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– A checkuser has completed a check on relevant users in this case, and it is now awaiting administration and close.

31 May 2012

Suspected sockpuppets

• Silver starfish (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• One of the ruins (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• Captain Abu Raed (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• Nellie Seamonster (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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• Rita Mordio (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• Thrapostulator (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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These all seem to be sockpuppets of Echigo mole, a highly disruptive wikihounder. As with the previously blocked sockpuppet Caderousse (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), Echigo mole found out where I lived, knowing me real name (easy enough on the Pages Blanches and he is an obsessed stalker). He has already been shown to have written articles based on that. I now discovered other articles that include Rue Cardinale, Quartier Mazarin, all forks from Aix-en-Provence and where there is almost no useful information to add. In addition, connected with these articles, Echigo mole appears to have created a series of hoax articles, some of which have been connected to the articles on Aix. The names seem to be related to previous sockpuppet unsernames Zarboublian and The Wozbongulator. That explains the plethera of connected hoax articles jointly listed for AfD: John Bargel, Gustave de Zarbouble, La Maison du Guozbongleur. Guozbongleur. Note that Groomtech (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) made this edit to "John Bargel" and was listed with A.K.Nole, a former incarnation of Echigo mole, on The Wiki House. In addition as an ipsock he has commented in the AfD. That IP, in the usual range, 94.197.237.95 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), has repeated the vandalism edits of Caderousse to Beyond Vaudeville (see previous archived report). That article was also edited by Nellie Seamonster. I realize that some of these accounts are old, so it's probable impossible for a checkuser to make any pronouncements on some of them, but I think they are all linked. If some can be identified, the others will follow per  Looks like a duck to me. The first two are the most recent. Silver starfish already followed me to a long article I created here. Significantly the confirmed sock Caderousse also edited the hoax article "Gustave de Zarbouble," adding a link to a nonsensical and false claim. Mathsci (talk) 07:26, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Silver starfish was created in 2009 at a similar time to many of the other socks. Nellie Seamonster 2 months later also in 2009. Captain Abu Raed in November 2011 and One of the Ruins in March 2012. Mathsci (talk) 12:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I shall concentrate on Silver starfish as the main hoaxer/sock. In his second edit he uses the Echigo mole word "hoax" in an edit summary. This edit would tend to pin him down as from the UK. This edit stalked a little known article created by me. This article created less than a month ago is nonsense. Mathsci (talk) 12:47, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Since Echigo mole used an ipsock to post on WP:BLPN and then reinstated the edit using a sleeping sock Rita Mordio, I have added that account above. The contribution below seems to be from another sockpuppet, arguing in the style of William Hickey. I have added that name to the list. Mathsci (talk) 22:13, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Note: the main point is the use of the four listed sockpuppet accounts to add blatantly false and nonsensical hoax content to wikipedia. Echigo mole has come to this page with a new sock and a sleeping sock to troll about other identifying features of the sockpuppets. Common edits are only used to identify socks. Echigo mole is set on making mischief. They have used an ipsock from a known range and then a sleeping sock Rita Mordio to troll on BLPN, (identical edit to ipsock) then to troll here and on an arbitrator's talk page.  Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me Mathsci (talk) 06:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Furthermore the article Speculum Sophicum Rhodostauroticum, which the hoax articles cite and which in turn makes reference to them, was created by Groomtech who was part of The Wiki House, a shared account with Kenilworth Terrace and A.K.Nole, one of the previous accounts of the banned editor Echigo mole. (The three editors who jointly shared The Wiki House account signed their contributions in their edit summaries as AK, CJ and Jo and then added the first names Alex, Chris and Jo to the user page.) Mathsci (talk) 08:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

See also my comments on the unusual editing patterns of the users mentioned above, at Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Guozbongleur. In short, each of them makes large numbers of edits (in the tens) for a few days and then goes completely silent for months or years before starting again. Dricherby (talk) 08:11, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

• I think Nellie Seamonster (talk · contribs) may be a false positive, or at least, a different hoaxer. Her contributions appear to include a hoax entry at List of fictional elements, materials, isotopes and atomic particles (see Talk:List_of_fictional_elements,_materials,_isotopes_and_atomic_particles#Strapontium.3F) However this latter now makes me think that the huge and completely unsupported list of eccentric characters in Beyond Vaudeville is suspect: I would suggest adding Beeveefan (talk · contribs) to the list to be checked. The entries in Wack Pack probably need review too. However, Nellie's vesrion of John Bargel seems to be purely a UK-based joke, with no relation to Aix or to Mathsci. It may have been discovered later by another hoaxer who decided to build on it with the Gustave de Zarbouble stuff. The focus on Hitchin rather reminds me of Baldock Beer Disaster or Letchworth Corset Riot. Thrapostulator (talk) 21:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC) likely sockpuppet of Echigo mole - first edit so far

• Tagging users at the start of an SPI is a violation WP:HUSH -- "should not be used to display supposed problems with the user unless the account has been blocked as a result of those issues" -- and constitutes harassment. Reverting users on the pretext that they might be banned when this has not been established is disruption as well as WP:NPA violation. But the important question is, why is Mathsci so anxious to keep these BLP violations at Beyond Vaudeville in the encyclopedia and to avoid them coming under objective scrutiny? Does he have any ulterior motive here? Is the previous, improperly stricken, comment relevant? Rita Mordio (talk) 06:20, 1 June 2012 (UTC) more disruptive trolling by sockpuppet of banned editor Echigo mole, not even autoconfirmed - see WP:DENY

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

Thrapostulator is  Confirmed, blocked, and tagged. Rita Mordio is a  Possible connection. I did not check the other (non-stale) accounts, as I do not see enough evidence to connect them to Echigo mole. The edits provided seem circumstantial, at best. I will say, however, that those accounts did not come up in my check of Rita Mordio or Thrapostulator. TNXMan 13:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

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