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Hi. Where can I find out the 3-letter code for presentation of country flags for Austria, Republic of Macedonia and Montenegro (as per my front page in countris I have visited).
- Interesting, I had to research this one myself. Apparently, we use the same codes as the ISO codes, which you can find at ISO 3166-1 alpha-3. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:54, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Carpathian
Hi! How are you doing? Yes, I added some extra references to Sumirilski in the Litsa culture article Boldwin (talk) 17:46, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Thracians and the Bulgarian ethnogenesis
Formation of the Bulgarian nation: its development in the Middle Ages (9th-14th c.) Academician Dimitŭr Simeonov Angelov, Summary in English, Sofia-Press, 1978. Jingby (talk) 18:22, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Transcarpathia
Hi. The term Transcarpathia is not widely used in Romania, but I find it suitable when reffering to the eastern regions of Romania, Moldova and parts of south-western Ukraine. Likewise the southern province of Romania, Wallachia, could be labelled as Ciscarpathia, and it would be a valid geographical term.
Andrei nacu (talk) 14:30, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Maps
Hi Slovenski. I really didn't find any map that I liked. So I had to make my own blank map. I don´t remember exactly (maybe 2 years ago) but I believe I tried to imitate one like this: File:EuropeesKazachstan.png and using google earth. It really took a hard work. You may use them.--Maulucioni (talk) 04:35, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Balkan similarity - autosomal DNA data
Balkan similarity. Look especially at the second sheet - Average data. Regs. Jingby (talk) 15:45, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
I think, you are more familiar with this matter. I am lawyer. I also do not understand exactly this mixed Y-DNA, mtDNA, autosomal-issue, because of the lack of any comment there. Regs.Jingby (talk) 05:30, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
On the Racial type of the South Slavs. As per this map taken from the book the Races of Europe the Macedonian population is not of Dinaric type. Regs. Jingby (talk) 19:28, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
According to William Z. Ripley's book The races of Europe of 1910 and his ethnographic map, the situation is the same. In western Macedonia are Albanians. Jingby (talk) 07:53, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
As per Ripley - The Races and Peoples of Southeast Europe
East of the Adriatic Sea lies Yugoslavia. This region is predominantly Dinarid in race. The maximum is attained in the southern part of Yugoslavia, in Herzegovina and still more in Montenegro. Other racial types are found in the poor interior Alpine mountain regions. Toward Austria the frequency of Nordid types increases. In the northeastern part of Yugoslavia East-Baltid and also East-Alpine strains are found. Albania is somewhat less Dinarid than Yugoslavia. Nordid, East-Alpine, and other strains are also present in Albania.
In Greece the Dinarids predominate only in the western part. Toward the northeast more East-Mediterraneans are found. On the Aegean islands we often encounter a rather primitive, dark, long- and low-skulled strain, probably of the Berid race. Likewise there are in Greece blond individuals, both of the Nordid and also the East Baltid race.
Bulgaria and southeastern Macedonia appear to be predominantly East-Mediterranean in race, with still unexplained Pre-Pontic, East-Baltid, and Nordid strains. Only in the western part of Bulgaria are there some Dinarids. The strikingly beautiful classical people of Old Rumania are similar in anthropological structure, although somewhat more Dinarid. The Rumanians of Transylvania show numerous Dinarid, and also East-Baltid as well as Nordid types. Jingby (talk) 17:02, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
As per Nordtwedt's last map he apparently places the split between the Dinaric ancestral line and the western Disles branches close to the Baltic Sea, and locates the start of the L147 line around Vistula. Jingby (talk) 04:18, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
This is Nordved's last explaination on the Haplogriop I since August 2011 + his map of the spread of Haplogroup I on the second page + the last Founder tree on the third page. Jingby (talk) 06:10, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
There are still misteries around I2a2a, but several myts have disappeared. I2a2a is comparatively new lineage. Probably it arose during the late Bronze age north of the Danube, very likely on the terrytory of today Western Poland, Belarus or East Ukraine. Jingby (talk) 13:49, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I2a2a is nearly absent in Pelopones, Epirus and Albania. It is missing in Mediterranean Greek colonies and Anatolia. The logical conclussion is: it is newcomer on the Balkans. Jingby (talk) 16:29, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Scythians
From your edit summary it still looks as though you are over-interpreting the article. The 2nd source doesn't meet our criteria at WP:RS so far as I can tell. If you disagree, please take this to WP:RSN (unless you can show clearly that the first article, which is a reliable source, explicitly backs your edit). Dougweller (talk) 13:24, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thsnks for your email. You say you've interpreted the first source. My point is that the source can't be interpreted, it has to specifically back the statement for which you are using it as a reference - see WP:NOR - it's easy not to understand how Misplaced Pages handles sources. ArbCom does not deal with such matters (I'm an ArbCom Clerk, so I can say that with some certainty). I'd appreciate it if you'd put the relevant text from the article on the talk page if you still say it specifically says what you aay it says. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 05:03, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- Great. What I'm looking for is specific mentions of Scythians. How many of the specimens were called Scythians, does it say "the constellation of populations known variously as Scythians, Andronovians", etc. It's important to avoid what we call 'original research', see WP:NOR - our articles need to reflect what the sources actually say, whereas when writing an article for a journal you can use reliable sources to build up an argument not specifically made in any individual source.
- There is also another minor issue. We need to avoid making statements in Misplaced Pages's voice that something has been proved, confirmed, etc. See WP:WORDS (which doesn't mention the word 'confirmed' but I think explains the issue well enough). And I don't think the relationship between the Alans and the Scythians is as definite as your edit suggests, so perhaps it needs to say 'The Alans, sometimes (whatever can be sourced) have been described as....'. Thanks a lot for your cooperation. A lot of the genetic stuff in our articles is nonsense, either clearly not describing the subject of the article or old stuff now obsolete. Dougweller (talk) 06:48, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
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Blocked
Notice to administrators: In a March 2010 decision, the Committee held that "Administrators are prohibited from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page. Any administrator that overturns an enforcement action outside of these circumstances shall be subject to appropriate sanctions, up to and including desysopping, at the discretion of the Committee."
- This is something from which I derive no pleasure, but I'm considering banning you from the Ancient Macedonians article when your block expires. If there's anything you'd like to say that you think might influence my decision (I haven't made up my mind yet), you can post it here at any point before the block expires. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:37, 9 September 2011 (UTC)