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I've been discussing on some user talk pages the possibility that interaction bans between Russavia and some other editors could be lifted. The most obvious case is between Russavia and Tammsalu. (They are both high volume editors and their usual editing interests may cause them to run into each other on a wide variety of EE topics). A 1RR would apply to both parties when editing a 'shared' article but they would be free to interact otherwise. My thinking was that this could be a trial run and if it didn't work, topic bans might be the next step. (The AE thread which inspired this brainstorm is still visible at ]). Arbcom would need to approve this. I'd be interested on whether you think this is a good idea. Thanks, ] (]) 15:39, 29 August 2011 (UTC) I've been discussing on some user talk pages the possibility that interaction bans between Russavia and some other editors could be lifted. The most obvious case is between Russavia and Tammsalu. (They are both high volume editors and their usual editing interests may cause them to run into each other on a wide variety of EE topics). A 1RR would apply to both parties when editing a 'shared' article but they would be free to interact otherwise. My thinking was that this could be a trial run and if it didn't work, topic bans might be the next step. (The AE thread which inspired this brainstorm is still visible at ]). Arbcom would need to approve this. I'd be interested on whether you think this is a good idea. Thanks, ] (]) 15:39, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

: Probably it is. Interaction bans are fine with people who are locked in purely inter-personal conflict, but they just don't work for people with narrowly intertwined ''content'' editing interests. Telling people that "yes, you can both edit the same topics and even the same articles, but you mustn't interact with each other while doing so" has been a recipe for disaster. The interaction bans in this case have certainly been creating more new problems than they have helped to avoid. ] ] 17:28, 29 August 2011 (UTC)


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About Philippine Governemnt Seals

Hello Future Perfect at Sunrise,

I was wondering if I could get your advice. See I was browsing city and town articles when I spotted some of their official seal's summary in the source description said's Own Work and also the author claimed by a user. I want to seek your advice. Is this really possible? ---- BrianZhukov 14:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC+8)

Image licensing

Dear Future Perfect, Anthony Nguyen is my name and that is my photo, however Moo-Hyun Kim is the director of the hospital in question and I am an employee of his. The image for the first file is his property, and he has asked me to upload it. Unfortunately he is not very computer literate, and I'm pretty sure he would be unable to do it. I'm unsure of how to license it appropriately. The other two flagged images are also hospital property, but we are unsure of how to get permission to use them. Please advise if possible.

- Anthony

ROTK images

I have taken note of the fact that you have placed those images up for deletion. I also see that you conveniently did not alert my attention to it like you did to the other uploaders from years ago. That said, its not a big deal. I don't really mind if they are removed, since I was just trying to improve the articles. So the reason why I am messaging you is to let you know that you forgot about the picture on the Pang De article.

Edit: There are also pictures from that series on the following pages: Yuan Shao, Lu Bu, Yuan Tan, Zhang Jue, Zhang Xiu, Pang Tong, and Xu Chu. I will let you know if I find any others, but I scanned most of the major pages. --Turner1987 (talk) 01:43, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

There is one on the Zhao Yun page too. I just found it. --Turner1987 (talk) 20:43, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Eddie1Kanobi

He's back and the target is the same article as usual. Btw I'm trying to make a very simple point here about the translation of terms and precision and I didn't expect that the reply would include remarks about my ... competence.--— ZjarriRrethues —  14:31, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

More block evasion?

See Special:Contributions/202.156.13.232. FuFoFuEd (talk) 21:27, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Island

Hello, Future Perfect at Sunrise. You have new messages at Talk:Tenedos.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

P.S. Which one is more common, Lefkada or Lefkas ? Takabeg (talk) 05:38, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

PS2 If you have time, please control these national POV pushing edits. Takabeg (talk) 08:29, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Bulgarians in Albania

Hi Fut. Perf., I am just informing you of the discussion going on at Bulgarians in Albania. I believe that the situation is near identical to that which predated the formation of Slavic speakers of Greek Macedonia. It would be good to have a third party opinion in the discussion. Lunch for Two (talk) 11:35, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Where can I take my concerns with the behaviour in question (I think you know what I mean). Is a request for intervention the best idea? Thanks. Lunch for Two (talk) 14:20, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

ANI notice

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Alan the Roving Ambassador (User:N5iln) (talk) 16:05, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

"a campaign of state-sponsored discrimination" ?

Hi, Future Perfect at Sunrise. When you have time, could you control Talk:Imbros and Talk:Tenedos#"a campaign of state-sponsored discrimination" ?? Is this expression is appropriate and encyclopedic for neutral encyclopedia ? Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 07:22, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Photograph Biswabijoy Sen.jpg

Hi this is a photograph which has been stylised using Nero Photo Snap viewer and useing the "Aging" effect. If required, I can send you the original image. Please consider

Pictures of User Hisakazu_HAYASHI

Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Hisakazu_HAYASHI#August_2011 Ruigeroeland (talk) 08:47, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Lifting EEML interaction bans

I've been discussing on some user talk pages the possibility that interaction bans between Russavia and some other editors could be lifted. The most obvious case is between Russavia and Tammsalu. (They are both high volume editors and their usual editing interests may cause them to run into each other on a wide variety of EE topics). A 1RR would apply to both parties when editing a 'shared' article but they would be free to interact otherwise. My thinking was that this could be a trial run and if it didn't work, topic bans might be the next step. (The AE thread which inspired this brainstorm is still visible at WP:AE#Vecrumba). Arbcom would need to approve this. I'd be interested on whether you think this is a good idea. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 15:39, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Probably it is. Interaction bans are fine with people who are locked in purely inter-personal conflict, but they just don't work for people with narrowly intertwined content editing interests. Telling people that "yes, you can both edit the same topics and even the same articles, but you mustn't interact with each other while doing so" has been a recipe for disaster. The interaction bans in this case have certainly been creating more new problems than they have helped to avoid. Fut.Perf. 17:28, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Jingiby

Hello FP. I'm looking at WP:AE#Jingiby.

Some reasons for being strict would be:

  • User has been blocked for one year in the past. However the blocking admin was User:Moreschi, an admin who was sometimes quick on the draw. Should we have confidence that there were good grounds for that block?
  • The very frequent appearance of Jingiby's name in the ARBMAC log of blocks and bans. We don't have a three-strikes policy, but the repeat violations suggest there is no learning curve.

Do you think there are good arguments for a six month topic ban from the articles covered by ARBMAC? EdJohnston (talk) 16:44, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'm the complaining party in this case, so I'm obviously not disinterested. I did some of the ARBMAC sanctions against him myself, but I have recently become involved in direct content disputes with him to an extent that's of course no longer possible. For what it's worth, I do believe the previous sanctions were justified, including the one-year one, and yes, it's a bit of a "leopard-can't-change-his-spots" situation. He is opinionated, he is given to WP:COATRACKing, he is fixated on certain ideological issues over Macedonia (although I must recognize he has also sometimes had a useful effect in helping to curb POV-pushing from other quarters), and there is something of a "competence" issue, because his English is poor, which limits his capacity of constructively negotiating NPOV niceties. I think the recent kerfuffle exemplifies all of these problems.
But I am generally not a friend of topic bans defined as widely as "everything covered by ARBMAC". ARBMAC is huuuuuge. The Balkans are a big place, and they are full of very diverse conflicts. If you have a bee in your bonnet about just one of them, it needn't mean you couldn't contribute about the next. I'd tailor any sanctions to just "Macedonian-Bulgarian issues", that's his bête noire. Fut.Perf. 17:24, 29 August 2011 (UTC)