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Category:Mariah Carey Films
Unless I'm mistaken, I believe prior discussions concluded that we shouldn't categorise films by actor. Extraordinary Machine 23:07, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Viribus Unitis class battleships
The battleship class has been changed to Tegetthoff. The original items of this category were migrated into newly created Category:Tegetthoff class battleships. Sandius 21:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Washington highways
Redundant to Category:Washington state highways. Got mired in some silly process arguments so has to come here again. In the U.S. state of Washington, a state highway is a road maintained by the state. This includes Interstates and U.S. Routes. --SPUI (T - C - RFC) 21:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. —Locke Cole • t • c 21:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, after coming across this while clearing out SD candidates. (several times.) State highway states that interstates, US routes, and state highways are distinct things. These terms may be used differently in local areas- eg in Washington- but notice that Category:Washington state highways contains both subcats as well as state routes. If interstates and US numbered highways deserve their own cats, so do state routes; i can see little reason to categorize them under what is also an umbrella cat. IMO Category:Washington highways should remain as an umbrella, with the three cats for state routes, interstates etc underneath. While state highways may be used in washington to refer to any state maintained road, they aren't therefore equivelant to interstates and US routes when setting up categories on wikipedia. see my talk for more discussion with SPUI and Rschen7754. (And again, why isn't this being sorted out at WikiProject Highways, WikiProject Washington State Highways, or WikiProject U.S. Roads?????) --He:ah? 21:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Your reasoning is incorrect. In Washington, Interstates and U.S. Routes are state highways. They are also State Routes, so splitting it like that doesn't work. --SPUI (T - C - RFC) 22:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Heah. BoojiBoy
- Delete and make Interstates and US Highways as subcategories of Washington state highways.Polaron 21:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 23:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- What is your reasoning? --SPUI (T - C - RFC) 00:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- I;ve stated it over and over. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 00:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- The only reason you've stated is that you think it should be deleted but others might want it kept. Closing admin: please treat Rschen7754's vote as a delete. --SPUI (T - C - RFC) 01:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- You can;'t do that! It should be kept because it presents the proper hierarchy for the system. Stop trying to get the category speedied. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 01:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- The only reason you've stated is that you think it should be deleted but others might want it kept. Closing admin: please treat Rschen7754's vote as a delete. --SPUI (T - C - RFC) 01:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- I;ve stated it over and over. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 00:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- What is your reasoning? --SPUI (T - C - RFC) 00:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, weakly, as redundant—although my personal preference would be to move Category:Washington state highways in its current form to Category:Washington highways after the deletion, to mitigate any confusion. --phh 01:17, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Queen's University, Belfast to Category:Queen's University of Belfast
Rename. This category should simply be changed to matched the main article, Queen's University of Belfast.--67.70.161.113 20:07, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Rename Clearer as to what is meant. Djegan 00:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Role Models
for Paragons of virtue; needs objective inclusion criteria -- ProveIt 18:25, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Pure personal opinion. Sumahoy 23:10, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Cleveland Indians (football) players
See: Category:Cleveland Indians (NFL) players ProveIt 18:25, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. The league abbreviation is better as a parenthetical than the sport.--Mike Selinker 00:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Queen's University, Canada alumni to Category:Queen's University alumni
Rename.This category should be changed to matched the main article, Queen's University. The use of the ", Canada" qualifier is unnecessary and awkward form. 67.70.161.113 18:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:IAS to Category:International Accounting Standards
A follow up to the two nominations below. Practice is to avoid abbreviations in most cases. Rename. CalJW 17:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Don't rename - The name is to long the acronym would be better and means the same thing. People often use the term IAS.
- Rename Misplaced Pages is for the public, not for specialists who know what obscure acronyms mean. Sumahoy 23:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:IFRS to Category:International Financial Reporting Standards
Another abbreviation which should be remove. Same rationale applies as for the category below. Rename CalJW 17:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Don't rename - The name is to long and the acronym is understood. SirIsaacBrock 22:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Rename Misplaced Pages is for the public, not for specialists who know what obscure acronyms mean. Sumahoy 23:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:GAAP to Category:Generally Accepted Accounting Principles
Abbreviations should be avoided unless the full name is ridiculously long or less clear than the abbreviation. Rename CalJW 17:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Don't Rename - The name is to long and the acronym is understood. SirIsaacBrock 22:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Rename Misplaced Pages is for the public, not for specialists who know what obscure acronyms mean. Sumahoy 23:12, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Accounting to Category:Accountancy
While the word "accounting" is a commonly used verb it sounds odd as the name of the subject area category. The main article is Accountancy. Rename Category:Accountancy. CalJW 17:13, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Comment - some people say TomAto and some people say Tomato ! No difference SirIsaacBrock 22:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Accounting Miscellaneous
"Miscellaneous" categories are just a bad idea. Articles should be put in more accurate categories where possible, but where that is not yet or will never be appropriate they should be left in the general category. Merge with category:Accounting (or with Category:Accountancy if the renaming proposed above goes through.) CalJW 17:07, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Comment - I am flexible on this so if there is a consensus my vote is merge. SirIsaacBrock 22:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Sumahoy 23:13, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Mass media in the Republic of China to Category:Media of the Republic of China
This is the only national media category name out of 110 which included the word "mass". The everyday meaning of media is clear and requires no qualifier. Rename CalJW 17:00, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Rename per nom. Sumahoy 23:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Self-declared Emperors
- Delete I think it is inherently POV -- particularly since the creator also made it a subcategory of Category:People noted for being in rare medical or psychological categories. But what caught my attention is the inclusion of Cao Pi in this category, which shows that this category would be POV -- whether Cao Pi was "self-declared" or was legitimately given his throne by Emperor Xian of Han is a matter of perspective. (Similar problems exist with the other two current Chinese occupants of the category, Sima Lun and Wang Shichong.) I don't think the category can be NPOV, and therefore should be deleted. --Nlu (talk) 16:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hello. Could you point me to a reliable source that describes such a controversy? I can't find any. —Viriditas | Talk 01:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. The category accurately describes the self-declaration of Emperor by historical figures. If a conflict about a certain figure arises, it should be discussed on the appropriate talk page, rather than deleting an entire category. The member category may or may not be appropriate; I added it to match Category:Self-declared messiahs. It may also be necessary to add a statement about restricting this category to certain individuals, such as usurpers. —Viriditas | Talk 17:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Hard to see how there could be any non-controversial entries. Sumahoy 23:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- I've removed the member category which indeed, was controversial. I don't see any problem, now. —Viriditas | Talk 01:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Ramsar sites of Pakistan
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The result of the debate was Already deleted. - TexasAndroid 17:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
redundant to Category:Ramsar sites in Pakistan Siddiqui
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Category:The West Wing
redundant to Category:The West Wing (TV series) ProveIt 15:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- REVERSE MERGE The West Wing (TV series) is clearer. 132.205.45.110 19:00, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Reverse merge - TexasAndroid 19:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment; For a reverse merge, The West Wing (TV series) should also be renamed. -- ProveIt 19:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Rome (television) Characters
redundant to Category:Rome characters ProveIt 15:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- REVERSE MERGE there are other things called Rome with characters. 132.205.45.110 18:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Reverse merge - TexasAndroid 19:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:People of the French Revolution executed by guillotine
blanked by User:David Kernow ProveIt 15:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- comment perhaps People executed by the commission during the Red Terror of the French Revolution would be better? 132.205.45.110 19:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Professional Wrestling venues
redundant to Category:Professional wrestling venues ProveIt 15:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Edible flowers
blanked by its creator ProveIt 15:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- CategoryRedirect to Category:Inflorescence vegetables, or keep as a subcategory of Category:Inflorescence vegetables. 132.205.45.110 19:03, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Rosenborg players
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The result of the debate was Already deleted. - TexasAndroid 17:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
redundant to Category:Rosenborg B.K. players ProveIt 15:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --larsinio (poke) 15:34, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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Category:Railway Stations in East Renfrewshire
redundant to Category:Railway stations in East Renfrewshire ProveIt 15:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Byzantine sites of Puglia
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The result of the debate was Already deleted. - TexasAndroid 17:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
blanked by creator ProveIt 15:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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Category:Personal and Social Transformation
inexplicable ProveIt 15:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Irish MPs to Category:Members of the pre-1801 Parliament of Ireland
Rename to clarify. For the same reasons that we just renamed the pre-Union English MPs and Scottish MPs categories. Mais oui! 13:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Bhoeble 13:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Rename per nom --larsinio (poke) 15:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Wars of Independence to Category:Wars of independence
Capitalization fix. Kirill Lokshin 01:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- I object; the small i is less commonly used, Wars of Independence is a stock phrase, and should be capitalized. JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:50, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Support Individual wars are proper nouns but classes of war are not. CalJW 04:26, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Moved from Speedy due to objection. - TexasAndroid 13:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy rename Bhoeble 13:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Rename as per CalJW. Valiantis 14:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Canadian Britons
This appears to have been created specifically for two people (its sole inhabitants at the moment), but the term "Canadian Briton" is a neologism (indeed, "Briton" is used only for the ancient inhabitants of the British Islaes and by newspapers who need to conserve space; it's not standard English for British people. It's not entirely clear what it means: Canadian-born British citizens? Canadians living in Britain? It at least needs renaming (though I don't know what to); my preference is for deletion. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- No, sorry, I think you're wrong; "Briton" is very commonly used in the media to refer to citizens of (and, implicitly, I suppose, persons with indefinite leave to remain in) the United Kingdom. On that basis, I think it should remain; on seeing it here, I understood it to mean Canadian-born British citizens... James F. (talk) 10:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. "Britons" to (also) refer to modern British people is common - for instance, "Asian-Britons" (-wikipedia) get 1080 yahoo search hits, whereas "Asian British people" (-wikipedia) gets 342 hits. ex-pat Canadians who merely reside in the U.K. are not British and to include them here would be wrong regardless of what name you use here. perhaps a sub-cat for "Britons (or British) of Canadian descent" should be used to distinguish between Canadian-born Britons" and second generation British of Canadian descent Mayumashu 14:05, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. It is not common practice in the UK to refer to "hyphenated Britons". This is a US practice and I see no reason to import it artificially via Misplaced Pages. The specific term "Canadian Britons" is a neologism. FWIW, "Britons" is a perfectly valid word to refer to people from Great Britain, but it is not the word used in cat names for people who are citizens of the UK. (The category is Category:British people). There are a variety of reasons for this, not least of which is that the UK does not only include Great Britain. The term "British" describes a legal nationality that applies to all citizens of the UK. Valiantis 14:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Child killers to Category:Convicted child murderers
Suggesting change to a more legally sounding and less emotive description. -- Longhair 05:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Is this meant to people convicted of murdering whilst children, or of perpertrating the murders on children? If the former, how about "convicted murderous children"; if the latter, how about "Murders convicted of killing children". James F. (talk) 10:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- It's the latter according the the text at the top. ×Meegs 12:05, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Murders convicted of killing children as James suggested. I'm not sure I like this subcategorization to begin with — I'm also open to deleting it — but the new name certainly an improvement. The convicted criterion is a mixed bag, though: it's a more clearly defined set of people, but also might exclude some of the category's current members. ×Meegs 12:05, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Category:Murderers of children per Bhoeble (below) is also an improvement and works for me too. ×Meegs 15:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose The emphasis on conviction is too modern. At many times and places there wasn't a formal conviction procedure, and even where there is one, some may have died before conviction. However it could be renamed category:Murderers of children to address the lack of clarity. Bhoeble 13:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose per Bhoeble --larsinio (poke) 15:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Rename category:Murderers of children per Bhoeble. Sumahoy 23:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Well-known foreign residents of China
delete. too POV and unnecessary - there s already Category:Foreigners in China who by definition are residents, not citizens (or they could not be described as 'foreigners') Mayumashu 04:08, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Upmerge into Category:Foreigners in China per nom. The extra words are POV and unnecessary, respectively.×Meegs 07:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge, yes. James F. (talk) 10:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into Category:Foreigners in China Bhoeble 13:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge per above --larsinio (poke) 15:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into Category:Foreigners in China per nom. Sumahoy 23:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Category:Soreal Entertainment
Category contains no articles and appears to be intended for advertising purposes. Delete. --Metropolitan90 03:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as it currently stands. James F. (talk) 10:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. Bhoeble 13:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)