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Hello.

Where are you from? --Rayesworied (talk) 05:47, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Where are you from? HOOTmag (talk) 00:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I am from in South Korea. --Rayesworied (talk) 08:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Semitic languages

I thought I'd better reply to your question on WP:RD/L#Leaving out the word "the" when English is not one's primary language here rather than continuing on the reference desk. I've studied many languages over the years, more out of an interest in how they work rather than to be able to speak or read them. As I was brought up vaguely Jewish, my experience of Hebrew goes back further than most languages: I can read it to a degree, but not really speak it. I have looked at Arabic, Amharic and Akkadian at various times, but never got very far into any of them.

On the subject of smikhut, I think it's interesting that many uses of this construction in Biblical Hebrew are not possessives, but would be translated into European languages as noun phrases with adjectives or attributives. --ColinFine (talk) 17:58, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

So why don't you mention Hebrew on your talk page, among French etc.? HOOTmag (talk) 09:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I see Russell Global Index is not internationaly list.

I see internationaly list only FTSE list and MSCI list. --211.179.112.25 (talk) 12:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you prove what you see? Why do you think that FTSE list and MSCI list are more "international" than Russell Global Index list? I see no distinction between these three lists, but if you think you can prove any such distinction, then we'll accept your opinion. HOOTmag (talk) 14:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Please edit emerging markets article

FTSE Group announcemented new global index (http://www.ftse.com/Indices/Country_Classification/Downloads/FTSE_Country_Classification_Sept_09_update.pdf). I have seen this and edited developed market and frontier markets. But I have created an account not over 3 days. emerging markets article is semi-protected article. --Cccbut (talk) 10:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. HOOTmag (talk) 21:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Rhotic accents

Replied. -- Flyguy649 20:09, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi again

After my last post, I realized that the conversation had veered far from the topic...anyway, I assumed US because nothing I saw you write gave me any clue that you use British (or other non-US) English. Of course, you may be from the US and living elsewhere, or I may be mistaken about your English, but it was just an assumption. I don't know why you have to be irreligious to live in South Africa, Ireland or Canada, but if you're irreligious you may also be from the US and posting on Shabbos. It's good to see your name isn't in red anymore, though your userpage still doesn't give me a clue... :) Keyed In (talk) 19:13, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Keyed In...

• Yep! You were really mistaken about my English: It's neither US-English nor British English, but rather "General English", and it must be, because I'm not a native English speaker, and I've never left the country I was born in, and my native language is that of my post here, and now you know where I am from. That's why I said that "As to me, it's always Shabbat Shalom"...
• Yes, "We wish we were in YIH"K (next year)", that's what every person of my nation (including me) says every year (on Passover).
• If you're Californian (as you indicate on your userpage), and now you're in YIH"K (as you've written in this thread), then: when did you make Aliya? (if ever, unless you're a tourist or a student etc.)
• Shavooah Tov.

HOOTmag (talk) 01:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Oops, I guess I was wrong then...but at least you don't use any of those strange Britishisms :). The truth is that when I saw your various posts at the WP:RDL I thought you were a non-native speaker, but after our conversation I thought you were a native. You speak (or at least write) English really well!

I have been studying here since mid 2006, but I have not made aliyah. I am on a student visa.

I was just wondering what you meant when you wrote (twice) "neither YIH"K nor BB"A". And why a religious person can't live in Ireland, Canada or South Africa.

כל טוב, Keyed In (talk) 07:14, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, I too don't like their weird Britishisms, but don't forget that also the Americans have got their own rubbish, and also the Israelis (e.g. how do they say: "cool"? מגניב...)
• If I had been a religious person living in South Africa or in Ireland or in Canada (or in Us), then how could I write on Friday at 16:37 GMT, i.e. on Shabbos (in those places)?
• If you still don't know what I meant by "neither YIH"K nor BB"A, it's Israel...", then what did you mean by your LOL after having read that? (Back to your question: What did I mean? Nothing important. Probably something like: "I don't live in YIH"K, nor do I have to hope: I wish I were in YIH"K, because I can visit there very often and quite easily...").
• Where do you study?
• Take care, good luck.
• יום טוב

HOOTmag (talk) 09:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

16:37 on Saturday (I assume that's what you meant) was indeed Shabbos in Canada, and South Africa since it's the summer there. But doesn't Ireland have approximately the same זמנים as the UK? You said "Why not the UK,...or, if I'm irreligious, Ireland..." :)

Actually, the LOL was an earlier post, after you were busy catching me on all my subjunctive inconsistencies...now it's all clear, though.

I am in a large hareidi yeshiva. It has its own wikipedia article. :)

Isn't יום טוב an Englishism i.e. literal translation of "Good day"? It doesn't sound like natural Hebrew to me... Keyed In (talk) 12:13, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• Yes, I meant Saturday.
• In Ireland, last Shabbos ended after 16:55. However, in some zones in UK, you could write at 16:37 (e.g. in Newcastle - last Shabbos ended at 16:29, in Leeds - at 16:35, and in Sheffield - at 16:36).
• Ok, not a LOL, but a ":)". After I wrote neither YIH"K nor BB"A, it's Israel..., you responded: ":) SS"U", right?
• Which Yeshiva ? ? אש התורה
• Yes, the Isrealis have adopted this Englishism of יום טוב. Further, you might also hear them say: "Bye" (in English) after they end a phone conversation (in Hebrew), and even: "you know" (in English) - while speaking in Hebrew! If David Hamelekh had been alive nowadays, he wouldn't have understood the Israelis, I'm sure... :)

HOOTmag (talk) 13:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, Ireland it is...

I smiled at the whole post, where you took me apart for my subjunctive vs. conditional moods...

Not אש. Any other guesses? :)

I have heard them say Bye (or more like Bai) many times. But I never heard y'know. דוד המלך wouldn't understand modern Hebrew even without its Englishisms, though. :) Keyed In (talk) 13:44, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

• I have no idea about where you study (there are too many options), and you don't have to answer if you find it embarrassing.
• Took you apart? LOL:) You began with your comment on my "I wish I was", then I just continued, y'know...
• "Bye" (or "buy") is used by all Israelis (who really pronounce the u in "buy" as you pronounce the u in "but"), whereas "y'know" is used (while speaking Hebrew) mostly by irreligious well-off Israelis (e.g. those who live in North Tel Aviv, and the like).
• You're definitely correct: דוד המלך wouldn't understand Modern Hebrew. But! he also wouldn't understand the language of קצות החושן and of שערי יושר...
• Which מסכת are you studying this year, and which מפרשים? I'm studying now נדה (just פשט גמ' ורש"י), and it's my last מסכת left before the סיום.
• Good luck.

HOOTmag (talk) 17:56, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

In the email I sent you, you may have to change the encoding to Unicode in order to read it. Keyed In (talk) 08:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I didn't have to change to Unicode.

I emailed you back.

HOOTmag (talk) 09:51, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

About your question...

Hi, HOOTmag. Sorry that i can't be of assistance with that, it's a bit over my head. I only edited that article because i found the "exactly" to be out of place, and i tried to see what's the real relation between the two statements. After doing that, i thought i might also share it with anyone else that might find it useful. But i only deduced stuff out from i had in the articles themselves, i wasn't speaking from previous experience. :-| -- Jokes Free4Me (talk) 14:32, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

If i had to guess, though, i'd say it can't really be expressed in PA, but it can be used to study PA consistency. Rereading the article, though, i see it says in the intro: "could be stated in the language of arithmetic", so my guess would have actually been wrong. Good luck finding the real answer.

All right. Thank you. HOOTmag (talk) 13:22, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Polish: monity

שלום, HOOTmag, with thanks for your speedy response to my query. But despite the smiley emoticon there, I was quite serious about Hebrew, or even Yiddish for that matter (both of which my colleague knows better than English). So if you'd like to offer an equivalent to the Polish in either of those languages, we're open! -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 11:03, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

If I use Kpalion's recent translation (which is much more authoritative than mine, because Kpalion is a native Polish speaker), then the Hebrew sentence should be: הוא לא השיב לאף אחת מהתזכורות שלנו, or rather: "הוא לא הגיב על אף אחת מהתזכורות שלנו".

HOOTmag (talk) 11:17, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Friendly 3RR warning

Please refrain from repeatedly undoing other people's edits, as you are doing in Exponentiation. It appears you may be engaged in an edit war. The three-revert rule (3RR) prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, please discuss disputed changes on the talk page. Thank you. Gandalf61 (talk) 14:49, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Please take your insertion of uncited original research of an uninteresting kind to the talk page if you wish to at least vaguely stick within the Misplaced Pages guidelines rather than just be considered a vandal. Dmcq (talk) 00:47, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

OECD

Hi, HOOTmag. I explained in more detailed in the OECD talk page what the Convention of the OECD says. If you read these pages you referred carefully, you see that they talk about the membership after acceding to the Convention, not after signing the accession agreement. Please see also the most recent accession case of Chile. The accession agreement was signed on 11 January but it became a member on 7 May. I kindly ask you to revert your edit adding scheduled signing dates – these are not accession dates. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 19:25, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not see you already revert. My apologies. Beagel (talk) 19:26, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

WP:Reference desk/Mathematics

Hello, HOOTmag. This revision is rather odd, removing other users replies and a whole section. I had to undo it, but you can make the changes you intended to make again. I assume this was due to a server glitch - if you notice this a lot, you should probably make an enquiry at WP:VPT. Intelligentsium 17:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I've made the changes I'd intended to make. HOOTmag (talk) 18:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Riddles on RD

I have noticed your tendency to post riddles you've made up and ask others to discuss it on the RD. Recently, you mentioned that the RD "welcomes" riddles. That is not true. Your repeated attempts to stir up a discussion on the RD is not welcomed. The reference desk is for collecting references, not for discussing riddles you've made up. If you want a reference about riddles or a reference about a certain type of riddle, please ask away. Just trying to get discussions going is for a discussion forum. -- kainaw™ 02:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I've responded to you at this discussion. HOOTmag (talk) 09:49, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Relevant to Kainaw's comments above (with which I agree, btw), you should be aware of this discussion of another aspect of your riddles - the hiding of some responses, which I also find inconsistent with the RefDesk. -- Scray (talk) 05:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I've just responded to you ibid. HOOTmag (talk) 09:49, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Old City (Jerusalem)

You do realize you just called the edits of two quite active editors vandalism, which I consider a WP:NPA, and that you reinstated the edits made by a banned user. You may want to rethink that. Passionless -Talk 21:46, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

You deleted correct information backed by a source, and this is a clear vandalism. Next time don't delete sourced information. HOOTmag (talk) 21:55, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

So you are willing to take responsibility for these edits which misrepresent their sources, add information which is irrelevant to the topic for the purpose of POV pushing, and the removal of information that israel is occuping east jerusalem, again for POV pushing reasons. And there are many cases where sources can be removed and not be vandalism, this is clearly one of them. Please assume good faith, Passionless -Talk 22:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

If you think these edits misrepresent their sources, or the information added is irrelevant to the topic for the purpose of POV pushing, please explain on the talk page why you think so; but your deleting the sourced infornation without explaining on the talk page why these edits misrepresent their sources, or why the information added is irrelevant to the topic, is a clear vandalism. HOOTmag (talk) 22:21, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Notice

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