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Beau Biden
Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Beau Biden, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. In addition, Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, and the information you are adding is not encyclopedic in nature, not to mention that you added duplicate information in your most recent edit. You also added commentary to the article that would actually belong on the article's talkpage. Add to this the fact that on your userpage you have made it known that you have an agenda against the Biden family, and it actually presents a dilemma of a potential conflict of interest. Atlantabravz (talk) 03:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Response to Biden issue
My responses are after yours that have been transposed from my talkpage for ease of understanding:
"I have nothing against the Biden family except he was a Draft Dodger that let some other less eligible, less qualified and probably less educated individual go to Vietnam in his place." This is called POV writing and is not neutral. This is not a blog or an op-ed page.
"He did everything short of maiming himself to dodge the draft and, if he hadn't been able to get a letter from his family physician "discovering" a disqualifying "illness" and made a big enough issue of it to get his induction cancelled, he might have tried maiming but I doubt he had the guts." This is slanderous and pure POV speculation.
"As a draftee from Scranton, PA, I have a little experience with how the draft worked and how physicals were conducted. Joe would have had to have made quite a stink to beat it. I took Joe's place in Vietnam and ended up serving an extended tour to make up for him not going!" This has already been dealt with, and you need to understand that your first hand anecdotal knowledge is not all-encompassing, nor is it properly sourced. That is just not the way Wiki works. The investigation by the reporter was done and you were advised on how to follow through with questions to him. I suggest you do so instead of using Wiki as a soapbox. See WP:SOAP for details on that.
"As for Beau, the entry on his page is INCORRECT but I notice you did not comment about that. Here is the truth: Beau Biden's unit did not arrive in Iraq in Nov 08, they arrive on 22 Dec 08, according to the Delaware National Guard official website (http://www.delawarenationalguard.com/home/new/content/dngnews/2008/Dec/261st/2008decDJvolume2.pdf )." You have been out of the military a long time if what you say is true. However, there is something called a "left seat-right seat ride", or changeover, that occurs when two units overlap in country that typically lasts 3 to 4 weeks. Therefore, the date of the handover was not the date of their arrival. However, I have removed it from the article since it was not properly sourced. Have you also never heard of OPSEC?
"He did come back TDY on 13 Jan 09, 22 days later according to Lt. Col. Len Gratteri, a Delaware Army National Guard spokesman. He said "CPT Beau Biden began a temporary assignment at the Pentagon on Thursday,15 Jan. Details about the assignment or how long it will last weren't immediately available" (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iSHFhLebRKfuSV_xdz1v...cY2sQD9 )." That article was not available when I clicked on it. You should find a better link for sourcing. It would also be appropriate for you to do some editing rather than commenting on talk pages involving the Biden family, which is bordering on you being a Single-purpose account. I suggest you read some of the articles about what Wiki is and try to contribute more positively to the project.
"Without Dad's help, he (and any other soldier) would not have been eligible for leave until midpoint of his tour. In Vietnam when someone had only been in Country 22 days we used to say he was "still pissing Stateside water!" Regardless, he did NOT come back on leave, he returned TDY which meant he flew back on "duty status" so had priority and bumped a soldier returning on R&R who would have been in-country between 6 and 7 months. Nice move Beau!" You gave more POV and opinions, but also offered more speculation regarding him "bumping" a soldier, which I can tell you from firsthand experience is more than likely false as he could have taken a commercial plane through Kuwait City which would not have interfered one bit with the R&R leave program. The difference is that I'm not trying to include anything in the article to dispute your accusations based on my personal knowledge, and you should cease making inferences about things for which you have no proof. Atlantabravz (talk) 12:25, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
March 2009
Please do not add content without citing reliable sources, as you did to Beau Biden. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Misplaced Pages:Citing sources please take this opportunity to add references to the article. This has already been discussed in the talk page for Joe Biden, where you were advised of proper sourcing of material among other things. Please use that advice. Atlantabravz (talk) 05:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
August 2010
Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Misplaced Pages about living persons, as you did to Tommy Lee Jones . Thank you. Kuru (talk) 23:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Talkback
Message added 20:42, 27 July 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
CutOffTies (talk) 20:42, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
July 2011
Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Misplaced Pages about living persons, as you did to Dutch Ruppersberger. Thank you. Sorry this warning is so late CutOffTies (talk) 18:11, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Draft dodger. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
In particular, Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring states:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue edit warring, you may be blocked from editing. CutOffTies (talk) 14:55, 30 July 2011 (UTC)