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::Again, have I misinterpreted those guidelines? Misapplied? Adhered to them in a way that is not consistent with their intent, as indicated by their language? Do those policies and guidelines linked to above not say what I've indicated that they say? If so, then why not simply explain how? Or do you simply feel that rules do not apply to you when you visit someone else's property, including Misplaced Pages's ], which prohibits attacking other editors as you just did? If you're not capable of engaging in a civil, intelligent discussion about the improvement or the article or this site's rules, then kindly go elsewhere. Continue to violate the site's policies, you risk being blocked from editing. Thanks. ] (]) 16:40, 5 April 2012 (UTC) ::Again, have I misinterpreted those guidelines? Misapplied? Adhered to them in a way that is not consistent with their intent, as indicated by their language? Do those policies and guidelines linked to above not say what I've indicated that they say? If so, then why not simply explain how? Or do you simply feel that rules do not apply to you when you visit someone else's property, including Misplaced Pages's ], which prohibits attacking other editors as you just did? If you're not capable of engaging in a civil, intelligent discussion about the improvement or the article or this site's rules, then kindly go elsewhere. Continue to violate the site's policies, you risk being blocked from editing. Thanks. ] (]) 16:40, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
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Can he/she go away? Is that possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.5.210 (talk) 19:45, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm not planning to any time soon, so if you have any problems with the above, or with how I've interpreted or applied them, then please feel free to start a discussion on this talk page.
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Hi guys, concerning the above, I understand the point, I just feel the south park wikipedia pages have become pointless. Before, there was all kind of explanations that were quite useful and funny. Most of all to people like me that don't live in the US and then can't understand references to local happenings. Now the Misplaced Pages pages are just a resume of the episode that we saw, pretty useless.88.114.195.72 (talk) 05:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Exactly. I don't like in the US either and I don't understand some of the jokes. I used to come to Wiki to read the connections to current US issues and pop culture. Massive ****s like Nightscream ruin it, and I feel awful saying that out loud because, as with most people like him/her, he/she probably gets off on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.128.253 (talk) 12:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Explaining every joke is not Misplaced Pages's role. It's a general knowledge encyclopedia, not a fan encyclopedia. In any event, if you think that not including them "ruins" the project, then it is the above policies and guidelines that do so, and not me, since it was the community who formulated those guidelines long before I ever started editing here.
Again, have I misinterpreted those guidelines? Misapplied? Adhered to them in a way that is not consistent with their intent, as indicated by their language? Do those policies and guidelines linked to above not say what I've indicated that they say? If so, then why not simply explain how? Or do you simply feel that rules do not apply to you when you visit someone else's property, including Misplaced Pages's Civility Policy, which prohibits attacking other editors as you just did? If you're not capable of engaging in a civil, intelligent discussion about the improvement or the article or this site's rules, then kindly go elsewhere. Continue to violate the site's policies, you risk being blocked from editing. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 16:40, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

You do know that guidelines aren't set in stone, right? Otherwise they'd be official rules and not merely suggestions to follow. Isn't there also a be bold policy? The reason they are just guidelines is because every situation is different. You can't apply one set of rules to every situation. So, yes, while Misplaced Pages is a general knowledge encyclopedia, it's role is to educate and be a source of knowledge on any particular topic. If others think that in this particular situation the guidelines you quoted should be set aside then the consensus (another important policy of Misplaced Pages) should rule the day and more information should be included. And no, I won't sign my name with four tildes or sign up with a username to Misplaced Pages in order to ostensibly be taken more seriously. I don't see the need to follow those suggestions either.

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