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*Perhaps these are all MoS issues. Maybe a WikiProject is not the right forum for this? --'']]'' 03:02, 8 March 2011 (UTC) | *Perhaps these are all MoS issues. Maybe a WikiProject is not the right forum for this? --'']]'' 03:02, 8 March 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Please take a look at ]. Many of the issues here are very similar to the ones there. Some examples: | |||
:#Should ], when used in historical context, refer to India, Pakistan and Bangladesh or is the term ] more appropriate although that term did not exit for more than 99% of history. | |||
:#Should Misplaced Pages have the {{tl|Indian English}} template at all? | |||
:#Since all Indian editors voted to move the article ] to ], is this a case of ]? If so, how is it resolved: | |||
::Data from Ganges move: | |||
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|+Geographical locations of editors who voted in the Ganges to Ganga move debate | |||
! Position!!Location!!Number | |||
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|rowspan=3|Against Ganga (23)||India||0 | |||
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|West||13 | |||
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|Unknown||10 | |||
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|rowspan=3|Support Ganga (13)||India||6 | |||
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|West||2 | |||
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|Unknown||5 | |||
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|Neutral (1)||Unknown||1 | |||
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|Total votes (36)||||36 | |||
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Description
Several India related nomenclature discussions are repeated on the talk pages of different articles often making the same points and duplicating effort. For example in the last week or so, I've seen the following discussions, all relating to the naming of Indian cities, an Indian river and the use of the term India versus South Asia.
- Renaming of Bangalore to Bengaluru on the talk page of the 2011 Cricket World Cup article.
- The same Bangalore-Bengaluru topic is seen on the talk page of the Bangalore article itself.
- More than a year back there was a discussion about India v. South Asia nomenclature and we see the same, lengthy discussion today at an entirely different article.
- The use of the {{Indian English}} template being discussed in multiple locations is yet another example. Another related topic is the proposed deletion of the Indian English article.
- The renaming of Ganges to Ganga has been discussed on more than one occasion in the last few months.
- The renaming of the article on Gandhi from Mohandas Gandhi to Mahatama Gandhi has been discussed in the past and is likely to come up again.
- All of the major Indian cities have been renamed by the Indian government, examples include Bombay to Mumbai, Calcutta to Kolkata, Madras to Chennai and so on. Infobox entries are often challenged for all of these articles and this is likely to continue for the next several years.
- I am sure several other examples can be uncovered, given that category:India is a container category with 24 sub-categories and there are thousands of articles in the category.
A project that focuses on addressing these issues at one central location will eliminate these multiple discussions. Once consensus is reached at project level, we can define a few key guidelines which editors can refer to when faced with a choice of using one name over the other. Zuggernaut (talk) 04:22, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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- Perhaps these are all MoS issues. Maybe a WikiProject is not the right forum for this? --Kleinzach 03:02, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- Please take a look at talk page of a similar task force. Many of the issues here are very similar to the ones there. Some examples:
- Should India, when used in historical context, refer to India, Pakistan and Bangladesh or is the term South Asia more appropriate although that term did not exit for more than 99% of history.
- Should Misplaced Pages have the {{Indian English}} template at all?
- Since all Indian editors voted to move the article Ganges to Ganga, is this a case of systemic bias? If so, how is it resolved:
- Data from Ganges move:
Geographical locations of editors who voted in the Ganges to Ganga move debate Position Location Number Against Ganga (23) India 0 West 13 Unknown 10 Support Ganga (13) India 6 West 2 Unknown 5 Neutral (1) Unknown 1 Total votes (36) 36