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Hello, I am a Campus Ambassador of Misplaced Pages India Education Program, I have to encourage them to start editing articles. It was not at all a random act. I am their Campus Ambassador. Mihir.khatwani (talk • contribs)

Hello, you should stop doing this immediately. Continuing probably will get you blocked. DVdm (talk) 14:52, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I think Mihir.khatwani's action was justified, as he is part of the WP:IEP. Hope you understand. Lynch7 14:59, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Could be, but i.m.o. Misplaced Pages XYZ Program Ambassadors should first have at least a basic idea how Misplaced Pages works. I don't think that this is the case. DVdm (talk) 15:05, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) DVdm I know how wikipedia works.I have given presentation on the working of wikipedia. Please checkout the WP:IEP page, you might not know about it, but wikipedia launched an Education Program similar to US and we are the volumteers co-ordinating the program in India. Every Lynch is an Online ambassador and I am a Campus Ambassador. I have like 60 students in my class and I need to encourage them to write articles, the only way to do it is post on their talk-pages and ask them to start editing, I hope you understand. Thanks for backing me up Mike ;). --Mihir.khatwani (talk) 15:07, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)His actions didn't create any havoc he simply urged students to start editing under WP:IEP. He has been trained and given basic idea of how Misplaced Pages works. Thanks. Rangilo Gujarati (talk) 15:11, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, please then have a close look at wp:talk page guidelines and specifically at wp:Talk page guidelines#User talk pages. Some basic rules are: (1) to put new messages at the bottom, (2) to use proper section headings, (3) to sign messages with four tildes (~~~~), and (4) never to remove (or replace) existing content from other peoples user talk pages. If you have a carefull read of these guidelines, the probability that someone mistakes your messages for vandalism will be much smaller. That is what happened with me anyway. Hope this helps. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 15:18, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry for that. Will not happen again. I removed the previous content on one of the user's page because as they are my students and I know them personally, and they are not so good at using Misplaced Pages and they get confused while viewing anything with a template. I will not do so then. Cheers. --Mihir.khatwani (talk) 15:24, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok, please accept my apologies for the way I might have scared you. Feel free to remove my —now moot— messages from your user talk page, this is perfectly ok with the wp:TPG. Good luck with the project! DVdm (talk) 15:29, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Nahh! You are just a well wisher and a contributor for Misplaced Pages. I was not scared, we were trained for these kind of things, since most of the users are not aware for India Education Program so we will run into difficulties like these.Now most of the admins know us.And also if you are willing to contribute towards the Education program you can apply to be an online amabssador.Or help out some of the students at this IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/#wikipedia-en-classroom --Mihir.khatwani (talk) 15:35, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the reversion

Thanks for reverting that entry on my Talk page. --Deadly∀ssassin 09:03, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

What's your problem?

Seriously, I made a good edit on an article, another overzealous super-guy editor undid it and accused me of basically vandalizing the article, and then did some research and reverted the article to what I had changed. Then you come along and threaten to ban me? Get off your high horse, dude. 76.119.75.131 (talk) 09:06, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

You aren't the kind of guy who actually responds, huh? 76.119.75.131 (talk) 09:32, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Not when you attack other people on their talk page calling them "dumbass", or when I'm addressed this way, or when I'm told: "Mind your own business." If you want to communicate in a meaningful way, you really need to be polite. DVdm (talk) 09:51, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm just saying - if you had bothered to examine the situation rather than escalate it, much of this current situation wouldn't have happened. 76.119.75.131 (talk) 10:00, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

People being called "idiots" or "dumbasses" tend to be less inclined to examine situations on demand. Try to remember that, and you'll be able to collaborate here. DVdm (talk) 10:02, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

And here I thought that if a statement was true, it was allowed. Did they change the guidelines on that? The original admin was acting like an idiot. And he realized as much - that's why he reinstated my edit within a minute of reversing it. Maybe letting people police their own talk pages would solve some of this nonsense. 76.119.75.131 (talk) 10:05, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

• WP:DNFTT, DVdm. You are quite right of course, but I doubt you'll get through. --Deadly∀ssassin 10:07, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

DA, all you had to do was apologize for reverting a quality edit, and I'd have stopped this nonsense by now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.75.131 (talk) 10:10, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Anon76, please have a very careful look at wp:ETIQ and wp:AGF. When you immediately start calling someone who makes a possible mistake an "idiot", chances are that subsequent communication will be difficult, if not impossible. When you persist behaving like that, changes are that you end up blocked, so, trust me, do be very careful.

Da and Anon76, I suggest that you apologise to each other — in no particular order. Cheers & Chill. DVdm (talk) 10:19, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Right now, I haven't done anything really wrong yet. I made a quality edit, and stood by it when some power-hungry mod reverted it. All the drama would have been prevented if DA had simply apologized, rather than just increasing my warning level. 76.119.75.131 (talk) 10:36, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Have a more careful look at wp:ETIQ and wp:AGF. You have personally attacked two people. Next time you'll probably get blocked. That is how Misplaced Pages works. - DVdm (talk) 10:40, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

People who automatically revert edits made by IP users, without bothering to actually read them first, deserve to be attacked personally. 76.119.75.131 (talk) 10:42, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Have a much more careful look at wp:ETIQ and wp:AGF. People who personally attack people who make a mistake, get blocked on Misplaced Pages. Trust me. - DVdm (talk) 10:45, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Judging by his lack of an apology, I have to believe that this was not an honest mistake. I understand "Assume good faith" but personally, if I had made a mistake like that in good faith, I'd have apologized. As he refuses to do this, I'm not sure that his reversion wasn't an act of vandalism. 76.119.75.131 (talk) 10:48, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Enough of this! Drop the stick and find something useful to do. Otherwise you risk being blocked for harassment. Favonian (talk) 10:50, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)If you hadn't called him an idiot in the first place, and had asked politely instead, he might have apologised. An apology is something to give — not something to demand. DVdm (talk) 10:56, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

• Well of course he would, as evidenced time and again on my talk page and elsewhere. When another editor gets abusive or rude I simply ignore them. 99/100 the issue resolves itself that way, in this case it clearly didn't. I am sorry about all the editor time that this molehill has taken up. Have a good night all. --Deadly∀ssassin 11:15, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Oops, what I meant to say was "Well of course I would, as evidenced ..." which was intended to agree with your point above. --Deadly∀ssassin 20:11, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Ignore and forget about it :-) - DVdm (talk)

Inappropriate deletion of an episode summary

Your issue with the episode summary for the third episode of Pan Am involved one misplaced letter you could clearly have removed yourself rather than remove the entire edit summary. That edit, which you made a second time even after it was reverted, was neither constructive nor helpful. If you were unable to make the change you wanted, you should have left a comment on the episodes talk page or after I reverted on mine, not removed the entire summary twice. I can think of no circumstances where so extreme an edit is a viable, appropriate option. Drmargi (talk) 15:02, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Drmargi, the original "They gals..." edit had no edit summary (which I could therefore not have removed, like you say), no source, was made by a first time anonymous IP, and sounded like wp:NOCLUE. So, assuming good faith, and having no idea what they possibly could have meant (gals?), I googled for the string "They gals" on the internet and found nothing usable, so I reverted it, asking "They gals N?" and making a little typo with that letter "N" at the end of my edit summary. I therefore don't think there was aything wrong with my first revert. As for the second instance, I undid your revert marking mine as vandalism (Rvv) which it was not, and which restored a clearly nonsensical edit. With that second revert I gave a very clear and precise edit summary: "Please replace "They gals" with a proper expression in English. Thank you." I didn't think that, with such an unambiguous edit summary, a talk page comment was needed, so I decided not to make one. And indeed apparently you took care of it a bit later. Thanks for that. On the other hand, I understand and appreciate your comment here, and perhaps indeed I should have come to your talk page and explain the first part of the comments I am writing now. I'm sorry for having upset you this way. DVdm (talk) 15:46, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Revertion of additions on Michel Farinet

Hi DVdm,

You recently reverted some external links added to this article by User:Bastien Sens-Méyé. I haven't undone your edit, but one or two of them looked as though they might (stress, might!) constitute valid sources. Since they're in French (which I can't speak beyond ordering coffee and croissants), I've encouraged Bastien to read WP:RS and consider whether any of them could be inserted as citations. No action required on your part, but I thought it best to let you know - don't come down on him too hard if he adds them back and you disagree; blame me instead!

Cheers, Yunshui (talk) 08:32, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi, no problem, I had just replied at User talk:Bastien Sens-Méyé. Perhaps best to keep it there. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 08:46, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Relativity of simultaneity

Hi. I believe I undid the edit because I realized that there was another inline citation earlier in the sentence, and it looked inconsistent to have ono inside the sentence and one outside of it. In the end, I figured I'd better leave it for someone else :) --90.184.154.70 (talk) 20:07, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure :-) - DVdm (talk) 20:10, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Ik heb zin in een paar stroopwafels!

Even if they're virtual. - DVdm (talk) 17:13, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Willdasmiffking

Not sure if you know, but Willdasmiffking was making unconstructive edits to List of English inventions and discoveries as well as to Maxim gun and Hiram Maxim. Thank you for reporting him to the administrator's board because I was about to do the same thing until you beat me to it. Yoganate79 (talk) 19:44, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome :-) - DVdm (talk) 19:46, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I did not attack that user

I wish to appeal my warning. I did not make a personal attack on that guy. He's in the middle of an edit war and I told the other guy to stop fighting with him. And for some reason he comes and attacks me? I don't get what this whole thing is about but Me123456789 or whatever is being really childish and I would like it if you could remove that warning. thanks 184.100.206.84 (talk) 14:20, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

You are free to remove any comment from your own talk page. If someone attacks you, the best thing to do is to either ignore it, or to remove the attack from your talk page. In any case try to stay polite. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 14:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Those weren't my edits

You recently notified me that edits I supposedly made to National Coming Out Day were removed because they were considered vandalism. I did not make those edits, nor would I ever write such offensive garbage. I'm not sure how I became linked to this incident, but I'm glad those comments were deleted. 12.131.0.2 (talk) 21:10, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi there, yes, this is possible. Notice the text at the bottom on your talk page. It says "This is the discussion page for an IP user, identified by the user's numerical IP address. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users. If you are an IP user, you may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other IP users. Registering also hides your IP address." The best thing you can do, is sign up for a username. It has many other advantages — see wp:ACCOUNT. Cheers and happy editing. - DVdm (talk) 21:24, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

I am a registered user. I had not logged in for a few weeks, but still, my IP address should have been protected. Anyway, I'm glad it's resolved. Jessdfacts (talk) 20:57, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

M Fowler

Hi - that IP is adding cut and copy paste from here http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3871084/TOWIE-Maria-Fowlers-secret-past-as-escort.html - I have a feeling even if it was cited it doesn't belong in a BLP. Off2riorob (talk) 20:59, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Indeed it doesn't, and it's a copyright violation anyway. DVdm (talk) 21:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

recent change

Dear DVdm,

The BDS page is written from a anti-Israel perspective. All what i did was to neutralise the page. Please revert the changes you have made. My edit was made not to be subtle while the BDS trys to be subtle.

10:53, 21 October 2011 (UTC)MYGAMEUPLAY (talk)

This may be true, but the proper thing to do first, is to go to the article talk page (Talk:Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions), explain your objections, and propose a modification to the article, in agreement with the other contributors. I have put a welcome message on your user talk page with some pointers to relevant articles, explaining how Misplaced Pages works. Cheers and good luck. DVdm (talk) 11:23, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Please my reply to Theroadislong so that you can understand where i am coming from. Plus you must understand that due to the high amounts of anti-semetism, Misplaced Pages will not allow my comments. If you are wondering where I received this information from, I just returned from a 6 week trip to Israel because I prefer to have both sides of the story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MYGAMEUPLAY (talk • contribs) 11:29, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

read my reply to Theroadislong.

thanks

MYGAMEUPLAY (talk) 11:33, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Where you are coming from is not relevant on Misplaced Pages. Adding personal comments in articles, edit warring and making personal attacks (like this reply to Theroadislong) is not done on Misplaced Pages. Continuing to do so will get you blocked before you can say "Ouch!", so please try to get an idea about how things go around here. DVdm (talk) 11:40, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Dear DVdm,

for now i have decided to take your advice and i have begun talking with the page creator. Thanks for your help and i wish you a good life(no sarcasm). Just remember this, i SUPPORT Israel and Arabs, but with the news are told today, It is ALWAYS pro-Arab (which pisses me off). So you must understand i took a 2 month trip to Israel to gget the real story. I suggest you do the same thing, then you might understand my Point Of View.

Once again thank you for your help.

Yours Sincerly,

MYGAMEUPLAY (talk) 11:46, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

P.S keep in touch

I made a little change to my last message (re personal attacks) on your talk page. DVdm (talk) 11:51, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

User warnings

I couldn't find what you were trying to do here but it didn't work. Dougweller (talk) 13:05, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Erm, I'm not sure I'm with you. I don't have any edit in that article or in its talk page. Quid? DVdm (talk) 13:07, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Not sure what happened there but you fixed it, I grabbed the wrong dif, sorry. You might want to look at WP:NORN#James, son of Alphaeus. Dougweller (talk) 13:12, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Still not with you. As far as I can tell, I didn't fix anything overthere either. Quod? :-) - DVdm (talk) 13:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

My bad, two editors with names beginning with B both with OR problems, the edit was . Dougweller (talk) 16:28, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Ah, OK. There seems to have been (or still be) a problem with Huggle and/or its random templates. I left some messages here and here. - Cheers - DVdm (talk) 16:48, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Tracing IPs

Hiya,

Thanks for being quick to revert vandalism on my talk page. Is there any way I can find out the IPs that Julaime6606 (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) (who has vandalised it a few times today) has been posting from? We think they may be a disgruntled banned user on SABRE but without matching IPs, we don't have enough concrete evidence to permanently boot them off. --Ritchie333 (talk) 17:27, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi. This seems nasty indeed. I think the best thing to do, is to file a little report at wp:ANI. Don't forget to notify the user on their user talk page as well. The incidents page explains how to do that with a simple template. Good luck. DVdm (talk) 17:38, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Human Rights Violations

You just un-did an edit I made on Human Rights Violations (Removing the redirect to Human Rights). I've been working with a partner on an academic project to produce a full page for Human Rights Violations. As far as I can tell, the easiest way to do that is to get rid of the redirect. Obviously for now I can leave the redirect while working on the page, but once it's finished I plan on removing the redirect, allowing the subject to stand on its own, with links back to Human Rights. There is a great amount of information on the subject that deserves a greater exploration than just a subheading. Hope that works. DBG2011 (talk) 18:15, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok, sounds like a plan. Please don't forget to write a short edit summary for all your edits. Doing so can prevent patrollers from mistaking your edits as vandalism. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 18:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrol survey

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Warning to 205.228.53.12

Hi: You warned someone who was reverting one piece of the vandalism at Holocene, and got a hurt response to your message. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:39, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I left an explanation and an apology on the user's talk page. Cheers. - DVdm (talk) 21:15, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Shipwrecked 2011

Just to let you know about vandalism on Shipwrecked 2011 by IP user. --MSalmon (talk) 21:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

You mean at Shipwrecked: The Island 2011. I see what's going on. I have reverted and left a final warning on talk page. DVdm (talk) 22:00, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thanks --MSalmon (talk) 22:01, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism again --MSalmon (talk) 09:43, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Reverted and user reported. - DVdm (talk) 09:49, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

User blocked now. DVdm (talk) 09:54, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I know, I saw. You can now remove this section as it has been dealt with. --MSalmon (talk) 09:54, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

No need to remove this section — it can stay. Note that it might be a good idea to add some sources for the data to the article. That makes it less attractive to vandals. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 09:59, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Hello DVdm! I hope you enjoy this cookie as an amicable greeting from a fellow Wikipedian, SwisterTwister talk 21:50, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

YUM! Thanks :-) - DVdm (talk) 22:03, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

plz see

i have added reference about indian calculations. i have also added a link that shows scanning of r..ig veda page that has particular hyme. plz see all and consider — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drajaytripathi (talk • contribs) 13:58, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Please read all about reliable sources here and here, and then if you still think that your text should be part of the article, try to propose it on the article's talk page and see what the other contributors think about it. Thanks. - DVdm (talk) 14:05, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

regarding your warning

The external links which I have added as part of my edit are purely informational in nature and not irrelevant. Please consider going through the links before passing a judgement. The links were given to each event is happening in the festival. with in a page informing the people of a technical festival how is adding links to the events of the festival irrelevant or advertising ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prasadpiyer (talk • contribs) 15:16, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Referring to this edit, the phrase "Techkriti has fast emerged as one of the best technical festivals of the country over the past years and now resounds as a familiar name across the colleges as well as the industry, nationwide." is unsourced and sounds like an advertisement. The phrase "The present contacts details of the core team which conducts the event can be found here" is an advertisement. This really is not allowed on Misplaced Pages. DVdm (talk) 15:23, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

ultrabook

i received your message saying un-neutral point of view? but that was just copy and paste from intel, how un-neutral is that? lol 175.156.207.95 (talk) 16:21, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Ha, well, if it's copied from the Intel page, then it's an Intel advertisement, and hardly neutral as such. The source you provided is then a wp:primary source and a wp:secondary source should be found. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 16:28, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Haha you beat me to warning that IP vandal. Have a good one! Shuipzv3 (talk) 09:52, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Thx! - DVdm (talk) 10:29, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Pages

I'm not attempting to blank the pages, unfortunately for some reason, every time I've made an addition to a page, it blanks it and doesn't post the additions I have made. 71.233.89.10 (talk) 13:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

In that case you might consider putting a {{helpme}} template on your talk page. Click the link to see how it works. Good luck. DVdm (talk) 14:01, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

What exactly is "disruptive" about my posting, aside from the accidental blanking which wasn't intentional? Is it because it's not pro-Darwinism? As for a neutral view point on this article, LOL; the article and template in question are far from being "neutral" as it is blatantly pro-Darwinism/Evolutionism and anti-Creationism/Intelligent Design. Labeling the latter as "pseudoscience" is completely inaccurate, baseless, and biased. The edits I made to the "List of topics characterized as pseudoscience" were not "disruptive" nor "non-neutral" at all. They honestly clarified the reasoning for the baseless labeling against some particular items in question. The article and template in question, themselves, violate Misplaced Pages's Neutral point of view policy as it is clearly favoring one ideological point of view (Darwinsim/Naturalism), my edits were an attempt to rectify that hypocrisy, and as I figured, Misplaced Pages's resident anti-Theists pop out of the wood work to censor any opposition to Darwinism. 71.233.89.10 (talk) 14:25, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, if you like to unlabel certain activities as pseudoscience (as you did here), you need to go to the various corresponding article talk pages and establish strong consenses about that. If you think that indeed "the article and template in question, themselves, violate Misplaced Pages's Neutral point of view policy", then you need to go to, for instance, Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard and open a case there. DVdm (talk) 14:37, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree with DVdm. You have "accidental blank' two different pages regarding this subject, Template:Pseudoscience and List of topics characterized as pseudoscience. Once, I could buy as an accident, but twice on two pages??? Additionally removing valid examples, adding "labeled as "pseudoscience" by naturalists hostile to the items in question" and using misleading edit summaries (ie "*Adding some more examples" while removing examples not adding them), is clearly WP:POVish and "disruptive".--ARTEST4ECHO (/_contribs) 14:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Additional note to anon 71.233.89.10 — Please have a careful read of this particular section on the talk page Talk:List of topics characterized as pseudoscience. DVdm (talk) 17:10, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

English class

Hi- My name is Leslie Fleming and I am a freshman at Clemson University. For my english class we were asked to create or edit a wikipedia page. If you have time I would love if you could look over what I have started in my sandbox: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Lflemin/Homestead_High_School_(Mequon,_Wisconsin)_sandbox Thanks so much!

Lflemin (talk) 15:20, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, can't help with this subject. You'll have to ask the one who is reponsible for this: your teacher. Good luck. DVdm (talk) 08:09, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

AutoCAD Article

Hello, I'm a freshman at Clemson University. In my English 103 class, we are required to work on a wikipedia article. I've been working on the AutoCAD article. I added some content about the Mobile App and added a new section containing information about the newest release. Just so you know its only our "first draft" so I will definitely be putting more information up. I'm required to ask two current Wiki users that have worked on the page for any suggestions that they may have or problems that they see with the article. I would greatly appreciate the help! Here is a link to the sandbox which has bullet points about what I plan on adding in the next week. DD-ENGL103-41 AutoCAD Sandbox Thanks! DD-ENGL103-41 (talk) 22:54, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

I haven't scrutinized them, but at first glance your edits to the live article (AutoCAD) look OK to me. Good luck. DVdm (talk) 07:55, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Buster Keaton problem

DVdm, whilst I appreciate your looking over Buster Keaton, I don't think it is fair of you to have removed my term "wryly". It is applicable and does not have to appear in the original - you're splitting haec verba hairs without need. There is room for style without calling it a point of view or original research or whatever it is you said about it. I object further because in your explanation you said "wryliness" which is not even a word! I'd appreciate it if you just left my good edits alone!Djathinkimacowboy (talk) 19:04, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

This issue has been clarified for me by a very helpful fellow here. So I will accept the "borderline" reason for the removal of my term. Personally I think there ought to be a Misplaced Pages rule about writer's style-cramping.Djathinkimacowboy 20:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

We have rules about wp:original research and wp:neutrality. How ever much we would like to express our opinions and appreciations into articles, we're just not allowed to. The idea is to let the reader decide by checking the source whether the tone was wry or dry. Again, I'm very surprised that, after having been around here for more than a decade, you don't know these rules.

There is no rule that says that we are not allowed to invent new words in our edit summaries in order to express what the edits are about. I can assure you that I looked it up in two online dictionaries and, when I failed to find it, I doubted about scare quoting it, but then I decided to boldly invent it on the spot, although I now realize that I probably should have called it wryness. I'm not going to diclook (without scare quotes — no rule about inventing new words on talk pages) for that one, as I'm sure it does exist. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

Finally, I try to leave everyone's good edits alone and only touch some of the bad ones that I happen to come across, so you really have nothing to fear — on the contrary. DVdm (talk) 21:44, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Please, be gracious and assume good faith. No matter what anyone says, describing a quote as "wry" or any PROPER derivation therefrom is NOT a point of view or opinion. Lord, one would have to be barely semi-literate to fail to appreciate the wryness of the remark.

Still, I appreciate your diligence. However, I think you're being as narrow as you think I am. I know these rules perhaps better than most. I've seen them re-written and tortured over the years, for certain. Yes, I slip up as we all do - but it happens much more often that we get obsessed with editing every little thing.

You said, "...but then I decided to boldly invent it on the spot, although I now realize that I probably should have called it wryness..." and I cheer that. See, that's the spirit. The spirit I think you may be a bit uptight in dealing with others. Now you should have checked the verifiability of that made-up word! ;)

In the end, I respect you a lot. I have seen the work you have done there and in a few other spots. We writers (Misplaced Pages is the furthest thing from 'my life') get a bit hot about style.

I would suggest to you that boldness and style do have a place here, and not all of it is mere opinion.Djathinkimacowboy 02:11, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Trust me, it is not a point of opinion, but one of policy that describing a quote as "wry" is a point of opinion. It can look nice on a blog but it looks ugly in an encyclopedia. DVdm (talk) 07:58, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, yes, I get it! - and still, though we shouldn't argue it further, I can direct you to someone here who agrees with us both. He favors your rendition of the point, though he can see why I worded it the way I did. Stick to the safest interpretation of the rule is what he suggested. I have respected you both in this. Djathinkimacowboy 15:29, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

External link removed

The external Physics link removed was for a subscription service. It should be removed as suggested on the page to remove improper links!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.139.66.160 (talk) 08:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

If you think that a link is improper, and you decide to remove it, then by all means do so, but please provide an edit summary explaining what you are doing. You can point to for instance the relevant item in the list at wp:ELNO, like I did in this edit. Providing an edit summary decreases the probability that other editors mistake your edits for vandalism or spamming.

That said, the content pointed to with the link in question requires no subscription, but it is indeed a blog and can therefore be removed per wp:ELNO #11. So go ahead, but make sure you don't replace it with another improper link. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 08:27, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Grin

Just a funny one, this - DVdm (talk) 09:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Ever so often I come across some like you

Who insists of reverting waht I write in the Misplaced Pages. Eventually they go away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.162.111 (talk) 10:58, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Symmetry at work :-) - DVdm (talk) 11:08, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Michael Na

You wanna read the page properly? If you can find one reason not to delete it, let me know. Jemerychen (talk) 11:19, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

The article is tagged for deletion. If it is nonsense, it will be deleted. Be patient, and do not create new usernames to speed up the process. If you continue, you will get blocked. DVdm (talk) 11:24, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

It is an honor to award:

		The Minor Barnstar
		For the vigilance and razor-keen exactitude in minor edits that make articles streamlined and perfect. Djathinkimacowboy 03:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of link to BBC One Balloon ident filmed at Cley next the Sea in Norfolk

Hello, I do not understand why you have deleted the video link depicting Cley next the Sea in the BBC One Balloon idents. This was not pure advertising at all, and was simply recognition of the village's proud achievement. (86.53.67.133 (talk) 10:30, 8 November 2011 (UTC))

It's not advertising, but it is an inappropriate external link. As I said on the article talk page, see wp:ELNO. - DVdm (talk) 10:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm still unconvinced by your justification, but would the following YouTube link be more appropriate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR2Nf6ahzdo&feature=related ? (86.53.67.133 (talk) 10:38, 8 November 2011 (UTC))

Not as an external link. What you could try however, it to say something about what happened and then use that link as a source for the statement. I do think however that the event lacks wp:notability. I will leave that to other contributors. DVdm (talk) 10:46, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

For a village of Cley's size, this was certainly notable. I have resubmitted the link as a source as you advised. (86.53.67.133 (talk) 10:54, 8 November 2011 (UTC))

That is better already. I made a minor tweak to your edit, and removed the warnings on your talk page. They were inappropriate. My apologies. DVdm (talk) 11:01, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Much appreciated. (86.53.67.133 (talk) 14:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC))

No problem. Pity that the source turned out to be a copyright violation. Ah well. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 14:34, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Aw, this was very very bad idea. You could have been blocked for that. Good thing that user Palmiped (talk · contribs) found this quick and elegant solution for you. - DVdm (talk) 18:49, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

list of cold fusion researchers

We obviously cant describe each researchers contribution in the cold fusion article. Rothwell's first list has 4500 names on it. A later version only lists the 350 peer review published researchers. We cant list this on the cold fusion article but it does show how active the field exactly is. Currently people believe Rossi is doing all the work. This while he hasn't even published anything. Nothing on Misplaced Pages contradicts this flawed assumption.

I'm not sure about the exact criteria at this stage but before adding them to a Misplaced Pages list of researchers each list item should have the credentials checked out. This is going to take some time. People who have a wikipedia article that already identifies them as a cold fusion researcher would obviously be the first to approve. The gray areas need a bit of debate first.

If you cant wait you can put the article live with 4 or 5 of the 350 names on it but I thought that was a bit of a silly approach. The list on the talk page is suppose to be a photo-negative of the one on the article so that editors can easily help expand it.

If in doubt, we also have List of quantum gravity researchers and one for List of loop quantum gravity researchers etc etc

84.106.26.81 (talk) 17:13, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I obviously cant continue now that you took over the page so I'm going to do something else. My apologies if my response is a bit slow. 84.106.26.81 (talk) 17:24, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Now that I have had a quick read of the serious wp:BLP-related objections at Talk:Cold fusion#List of cold fusion researchers, I strongly suggest you remove that long list ASAP and try to get a solid wp:consensus with the other editors over there. I will not touch anything further. DVdm (talk) 17:40, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I can see you are reverting IP edits. I also see in this process you ended up falsely accusing me of BLP violations, suggesting Cold fusion is a dirty word in the eyes of cold fusion researchers. I would like you to substantiate the claim or withdraw it.

Thanks ;) 84.106.26.81 (talk) 20:30, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, I don't see any BLP-accusation or claim from my part, so I wouldn't know what I possibly could substantiate or withdraw. The BLP-related stuff that I do see, are objections and concerns by Stephan Schulz, SteveBaker, again, and TenOfAllTrades on Talk:Cold fusion#List of cold fusion researchers, and it would be very wise to listen to these guys. Consider it a friendly, but well-informed little piece of advice. Good luck. - DVdm (talk) 22:11, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I didn't even understand their point. lol Apparently they got the impression I wasn't going to source anything. What would be the fun in that? It's such a strange assumption I really didn't get it. Now it all makes sense. I just have to get used to the idea of being treated like an idiot and all will be fine. haha 84.106.26.81 (talk) 03:04, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you still don't get the point. It is not about sourcing, but about interpreting sources the wrong way (see wp:SYNTH, wp:NOR, wp:BLP). The point is that having XYZ's name in the list of authors of a publication in PQR's list of UVW-related publications, does not warrant labeling XYX as a UVW-researcher with PQR's list as a source. Try re-reading their comments with that in mind. Understand that and all will be fine. - DVdm (talk) 08:10, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Nikola Tesla troubles

Oh, please come over and see the talk page. It has erupted due to the harassment by user DIREKTOR, who I understand is a troublemaker. Good thing it's protected! This stuff on the talk page is frankly garbage. Now two editors are over there dancing round the issue like crazy people. Djathinkimacowboy 18:37, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I had seen it. See my comment here. - DVdm (talk) 18:48, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Watch out, there's serious reporting going on with anyone who disgrees with "him". Djathinkimacowboy 19:54, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Buster Keaton vandalism - help!

Sorry to barge in again - this article is being vandalised almost daily. I don't know where you sit in the totem pole, but is there any way we can lock this, protect it like Nikola Tesla? Djathinkimacowboy 18:44, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Wie wind zaait, zal storm oogsten.

Exercise: go to Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection. - DVdm (talk) 18:55, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

HA! Agreed. Heel juist. I hate seeing that kind of nonsense happen to any article. Djathinkimacowboy 19:50, 9 November 2011 (UTC)