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== Farsi ==
I would highly recommend you stop using this term to describe other editors. While I do understand that it's a neutral term (and thus may be perfectly fine in the context of, say, an article), in some contexts it can still be taken as an insult. Look at it this way: Imagine I was in a dispute with another user, and they said to me, "That's exactly the kind of attitude I'd expect from an American." Now, it's true, I am an American, but in this sense, it's being said as an insult, trying to 'pidgeonhole' me into a sterotype. What I'm saying is that while you're probably not trying to insult them, it's pretty easy for it to be taken as an insult, so in general, it's probably safest to just not label other editors, even if it is a fairly accurate label. --] 01:44, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

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User Zmmz

I certainly don't have the language background to deal with your dispute with Zmmz, nor do I feel it's appropriate to do anything unilaterally. Check out our dispute resolution options and see if there might be a way to get a broader base of input into your conflict. (ESkog) 04:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, the dispute this and three others have is about the use of the Aryan, and Indo-Iranian used in many articles like the Persian people and alike. You could actually look up its definition in any dictionary, and encyclopedia, and I researched it personally too. It definitely goes to the Persians in this case, because the words are used in literature and their culture. But, it seems there is no end to the dispute, I really don`t think it`s of any use anyway. Some users are playing tune-def. Zmmz 05:16, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

By the way, Diyako do not erase warning messages, even on your own talkpage. That`s not good.Zmmz 05:22, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Your comments

In fact I am discussing with a racist Qashqai turk pasdar terrorist pro ahmadinejad who even do not recognize UN emblem and think it is PDK's Diyako Talk + 03:14, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

When I saw this comment on here I was disgusted to find out how un-civil you really are --Kash 11:35, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Advertising

Hi, I notice you've been advertising the Kurdistan CFD. Please don't do it in such an obvious way - it looks like you're seeking votes (which is what it is). Try not asking people to vote, just to have a look at the page in question and give their opinions. Judging by the users receiving your notes, that's what they would have voted for anyway. --Latinus 17:57, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I second this, please stop. --Kash 18:41, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Greater Iran

I noticed that you nominated this article for AfD. However, you did not list it on AfD, and it is currently orphaned. Is there a reason why? If you have a dispute about the article content/editors, perhaps you should see WP:DR.--Shanel 21:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Category:Kurdistan

I voted strong keep. Notice that Category:Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has a category. Carlossuarez46 23:40, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your voting.Diyako Talk + 08:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Turkish Kurdistan

Good you inserted the CIA source, it makes it all more authorative - and the former figures seemed well low! Bertilvidet 21:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey

I thought you might be interested in this. Aucaman 23:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Aw you guys are cute! :) --Kash 00:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
I didn't even look at the page..but now I see..aww I think some bits of both :) --Kash 00:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Kurds in Turkey

Thanks for compromising, I think this could be the start of a much better relationship between us on wikipedia. Ba sepas. --Kash 23:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Personal attacks

Please refrain from using labels such as "Farsi" or "Pan-Iranian" when referring to other users, as they may be construed as insults. Misplaced Pages has a very strict policy of no personal attacks, and users may be blocked if they do not keep that in mind. So please remember to remain civil while debating in the future. --InShaneee 00:58, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


Yes, you are right and since a while i've not used them, but really the word "Farsi" is not a bad word, this is the native and common name for modern Persians which even is used in English. I provided many references in the talk page of article Persian people.
Diyako Talk + 08:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Persian people

Hey could you keep a watch on this article and make sure the dispute tag remain in the section? Thanks. Aucaman 23:27, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Kurd stub

Have you seen?

--Mais oui! 05:54, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Diyako

The term isn't removed! We still have two full sentences dealing with usage. Your source redirects Arabian Gulf to Persian Gulf and subsequently makes note of Arab usage. That's exactly how it stood on our own page with my last edit. Marskell 16:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

RfC

Have you seen this? You can sign it if you agree with the statement. Aucaman 18:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


No, I had not seen it before. I signed it. Thank you for the message.Diyako Talk + 18:33, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Biji Newroz, hewal!

Very good, needed and fast work you did on the Newroz article. Please keep up the good work. Tomorrow I'll contribute some photos from the celebration in Stenbol. Ha det så bra, hälsninger Bertilvidet 17:23, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Please discuss in the talk page of Newroz before removing the dispute tag. Thanks --Kash 15:36, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit summary

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It is highly recommended that one fill in the edit summary field, as it makes it easier for you and your fellow contributors to understand what has changed, and is helpful when going through the history of the page.

Please see Help:Edit summary --Kash 15:43, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Norouz

Exactly, it shouldn't all be about the Persians. That's why I changed the introduction at Norouz to make it acceptable to all groups, including the Kurds. I got it from here. Let me know what you think. --Khoikhoi 21:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Would you like to do the merge? I feel that if I do it I'll mess it up. What do you think of the new intro? --Khoikhoi 21:15, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I don't think the Iranian editors will agree with you on this. I changed the intro to include the Kurds, so what makes the Kurdish version so different that it needs its own article? The Russian version of Christmas doesn't have it's own article. --Khoikhoi 21:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

The russion version of christmas has not its own article has nothing to with the Kurdish Newroz article. Kurdish Newroz is different than Farsi Norouz and deserves its own article. also farsi users have their own pov who may claim Adam and Eve were farsi or as they say Iranian. If you still think the POV of some farsis is more important for you then you can nominate the Kurdish Newroz for deletion. Sure there are more neutral wikipedians than you farsis.Diyako Talk + 21:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

But you haven't explained to me what makes the Kurdish version so different. Please do. And why do you keep calling them Farsis? Are you aware that this term is deprecated because it has Arab origins? It seems that you're doing it to provoke them. Have you seen the website No more "FARSI" !!! ? --Khoikhoi 21:33, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I looked at the article and I couldn't find it. Secondly, in the English language we use "Persians" to refer to them, not "Farsis". And what do you mean you know me? --Khoikhoi 21:42, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


There was a warning issued about the use of "Farsi" and I think you are trying to be disrespectual and provactive with the term Farsi and Farsi Noruz. COnsider this a warning. Secondly there is no such thing as Farsi Noruz. There is only one Noruz which is celebrated by all Iranian people and people of Iranian culture. You stated Nevruz was similar to Noruz. NO IT IS NORUZ, just in another language. 69.196.139.250 21:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm neither Turkmen nor Kazak, I do not knwo much on the turkic nevruz but that turkish cultural source states shows how they are different. their only similarity is that they are on beging of spring.

Also the word Farsi is more accurate than Persian. Farsi is the name of modern persians i provided a dzen of sources in the talk page of Persian people.Diyako Talk + 22:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC).Diyako Talk + 21:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Who am I then? Send me an email. --Khoikhoi 21:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Nevruz is Noruz just a different langauge. And all the states you cliamed have registered to have it recognized along with Iran and Iraq (representing Kurdistan) as one clebration under the name Nowruz to UNESCO. There is no need for this article. Becuase the subject people's official governments recognize it as being the one and same as Nowruz, which it is in relaity, and have made join motions with Iran on the issue.

Here are your verifications.

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages.

After many, many previous warnings, I can only say you have crossed a line. Spreading plain lies which no sane person on earth would even remotely consider as acceptable, is vandalism. Claiming that Norouz is Kurdish is a lie. It is a bigger lie even than if you would claim that George Bush is chinese, or that Gallileo was Indian! Your behavior is vandalism, and you will be blocked if you don't change it.Shervink 23:41, 19 March 2006 (UTC)shervink

If somebody has different points on a certain issue it is not vandalism, I suggest you read again the wikipedia policy. Diyako Talk + 23:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Warning

Diyako, please know you cannot disrupt so many articles in order to inject some unsubstantiated notions to these articles. At some point some actions can be called vandalism, e.g., erasing sections that come with scholary sources like that of Western scholars. Just be warned please that you need to be factual and work with others. Zmmz 01:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Farsis

First off, if you think they're using sockpuppets add a report to WP:RFCU. Secondly, it doesn't matter that you think they're supposed to be called Farsis, your're doing it to provoke them. Read WP:NPA. InShaneee warned you about it and you didn't follow up to it, very simple. --Khoikhoi 01:35, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Inshaneee warned me because he thought it is a bad word but I explained for him that it is the REAL name for Persian/Farsi people. I've used and heard in whole of my life Farsi nor Persian. and you should learn to use it in the Persian people article. Diyako Talk + 01:39, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Instead I suggest you read Misplaced Pages:NPOV. Diyako Talk + 01:40, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

If you informed him that then you told him wrong. First off, I don't mean to be rude, but you aren't even Persian. The Persian editors have explained that they don't like it.
You never answered my question, why would it be banned by the Academy of Persian language? --Khoikhoi 01:42, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Farsi

I would highly recommend you stop using this term to describe other editors. While I do understand that it's a neutral term (and thus may be perfectly fine in the context of, say, an article), in some contexts it can still be taken as an insult. Look at it this way: Imagine I was in a dispute with another user, and they said to me, "That's exactly the kind of attitude I'd expect from an American." Now, it's true, I am an American, but in this sense, it's being said as an insult, trying to 'pidgeonhole' me into a sterotype. What I'm saying is that while you're probably not trying to insult them, it's pretty easy for it to be taken as an insult, so in general, it's probably safest to just not label other editors, even if it is a fairly accurate label. --InShaneee 01:44, 20 March 2006 (UTC)