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skl1 vandal

Thanks for helping me stop that vandal, ive got those 2 images he uploaded up for deletion right now.Brokenscope 05:17, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

No problem, always a pleasure to help :). I didn't even notice the images so its a good thing you caught them. --Hetar 05:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Bible Broadcasting Network mediation

Greetings, I am the mediator working on the BBN disagreement. Please join us at the talk page where we will get together and talk our way to solution. Thank you. --Cyde Weys 21:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: John Spencer at The West Wing (television)

I see no mention of his death in the article and its effect on the series. Should this be included somewhere? --Hetar 07:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

If you'll look to the cast section, you'll find that the last paragraph reads:

The show suffered a surprising loss following the death of John Spencer, who played Leo McGarry. Spencer experienced a fatal heart attack in December 2005, about a year after his character experienced a nearly fatal heart attack. As of February 2006, Spencer's death had not been addressed by the series, except for an opening message from Martin Sheen before the first new episode after Spencer's death.

It's, admittedly, quite important. ;) — Rebelguys2 07:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! --Hetar 07:44, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

The Work and the Story

Good save on that article. You might be interested, though, that anyone can remove a speedy tag if it no longer matches the criteria, and in fact you can remove it if you haven't even begun to fix it but say you will and do it soon. The only people who can't remove those tags are those who actually started the article. Cheers, CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 05:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. Being somewhat new I just wanted to err on the side of caution. --Hetar 05:12, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Wm2

Hi. I disagreed on the deletion of Wm2. Apparently, it has been mentioned in a number of books , and I think it has a sufficient number of users, even if this may be hard to prove. I have therefore removed the prod tag. Feel free to carry it to AfD, but my feeling is that this article would be kept. - Liberatore(T) 11:14, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

WoW deletion issue

Issue wasnt that the information was uncited. (A simple google search turned up a copy of the email I receved myself) The information was removed for being 'trivial' (check the edit summary on history), citation issue came up after the first revert. --Barberio 11:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

My point still stands. We already had two separate users who agreed that the information did not belong where it was. You should have taken it to the talk page, instead of hunting down poor users and making absurd accusations. --Hetar 18:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Re: your edits to Optics and Reflection loss. If you're going to disambiguate links, please make sure you get the right meaning. A link to a disambiguation page is always better than a completely wrong link. The correct meaning for interface in the context of optics was certainly not electrical connector!--Srleffler 06:12, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

If in doubt, the "right" link would always be interface. In this case, wiktionary:interface also works for the interface between two media. --Srleffler 07:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

That is the link to the dab page . The whole point in link disambiguation is to remove the link to those dab pages... --Hetar 07:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but a wrong link is worse than a dab link, anyday. Anyway, sorry to fuss about this. I wouldn't have mentioned it, except that you were apparently doing a big "run" of disambiguation, and I wanted to head off further mistakes.

On Primary channel you misspelled "interface" in the link you created.--Srleffler 06:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Concerning my 'nonsense'

I would like to question why you refered to the changes I made to the Strathfield, New South Wales page as nonsense. I have been a resident of Strathfield for almost 15 years, so I think I would have a better idea of what happens there then you. I would appreciate if you apologised for the comments you made against my person. Reynolds45 09:34, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear Mr. Reynolds, welcome to the world of Misplaced Pages. I cited your comments because they were unverifiable and considered original research. In order for you to cite yourself as a notable resident of Strathfield, you need to provide some significant and verifiable sources that prove this. --Hetar 09:38, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou for explaining the situation to me. I will ensure I provide verifiable sources in future updates. Reynolds45 10:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

stubs

See Misplaced Pages:Stubs, to quote: "they are short or insufficient pieces of information and require additions to further increase Misplaced Pages's usefulness". The stereotypical stub is a few sentences long, if that. Once it gets beyond a paragraph or two, I think the cleanup or wikify tag is more useful than a stub tag. --W.marsh 06:04, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I still think Southern Pacific 2472 qualifies as a stub. --Hetar 06:07, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

So revert me :-) That's the beauty of Misplaced Pages. --W.marsh 06:12, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

LOL, That is true, and your awfully nice to say that. Anyways, I suppose if I felt really strong about it, I would pursue other means of taking this to the next level. However, I respect your experience as an editor more than I do mine. Also, I'm trying to pick and choose my battles here carefully, I think WP will be a much better place if I can keep my interactions positive. --Hetar 06:16, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Lou Engle

Hey, just giving you a heads up. This guy seems to be notable enough, but I added the {{unreferenced}} and {{Christianity-bio-stub}} templates onto the page because it's a pretty poorly-written article right now! Thanks, JHMM13 (T | C) 05:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem, thanks for the heads up. --Hetar 05:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Blue Black and Gold

In regards to St Patrick's College, Strathfield. The "Notable Ex-Students" title has to be changed to "Notable Old Boys". Anyone who knows anything about the school would agree with me here. So change it. DJ LaReynnn 06:28, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

The fact that your school refers to ex-students as "notable old boys" is irrelevant. Sections headings on Misplaced Pages are meant to be uniform and standardized, so that users from all over the world will be able to understand articles and quickly navigate them. Misplaced Pages: School Project and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Universities both list appropriate section headings as alumni. "Old-boys" is a vague term and only locally applicable, thus in this case the term ex-students, or ex-alumni should be used. --Hetar 06:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

22/7

Stong Keep. It is absurd to say a proof on its own is not an encyclopedia article. What about all of the other pages devoted mainly to mathematical proofs? Will you nominate ALL of them for deletion? What about ALL OF THE ARTICLES IN list of pi topics?? Should the ALL get merged into pi? That is absurd! Misplaced Pages is NOT supposed to be only for beginners. "Night Gyr", may I inquire about your experience with Misplaced Pages's mathematics articles? "Kiss the Lizard" very clumsily misses the point of this article. 22/7 is of course one of the earliest convergents in the continued fraction expansion of π. By contrast, those decimal expansions are rather arbitrary. "kiss the lizard", what is the nature and degree of your experience with Misplaced Pages mathematics articles?

I'm not sure why you bothered to leave a note on my talk page about this article, as I did not nominate it for deletion and your note consisted of asking a bunch of questions to other users. Futhermore, I didn't even recommend that it be deleted, only that it be transfered to a more appropriate medium. --Hetar 01:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

That is why I did it. I thought you might address those same concerns, since you don't seem to think Misplaced Pages is an appropriate place for this. I don't understand why not. I thought you might explain. Michael Hardy 01:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

1. If your going to leave me a message on my talk page, please address it to me, I prefer not to receive a copy and pasted message that you spammed to everyone involved with the AfD debate for this article.
2. There is a debate page for the Afd article for a reason, please use it, and not my personal talk page.
3. The first line of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Mathematics/Proofs is "This is an encyclopedia, not a collection of math texts." The fact that there's a particular proof out there may be mathematically interesting, but the proof alone does not constitute an encyclopedia article. --Hetar 02:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

The article is not just the proof alone.

And this proof really would be out of place in any typical textbook. I don't understand what looks textbookish about it to you. To me it looks more like the sort of thing sometimes found in the Notes section of the Monthly. Michael Hardy 02:41, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Apparently you missed #2 above. I'll repeat it again for your benefit: "There is a debate page for the Afd article for a reason, please use it, and not my personal talk page." --Hetar 05:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

caption on SDA logo

I noticed that you added a caption to the logo at the Seventh-day Adventist Church article. Usually logos don't need captions on Misplaced Pages "Company or product logos, where the logo is current, and the article is about the company or product. - no caption needed" Misplaced Pages:Captions.

If you really think it does need to be there, or want to add more information (when we chose that logo, or the symbolism) we are going to have to add some more whitespace around it so that the text does not hit the edge.

Thanks --Terrible Tim 02:36, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

No biggy, I thought it looked a little isolated over there in the corner, but WP policy is obviously the overriding issue on this. --Hetar 02:49, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Llamaheadshot.jpg

I'm not sure exactly why you reverted this image to a previous version, but the version you reverted to was a vandalized one. My own fault for not deleting the bad version outright, I suppose, but still. Were you trying to fix something, or... I dunno, something? :) --PeruvianLlama 06:24, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, according to this it was done using your account, anyway. I guess no harm, no foul - I just thought I'd check and see you had intended to do something else. Cheers. --PeruvianLlama 07:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm still wondering

The discussion on AfD was concluded, so there's no need for you to claim this comment belongs there rather than here. This is where it belongs:

What makes you think the material at proof that 22/7 exceeds π is in any way textbookish? To me it seems quite obviously NOT the sort of thing one would find in textbooks, but, as I said, more like an item in the "Notes" section of the Monthly. Michael Hardy 22:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)