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AfD

Based on what I've seen from you on AfD, I think that you might have something to add to the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Cart00ney. I'd appreciate you weighing in on the matter in either direction. Savidan 19:40, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the invite, I went and looked, and I don't see anything I could add to the current conversation there. If I can find time, I may look into it further and add anything I find about the subject. KillerChihuahua 12:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Hope you get it worked out.

Hope you get your RL issues worked out. ⇒ SWATJester Aim _Fire! 23:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Ditto, big time. Jim62sch 23:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks much, things are looking up a bit. Now, once I get my motherboard in, things should be back to normal. :) KillerChihuahua 15:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I third that wish. :-) -Kyd 15:57, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks Kyd. :) Good to know one is missed. KillerChihuahua 20:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

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hey! glad you thought that my addition was cu73! if you need to talk, go 4h34d, send me a m3ssag3.

go, U54!

ch33rs!

Chef Clover 03:11, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Noah's Ark featured article candidate

Hi KC

I'd like to put up Noah's Ark as a candidate for featured article. Since you've taken a recent interest in it, I thought you might like to have another look to see if there are any further tweaks you'd like to make to that end. Cheers PiCo 12:33, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Please, please please.  ;) Jim62sch 12:45, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

KC: I've put up the nomination. If you want to vote, go to Misplaced Pages:Featured_article_candidates and scroll down till you find the article link. Whether you support or object to the nomination, you need to explain your vote in terms of whether the article meets all the criteria for FA (to be found at the top of the page). PiCo 12:07, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

E-mail

Your email account is bouncing emails I send to you - error given is:

<<< 554-: (RLY:CH) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554rlych.html <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable This is an issue with my email service, I think, and I will see what I can do about it.

Did you try my other address, just to verify which is having the problem? Jim62sch 12:45, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Send me an email from your alternate address pls? thanks - KillerChihuahua 12:51, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Date links

Since you have previously taken an interest in links. Please be kind enough to vote for my new bot application to reduce overlinking of dates where they are not part of date preferences. Thanks. bobblewik 20:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Can you boot anon again?

The anon User talk:152.163.100.133 has had 3 warnings again, and he just deleted all of the warnings on his talk page today, against vanadlism policy, even though I warned him on February 4th. Can you boot him again? Travb 09:34, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

It is an AOL ip, so the most I can generally block for is 15 minutes. I am terribly sorry, just keep reverting any vandalism. KillerChihuahua 12:02, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

RfC?

GE is back at Abortion. Do you think it's at last time to RfC? -Kyd 11:47, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Not yet. But it would be a good idea to start a page and collect diffs from the previous periods of activity, so if GE starts being disruptive again we are ready to file one. KillerChihuahua 12:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the input; as always, I appreciate it. WP:DFTT instead? Quasipalm assembled a list of all of GE's suspected sockpuppet IP addresses on his Talk page. I'm sure, in any event, it'll help. Logging off for today. -Kyd 13:06, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Shiloh Shepherd Dog

Thank you for protecting the page. As you can see, between the time that I made the request and the time that you protected it, the revert wars continued. Robert McClenon 13:09, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem. Good luck in achieving a reasonable consensus on this issue. Or, failing that, good luck with Arbcom reaching a quick decision. KillerChihuahua 13:10, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Myths

Hi KillerChihuaua,

The word myth may have several meanings (hence the disambiguation page). Only the academic one deals with supernatural incidents.

On pages linking to myth, often the term Rumor (may be correct or false) or Falsehood would be more appropriate. Hence, I think that a risk of confusion is given and meaningful disambiguation should take place.

Which disambiguation pages would you propose for the following (non-academic, common language) meanings of myth? Here are my suggestions:

• a fact of known falsehood -> Lie, Falsehood
• a fact with uncertain correctness -> Rumor
• a story with uncertain correctness -> ??? (Rumor)
• a story which proved to be false -> urban legend

Of course, one could state that these are covered in the wiktionary - but when there are articles in the wikipedia dealing with rumors and lies, I think that listing them reduce the risk of confusion.

What do you think? -- Ravn 14:38, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Pasted to Talk:Myth and answered there. KillerChihuahua 15:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi, if someone makes edits that are clearly vandalism please use {{subst:bv}}, then we can get them blocked quicker if they continue. Thanks Arniep 18:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Now that brings back memories. FWIW, I'm not so hot on {{bv}} either. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:11, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I generally use subst, although I rarely use bv. In fact, I attempt to avoid it. No sense biting someone who might be able to become a solid contributor. What page did I fail to use subst on, Arniep? KillerChihuahua 18:15, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I think he meant the bv, not the subst... "then we can get them blocked quicker if they continue" —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

He changed the message I left, and LEFT MY SIG! That's vandalism itself.

To Arniep: Arniep, if you want to leave your own warning, do so. do NOT edit my post; that is vandalism. You left MY sig attached to a warning I did NOT leave. Do NOT ever, ever, do this again. Thanks.

Copying to Arniep's talk page also, this is insupportable behavior. KillerChihuahua 18:18, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

(after edit conflict) Ok, that's done... Yes, Bunchofgrapes, I concur - I'm not a big fan of bv. I have used it on Beckjord ips. Gastrich socks I simply block and list. I almost never think bv is a good idea. I've had some horrible vandals get sucked in and become productive editors, which IMHO would not have happened had they gotten bv as a first taste of WP welcoming committee. It often isn't even AGF; its a kind of policy of mine. More like Chance at Redemption, if you will. KillerChihuahua 18:32, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, sorry if you took that as an attack, I'll just add my own template in the future. I don't think a user who adds the text Credited with leading the killing of George Washington in 2031 to Simón Bolívar is likely to be a solid contributor in the near future so a more serious warning is appropriate, otherwise it potentially wastes a lot of time for other contributors reverting more vandalism before the user is blocked. Regards Arniep 18:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Its not an attack. I didn't "take it" as an attack. I saw vandalism, and called you on it. Please read WP:VAND before you preach at me. Editing another user's signed post is vandalism. Don't do it. I don't care if you disagree with me on whether a user will ever be useful or not; I don't care if you like bv, which I usually think is a very bad idea. I'm fine with differences of opinion. I am not fine with you vandalising my posts. Do not ever do it again. If I am in any way being unclear that this is not about a difference of opinion, but rather about your vandalism of my post, please let me know. KillerChihuahua 18:32, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi I obviously would never change a comment by a user anywhere else. I didn't really think that applying a more serious template on a vandal's talk page could be considered vandalism but if it is described so by Misplaced Pages policies that is fine. Arniep 19:05, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

(after edit conflict)You state that you would "obviously never change a comment by a user anywhere else". I find it not obvious; I make no assumptions about what you would or would not do in other circumstances. I merely address that which is, rather than speculating about what might be. I also find it odd that you expect me to AGF about your clear vandalism of my signed post; yet are so dismissive of other's edits as bv when at least two experienced admins disagree, and disagree fairly strongly, with you. Perhaps you might consider examining your own bias. KillerChihuahua 19:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi I see you removed my bv warning template. I've readded {{subst:verror2}} which seems to be a better template to use in these instances (more at Misplaced Pages:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace) Regards Arniep 19:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, my warning is more descriptive as to what the user actually did. If you think your warning is extraneous you are free to remove it. Thanks Arniep 19:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, my warning was there first. You are adding a pile-on warning when there has been only one instance of vandalism. Do not do this. You cannot add a second warning and then patronizingly tell me I can remove mine if I want - the error is yours in adding the second warning. I cannot believe you are warring about making sure a "meaner" warning is on that poor newbie's page than the one I left. Back off. KillerChihuahua 19:55, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I think where a user feels that a warning added by another user does not reflect the nature of the edit that user is free to add a more appropriate template. I frequently see very serious vandalism which only has a test1 template, the user then goes on to vandalize for hours wasting a lot of people's time in reverting, and many times where their vandalism is reverted the people doing the reverting do not post a next level warning on the user's page. This is why we should start from the second level for deliberate misinformation as per the table on Misplaced Pages:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace. Thanks Arniep 20:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

And you are free to start with test2 if you wish. I choose not to do so.

Andymac.mac has not gone on to vandalize further, and you are inappropriately adding an additional warning. Do not lecture me, and do not post a second warning when there has been no second instance of vandalism. It is misleading and just plain wrong. KillerChihuahua 20:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I felt you started at a too leniant level. I am free to post a warning which I think is more appropriate regardless of whether there has been more vandalism. Thanks Arniep 20:23, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I just wanted to say sorry for jumping on you personally, really I should have just taken it to straight to the pump as I am pretty sure our current system isn't working efficiently. Regards Arniep 00:00, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate the apology, and offer this thought: efficiency is not always the best goal. It is efficient to practice the slaughter of severely disabled children, for instance: They cost a lot of money and effort, and almost never return that cost to society. But is it the best course of action? KillerChihuahua 00:43, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I just think we waste too much time needlessly reverting vandalism or posting test messages when we could be actually improving this encyclopedia. Regards Arniep 15:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Stop posting messages on editors' talk pages stating your opinion as though it were policy. Rephrase, if you are planning to continue your campaign to get people to use bv more often, against general consensus, against WP:BITE, and against the opinion of most, if not all, admins. KillerChihuahua 16:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

That post was ddated 19th Feb. Arniep 01:42, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

RFPP

About my request for protection of my page, it's my userpage, and I don't appreciate people just editing it without my notification! The Republican 00:38, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

What? What are you talking about, please clarify this post. KillerChihuahua 00:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Quick question regarding rollback

Is there any way to do a rollback without being an admin? Justin Eiler 04:16, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Sure, manually save an old version of a page, hand-writing the edit summary. Why do you ask? KillerChihuahua 05:25, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Because that's a multi-click aggravation, and I'm lazy. :D

Seriously, most of what I do right now is countervandalism. I was looking to see if there was an easier way to mop the floors. Justin Eiler 05:29, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah, there is the popup tool. Misplaced Pages:Tools/Navigation popups. Have fun, remember to use it only in case of vandalism not content disputes. KillerChihuahua 05:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Sounds cool--thanks! Justin Eiler 05:32, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. Quick request: Please remember to use edit summaries, thanks much! KillerChihuahua 05:35, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Will do in the future. Again thanks--this is a great tool. Justin Eiler 05:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Again, you are welcome, and again, you didn't use an edit summary. :P - KillerChihuahua 16:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

For reverting the vandalism to my user page! -Kyd 15:35, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

My pleasure. Your talk page is on my watch list, as primary editor of the Abortion article you get more than your fair share of vandalism. I just happened to be the one who saw it and reverted it first, is all. KillerChihuahua 16:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Surprisingly, this is the first outright, malicious vandalism on either my Talk/uPage (I don't know if belligerent and largely unhelpful Talk page entries count as vandalism per se). And, even more surprisingly, it had nothing to do with my involvement in Abortion -- it was due my reversion of vandalism to an article while on RC patrol almost a month ago (A snail's riposte? These two acts of vandalism are the only edits in the user's history). -Kyd 18:22, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

The worst action of vandalism I have ever suffered came from reverting vandalism as well. I think mine was a wee tad faster on the response (a month? wow.) Oddly enough, a revert on Abortion got me vandalized on my uPage, but it was odd - they simply upped my counter one. Which led to a small revert war on my page, actually - the addition was reverted as inaccurate, then re-reverted with the summary that either there had been vandalism, and it was accurate, or this was the vandalism, so either way, accurate. I missed it all. KillerChihuahua 19:05, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for your support in my request for adminship. I'm delighted that the RfA succeeded with a final consensus of 52/17/7, and receiving comments including having 'excellent potential to become a great moderator', and I am now an administrator. It did however only just pass, and I shall do my very best to rectify any of my errors, including the general belief that I should do more article work. If you have any concerns, or if you ever feel that I may be able to help you, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Again, thank you!

OTOH

I can only hope we're in the right bar! Now, if only I can figure out how to fix my sig so that I can link "TCF member" to the appropriate subpage ;) Arch O. La | TCF member 21:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I've synthesized the jokes into a comedy routine! I've noticed your interest in TCF. I wanted to tell you that I've created a page collecting the discussions that led to The Centrist Faction (it was confusing having them scattered across four talk pages!) Now to fix my signature... Arch O. La | TCF member 01:53, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Deletion log

I don't remember saying it was the nominator's fault. But if I did, I guess I'll clear this up and end it now. I'll make note of that. Эйрон Кинни (t) 20:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Previously, I didn't understand your point, but I see it clearly now. I realize you were correct, and I wasn't. My apologies. Эйрон Кинни (t) 02:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

No need, it can be confusing. Apparently I added to that confusion, but it seems all straightened out now. Thanks for the note! KillerChihuahua 02:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Thank you! Thank you for your support in my recent RFA. It passed 53/1/2 and I am now an administrator. I appreciate that some of you made exceptions to your usual requirements re length of service and so on because we've interracted positively in the past, or because of my credentials, so I will endeavour to use my new mop cautiously. I'm always open to feedback and gently constructive criticism. If you're not an admin and need some assistance do of course please let me know. Thanks again --kingboyk 00:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

P.S. If you are interested in The Beatles, User:Lar has asked me to tag on a little note advertising the creation of a new Beatles WikiProject that we are currently setting up. Please sign up and help.

Since you offered...

...to help would you mind taking a look at my recent batch of AFD closures? They're my first and I'd just like a second opinion that I haven't made a ballsup of it. Thanks! --kingboyk 00:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Answered on user talk page. KillerChihuahua 00:46, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Are there any blocking templates which don't refer to vandalism? I've placed a 1 hour block on User:65.96.160.248 for wiki stalking (Misplaced Pages:Blocking_policy#Disruption) and I can't find a template to leave on his page. The documentation is hopeless (I'll update it!) and there's not a lot in Category:User_block_templates. --kingboyk 00:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh yes indeed, use template:Block|reason. KillerChihuahua 00:46, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Vandals

If you look at my edits I do 9+ times out of 10 use the test warnings. Also, the blockings I requested on AIV were not for a single act of vandalism. I have been here long enough to know that admins don't block one-time vandals, unless of course they have been blocked many times recently. Please check you facts before explaining to me again something I already understand and do. The reason some of my warnings jumped immediately to test 4 or bv was because of my review of that IPs previous recent acts of vandalism; often to the same article that had been reverted and left unwarned by other lazy RC patrollers. Thanks. ¡Dustimagic! 03:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

My error I am sure, however the one which bothered me was "warned many times" and there were three warnings, two from October last year, and one from you, yesterday. All the vandalism yesterday was increments of silliness. , , and - similar edits to Vietnam and Russia. On the vietnam article they SELF REVERTED their most blatant edit - . We usually give pats on the head for that. None of this is bv material. Yet when we look at the talk page for the anon, there is 12 October 2005 warning, 27 October 2005 warning, and then 6 March 2006 you added bv? Nope. Not blatant vandalism. That's the PENISPENISPENIS vandal, or this. This is just mild silliness, thanks for biting. KillerChihuahua 10:31, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the cookie!

Hi, just want to say thanks for your support on WP:AN/I, and for the cookie, which I am now proudly displaying on my user page. A kind thought! By the way, I have to follow a sugar-free diet for the next four months, so I hope it was made with the almost identical (but much healthier) xylitol, recommended by Patrick Holford! Cheers. AnnH ♫ 12:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, this was a cookie-of-the-spirit, no sugar or calories at all!!! And you are more than welcome, I merely shared my view. KillerChihuahua 12:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

A topical thought: have a nice bit of crumpet, and this is just silly, don't look for deeper meanings...dave souza, talk 12:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

My talk page

I would appreciate if you don't wikistalk me. Thanks Arniep 15:12, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

And I would appreciate it if you don't make unfounded charges against me. KillerChihuahua 16:28, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

It's not unfounded. You intervened in an article dispute which a user posted about on my talk page so you are obviously watching my talk page which I would appreciate you didn't do. Thanks Arniep 22:58, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I intervened??? And there is no possible way I could have found it other than either a)watching your talk page (which since I have an unanswered message to you there I may indeed have your talk page on my watch list) or b) checking your contribs and following you around? You have an inflated view of my interest in you. That I have almost 6,000 edits and that Misplaced Pages, while not paper, is finite, would indicate that every now and then (and depending on editing habits, possibly much more often) we will be editing the same page. I have made one edit to that page, and it was not a change or reversion of any edit of yours. I strongly advise you to consider what WikiStalking is, and is not, before making this type of baseless accusation. KillerChihuahua 23:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Also remember, Arniep, that there are no secrets, no private pages, in Misplaced Pages. I have a number of userpages/talkpages on my watchlist, either because I have posted to the talkpages, or because I have backtracked a vandal to the pages and reverted vandalism there. Sometimes I read what gets posted, sometimes I'm too busy. This is not stalking anyone, but it sometimes alerts me to interesting things that I might have otherwise missed, and it occassionally alerts me to vandalism on a user's page that hasn't been reverted yet. If you want privacy, look for it off line. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury) 23:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Good point, Dalbury. Btw, this is what he is talking about when he says I "intervened." Rather silly accusation to give a fellow editor on Misplaced Pages, I usually say "contributed." KillerChihuahua 00:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm...does this mean that I am stalking you KC? To intervene in Dalbury's intervention on your talk page - oh horror of horrors. My guestimate is that 20% of the 3010 pages on my watchlist are user pages - I must be stalking 615.182481758248 (approx.) Misplaced Pages users!!!1! Guettarda 00:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Let's Get High And Edit Misplaced Pages

I say keep it blocked. Some vandals like to try to play mind games with administrators. Even if this guy isn't a vandal, the name is out of line. -- Curps 16:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Keep it blocked. This has been discussed at length on WP:AN. Why the need for further clarification? — Mar. 7, '06 <freakofnur_xture|talk>

He asked me to check, I am doing so. I am sorry if you find it an inconvenience. Its not much trouble for us and makes the decision definitive. KillerChihuahua 20:36, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I'd agree that the username is inappropriate. --Ixfd64 20:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you all so very much! I appreciate you taking the time to confirm this. I will reply to the user. KillerChihuahua 21:55, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Thanks for your support in my RFA. The final vote count was (66/2/3), so I am now an administrator. Please let me know if at any stage you need help, or if you have comments on how I am doing as an admin. Have a nice day! Stifle 17:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)