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Actually, we've moved on the discussing something only partially related to Misplaced Pages, so i'll have to come back to you later. However, hopefully we can communicate our concerns and views to each other rather never ending brinksmanship. <font color="#4682B4">]</font><font color="#00FF00">]</font><font color="#E32636">]</font> 19:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC) Actually, we've moved on the discussing something only partially related to Misplaced Pages, so i'll have to come back to you later. However, hopefully we can communicate our concerns and views to each other rather never ending brinksmanship. <font color="#4682B4">]</font><font color="#00FF00">]</font><font color="#E32636">]</font> 19:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:The big difference between real-life American get-out-the-vote campaigns and doing it on Misplaced Pages is that ''America is not an encyclopedia''. We have one community-supported goal here, and building a better wikigovernment is not it. &mdash;] (]) 19:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC) :The big difference between real-life American get-out-the-vote campaigns and doing it on Misplaced Pages is that ''America is not an encyclopedia''. We have one community-supported goal here, and building a better wikigovernment is not it. &mdash;] (]) 19:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:: It is necessary to build a better wikigovernment because as you have seen many, many times, people don't always agree on what is "better" for the encyclopedia, and then arguments arise until one side threatens the other(usually without reasoning in the pathethic excuses for rules that guide what we do here to avoid things like this and claiming a "consensus" that cannot be shown), as you are doing now. If people such as yourself continue to act as you are now, Misplaced Pages will eventually collapse upon itself. The Arbcom is a ], any injunction would mean nothing since they have no laws to stand upon that aren't either paradoxical or ignored, such as is the case here. If I find it productive to do what I was doing before, I will continue to do so. If I don't, I won't. <font color="#4682B4">]</font><font color="#00FF00">]</font><font color="#E32636">]</font> 19:59, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

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Re: BMT Sea Beach Line

Hey Eddie, this edit to BMT Sea Beach Line, replacing crossover switches with exicornt switches, comes from an IP address that you've done a lot of editing from. (In fact, all the edits from the IP appear to be yours. contribs) What is up with that? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I realized My mistake. I created a wiki on My computer and I wanted to import that version's text into My computer, but I realized I clicked Misplaced Pages's save buttion. Although it's reverted. I'd like You to delete that revison (delete the page and restore all the other revision except that one) You have the ability to do so. -- Eddie, Tuesday March 7 2006 at 18:07 18:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm glad it was a mistake; I know you've been playing around with local wikis, so that makes sense to me. Hmm. I'd like to get some other admins' opinions on deleting entries from the history for this purpose; I'm not sure it's neccessary or prudent. Anybody else watching this page have an opinion? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I just don't want people to oppose Me on trivial matters like that, since any page can be reverted. I'm only human, after all. -- Eddie, Tuesday March 7 2006 at 18:17 18:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I would agree with Bunchofgrapes that it is not neccesary to delete that edit. If you had started an edit war then that would be detrimental to your reputation. If you admit it is a mistake, and you do, then there is no problem. David D. (Talk) 18:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, history deletions are a bad business to get into, really only appropriate for cases where Misplaced Pages might get into legal trouble or when personal information has been revealed. It's fine that you made a mistake, Eddie, don't sweat it. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Aha, here's the conversation. :-) Good explanation, Bunchofgrapes. FreplySpang (talk) 22:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Well whatever You guys do, I have no further intent on discussing this subject further, as BMT Sea Beach Line was reverted and no further harm done. Let's move on now. -- Eddie, Wednesday March 8 2006 at 03:58

Barn star!

Thank you! —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for erasing the vandalism left by the many IPs on my user profile page. In recognition of your actions, I hereby award you with The Barnstar of Diligence. Keep it up! —Eternal Equinox
Thanks! It will go nicely to replace one I lost a while back! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 20:55, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
You lost a barnstar? Is that possible? —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Do you mean "prerogative"? I believe that you are referring to Hollow Wilerding? She no longer edits using the library references because of her impudence; it may have been her although it may not have been. Either way, congrats! —Eternal Equinox | talk 22:05, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Ah, caught in a spelling error, the shame, the shame... Anyway, thanks again. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

so wut

well u no wut it wasnt me and im really never on this account so wut are u goin to do boot me off???!!!??? stfu man i didnt doo nothin its just cuz im black!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scubaman129 (talkcontribs) 21:30, March 7, 2006 (UTC)

We're all the same color on the inside. Peace out. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Are we? Nevertheless, we all bleed and its the same colour of red. Or is it? Don't those royals have blue blood?David D. (Talk) 21:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Depends on whether its in a vein or an artery or something, right? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:41, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Only if you don't expose it to air. Of course, more to the point, we're all the same color on Misplaced Pages. Black text on a white background, or whatever your personal theme looks like. TCC (talk) (contribs) 21:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Rfa..

I've been nominated to be a Admin. Any advice ? Martial Law 00:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Hi Martial Law. I already voted in your RfA, where I also gave you some advice regarding the kinds of things I think you should do more of before you're ready for adminship. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 00:35, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Salt_pepper_grinders.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Salt_pepper_grinders.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Misplaced Pages because of copyright law (see Misplaced Pages's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Misplaced Pages are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator.

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you have questions about copyright tagging of images, post on Misplaced Pages talk:Image copyright tags or User talk:Carnildo/images. 04:09, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, yes, OrphanBot... kill it with fire. ;-) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 05:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

The References code style

Not too long ago you helped me in using the <ref> tag. On the Tinwiki, we are trying to work out how to standardize our citations. Do you know what is involved in establishing the <ref> tag format for new Wikis? I very much like the <ref> tag format, and want to introduce it early to our Wiki. Or perhaps you can point me out to someone that can help? Nygdan 14:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, I know it's a MediaWiki extension; see m:Cite/Cite.php. I know user User:Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote it, so he could probably answer any technical questions that the Cite.php page doesn't. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Mont Blanc Cake for Bunchofgrapes, because of the kind assistance given during a frazzled day! KillerChihuahua 03:36, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Good choice! The danish would have been disappointing. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Having one of those "off" days, and getting a little frazzled, so thank you so very much for your kind assist. I don't know whether to offer you a cup of tea, a crumpet, a cookie, a fluffy cat, or all of the above - tell me which! thanks again! KillerChihuahua 01:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

It's adminitis, maybe; it's going around, I've got a nasty case too. Something in the dessert line would be best. :-) (And you're welcome, but it was nothing.) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:32, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
The cake is simply voluptuous — I can smell the cake from here. I've checked its commons page and appears to be a Japanese cake. Their art of bakery is something unforgettable... --BorgQueen 03:56, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Their Iron Chefs are the best too. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

This user thinks it is ironic that thanks for supporting Cyde's successful RFA came in the form of a userbox.

Here's a userbox for you. --Cyde Weys 04:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I believe this polemical and inflammatory userbox is harmful to the community. Congrats, Cyde! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:53, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Cheese fly

I just read about the cheese fly and its associated cheese. Why did I not heed the warning on your user page? I am no longer hungry. Cheers! :) Isopropyl 02:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah. Here is another victim. --BorgQueen 10:39, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Get a can of RAID and throw out that cheese. Martial Law 05:06, 11 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Really, get a can of RAID (insect spray) and throw that cheese out into the garbage. Martial Law 05:31, 11 March 2006 (UTC) :)

If I ever announce an Italian vacation, remind me to avoid cheese while in Sardinia. KillerChihuahua 06:03, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Stick to the Pecorino; if someone offers to share any sort of "special" cheese... run. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 06:17, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
By the way, the military teaches in its survival schools that you will have to eat things that would make a maggot puke. This is in case one gets trapped behind enemy lines, as what happened to Captain Scott O. Grady, who ended up being shot down behind enemy lines in Bosnia. Martial Law 03:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Re.:Bigfoot Documentaries

Just citing material that was shown on the documentary channels. For some reason, these channels had began showing this material. On these, some bigfoot cases were profiled, incl. a hostile encounter, then the two positions were also featured, the pro-Bigfoot people's position and that of the "Skeptics", such as a guy who represented the Skeptical Inquirer, and one who appearantly was representing BFRO or some other organization. I've seen a report in which someone had taken a "pot-shot" at one of these things. Martial Law 05:03, 11 March 2006 (UTC) :)

A pot-shot is where you take your gun and shoot at a target, just like some people do to road signs in the US. I've personally seen the bullet holes in the road signs. Martial Law 05:05, 11 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Other than the hostile encounter cited (and dramatically re-created), some Bigfoot feces reports, the material found is similar to what is in Misplaced Pages. The 1958 incident was also recreated for these documentaries as well. Martial Law 05:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Where can I place this in the article ? Martial Law 05:29, 11 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Will comply. Martial Law 00:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Where can I place the reference to the Sci-Fi channel's Sasquatch movie reference ? The spoiler is that a rescue team encounters the monster while searching for survivors of a plane crash. It has aired on 3-11-06 @ 11pm EST/EDT on the Sci-fi channel AS a movie. Martial Law 00:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Based on your description, this is the 2002 movie The Untold (imdb plot summary), which IMDB says here was released in the US as Sasquatch (and in French Canada as Inexplicable). The Film and television secion already lists The Untold, but feel free and add "(Also released in the US as Sasquatch)" to the entry if it would make you happy.
On a more general note, I went out of my way to do this basic research (an imdb search) for you, but you should be able to do it for yourself if you are going to make positive contributions to the encyclopedia. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 00:32, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Added the movie material. It could use a clean up. Why is nearly all of the media airing this material ? Martial Law 02:16, 12 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Single malt Scotch

Hi Bunch, I was looking into the food and drinks section at FA, and was wondering if this article is truly comprehensive enough for a FA. And it has no inline citations. I would be curious to hear your opinion. --BorgQueen 14:45, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Having been promoted (one way or another) in 2004, I wouldn't expect, nor penalize it overmuch, for not having inline citations alone -- but I agree that it's noncomprehensive. The whole article boils down to an extremely anemic lead and three sections - an ok-but-chopped-up "production" section, a terse "history" and a brief nondescriptive list of Regions. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:00, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the insight. I've nominated it for removal: You are invited to discuss your view at Misplaced Pages:Featured article removal candidates/Single malt Scotch. --BorgQueen 16:27, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalised....

What is going on here ? Your three articles, such as pepper, butter, and cheese are being hard hit. Martial Law 03:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC) :)

No, they're not. Butter hasn't changed since March 10, Black pepper since March 8, and Cheese has it's usual level of vandalism (people think cheese is funny). Or are you talking about the historical repeated similar vandalism on all three from AOL IPs? If so, that's just Beckjord, the once proud Bigfoot-field-researcher turned petty-Misplaced Pages-vandal. Or maybe you're just noticing that most of the edits on those pages are vandalisms or reverts: that's because they are featured articles, fairly comprehensive and well-written, so not much article improvement is taking place there. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:58, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Just concerned. Martial Law 06:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Just as I expected

Even though you have no validity to do so under policy(which in itself is paradoxical), you threaten me anyway, per the norm at Misplaced Pages. Go ahead. Make me into a martyr. I'm browsing right now, but i'll go back to petitioning at my leisure. Karmafist 18:08, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm having a discussion with Talrias to see if there's a better way to prevent basically what you're doing right now, if doing what I used to be paid for at America Coming Together isn't going to work in the short term but something else might, i'll be happy to do so.

Actually, we've moved on the discussing something only partially related to Misplaced Pages, so i'll have to come back to you later. However, hopefully we can communicate our concerns and views to each other rather never ending brinksmanship. Karmafist 19:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

The big difference between real-life American get-out-the-vote campaigns and doing it on Misplaced Pages is that America is not an encyclopedia. We have one community-supported goal here, and building a better wikigovernment is not it. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
It is necessary to build a better wikigovernment because as you have seen many, many times, people don't always agree on what is "better" for the encyclopedia, and then arguments arise until one side threatens the other(usually without reasoning in the pathethic excuses for rules that guide what we do here to avoid things like this and claiming a "consensus" that cannot be shown), as you are doing now. If people such as yourself continue to act as you are now, Misplaced Pages will eventually collapse upon itself. The Arbcom is a Kangaroo Court, any injunction would mean nothing since they have no laws to stand upon that aren't either paradoxical or ignored, such as is the case here. If I find it productive to do what I was doing before, I will continue to do so. If I don't, I won't. Karmafist 19:59, 12 March 2006 (UTC)