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Expewikiwriter

See you're cleaning up after him as well. I'm mainly going for the flamethrower approach on the ones that lack notability; the more tricky "Yes, they're notable, but they're adverts" ones are second priority. 86.** IP (talk) 07:27, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

By the way, thanks for the barnstar! 86.** IP (talk) 07:29, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Erg. We have IPs and new accounts removing prods now, just in the hope that they'll wear us down, I think. I think we've got most of it; I'll check Special:Contributions/Expewikiwriter again once the AfDs clear through. 86.** IP (talk) 12:56, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I've left some comments at the (some?) afds. I'd be willing to bet a beer that the origin of the accounts is ClarkHuot - certainly one of the IPs complaining located to NYC didn't it? SmartSE (talk) 16:02, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Think there's about 10 AfDs running, not all of them mine. Cleanup proved a bit annoying.

Of the remaining articles, I'd be interested in your opinion of Joy_Theater, and probably a few others I'll list once the AfDs start closing. 86.** IP (talk) 16:25, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Jeez. I hadn't noticed how long they had been editing! Thanks for all the work you're doing. I think that we should certainly have an article on Joy Theater - there are quite a lot of hits in google books. The article is reasonably well written too - I just removed the worst piece of promotion. SmartSE (talk) 16:47, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Also, see this. How can we possibly not have an article about a man who wrote a book about that?! SmartSE (talk) 20:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

I see you're aware of the works of Expewikiwriter. Regarding your note to that SPA who left a comment on the AfD for Harold J. Morowitz, I think you've just communicated with one of that account's sock/meatpuppets. Though they did have a point, I'm not sure we should be giving them the time of day. I guess they are doing a pretty good job of seeming like legit editors, but they are gaming the system. I would take: "I have no idea who wrote this" with a grain of salt. Thanks for helping out though. Valfontis (talk) 21:38, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Who knows - seemed to me much more like a meatpuppet of somebody, which isn't a problem. I prefer to AGF in case they are who they say they are - even if there is a 1% chance that they might start editing other articles it is worth it. If they start to spam then we can deal with them then. Cheers for helping out as well! SmartSE (talk) 21:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, the Expewikiwriter mess is starting to clear out. Brooklyn Salsa Company is the one I'm really unsure about that hasn't been nominated; As fortr the AfDs themselves, well, search for Expewikiwriter in the AfD list if you want to check up. Mostly deletes, and those that aren't leaning that way are sensible exceptions. Bit under-participated, though: may get some relists. 86.** IP (talk) 14:50, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about BSC - initially I though that CORP might just be met, but the more I dug the worse it got. I've just sent it to AfD. SmartSE (talk) 14:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Guy Bavli

If you're okay with User:Eclipsed/Guy Bavli, could you do a histmerge with the mainspace version? Silverseren 05:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. I've done so, but also left a note on the talk page about a few other issues. SmartSE (talk) 09:54, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

JSTOR

Relevant: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_JSTOR_access. Looks like someone's on it already. Cheers! Ocaasi 15:01, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah cool. I already have access but thanks for letting me know. SmartSE (talk) 17:19, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Article names

Why are some articles under their common name while others under their botanical name, ie: California poppy vs Cornus florida?512bits (talk) 02:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

Happy Easter! Hope your day is great! Yasht101 11:52, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Present

Present for you on my user page. 512bits (talk) 20:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah thanks! I'm in good company - you still have more to find though! SmartSE (talk) 09:57, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Check out

...the history of the very adverty Mills College and the history of Nathan Ballard. I think we have more socks. 86.** IP (talk) 00:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Jeez. More puppets than the muppets. Looks like some of it is already dealt with, but I'll try and take a better look later on. SmartSE (talk) 09:58, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Mills College

What a godawful advert... Also, bonmus: Spot the SPAs who have made it such! 86.** IP (talk) 12:37, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Expewikiwriter

Well, a few more articles up for deletion. Expewikiwriter's history is rapidly getting shorter. 86.** IP (talk) 03:01, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Young Entrepreneur Council

What do you think of this one? It's one of the few articles that might scratch by from this mess, but I've learned not to trust the sourcing, and, indeed, there are issues with most of the news articles using similar language. which seems to indicate a reworked press release. 86.** IP (talk) 17:58, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I saw some pretty good looking sources earlier on factiva when looking for them about Gerber (that is probably an article that we should have, although I kind of agreed about G11) - e.g. the NYT. Might be best to just stubify it completely using a couple of good refs and watch it to make sure it isn't turned back into puff. As you've probably noticed I've left some comments at AfDs and started another. Gtg now though - starving! Probably won't have the time for any more despamming for a while. SmartSE (talk) 18:12, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree; Gerber is notable, just that, as it was written, it had no value to Misplaced Pages, and the sourcing couldn't be trusted anyway. Perhaps stubbifying was also an option, but anyone writing an article on him would need to do a lot more research first, and couldn't trust what was done, so the only thing leaving it up did was give the sockpppets something to editwar over. I'm off as well, so see you tomorrow! 86.** IP (talk) 18:23, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Shooting yourself in the foot; the Expewikiwriter way

On the NewOrleans.com deletion, the socks tried to make an Other Stuff Exists argument. Unfortunately, one of the Other Stuff that existed was VEGAS.com. Which I nominated for deletion, because, y'know,, it's all press release-sourced... however, one of the press releases used as sources names as the parent company of NewOrleans.com. It's flown under the radar and stood on Misplaced Pages since 2007. You can almost imagine that PR company's clients wringing their hands and shouting "Stop helping me!" 86.** IP (talk) 14:12, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

You beat me!

Thanks! (but you forgot to say neener neener) :) Valfontis (talk) 17:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Didn't see this though - good teamwork! SmartSE (talk) 21:24, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

Can you tell me where I went wrong with the old AfD page for "Gianna_Jessen" and what you had to do to fix this?Other than using the old AfD discussion page..I THINK i have that figured out.(Newmanoconnor (talk) 19:23, 16 April 2012 (UTC))

(talk page stalker) I'll let SmartSE handle your question, but did you know you don't have to put parentheses around your signature? When we say "sign your posts with 4 tildes (~~~~) what we mean is "type four tildes, and by the way this what 4 tildes look like if you don't know". It's good to type a space first too. I hope that helps. Valfontis (talk) 20:27, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

WP:AFDHOWTO explains how to nominate articles for deletion. Because there had already been one discussion you needed to create a new one, rather than continuing the old one. WP:TWINKLE makes the whole process very easy - you just select a tab on the page and can then just fill in a form with your justification. The rest is done automatically (including checking whether there had already been an afd before. Let me know if you have any more questions. SmartSE (talk) 21:28, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Valfontis I am a fairly literal person at times. Newmanoconnor (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2012 (UTC) Thanks again SmartSE, I was followingWP:AFDHOWTO , but I guess I missed that step about how to create a new one when there is already an old one. I'll check out WP:TWINKLE

Expewikiewriter update

Checking his contribs, here's what's left:

• Stimulator - probably fine?
• Young Entrepreneur Council - probably fine?
• Harold J. Morowitz Edited into a decent article.
• Nathan Ballard - at AfD, probably going to be deleted. Sock-fest.
• Gregory Scott Cummins - Probably fine now; double check?
• CBIZ - at AfD, probably going to be deleted.
• Home Care Assistance - at AfD, tending delete.
• David R. Stokes - at AfD, probably going to be deleted.
• Robert Uhlmann (media executive) - at AfD, probably going to be deleted.
• Patrick Zipfel - at AfD, good sources found, likely to be fixed.
• Joy Theater - probably fine.
• Eduard Davis - at AfD, probably going to be deleted.
• Jeff Gold - at AfD, probably going to be deleted.
• Remember the Triangle Fire Coalition Basically deleted.

86.** IP (talk) 04:15, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I've also opened an MfD on the supposedly-free-licensed images, because I'm not sure we can trust the image sources. 86.** IP (talk) 17:31, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Y'know, I think he started with around fifty to a hundred articles. It's sad how few of them were any good. 86.** IP (talk) 17:17, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for being uncommunicative. Thanks for the list - it's useful to have a to do list for things like this. Some of the articles that are being kept need some tidying up, but otherwise we're almost there. Take a look at this guy's contribs though Ed.Valdez (talk · contribs). Slightly suspicious don't ya think?! Probably got some socks somewhere too... It's never ending... SmartSE (talk) 20:14, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Not sure it'll be socks, necesarily, but anyone using is probably in PR, or doing copyvios. 86.** IP (talk) 20:16, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh really? And where did they use TM? Haven't seen that yet. SmartSE (talk) 20:20, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Actually, definite copyvio. is a barely-edited version of http://www.prweb.com/releases/MonaVie/Nutritional_Chemistry/prweb9100257.htm (Note: prweb.com is for press releases, so not an RS.)

Compare. bold is that person, italics the press release.

In early 2012 MonaVie launched MonaVie 2.0 under a product platform called MonaVie Nutritional Chemistry™ that claims to be a personalized, targeted product options to address an individual’s unique nutritional needs.

...a new product platform called MonaVie Nutritional Chemistry™ that provides personalized, targeted product options to address an individual’s unique nutritional needs.

According to MonaVie Chief Marketing Officer Jeff Cohen, MonaVie Nutritional Chemistry will make it easy for consumers to address their unique nutritional needs.

According to Cohen, MonaVie Nutritional Chemistry will make it easy for consumers to address their unique nutritional needs.