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User:PANONIAN has moved this article without an ], a discussion, or even a talkpage post. The infobox has also been stripped of insignia. To top it off, the move was almost done for the purpose of assisting ] in the perpetual dispute he created on the article about the Serbian counterpart of this territory. I've reverted these edits, and they should not be restored without consensus. <font face="Eras Bold ITC">-- ] <span style="color:#464646">(])</span></font> 11:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC) User:PANONIAN has moved this article without an ], a discussion, or even a talkpage post. The infobox has also been stripped of insignia. To top it off, the move was almost done for the purpose of assisting ] in the perpetual dispute he created on the article about the Serbian counterpart of this territory. I've reverted these edits, and they should not be restored without consensus. <font face="Eras Bold ITC">-- ] <span style="color:#464646">(])</span></font> 11:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
:Stop with false personal accusations, please. ] 07:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

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] → {{no redirect|1=Belgium and Northern France}} – I request renaming this page to title '''Belgium and Northern France''' since this article speaks about territorial unit not about German administrators. Name ''Belgium and Northern France'' is a common name for the territory used in most sources: , while name "Military Administration in Belgium and Northern France" was a name of German administration that governed territory. It is strange and unusual to name territory by the name of its administration. ] 07:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

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The Vichy Regime had legal authority over all France, despite Northern France being occupied. Kitkatcrazy (talk) 11:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

This article is totally un-sourced, and I question some of its content. It contains rhetorical questions and bias (yes, I know its bias for the "good guys" in WWII, but its still not up to standards of what we should expect here. A total rewrite is needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazerbryant (talkcontribs) 00:01, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

This article probably shouldn't exist

I have reverted the article back to the "two lines of text" because that's all it really needs. The title of the article, if it should exist at all (because I can't find the phrase on Google except in reference to the wikipedia article itself), is a narrow reference to the pseudo-legal government entity of non-Vichy France. Most historians, I think, would simply call this the "German occupation of France during World War II", of which there is already a good article. The rest of the text, which I have removed, was added as a large chunk all at once, and for all I know, was an essay written by someone and copied to wikipedia en-masse. Blazerbryant (talk) 02:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

After discovering that the term "Military Administration in Belgium and northern France" is already used in the info-box on German occupation of France during World War II, which is a much better article that more succinctly covers all the information in the "essay" which existed here before, I have created a simple redirect. If anyone wants to write an article, up to wikipedia standards, with full citations, on the "legal authority" of the government in occupied France, feel free. But what was here before was just a bad article. Blazerbryant (talk) 02:38, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Once again, this article needs to be re-written, not purged. Both you (as well as this article itself, it seems) are confused about what this name is actually referring to. This is supposed to cover the German military administration that operated out of Brussels, and which was known as the Militärverwaltung in Belgien und Nordfrankreich ("Military Administration in Belgium and Northern France"). It was referred to as such because in addition to Belgium its territory also included the two French departments of Nord and Pas-de-Calais (see the adjoined map). The German occupation regime in France that operated out of Paris was an entirely different entity.--Morgan Hauser (talk) 23:46, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

This misunderstanding just seems to crop up again and again. I'm putting up a notice at the top of the article page.--Morgan Hauser (talk) 03:56, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I am not a war-historian, but it was obvious that the article that existed for this page before was, as I described above, totally inappropriate for Misplaced Pages, and as you said, confused about what it was referring to. I'm fine with the current status. Blazerbryant (talk) 03:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

PANONIAN's move and removal of content

User:PANONIAN has moved this article without an WP:RM, a discussion, or even a talkpage post. The infobox has also been stripped of insignia. To top it off, the move was almost done for the purpose of assisting User:PANONIAN in the perpetual dispute he created on the article about the Serbian counterpart of this territory. I've reverted these edits, and they should not be restored without consensus. -- Director (talk) 11:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Stop with false personal accusations, please. PANONIAN 07:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

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Military Administration in Belgium and Northern FranceBelgium and Northern France – I request renaming this page to title Belgium and Northern France since this article speaks about territorial unit not about German administrators. Name Belgium and Northern France is a common name for the territory used in most sources: , while name "Military Administration in Belgium and Northern France" was a name of German administration that governed territory. It is strange and unusual to name territory by the name of its administration. PANONIAN 07:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

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