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==The 1996 movie== ==The 1996 movie==
Although it is widely rumored that Graves refused to play Phelps in the movie because of the changes made to the character, we need a reputable source to actually have this information on Misplaced Pages. Plus the use of the term "rape of the character" was completely an ] violation so I have removed it. (Unless someone can provide a source that verifies that Graves actually said this.) I've also heard that he wasn't cast simply because he was too old for the part. But, again, we need a source. ] 13:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC) Although it is widely rumored that Graves refused to play Phelps in the movie because of the changes made to the character, we need a reputable source to actually have this information on Misplaced Pages. Plus the use of the term "rape of the character" was completely an ] violation so I have removed it. (Unless someone can provide a source that verifies that Graves actually said this.) I've also heard that he wasn't cast simply because he was too old for the part. But, again, we need a source. ] 13:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

::Hi 68.146.47.196, One of Graves' former directors, Warren Chaney recited the same story when I was discussing Peter Graves with him. Chaney related that the film's producers had approached Graves and did offer him the role but he declined it for the reasons your writer stated. Given the Phelps character was portrayed by an actor near Graves' age, I would doubt the veracity of the "too old" rumor. Of course here is the problem - Chaney is a source but I am sure was never motivated to write about it. Even worse, I no longer know how to contact him. Reckon we were left where we started. ] (]) 18:38, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


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Scientific American

I think he used to host early episodes of the PBS Series Scientific American Frontiers

The 1996 movie

Although it is widely rumored that Graves refused to play Phelps in the movie because of the changes made to the character, we need a reputable source to actually have this information on Misplaced Pages. Plus the use of the term "rape of the character" was completely an WP:NPOV violation so I have removed it. (Unless someone can provide a source that verifies that Graves actually said this.) I've also heard that he wasn't cast simply because he was too old for the part. But, again, we need a source. 68.146.47.196 13:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi 68.146.47.196, One of Graves' former directors, Warren Chaney recited the same story when I was discussing Peter Graves with him. Chaney related that the film's producers had approached Graves and did offer him the role but he declined it for the reasons your writer stated. Given the Phelps character was portrayed by an actor near Graves' age, I would doubt the veracity of the "too old" rumor. Of course here is the problem - Chaney is a source but I am sure was never motivated to write about it. Even worse, I no longer know how to contact him. Reckon we were left where we started. Sinclairindex (talk) 18:38, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

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Death

I added a sniplet of info that said that him and two other cast members of Airplane! all died the same year. It's not trivial it's a standard fact. Leslie Nielsen died a couple of days ago, Graves back in March and Barbara Billingsley in October. But what confused me was that it was removed as "OR and trivial". Rusted AutoParts (talk) 14:41 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I see it as rather trivial as well. 3 actors that once appeared together in a movie died in the same year is mildly interesting, but not exactly in the same territory as Adams and Jefferson both kicking it on the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. Tarc (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Indeed: trivial. What you don't see, I think, is that many facts are entirely trivial. For instance, isn't it odd that Leslie Nielsen and Peter Graves both have first names consisting of two syllables, but Barbara Billingsley does not? Yes, that is not odd. And it wouldn't be much more remarkable if all of them had four-syllable first names. Now, if you find some printed reference that makes note of the fact that they all died in the same year, and states that this is indeed a remarkable coincidence, that's a different matter. Can you offer such a source? Drmies (talk) 20:38, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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