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:: Regarding the 58* IPs: I have stated that I posted in error under my IP on occasion (which every editor has done at one point or another). I cannot state with certainty that 58.162.252.236 and 58.162.245.148 are not specific instances. It is hard to tell at this date and the subject matter is ambiguous enough that authorship cannot be determined. However, neither were used as sockpuppets to bolster any sort of opinion, so the accusation is invalid. The rest of the 58* IP postings are neither mine nor sock puppets. I know for a fact that 58.162.251.204 is not mine because participation was after I stopped editing the Sarfati article because of the RfA, and the style of writing and topics of discussion are different.) I have freely admitted to knowing 58.162.255.242 . This user is not and was not a sock or meat puppet. This was a frustrated editor who went overboard in presenting issues, and who stopped editing that article upon my request. I cleaned up that mess with the help of the other editors and the RfC mediated by Durova. | |||
:: Regarding ]: DennisF and I were in conflict on the ] article, and his user talk page ] on my identity. This should be sufficient proof that he is not my sock or meat puppet. | |||
:: Regarding 220*: These editors may be the same person or not. None are my sock or meat puppets. Based on information from ], TPG has a cluster of proxies used by TPG 220.245.180. 130/131/133/133/134, and he is one of thousands that use that proxy (no implication against AL intended at all). TPG is 'one of Australia’s largest Internet and Network Service Providers (ISPs)' | |||
:: Regarding ]: I have had no contact at all with ] and this user is not my sock or meat puppet. ] 09:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
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2) Several anon IP posts have been used to lend support in discussions, plant misinformation, and make reverts on ] from United States - California where ] posts (IP 144.160.130.16 ). Following FM's logic of ''proximity by state'' in his accusations, all the following users must be considered his sock or meat puppets because they all resolve to California: | |||
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3) ] revealed his IP which resolves to Philadelphia (xxxx.phlapa.east.xxxx.net). ] made one article edit since joining, adding to the conflict on ], and the user page states 'Philadephia Flyers fan'. ] posted a suspected sock puppet box on Jim's user page which Jim removed . | |||
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This is a page for working on Arbitration decisions. It provides for suggestions by Arbitrators and other users and for comment by arbitrators, the parties and others. After the analysis of /Evidence here and development of proposed principles, findings of fact, and remedies. Anyone who edits should sign all suggestions and comments. Arbitrators will place proposed items they have confidence in on /Proposed decision.
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Edit warring
1) Edit wars or revert wars are considered harmful, because they cause ill-will between users and negatively destabilize articles. Editors are encouraged to explore alternate methods of dispute resolution.
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Disruption
2) Users may be banned or otherwise restricted for editing in a way that constitutes clear and intentional disruption.
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Writing about yourself
3) Editors should avoid contributing to articles about themselves or subjects in which they are personally involved, as it is difficult to maintain a neutral point of view while doing so. See Misplaced Pages:Autobiography.
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Sockpuppets
4) Abuse of sockpuppet accounts, such as using them to evade blocks, bans, and user accountability–and especially to make personal attacks or reverts, or vandalize–is strictly forbidden. See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppets.
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Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox
5) Misplaced Pages is not to be used for advocacy or self-promotion. See Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox.
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Meatpuppets
6) A new user who engages in the same behavior as another user in the same context, and who appears to be editing Misplaced Pages solely for that purpose, shall be subject to the remedies applied to the user whose behavior they are joining.
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Sockpuppetry & Meatpuppetry
1) Agapetos angel has used several suspected sockpuppets and meatpuppets to lend support in discussions, plant misinformation, and make reverts. These include User:Dennis Fuller, User:Phloxophilos, User:220.245.180.133, User:220.245.180.134, User:220.245.180.130, User:58.162.252.236, User:58.162.255.242 and User:58.162.251.204.
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- Regarding the 58* IPs: I have stated that I posted in error under my IP on occasion (which every editor has done at one point or another). I cannot state with certainty that 58.162.252.236 and 58.162.245.148 are not specific instances. It is hard to tell at this date and the subject matter is ambiguous enough that authorship cannot be determined. However, neither were used as sockpuppets to bolster any sort of opinion, so the accusation is invalid. The rest of the 58* IP postings are neither mine nor sock puppets. I know for a fact that 58.162.251.204 is not mine because participation was after I stopped editing the Sarfati article because of the RfA, and the style of writing and topics of discussion are different.) I have freely admitted to knowing 58.162.255.242 . This user is not and was not a sock or meat puppet. This was a frustrated editor who went overboard in presenting issues, and who stopped editing that article upon my request. I cleaned up that mess with the help of the other editors and the RfC mediated by Durova.
- Regarding User:Dennis Fuller: DennisF and I were in conflict on the Answers in Genesis article, and his user talk page speculates on my identity. This should be sufficient proof that he is not my sock or meat puppet.
- Regarding 220*: These editors may be the same person or not. None are my sock or meat puppets. Based on information from User:Alex Law, TPG has a cluster of proxies used by TPG 220.245.180. 130/131/133/133/134, and he is one of thousands that use that proxy (no implication against AL intended at all). TPG is 'one of Australia’s largest Internet and Network Service Providers (ISPs)'
- Regarding User:Phloxophilos: I have had no contact at all with User:Phloxophilos and this user is not my sock or meat puppet. agapetos_angel 09:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
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2) Several anon IP posts have been used to lend support in discussions, plant misinformation, and make reverts on Jonathan Sarfati from United States - California where User:FeloniousMonk posts (IP 144.160.130.16 ). Following FM's logic of proximity by state in his accusations, all the following users must be considered his sock or meat puppets because they all resolve to California:
- User:24.23.142.32 Contribs
- User:66.81.128.86 Contribs
- User:66.81.141.123 Contribs
- User:69.19.150.170 Contribs
- User:69.19.150.235 Contribs
- User:70.182.0.5 Contribs
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3) user:Jim62sch revealed his IP which resolves to Philadelphia (xxxx.phlapa.east.xxxx.net). user:Rainbowpainter made one article edit since joining, adding to the conflict on Jonathan Sarfati, and the user page states 'Philadephia Flyers fan'. User:Duncharris posted a suspected sock puppet box on Jim's user page which Jim removed .
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Discourtesy
2) Agapetos angel has frequently misrepresented herself and others, engaged in personal attacks against other editors, and been generally uncivil.
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Writing about yourself
3) Agapetos angel has contributed to articles in which she is personally involved and has failed to maintain a neutral point of view while doing so. See Misplaced Pages:Autobiography.
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- Agapetos angel acted with admirable fairness on Answers in Genesis. Durova 20:05, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Disruption of Jonathan Sarfati
4) Agapetos angel disrupted the Jonathan Sarfati article through edit warring and repeated 3RR violations.
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Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox
5) Agapetos angel (and her sockpuppets/meatpuppets) has used Misplaced Pages as a vehicle for promotion of a particular view of Jonathan Sarfati and Answers in Genesis.
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- I strongly object to that characterization regarding Answers in Genesis and mildly object to it regarding Jonathan Sarfati. See my other coments. Durova 20:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Tendentious editing
6) Agapetos angel and her sockpuppets/meatpuppets have engaged in many sustained agressive edit wars in an attempt to rewrite Jonathan Sarfati to fit their point of view.
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Agapetos angel banned from certain articles
1) Agapetos angel is banned from editing Jonathan Sarfati, Answers in Genesis and any articles related to Creation Ministries International.
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- I object to a proposed ban on Answers in Genesis. This and other users' reaction to RfC was so positive and productive that I awarded a collective barnstar. The conflict at Jonathan Sarfati in no way affected that reward, since I learned about it afterward. Durova 20:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
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