 (talk) 20:36, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

100th DYK!

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• Congratulations on your 100th DYK! Jack1956 (talk) 20:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

		The 100 DYK Medal
		It is my pleasure to award you, Ssilvers, this medal, and I hope this is not the last one you'll receive from the project. Materialscientist (talk) 01:57, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Eddy Sackville-West

I can scarcely bring myself to ask you this, but if you could spare a few minutes (which you will not, I fear, find very interesting) a swift once-over of this article would be esteemed a favour. - Tim riley (talk) 18:16, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Yet another good deed for the day! I am indebted. - Tim riley (talk) 19:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Elizabeth Harwood

Your comment at my talk page is, naturally, much appreciated. Just to show that no good deed goes unpunished, could you find a few minutes to look at Elizabeth Harwood, which I have just been beefing up? - Tim riley (talk) 20:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Done. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year Awadewit (talk) 05:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Review requests

I have been doing a spot of work on Colin Davis. Grateful if you would have a look at it. - Tim riley (talk) 17:33, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Much obliged for your unwinking editorial eye. I've dealt with most of your points, and will finish putting issue dates in the Recordings section tomorrow. - Tim riley (talk)

I have yet another article on an English musician that I'd be grateful if you'd run your unblinking editorial eye over, viz. John Barbirolli. - Tim riley (talk) 14:56, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

As a token of gratitude

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your taking the extra trouble to expertly edit Themes in Avatar towards improvement. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 05:47, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

The Open Boat; Rupert

Hey, thanks for your comments re: "The Open Boat"! I greatly appreciate the feedback, and agree with all of your points on the talk page. I'll try to get to Rupert today or tomorrow. Take care, María (habla conmigo) 14:26, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar / John Reed article

Thanks much. I appreciate the notice. LilHelpa (talk) 21:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Muriel Dickson

Thank you for making this a much better article! 4meter4 (talk) 19:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

OIWW

Roosevelt Island rag on the separation of the organizations.

• http://www.nyc10044.com/wire/3007/wire3007.pdf (start with page 3)
• http://www.nyc10044.com/wire/3009/wire3009.pdf (start with page 2)
• OIA executive director: Starlenejohnson (talk)

Themes in Avatar recap — Thanks

Hi SSilvers. I have left a note of gratitude on Talk:Themes in Avatar for your tremendous input there. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 00:42, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for the rationale and for ce of images and captions. The felling of the hometree is a very good image. Would it be too much to ask of you to help expand the lead as per discussion with DrNegative on Peer review page? You seem to have a very clear idea on how to do it. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 16:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Breaker

I was suprised to find our that Daniel Breaker did not have an article despite being nominated for a Tony and having been in several Bordway shows. I have since created an article for him, but it is very empty. I was hoping you will help me fill it up.--JDDJS (talk) 01:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Jeffrey Skitch

Yet again, I do all I can in an evening and the next morning wake up to a brilliant article. Excellent job! I'll have a look at it today Ss and think of a joint DYK. All the best. Jack1956 (talk) 06:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

DYKs

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Your barnstar

		The Good Article Barnstar
		As a token of deep gratitude for your state-of-the-art editing of Themes in Avatar that helped it rise to GA status, I present you with this barnstar. Thanks and regards, Cinosaur (talk) 17:49, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

A thank you from London

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For Ssilvers, whose diligence in advising, supporting, and even (if you please) correcting me, has helped me in more articles than I can name – and today I am in his debt for helping me get Adrian Boult to FA. – Tim riley (talk) 22:12, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Awww, shucks, guys. Thanks for all the bling! -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Appropriate Sources for Critical Reception in Musical Theatre articles

I've found a book that is a collection of theatre reviews for Broadway shows. It's called 'Opening Night on Broadway: A Critical Quotebook of the Golden Era of the Musical Theatre...." Since a lot of the critical reception sections are pretty bare, I thought I might add quotations of the reviews from the book. Does such a book constitute a reliable source? I know it can be difficult to track down newspaper reviews in their original form, and it seems to me that indirect quotes are better than no quotes at all. However, I'd like your opinion since you're a more experienced editor than I. MarianKroy (talk) 02:49, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, this book is most certainly a WP:RS. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:35, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Loretta Ables Sayre

Hey. I was wondering if you can help me add Categories and fix the refernces and the over all make up of the Loretta Ables Sayre article I created.--JDDJS (talk) 00:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Done. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Guidance Barnstar
		This is for helping me fix the pages I create. JDDJS (talk) 15:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Straight Up (book)

Greetings, Ssilvers. You are off to such a great start on the article Straight Up (book).... -- Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 07:28, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

DYKs

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Thanks for this one Victuallers (talk) 00:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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Oklahoma! Article Assessment

Hello! Could you take a look at Oklahoma! for me? I've added a critical reception section and done some other miscellaneous edits, and I think it could be moved from C-class to B-class. I'd like to know what you think about it. MarianKroy (talk) 23:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Done -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Edward Elgar

Greatly obliged for your copy editing of this very long article, on a subject not conspicuously part of the Ssilvers curriculum. I am grateful for your colleaguely help on this. - Tim riley (talk) 17:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Adminship

Do you have any interest in being an administrator? I will nominate you because I think you will be a great one. JDDJS (talk) 21:27, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. That's very kind of you, but I do not want to be an administrator. I am interested in content, and so I am happy to let other responsible editors deal with administration. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:41, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

D'Oyly Carte Opera Company

Delayed, as usual, but I've finally reviewed (and passed) the article. Great work, as usual, the lot of you. María (habla conmigo) 16:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Well done, again. - Tim riley (talk) 18:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Derby Gilbert & Sullivan Company

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Love never dies

Hi Ssilvers, ... Loving your work on the article. ... This could easily be a potential GA in the future. All the best Mark E (talk) 21:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Integration

You're right, I need sources. I've had limited library access the past few months, but I did check out some more scholarly musical theatre books, notably Mark N. Grant's The Rise and Fall of the Broadway Musical and Ethan Mordden's examinations of each decade of American musical theatre. Both authors concluded that yes, there was a lot of fluffy stuff on Broadway for the first few decades, but there were signs of development in various directions:

On Your Toes (1936) at least placed ballet alongside musical theatre, featuring two lengthy ballets. Kurt Weill's pre-Oklahoma American work included One Touch of Venus, which again utilized a couple ballets that actually illustrated Venus's character and inner conflict (the "Venus in Ozone Heights" ballet). Weill and Moss Hart collaborated on Lady in the Dark, which used psychoanalysis as a means of delving into the mind of successful but indecisive and romantically uncertain Liza Elliot; almost all the music in the show occurs in three extensive dreams that reveal Liza's fears and past experiences. The man for her turns out to be the one who can complete the leitmotif she cannot finish herself (the song is "My Ship", the only song that occurs in "real life"). "Peggy Ann" (1926) was an even earlier use of dreams as a revelation of character, though musical comedy conventions were still included. "Of Thee I Sing" (1931) had a satirical plot tied to an equally biting, yet humorous, score by the Gershwins. Though the characters may be considered caricatures, the score is integrated in a manner not unlike Gilbert and Sullivan. Pal Joey portrayed hard, immoral central characters without sentiment; the non-nightclub numbers do function within the plot.

The authors basically concluded that though Show Boat and Oklahoma! are significant milestones in musical theatre, they didn't spring out of nowhere as the popular (in the sense of appealing to the public) musical theatre books I have read attest. I don't know if their view is a "the moon is made of cheese" kind of thing...if we're going by general consensus, it might be. I found it interesting, though, and was impressed with their scholarship. I don't want to get into a debate, so I'll do some reading in the next few weeks (I'm moving closer to a good library soon) which will hopefully provide solid references and help determine what should be written (which, given that Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia and not a research journal, might mean less depth than I've been trying to find). MarianKroy (talk) 04:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

DYKs

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Moving articles

If trying to make a move, but an article is not available because it has already been created for a redirect, use the tag {{db-move}} to enable a proper move to be made by an admin.

DYK for Philip Michael Faraday

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— Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Apologies

After reading around wikipedia a little bit more I am beginning to understand how annoying may be dealing with undequalified people trying to put forth their opinion in the areas of their lack of expertise and frustrating is dealing with them every day, fixing their sloppy edits rather than adding something significant. Therefore I apologize for my intervention. In the future I will try to stick to the areas where I have a sure knowledge. Lorem Ip (talk) 15:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Peggy Ann Jones

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G&S External Link

Hello! I really appreciate your diligence in monitoring the Gilbert and Sullivan information for WP. I wonder if you would reconsider removing the external link connecting Yale's collection to the page. The Sidney Rose Collection of Gilbert and Sullivan contains not only materials such as scores and libretti (which are indeed widely available), but also an unusually extensive collection of ephemera, most of it focusing on performances of G & S in the United States. These performances are documented by posters, programs, production photographs, reviews, and a wide variety of other items. Many of these items—especially those having to do with the more obscure performances—may be difficult or impossible to find elsewhere. -- Best Wishes from Tjr36 (talk) 17:38, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Tjr36, put the Yale link back. You might be a good wikipedia editor but you are obviously not a scholar. Internet resources should also lead to REAL WORLD resources. This is a continuum, not a prison. The Yale collection as well as the other ones you mentioned (i.e., Harvard, Morgan, etc.) are not only unique but essential to know about for researchers. Who would think about looking for them on a G&S wikipedia scholar guide!? That is a really bad idea. In addition, the document that Tjr36 linked to IS an online resource; to me saying that it's not really useful to a wikipedia reader is a fallacy. Finally, if you had taken the time to look into this a little more you would have found out that Yale does indeed provides access to some G&S material online like This trading card comes from the collection that Tjr36 linked to originally. Now, if you don't put that link back it will be a proof of intellectual dishonesty and I will have to report your abusive editorial practices. Casrong —Preceding undated comment added 02:48, 30 September 2010 (UTC).

As I told Tjr36 on his talk page, we don't even have links to the 5 great G&S collections in the world: the British Library, the Theatre Museum, the Royal Academy of Music, the DOC archives and the Morgan Library, so why would we have a link to lesser collections? There are dozens or hundreds of them, and Misplaced Pages is not a collection of links. Also, your message, with its demand, threat and personal attack, violates our guideline WP:CIVIL. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

One is a bit dismayed at this quite severe attack on Ssilvers, a trusted Wiki colleague. It is plainly important to keep a sense of proportion. If links to collections are wanted I think Casrong might like to link to the major resources first before adding a link to a relatively minor one. Failure to do so would mislead the reader into taking Casrong's favoured resource as the main one. Happy to add these thoughts to any arbitration page if needed. Tim riley (talk) 16:28, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Someone could write an article (or maybe a list article) about G&S scholarship and the major research resources for G&S, of course, but WP:EL prohibits simply adding links to all of them to the main article, because these links are "only indirectly related" to the subject. Indeed, I feel that many of the ELs to Yale's collections that have been added to numerous WP articles are simply promotional in violation of our guidelines, including the one on on external link spamming. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:50, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you so much for taking your time to assess the Kerry Ellis article. I truly appreciate the notes you've given me, it'll definitely help! I can't thank you enough. A LOT NEEDS DOING!!!!!! :) -- Stephenjamesx (talk) 21:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

DYKs

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SOS

hi Ssilvers.. hope you remember me. if not then John Faithfull Fleet should help:) . am writing to you coming back after a long break, and i need your help. my page Namadhari naik in this period has been moved to Namadhari by a person who has been attacking my page for long. i am almost alone on wiki n not autoconfirmed too. to top it all as you might know, am just ok with computers. can you help me in this. if my page goes then years of painstaking work will be in tatters. am anyway planning to comeout with a book in near future, but the real loss would be youngsters like me who frequent net. so may i request you to help me counting on you as a friend?

meanwhile, came across this 100yr old book by Mr.G.A.Grierson, CIE,ICS. It is none other than the Linguistic Survey of India!! many more such books lying in the record section here. and have been at it since joining office in june. into the same service as the abve 2 individuals, only that the 'C' is replaced by 'A' now:) Tej smiles (talk) 19:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

William Walton

It is noble of you – above and beyond the call of duty – to plough through my prose on an English composer of (I suspect) no interest to you whatever. (Mind you, Belshazzar's Feast is, as I recall from my youth, an exhilarating work to sing – so if anyone invites you...) I didn't have the cheek to ask you to proof-read this one, and I am most grateful for you for undertaking it unbidden. Bless you! – Tim riley (talk) 17:07, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

’u’

What kind of expansion of the synopsis of ’u’ do you want to see? The entire plot in detail? The synopsis mentions all the important events which happened in the opera (and I have attended one of the performances so I know). For more expansion the article about Kahless could be used since the opera is based on his 'life' (or rather what we know about him) and does not deviate from the backstory as told in the various Star Trek outings. SpeakFree (talk) 15:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

• I still must have an A4 handout of the scenes which I got at the performance. If I can still find it I could enhance the section. SpeakFree (talk) 17:04, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Flower Drum Song

Saw you did some work way back on Flower Drum Song. Am reading a book about the play and it seems an article worth improving.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:55, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Baron Golosh

What language is Baron Golosh in, if you know? I've been cleaning up Category:Operettas by giving all the entries subcategories of their own, by language. Baron Galosh is the only one left, because I can't tell what language it's in. Softlavender (talk) 07:47, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

English. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I've been on a Wiki-break. Softlavender (talk) 01:30, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Ambassador stuff (Autumn 2010)

The study of controversial content that you found looks very useful and I have assigned it to the Lehigh students in that sections of the course page. But I don't seem to have got the formmating right; could you explain? Also, while I have "watch this page" checked for both the course and discussion pages, I do not seem to actually get notices of changes. Any idea why? Thanks.--Ck07 (talk) 22:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

		Misplaced Pages Ambassador Barnstar
		For outstanding efforts helping a student, which will soon have led to the first successful DYK from a student working with the ambassadors program, I award Ssilvers the Misplaced Pages Ambassador Barnstar.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 20:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Awesome 'first' there, congratulations!--Pharos (talk) 20:40, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with my footnote! IR393.sae211 (talk) 20:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Mentees - Autumn 2010

Deme - IR393DEME (talk • contribs)

Hello, I am IR393DEME from Lehigh University and I hope you will be my mentor this semester! I will be working on the East Timor case. IR393DEME (talk • contribs) 18:18, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

• Indonesian occupation of East Timor

sae211 - IR393.sae211 (talk • contribs)

Hi, I'm IR393.sae211 and I'm also participating in a Misplaced Pages project for the Seminar in Intervention. Would you be my mentor this semester? I am studying the Sierra Leone Civil War. Thanks. -- IR393.sae211 (talk • contribs) 01:29, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Gsrogers (talk • contribs)

Hello! I'm a student in the Misplaced Pages Public Policy class at Syracuse University. I saw that you have expertise in law, and I am planning on contributing to the Fair Sentencing Act article, which is currently a stub on Misplaced Pages. I should have begun to add content by 11:00 PM tonight (EST). Hopefully you can give me some feedback as I'm new to this and can use all the help I can get! Thanks! Gsrogers (talk • contribs) 17:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

FruitForAll (talk • contribs)

Hi Ssilvers, Would you be willing to be my mentor? I'm working on the public policy initiative with Indiana University. Thank you. -- FruitForAll (talk • contribs) 00:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)FruitForAll

Klcai (talk • contribs)

UC Berkeley's Politics of Piracy class ... the Secure Federal File Sharing Act, 02:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Operetta

Thanks for the additional cleanup, particularly the irrelevant musicals. I also vote to remove the ending Bernstein bit about musicals vs. operettas. As much as I love the guy, this opinion/paragraph is not only completely silly and idiosyncractic, but it also muddies the waters of an already muddy article. Besides, there's no easy way to check and see if that's really what he said (somehow I doubt it's entirely accurate). Not to mention, Bernstein is not a critical authority on the subject, and he was probably just babbling off the cuff. I vote you or I remove it. OK? Softlavender (talk) 03:39, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Clifford Odets

I've just added to the article on Clifford Odets the assertion that his play "Till the Day I Die" was banned on account of its anti-Nazi message. I have just found that it was banned in Australia and now unsure whether it was just Oz or US as well. Would it be any trouble to check your sources? Here's the second link http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17298671 (Disturbing how highly regarded they were before Poland.) --Doug butler (talk) 09:09, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Silverware

		Prince of Proofreaders Barnstar
		For constantly rescuing me and my prose, reading articles that must have bored you to sobs, and helping me get them up to GA/FA I gratefully present you with this special barnstar. – Tim riley (talk) 22:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

DYKs

On 1 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article J. B. Fagan, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:04, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Well done!--Doug butler (talk) 06:56, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

On 4 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Robert Wilson (tenor), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- Cirt (talk) 18:03, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

KUTGW

.... means "keep up the good work". I admit that it is one of the lesser-used and perhaps passe' acronyms.... Ling.Nut (talk) 00:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi, I just saw your "WikiPen" on Gsrogers' talk page. Great idea! Your contribution to the Public Policy Initiative is making a difference. --Fschulenburg (Public Policy) (talk) 04:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Kbthompson

Very very sad news, but thank you very much for thinking of letting people know and for making that section on his talk page. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 11:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

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DYKs

On 21 December 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article La Vivandière (Gilbert), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that La Vivandière (1867) was one of the early comedies by W. S. Gilbert that used satiric devices later employed in his famous Gilbert and Sullivan operas? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On 21 December 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Pretty Druidess, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that The Pretty Druidess (1869) was the last of W. S. Gilbert's early operatic burlesques, written before the Gilbert and Sullivan operas? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

References: Sierra Leone Civil War

Thank you for your input/help so far! It's been instrumental and I have really enjoyed seeing the page improve over the past couple of days. --IR393.sae211 (talk) 05:13, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Flower Drum Song

Hey, sorry I missed all the fun! Congrats on getting such a great article to FA-status, and to the mainpage. I read part of it on my iPhone while traveling yesterday, and then of course I had to watch clips from the show on YouTube! Hope you have a happy holiday. :) María (habla conmigo) 13:37, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I have only just noticed, a week after everyone else, that the Ssilvers/Wehwalt article is the first Broadway musical to get to FA. Rather astonishing, but be that as it may, heartiest congrats. Tim riley (talk) 23:16, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

DYKs

On 29 December 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Merry Zingara, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that though his early burlesques, including The Merry Zingara, featured actresses performing male roles, W. S. Gilbert later renounced this practice? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On 1 January 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Harlequin Cock Robin and Jenny Wren, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the premiere of W. S. Gilbert's pantomime, Harlequin Cock Robin and Jenny Wren, was marred by "the want of sufficient preparation"? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

La plume du Ssilvers

A most unexpected and delightful treat. Bless you. I hope people are loading you with gongs for your astonishing range of WP work. If they aren't I shall have to learn how to do it myself. Tim riley (talk) 19:45, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Mantra-Rock Dance

Hello Ssilvers. It's a pleasure to have an excuse to contact you again. I have created the Mantra-Rock Dance article, and it seems to be poised for its DYK exposure due 11 January 12:00 AM (UTS). If the subject is at all of any interest to you, would you mind giving it a stern editorial look before that, at least for major blunders? I apologize for this very short notice, and am almost expecting you to turn the request down, but... PS: I am still working on a couple of last minor sections there, but they will be mostly quotes. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 22:13, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Ssilvers. Much obliged. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 23:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Your number has been chosen

I admire your work. Thank you for not accepting a nomination that you are not inclined to take. Keegan (talk) 19:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Paul Pyant

On 13 January 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Paul Pyant, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Paul Pyant designed lighting for the production of George Frideric Handel’s Xerxes at the Houston Grand Opera in 2010? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Napoleonic crown

I am much touched and honoured that you have been conspiring to get me this award. Bless you! As you did all the work on getting the DYKs to the front page, I feel doubly privileged. Tim riley (talk) 10:42, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations on this much-deserved badge. Your high-quality contributions to this encyclopedia, especially in neglected areas of the arts, make Misplaced Pages a far more important and useful reference source. -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:05, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Billie Carleton

Hi, thank you for smartening up the article on Billie Carleton, it certainly looks a lot better. I've tried to add page numbers to references as asked, but sometimes I'm quoting from the DNB article and it doesn't cite a page reference, e.g. for the argument by Kohn that Carleton died due to taking depressants (but it does call the argument 'convincing', which I should perhaps have copied?) I've based my article on the DNB, but I also skim-read some contemporary reports in The Times. There was some arguing in court as to whether Carleton died due to 'veronal', whether she was suicidal etc: I haven't mentioned this. Also I'm not sure De Veulle was a transvestite. I'd imagine he was, it would fit in well with his interests but from what I recall from The Times he was just accused in court of having shown someone a book on the subject. I'll check this. Lastly there are some exterior sites which explore the case from its different aspects, looking at contemporary attitudes to drug taking, gender preference, racial anxieties etc - should I link to these? Sometimes the facts as cited on them are slightly at variance with the DNB, which I've preferred as a source.RLamb (talk) 12:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

SAQ

Ssilvers, note that you are now mentioned personally here. Poujeaux (talk) 09:35, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for John Fryatt

On 19 January 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Fryatt, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that English actor and opera singer John Fryatt co-wrote a Gilbert and Sullivan pantomime adaptation entitled The Sleeping Beauty of the Savoy? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Carousel

Thank you, that was a very nice support. One thing--BB has raised a question at the FAC about musicals101.com Do you think you could explain why it is a high quality reliable source? I could attempt it but I suspect you'll do a better job, if I could prevail on you.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:06, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. That was very helpful.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:06, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

The King and I and Allegro (musical)

I have listed The King and I at GAN. It is a little skimpy in a few places, like it could use a few reviews for later production. Any help would be appreciated.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:02, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I've been working on Allegro (musical) which is a bit difficult as I've never seen the piece (who has?) or listened to the score. Your comments would be very welcome. After this I think I am going to step back from this topic and benefit from the comments as these pass through at least part of the process, while uneasily eyeing South Pacific.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:08, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK nominations

See Pgallert (talk) for nominations. Give suggested hooks. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:57, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Off- v Off Broadway

Thanks for your note. I added my input and another resource to the discussion. MarnetteD | Talk 01:02, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, Ssilvers, for your helpful contributions to The Mystery of a Hansom Cab. Much appreciated. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 15:09, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Victorian burlesque and Burlesque

Thanks for the note. I voted for Victorian burlesque. The article looks fine. However, I feel that Burlesque needs trimming: severely reduce duplication of stuff that's in the demerged article, get rid of people like WS Gilbert, Planché, Mme Vestris et al who belong in the other article, get rid of blank space, etc., but as I have less than zero interest in American burlesque, I don't feel like doing any of this myself. Best. --GuillaumeTell 11:33, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Delius thanks

Ssilvers

Please accept this star as a token of thanks for your help in getting Frederick Delius to FA standard. This was truly the work of many hands, and your particular contribution was much valued. Brianboulton (talk) 21:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the updates and your kind offer. I really love musicals but I don't know how much I could contribute. When I have enough time I'll check the project out. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 22:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

FYI

For what it's worth, I did offer an alternative proposal relating to Smatprt in the arbitration case, but it didn't get any votes. (See Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Shakespeare authorship question/Proposed decision#Remedies if you're curious.) P.S.: Unrelatedly, you were great at the performance last night. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:35, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

The King and I

Please comment on the ongoing GAC talk page at Talk:The King and I/GA2‎. I don't want to pass something when I shouldn't. Also, we are having ongoing discussions about the revivals content there while you are having discussions about it at the article talk.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:55, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Please help me understand content that should be WP:PRESERVEd. I am certainly willing to hold up a GA for removal of content included in IBDB. I just need someone to make sure I am aware of what is missing.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

If you feel there is work needed, the talk page of the article would be a good place to detail such shortcomings.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:56 am, Today (UTC−5)

I have described it all on the talk page. I am referencing the notable names for the productions section, as Tony requested. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:28, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

In terms of reference formatting, I would like to see wikilinks for notable sources.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

When the article goes to FAC, I will ask you to join as conom.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I am not really involved in the article any more. Yo u don't need me to approve everything. I would consider a reinstated GAC, but unless that is requested by the nominator, I will not be reviewing the article. I.E., if he renominates the article at GAC or another person does so, I will not review it. Also, if he goes straight to FAC or just decides to avoid review altogether at this time, others will be handling future reviews.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think it is essential, actually that Ssilvers join as conom to whatever version of the article we finally agree on can be nominated, both to show that editing issues have been settled and because I am not free to nominate solo until Me and Juliet clears the page, which will not be for a couple of weeks, I expect. As I've stated, I still want to get this to FAC in the hopes of a TFA on March 30. Tony, you are free to review or not review, or to comment as you see fit.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Finale

Have a look at Talk:Finale, if you haven't already. I was thinking of starting a Finale (stage works) article and contributing a section on opera (based on Grove). An operetta and a musical theatre section would be needed as well - it's not my province, but would you be interested? If not, any suggestions? --GuillaumeTell 16:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Musical theatre

The more that I look over them, the more I'm leaning toward removing the entire External links section. I've retagged the section and started a discussion. Please note I'm ignoring WP:ELBURDEN for the moment, hoping you'll appreciate the gesture. --Ronz (talk) 22:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I regard what you are doing as disruptive editing, User:Ronz. You have also volated your agreement to wait through the weekend for more feedback. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Please stop trying to bully experienced editors into deleting links to sources that they find useful. Really, this is disgraceful. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:23, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I believe I'm following WP:DR, WP:CON, WP:CIVIL, WP:TALK, etc. If there's something I've written that you'd like me to refactor or clarify, I'm happy to do so. If there's something else to my editing that you don't like, I'm happy to discuss it with you. --Ronz (talk) 20:29, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, why don't you work on researching and writing some articles. That would be far more productive than finding links to guidelines and essays to post on everyone's talk page. On your talk page you talk about how you don't like Wikibullies, but here you are, being a wikibully. It doesn't matter if you are polite; what you are doing is no longer productive. You have succeeded in making us all drop what we were doing and examine the links, and we deleted eight of them and like the remaining ones. So, you are finished. Time to stop. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:49, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I realize you have taken some offense to some of the comments I've made on your talk page. I'll do my best to be concise, follow WP:TALK, only comment on important concerns (matters of policy or the like), and only use your talk page when other forums would be inappropriate. --Ronz (talk) 19:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Requested Ronz (again) to stop posting on my talk page

Please stop posting to my talk page. I do not want to receive any more messages from you for any reason. You are a wikilawyer and a bully, and from what I have seen, you do not actually do any useful editing on this encyclopedia. You are either the biggest hypocrite I have encountered on Misplaced Pages in nearly five years, or you are so far in denial that you are unable to see the damage you are causing to the project. Do not post here ever again. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:20, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Please stop. Continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Misplaced Pages, as you did to Musical theatre, without resolving the problem that the template refers to may be considered disruptive editing. Further edits of this type may result in your being blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. --Ronz (talk) 17:53, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm happy to hold myself to no edits at all to Musical theatre for the next 24 hours, especially if it will get you to focus on actually resolving the disputes there. Of course, you can always take your accusations to WP:AIV, WP:WQA, WP:AN3, or WP:ANI as you see fit. --Ronz (talk) 20:11, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Really, just take your accusations to the proper forum. Thanks! --Ronz (talk) 01:13, 4 March 2011 (UTC)